EVO 2011 - SSF4 AE - Daigo (Yun) vs Latif (C.Viper)

[pandaboyx]

the announcer needs to stfu with his "OOO, OOOOO"

[Atma01]

I love Latiff <3

[116140]

fuudo won

[txbestfire]

Did Latiff win the whole Evo2K11?

[WarPRODiiGY]

If Daigo Had Ryu He would Have Won

[KingsRansomFilms]

This is real talk from an oldish man gamer, and for anyone who's first system was an N64 or Sony playstation you want understand this. But Daigo is thorough bread player. There will never be another like him for some time, if ever. Latiff earned that shit, but he will never have the pedigree that Daigo has. Daigo comes from the 80's man. 80's gamers are the (OG), and the rest from the 90's are bubble gum players. In the 80's you played for high scores and respect, 90's and above (money).

[KingsRansomFilms]

@KingsRansomFilms Apparently he mastered Fighting Street when he was 8 or 9. The only thing I mastered at 8 or 9 was how to beg for money for ice cream or freezies, and masturbation. Wait did I just say that? Scratch the last thing...lol

[KingsRansomFilms]

@KingsRansomFilms And for all of those who don't know Fighting Street was (Street Fighter) 1, and the controls were notoriously horrible. He then mastered every fighting capcom game that was released there after. Personally I like J Wong more than Daigo, so nobody can call me a Daigo dickrider, but even then Daigo is the alpha male dog, and Jwong is a poodle.

[Zemogcram]

can someone tell me what a frame trap is.. or a frame in general

[judegines]

@Zemogcram I don't know what a frame trap is but a frame is... think of it as a picture, each move you do is a picture. if you do a jab or a low punch, the moment you press it, a frame will activate which is called the starting frame then it will continue on to the hit frame where the hitbox or the body of the opponent collide and do damage, then after that the ending frame, where you return to your normal stance. I know its a little bit tricky, that's why Street Fighter is really hard to master

[secdeal]

@Zemogcram

a frame is the general time unit used in fighting games. It's 1/60th second. Most fighting games run showing 60 updates on the screen (frames) every second, hence the name.

Frame traps are certain type of advanced mind games.

Each frame trap is very character and situation specific.

Frame traps can make the opponent believe he can react to a situation in time, and if he tries to do that instead of being passive, he gets punished.

[NeedaBettrName]

Is Yun a good/easy character to use? Or is it just Daigo playing?

[YukoAsho]

@NeedaBettrName Yes to both. Daigo is one of the legends of the fighting game scene, but Yun is also grossly imbalanced in AE. He's getting SUPER nerfed in 2012.

[AuthenticBlaze]

Latif needs to calm down... I hate how when he loses he gets all angry, bites his jaws together and gets all finicky. We all lose, no need to act like a bitch, just think about how u lost and move on. Lol take it from daigo that dude is always calm no matter win or lose

[JBFlank]

daigo would have won if he would have used ryu

[KojinSagara]

Watching this video, Daigo took waaay too many chances with DP. that IMO was all Latif needed to see. i was suprised not because daigo lost, but how he lost. 

[XXEvilRikuXX]

quick question. whats fadc stand for and how do you do it. and idk if its the same thing, but how do you cancel a shoryuken to continue a juggle? someone please reply. PLEASE.

[Virtualwallvirus]

@XXEvilRikuXX

FADC= Focus Attack Dash Cancel.

Like if I shoryuken I will focus and then dash either foreward or backwards to cancel the rest of the focus meaning I only used focus attack to get me out of following through with the entire shoryuken after i hit him and then I canceled the focus attack by dashing to maybe follow up with another attack. Does that help?

[wolluk77]

Totally deserved seems like Latif worked very hard for this so congrats to him great match

[maskedburritow]

I was very surprised to see how much American players leveled up. Seeing Mago and Daigo taken out by Ameticans was shocking.

