Climate Change --- Global Dimming part 3

[2wheels88]

My problem with this is they are blaming pollution particles but don't look at all at the massive chemtrails they're spraying all over the planet.I lie in Australia and the air is ery clean until they start spraying and there goes a nice sunny day down the drain and a couple of days of rain usually follows the spraying,so to me they just want to blame the public again for over consumption just another excuse to bring in their carbon tax scam and their agenda 21 depopulation plans!!!

[vespacurry]

They can't make these assumptions. Dust from the land mass has always produced haze. The doco has not mentioned that the sun its self is cooling, and the sun has a history of cooling. SunSpots have been studied since Roman times. Solar cooling is well documented. Humans do effect the climate just as does the ocean on a greater scale.

More half science.

[HerrQuixota]

8:50

BLAME IT ON AMERICA AND EUROPE! YEAH!

Fuck this video, it's just another attempt at manipulating the world.

I do like cleaner air. But Global Dimming is just too similar to Global Warming for me to actually trust.

It's just another umbrella that Environmentalists and NWO bastards can use against the rest of the world.

[ash4432]

this can explain why san francisco is always cool in july.

[TRUMPHENT]

Nope! San Francisco gets its climate from the cold water current just off shore. Air moving onshore from the Pacific Ocean is going to contain very little particulate.

[INFOWARRIORchannel]

indirect semi-direct aerosol campaign

youtube that you idiots!

[INFOWARRIORchannel]

indirect semi-direct aerosol campaign

[bringmewhy]

global dimming is pretty big. I wonder if it can lead to the lack of vitamin d in humans. god that would suck.

[HerrQuixota]

It only means we will be rubbing on more lotion. ',- P

[Phoenixkidd]

Wow shocking the same thing is happening in Phoenix, in Summer, there is so much heat and particles from human pollution the monsoon is very weakened in our valley.

[commando602]

right about that... I haven't seen a good monsoon since the '80's..

But, It has been raining a lot the start of this year....

[pvelvet]

you guys are all fools and aren't even referring to what the video is explaining.

[Naskeleng]

I think that's because they clearly haven't watched it.

This is a very important documentary that deserves decent debate.

[citizensrightsmatter]

None of us were around 5000 or 1 million yrs ago, so it does not matter who is right or wrong!! live life and enjoy it!

[citizensrightsmatter]

Plants thrive on C02.....apparently the more the better!

[DavidMB76]

I am more science than you are.

[Lookup2Wakeup]

Its all planned by the NWO. The big cull is coming. Listen to politicians Ashdown & Meecher. They say there will be millions killed this century due to various reasons ... to reduce the earths population.

[CANHEADS]

i agree

[tommy2621]

i think all the cool people as well as scientists and the most highly educated people cruise over to Australia, and we nuke America, Asia, Europe and start again with New Zealand to create a clean world.

[ceresone]

This theory, like the global warming theory is ridiculous. I call bull$hi*

[tommy2621]

you are obviously either uneducated, dumb, or were dropped on your head as a baby.. for you to say something like that, you are going against almost every scientist out there.. if we dont fix this REAL issue, our children are going to grow up in a world unlike anything you could imagine.. to think that in 100 years temperatures could be up 10 celcius is insane.. you go and do a science degree and learn a little bit about how Gaia functions and i bet you wouldnt agree with your comment.

[ceresone]

There are over 30,000 scientists who disagree with you. I disagree with you because it's mid June and I'm wearing a winter jacket. It snowed in Montana yesterday. We are entering Global Cooling. Watch Global Warming Swindle. Al Gore is a liar. Google search, climate change hits Jupiter and Mars Polar ice Caps Melting. The SUN caused temperatures to rise and fall, Co2 has NOTHING to do with it. Taxing you for breathing will not fix anything.

[tommy2621]

so your saying the fact that we are creating a massive blanket around the earth of co2, isnt contrbuting at all to the unprecidented increase in temperature? ok so 30000 scientists think what you think, i reckon maybe 3000000 scientists think what i think.. i am one of them

[TheParadigmShift]

Yes, I'm saying that. Do you think our Co2 is causing Jupiter, Mars, Pluto etc to heat up? Also why does Co2 lag on average 800 years after the temperature heats up? Remember taht 650,000 year grapg that Gore showed in his propaganda film? If you zoom into it close they don't match at all. Heat comes first then Co2. Also 99% of the world thought it was flat so the minority has been right before.

[tommy2621]

how does our co2 increase have any effect on any other planet other than our own?

