Hahaha Stef, a sociopath quoting a sociopath, I'm a sociopath too now don't get me wrong, we're all without conscience.
Debt only exists so long as we recognize it to exist and those we are indebted to hold power over us. Most of the debt is artificial to begin with, based on usury and inflation, the debt based monetary economy is unsustainable. A big part of the problem is capitalism.
Capitalism automatically siphons money up to business owners, & creates a whole class of financial predators.
Re: 7:18 - 7:35 "As religion declined, faith in the state went up, because lord knows we can't live without a master of some kind,"
In theory,
it was agriculture (farming) that created this inequality; it also created currency. One of the best thing I learned about in the last few years (besides Freedomainradio; thank you Stef) was that farming is inefficient versus gather/grazing.
I made a playlist including this video to share these ideas (work in progress) called "Philosophy of society"
I'm sorry, but if debt is the foundation of statism, then how are these debts the result of democracy? Wouldn't ANY state go into debt, regardless of how it was organized?
If Stefan dealt with the backlog of resentments he has from his formative years, he'd be a lot less prone to these outbursts of bile fuelled rhetoric. His latest rants rest on the fallacy of guilt by association and faulty generalization. Take a sample group (nasty authority figures), attribute a political ideology to the sample group (socialist+/-) and extrapolate. Voila, evil baby boomers have stolen your future. A plank in the eye.
For some reason ole Stef always blames government, never the oppressive capitalist forces who put us into debt and profit from it! Government doesn't carry the burden of a profit motive. You right Stef, it's simple, but you either don't get it or you're being deliberately deceptive.
Sorry Steph you just don't know what you are talking about when it comes to unions. I do love your sentiments and ideas. I agree with most of what you so eloquently say however I don't believe you know very much about organized labour. Regardless it is always a pleasure listening to you talk. Thank you for all that you do.
@OscarLimaMike dude i got a job at ralphs once and had to join the union. i was startin at minimum wage and they were gonna charge me 50 bucks a month, and i asked them what i get in return? "15 hours a week guaranteed" wow ill just get another job if i cant get 15 hours you douchers.. i went to whole foods with no union and made 11 and hour plus getting a cut if our profits went over! what dont i know about organized labor?i dont think stefans against unions unless theyre government enforced.
@OscarLimaMike I agree, Stefan gravitates naturally toward blaming the puny efforts by the powerless toward carving out some semblance of financial security for themselves, in spite of the fact that Labor has been gutted at every turn in the past 30-40 yrs (Here in the US anyway). The reason he always specifies "Public Sector" unions is because those are the only unions of any consequence left, and THAT Stef is what immoral looks like.
I said the same thing back in the eighty's when I was in my twenties about the benefits in lieu of pay scam. I was labeled as insane and I have never been able to get employment because I am labeled as insane. That's how you shut up a college educated woman is you call her insane so that no one will listen to her or take her seriously. Of course my lack of employment and people calling me insane drove me insane. I was called lazy and unwilling to work. Forget that part about the college.
Anarchy means "without rules"..it's a logical position to take, as.. RULES don't exist in reality(syn-objects in relations).
Stef spins a compelling yarn, like Ayn Rand. they promote a "worldview." Is this what's really going on in society- or in our little portion of reality? Is what Stef lays down..the truth of what is really happening..? "Truth" - a subjective evaluation which comes from following rules to a conclusion. Stef raises rules to the status of an object..Stef aint an anarchist..
@DecassyJake: 1: "Without rulers," not "without rules". 2: Truth isn't subjective. 3: Stef supports a stateless society, ergo he is an anarchist. Zero out of three ain't bad.
@andyissemicool1.Concepts such as rules, do not exist as objects in reality.2,truth require an OBSERVER to validate TRUTH, and therefore is subjective..3 Whether or not Stef supports a Stateless society or not he still raises rules above reality..he who does that is not a rigorously, PHILOSOPHICAL anarchist. He makes himself out as an AUTHORITY on truth- due to his slipshod reasoning..a=a is saying precisely NOTHING about reality.
@DecassyJake: The concept of "two" and "three" don't exist in reality. Yet it is objectively true that two plus three equals five every single time, no matter what tangible or intangible objects are represented by those numbers. I don't get your point. What would make a "real" anarchist to you? I'd love to see what your definition is since you seem to be using your own meanings for words. I can understand how truth would seem subjective when you do that.
