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[Marcus538]

The Big Bang Theory or "A" big bang theory is on the first page of OVID's metamorphosis, a compilation of Greek Legends, which is a must read. Ovid decribes the big bang in very similar terms to what scientist do today this was approx 50AD .

I wish people would realise Myths legends , religion , might have a truth in them that is not and never intended to be Scientific fact . BUt the OVID Big Bang is there and its accurate the things is these ancients knew many things we do not.

[TheRealVerbz2]

@Marcus538 There was no Big Bang or any violent explosion that initiated the Creation of matter.

The Big Bang Theory is a complete failure just like "black holes", the speed of light, pulling forces of gravity, nucleus to atoms and the rest of that b.s. and nonsense.

I have a copy of the Ovid and many other ancient texts as well as material from the 1800's that Really does a lot more justice than the previous eras.

Remember that the Church had a super stronghold on Any scientific information.

[TheLovesoul1]

@TheRealVerbz2 are you robert thank you and on the svpvril.com website it talks about the infinite 9ths being god or the void would that be a pure white space of infinite light and is the purpose of the universe to attain a state of fullness.

[TheRealVerbz2]

@TheLovesoul1 My name is Jason Verbelli but Robert Otey is my good friend. I've also met Dale Pond who runs the Svpvril.com site. Awesome folks.

Add me on Facebook,com/Verbelli

I have lots to share. Photo albums, notes, videos, and other brilliant minds.

:o)

[TheLovesoul1]

@TheRealVerbz2 thank you maybe this might help checkout sevenstarhand and his book he exposes all abrahmaic religions for what they really are fakes frauds and lies the book is called " fininshing the mysteries of gods and symbols".

[irajkhodadoost]

"No man shall attain the shores of the ocean of true understanding except he be detached from all that is in heaven or on earth. Sanctify your souls O ye people of the earth that haply ye may attain the station that God hath destined for you." The Book of Certitude, p1, circa 1861.

Religion should be in harmony with religion; otherwise, it is nothing but a series of unproven dogmas, superstitions, and prejudices based on faith alone which ultimately divides rather than unifies. BRAVO FOR THIS!

[Blurns]

I wish we could discuss science without god. It can never escape association with Judeo-Christian dogmatic nonsense.

[TheRealVerbz2]

@Blurns Removing The Creator from it's creation is the greatest blasphemy of science.

Science without God is Psyence. A sense and corporate based indoctrination campaign.

True science is the study of Nature and one's connection to it in a "Spiritual" sense. The spirit being your thought process and how effectively you use your mind. Not some esoteric angel.

Walter Russell's concept of god is Mind. Not some dude on a throne with a big stick waiting for you to screw up.

[TheRealVerbz2]

@TheRealVerbz2 The Judeo-Christian dogmatic nonsense is exactly what we are trying to expose and get rid of while getting back to the ancient root and understanding of Mind, Vortexes and all we can measure.

Religion is the commercialization of Spirituality and the bastardization of Science.

The vengeful god of the Vatican's bible was a take off from Zeus and the Garden of Hesperides.

Russellian Science is the understanding of Nature's Laws, not man made fallacies and religions.

[Blurns]

@TheRealVerbz2 I think that if you really want to get that point across, you should stop using the word "god". While Walter Russell's concept of god is Mind, the word "god" is stemmed from & very strongly associated with the concept of personified deity. While it's good that you're going after the root of the problem, it doesn't quite look that way on the surface

[TheRealVerbz2]

@Blurns One of my main points is to emphasize that we all need new terminology to describe "god", light, gravity, human, life, and a bunch of other scientific terms.

The semantics and technicalities are killing conversations. Agreed, there's a negative connotation with many words.

Context is everything. Most people are programmed to turn their brain off when they encounter key words.

People willing to get to the root will see the context and can re-word their interpretation accordingly.

[Blurns]

@TheRealVerbz2 Unlike many words, god hasn't mutated in the slightest even over 400 years & the brute-force certainly won't change that. That approach works about as well in sociolinguistics as it does in particle physics. If you are talking about the universe, just say "the universe" it removes the personification & is less misleading.