[ceresone]

Exactly, that's why the "Co2 - Global Warming" link is flawed. Those other planets don't have SUV's emmiting C02 on them but yet they are warming at the same rate as Earth. I recommend watching the "Global Warming Swindle" on Google video. I used to believe Al Gore about Global Warming but after seeing the other side of the argument, it all makes sense why they push it.

[Lookup2Wakeup]

I agree. Wake up to the bullsh*t that is around.

[BeondaPale]

What evidence do you have that Jupiter, Mars and Pluto ARE heating up?

Pluto (for example) orbits the Sun once every 248.02 years -- the planet was DISCOVERED in 1930, making it ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to draw ANY conclusions.

And there is EXTREMELY little evidence of a global climate change on Mars and Jupiter.

To compare the MOUNTAINS of data we've collected here on earth to the GRAIN OF SAND of evidence we've collected about other planets is ridiculous to the point of lunacy

[ceresone]

Google: "mars ice caps melting NASA"

the data is on NASA's website.

Google: "Jupiter climate change"

Youtube doesn't let you post URLs

[BeondaPale]

THIS is what you call EVIDENCE of GLOBAL warming on Mars?? PHOTOGRAGHS of a single icy region in the southern hemisphere?

And again, to infer from this drop in a bucket a common mechanism for global warming on Earth and Mars is RIDICULOUS! not only is it incorrect reasoning but it is also based on faulty understanding of the data.

Science is NOT ill-informed conclusions based on misused and misinterpreted data to fit preconceived conclusions!

[ceresone]

Mars' ice caps were melting at the same rate as Earths, Jupiter was experiencing climate change and so was it's moons. Earth is now in it's 10th year of global cooling. Wouldn't it be much hotter today than ten years ago if C02 was to blame? it was much hotter on Earth 900 years ago and again 5000 years ago. Co2 has no effect on temperature whatsoever. You still have not addressed why there is an 800 year lag between the temperature and co2 in the 650,000 year graph...

[BeondaPale]

Mars' ice caps were melting at the same rate as Earths

No man OR machine has ever BEEN on mars ice caps to take direct measurements -- its a PHOTOGRAPH and your wishful thinking -- not science

Jupiter was experiencing climate change and so was it's moons.

ALL planets experience climate change. But to extrapolate comparative conclusions from photographs as compared to massive amounts of REAL data as you are attempting to do is absurd.

You're just as bad as a "creation scientist"

[ceresone]

You still haven't addressed the 800 year gap. There is NO evidence for co2 causing "climate change" I don't believe in "creationism", I think religion is a joke. Google: "oldest tree rewrites climate change history" it was much hotter on Earth 9000 years ago. Why don't you address that? Where's your science? Most teachers are only repeaters, do you know who writes the text books? You need to find out who the Carnegie Foundation is and what their goals are.

[BeondaPale]

"I don't believe in "creationism", I think religion is a joke."

I didn't say you did -- just that you argue in the same way as those that do - placing you conclusion BEFORE your data

"You still haven't addressed the 800 year gap"

I don't have to. It's not my job. READ.

EVERY major scientific institution agrees that man is causing his climate to change. You can't name ONE that doesn't. It's silly to waste time arguing with someone who calls absurdities evidence as you have done.

[ceresone]

"EVERY major scientific institution agrees that man is causing his climate to change. You can't name ONE that doesn't" 99% OF THE PLANET THOUGHT IT WAS FLAT. THE MAJORITY WAS DEAD WAS WRONG!

AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY (society of 50,000 physicists) HAS REVERSED ITS POSITION ON MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE. In addition, there is a petition with over 32,000 signatures from scientists who do not accept man-made climate change. NONE of your "scientists" ever address the 800 year discrepancy.

[BeondaPale]

"99% OF THE PLANET THOUGHT IT WAS FLAT. THE MAJORITY WAS DEAD WAS WRONG!"

MAJOR mistake -- 99% of the planet did not base their conclusion that the planet was flat ON SCIENCE.

"AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY (society of 50,000 physicists) HAS REVERSED ITS POSITION ON MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE."

BULL - Statement taken DIRECTLY from the American Physical Society page:

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. ...We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now."

[BeondaPale]

Google "american physical society" "climate change"

[ceresone]

Also, do you think it is very "scientific" to come up with a conclusion WITHOUT a proper debate?

Why won't the "scientists" or political movie star Al Gore ever DEBATE their case if they're so sure? All I ask is for a fair debate...not having Global War..I mean "Climate Change" fed to us every day like a religion.