@andyissemicool Truth=opinion, take Stef's opinion for THE TRUTH if you want, axioms don't prove a THING, they are but but circular statements. Truth is ALWAYS true when you follow the rules. Rules are invented by humans..Stef's non defs for truth and absolute and trying to PRESCRIBE UNIVERSAL ABSOLUTIST MORALITY, make him a RULER, by default..he's just following rules..he LOVES rules, they make him income..anarchist my ass!
Awesome. Knocking the truth out o' the park with a finely crafted Louisiana walking cane.
All the crowd can do is look up through the clouds of their cataract eyes, mouths gaping, skulls empty,yet filled only with the sound of their loosening dentures.
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You seem to think democracy is bad. If I'm not mistaken, democracy means "the people rule". Isn't that anarchy? True democracy must be anarchist, the governments "democracy", where the people decide... who rules them, is very false. You can't rule yourself if someone else rules you.
A bit strange comment maybe but I think you understand what I mean.
The best yet. The things that you talk about have been floating around in my head for a little while, and you did a good job of putting it into words. Thanks for this. I'm going to watch it again because it's inspirational. I don't get on with my dad; I love him, but he is a brick wall. He is extremely well read, loves Ayn Rand like teenagers love Lady Gaga, but he is SO judgmental! He needs to watch this.
For instance, one that POPS OUT is the UNFUNDED Wars.
Another Big expenditure that POPS OUT is the decade of BIG TAX CUTS for the wealthiest Americans over the last 10 years.
Another is: The fact that America was in RECESSION just after 911 attack - and the way the US tried to get out of recession was to tell everyone to buy a house, get mortages(derivitives) & BUST!
Before you fall for the vanity and pride of certain individuals and their "answers" - remember how much children hope and yearn for love in their lives.
"religion is for people who are afraid to go to hell - spirituality is for those who have already been there."
Don't fall for the empty and bitter rhetoric of people who believe only in themselves. Vanity.
religion is a mess - because people are.
Don't let the privileged nihilists draw you away from God's love.
The answer is too horrible (in the US) because of the WARS. That is the bleeding in every way. End government, absolutely, I am on that page. Easier to End the fucking WARS. Then everyone gets their Free Agenda Socialism for awhile, til they run out of money and then we can End Government Forever.
LOOK-The government said 30 years ago that SS was non viable and that my generation would never get benefits, but they did not stop TAKING it out of my check for those 30 and still do. What has been paid in each week I did not save, or have in a personal retirement account. I never believed in this program and for several reasons will never receive, but CRAP STEF, it's not as if people didnt pay in. The deficit is NOT about this! Some misguided blame game. Like welfare queens, not the problem!
@stefbot Do you know that everyone reaching 65 in the US MUST sign up for Medicare B or be penalized, that it's the LAW? These people also LOSE a good portion of primary health insurance they have paid into their entire lives 'Privately' for doing so? It's a goddam scam. A friend who makes close to 200,000 a year, who had great private insurance all life HAD to sign up, and lost much of his private insurance benefits at age 65. Dont blame the people. Research! Wars lose much more money, daily.
: ) hi again. Not trying to be a bother but i have figured out the most efficient restitution possible. One so powerful even the very old corrupt guilty generation that i always figured was the one passing down their horrible habnits would be enlightened to the point of true honest pure rightious change. A possibility brought to you by none other than billions of human being inspired by god knows how many forms of existence that we cant leave uncredited :)
I remember my mom putting a six pack of beer on our bins on Labour Day (May Day in Australia) and a carton at Xmas. When the garbo's were on strike, our bins were always empty. That's how it works.
So many people don't believe it is happening;the welfare state was the "free lunch" and now its time to pay for it.As aleister crowley once said ;"the good things in life should be treated with a degree of distrust"...
The slogan of credit card issuers "have it now and pay later"should ring alarm bells.
Great vid, very provocative. The hippies of the 1960s sang "La La, live for today" but their crass libertinism was a reaction to the crass moralistic hypocrisy of the "Generation of Vipers" (to quote Philip Wylie) that raised them.