[sinekonata]

@Murdoku haha what a retarded comment

[luisalexander210]

mierda! perdio daigo...aunq con Ryu no habria tenido esa suerte XD

[Eujinc93]

-_-

[jnthnclvn]

Viper specialists are just a scary as yun

[Demoniq]

The thing is, Evo is getting bigger each year. There are tons of great players out there that didnt have the time or means to make it to these tournaments the way Daigo or JWong or whoever can, but who may have been able to this year. Clearly, much to the dismay of his fans, Daigo isnt the best. Latif isnt either obviously, but the bottom line is, as time goes on, the top tier guys are going to get bumped aside by hungry newcomers. Thats just life, and I dont think its a bad thing.

[YukoAsho]

@Demoniq Heh, same thing happened to the World Series of Poker. As the event got more popular and more people started coming, the prospects for the established players making the main event final table, let alone winning, multiple times became more and more remote until it became an impossibility. I imagine the same will happen at EVO as the event gets ever larger.

[Akabane69]

@YukoAsho Interesting, so literally nowadays there has been not a single person who has won consecutively? Can you elaborate (if there's more to elaborate of course)? I'm actually curious, no sarcasm or anything.

[YukoAsho]

@Akabane69 The last guy to win the WSOP main event two years in a row was Johnny Chan in 1987 and 1988. Since then, the event has EXPLODED, in no small part due to ESPN's coverage, and the number of people playing just gets larger and larger. How can anyone be that dominant when you have a field of 10k+? Eventually luck has to play a role.

[Akabane69]

@YukoAsho Hmm interesting, I can kind of see the picture. Thanks for the quick reply! :D

[lordjimbo2]

@YukoAsho Or it could just be that poker isn't as skill-based as other tournaments. In fact, if you look at the WSOP, there's hardly any similarity in the top 20 from year to year, let alone the champion. Daigo, JWong and Tokido at least made it reasonably far this year; while I think that a lot of Japanese players are struggling with the Shoto nerfs, they'll still be around in the future since there isn't a lucky equalizer like cards being dealt.

[YukoAsho]

@lordjimbo2 Well, I'm not sure how many people were in the SSFIVAE event (which I think we could all agree was the "main event" at EVO 2011), but I doubt it was anywhere near the 6,865 that showed up for WSOP 2011. Let's see what happens when EVO draws that many people yearly.

[zrikin]

@Demoniq yeah the hungry newcomers are powerful players but saying Daigo isn't the best, im not a fanboy but Daigo is certainly the best sf player to play the game, other than kuroda but he doesn't play much anymore.

Even Fuudo, the winner of Evo said Daigo is the best there ever was, and surpassing her him is impossible.

Just because he losses twice doesn't mean he isnt he best. wow now poongko is 1-46 against Daigo

and Latif is probaly 4-1000 because they had played against each other a lot.

[9801563i]

Latif: In your FACE. Damn it!

Daigo: -_-"

[elainechong7]

There are two cheap win of Latif

[Murdoku]

FOR AMERICA!

[saijin91903]

congrats!!

[drmario110]

latif top 5 in the world

[AnimeNex]

T_T god dammit......................

[jebril]

Daigo losing at Evo? That is insane.

[ShotoShogun187]

@jebril Well you have to consider who took him out. None of the American players who have been gunning for him year after year even came close. Each year, he's came to Evo (USA) & just danced all over the American players but this year there were at least 5 players in the top 8 from Asia & Latif (although an American citizen) is not a familiar face at Evo so I'm not surprised. I'm not riding Daigo just pointing out the fact that US players need to step their game up regardless.

[lYakuzal]

@ShotoShogun187

Agreed. American players have been focusing too much on Daigo, that they've been studying on how to beat Yun instead of upgrading their own game. Latif himself has showed the results of his progress, which is very motivating and inspirational, showing the importance of competition and his commitment to winning Evo.

[Ryodisis]

@jebril why do ppl thumbs up ppl who spoil the video? D:

[Just2Gamerz]

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