[BeondaPale]

See? All "Creation scientists" ask for is "debate" as well

Debate in SCIENCE is the presentation of well founded contravening EVIDENCE

[ceresone]

No you are wrong. Creationists don't debate, they believe the Bible as the authoritive word and nothing will change their mind. Again your so called "peer-reviewed science" fails to address

- why was it much warmer 900 years ago, 5000 years ago and 9000 years ago.

- why is there an 800 year gap between temperature and co2 (temperature rising first then co2 amounts going up 800 years later)

repeating something is NOT science

[BeondaPale]

I didn't say that creationists debate. I said all they ASK FOR is debate. Like you, they don't have the necessary evidence to question the prevailing conclusions.

"so called "peer-reviewed science""

peer-reviewed science IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF SCIENCE it is NOT "so called" it IS science.

By calling REAL and VERIFIABLE science "so called", you have just proved that nothing will change YOUR mind.

Where are you getting that it was much warmer 900 years ago, 5000 years ago and 9000 years ago?

[ceresone]

Google: "medieval warming period"

Google: "oldest tree re-writes climate change history"

The oldest tree ever found was in Sweden and it is 9000 years old. It proves that it was warmer in Sweden 9000 years ago than it is now.

When scientist who are trained by the Carnegie Foundation education system peer-review other Carnegie scientists, that peer-review process means NOTHING. There are plenty of peer-reviewed papers proving the other side of the climate change "debate" too.

[ceresone]

"they don't have the necessary evidence to question the prevailing conclusions."

I've given you two points that you have repeatedly failed to address and you pretend that it doesn't exist.

How "scientific" of you.

[n1krobe]

Science is based on evidence not on decisions made by debates and opinions, unlike religion and politics. The world did have warmer periods in the past, but the change was not nearly as rapid as we are seeing now, nor were 6 billion plus people living on it then to suffer. CO2 does cause the world to warm, this point has been tirelessly studied, please review your literature on the topic before polluting us with your Regan-era talking points.

[scenebones8]

And opinion is going to produce accurate results? No. It's not going to be solved that way. Science is our way of examining the world. It is much more accurate than debating and religion. I am still a believer in God, I just think that God gave us brains for a reason. And he believes in science.

[ceresone]

The higher ups at the American Physical Society, apparently do not agree with the editor that made the initial post. The original article states that MOST MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY DISAGREE WITH MAN MADE WARMING... kinda like Bush has a 9% approval rating but what he says goes.

Man-made climate change is NOT based on science either. It's based on Al Gore's fraudulent slide show where he skews information and shows summer pictures compared to winter pictures with CG shots ripped from movies.

[BeondaPale]

"The higher ups at the American Physical Society, apparently do not agree with the editor that made the initial post."

WHICH initial post? -- Let me guess, you got this off an internet bulletin board that can be accessed by the general public, right?

"Man-made climate change is NOT based on science either. It's based on Al Gore's fraudulent slide show"

Nope, sorry again. Man-made climate change is based on MANY MANY MANY peer reviewed studies of the climate changing over time.

[kompirmanga]

I can't believe that there are still people in denial about this. This is the real world, Instead of trying to spread this information to everyone you're playing in some imaginary world where everything is fine

[popdaniel023]

Well unfortunately most people have been programed this way, by the media, by the school, by our government... People that do not believe should wonder if what is presented here is false then way the consequences are happening, way are they real...

[JonThm]

Humanm climate change is NOT true! Going to a hto place, is well warm!

[Largesoftprunes]

your an ignorant prick, you DEFYING THOUSANDS of TOP scientists!! GO get educated...

[a1mint]

Wouldn't this reflection effect cause a drop in temperature? But at clear areas more heat is captured through the green house gases. Cooler where there are clouds, warmer in clear areas.

Hmmm, what's the end result - and side effects?

[Arianive]

ironically global dimming makes going to solar power less attractive, the longer we wait.

As for the temperature, clouds also keep heat in, ever notice how cloudy nights are warmer/damper? Overall effect is more important though, since cloud cover changes every day, seems like the dimming + insulation have cancelled each other almost rather exactly

[tommy2621]

lol my god.. global dimming is going to fall much more quickly than global warming. your right when you say global dimming has been slowing down the onset of global warming. but think about it, by far the biggest push on the planet is to reduce pollution (dimming) rather than co2 (warming).. you put that into consideration and our world is headed in a very bad direction.. solar power would still be a great alternative for clean power.. because the mirror from polution would be reduced.

[1x93cm]

The fact is: The smog is acting like a bunch of volcanoes erupted simultaneously throwing ash into the air...blocking out the sun.. or if an asteroid smacked into the earth and through up dust to block out the sky- plants can't photosynthesis..

we're killing ourselves

[ZugBub]

what else is new? -.-