As for me, I follow the (fictional) examples of Galt and Roark instead of any living person around me. And I buy silver.
@ 2:40 Stef hits the nail on the head. " Democracy ", the most over rated and over sold ideology in the industrialized era. It's been venerated to sainthood by scumbag politicians across the western hemisphere.
So sacred is this form of govt. that many people accept the atrocities of war, on the belief that forcibly exporting democracy will make the world a better place.
In fact any policy will be generally accepted if the Govt. can ruse its citizens under the guise of democracy.
Is it a bad conscience or no conscience? I think in many cases it’s the latter, because it seems that many of those with power are sociopaths – how we manage this seems crucial because these folk seems to be evolutions favourites at the moment and like turds they often float to the top.
People think energy is abundant, its not. All ambient energy is basically solar derived, even nuclear energy as the radioactive elements were in fact manufactured in the heart of a star.
So this brings us to why were so deeply in debt, mainly because energy is no longer as cheap as it was and it is in fact energy that allows us create credit. So as energy becomes more expensive, the easy & cheap living that we've come to know & expect begins to evaporate & you end up with food riots & bloodshed
@ZedAlfa273 "People think energy is abundant" There is nothing more abundant than energy, since 'E=mc^2'. All scientists understand that scarcity doesn't exist, all economists/politicians believe that abundance doesn't exist, because they have no identity in an abundant world. They are in essence the advocaters of scarcity, by developing a system in which natural abundance gets split up in overabundance for a few, and scarcity for the many. Meet the monetary system.
@nielss4 Silly silly, the majority of energy in the Universe is stored in the form of physical matter not free energy. The scarcity that I should have been more clear about is the scarcity of cheap, easily attainable energy such as in the forms of fossil fuels which are not infinite in resource & thus will eventually go into decline.
Credit is issued on the abundance of cheap energy. As cheap energy becomes scarce, economic growth declines. If its all baloney, why mine the tar sands of Alberta?
@ZedAlfa273 Zero-point energy would like to have a word with you. You need to expand your scientific horizon to quantum levels instead of clinging to the mainstream classical physics consensus. Nassam Haramein would be a good start to catch up on all that's been kept in the dark lately. The Cold War has never ended m8.
@nielss4 Thank you, but I have a very good understanding of Quantum Mechanics and an even better understanding of Thermodynamics. As a scientific concept, the existence of zero-point energy is not controversial although the ability to harness it is.
No device claiming to operate using zero-point energy has ever been demonstrated to operate as claimed. No plausible description of a device drawing power from zero-point energy has ever been given. As it stands now Zero-point power is pseudoscience
@nielss4 Ok, so now were back to conventional energy sources. Energy from sources other than fossil fuels such as wind, tidal, nuclear, solar & geothermal is abundant but is not as cheap & easily accessible. Hemp would be considered energy from biomass, and is renewable, but the land required to grow that much hemp to satisfy our energy needs would be a sizable to the point of not allowing for much else like to be grown, like food for example.
Check out good movie: "Collapse" came out in 2009.
@ZedAlfa273 "Energy from sources other than fossil fuels such as wind, tidal, nuclear, solar & geothermal is abundant but is not as cheap & easily accessible." Yes, and that's exactly the problem. Scarce fossil fuels are cheap and easily accessible, but abundant energy sources are expensive and not easily accessible. So, why aren't you saying: WTF?? Haven't you figured out by now that solutions are abundant, but the monetary system of scarcity is causing interference and armageddon.
@nielss4 No, fossil fuels WERE cheap & easily accessible,not anymore. This is why they're drilling in ultra-deep water & why the Athabasca Tar Sands are now being mined. And its not so much the monetary system as it is those forces who will see fit to keep us in this model until collapse.
Why am I not saying WTF?
Actually I am. And this correspondence that you & I have been having is an example of it. Any economic system dependent on growth must have infinite resources otherwise it collapses
Hey Stefbot people suffering from intellectual ego, I have a secret to tell you: Don't delude yourself into thinking you know the world's solution through a series of organizing the energetic entities in your brain (thoughtforms) into a sensible pattern called logic. This method of understanding is an entirely masculine (thinking) perspective, again suppressing the divine feminine perspective (feeling), thus anarchy is in essence an evolutionary step back. Community is the answer, not anarchy.
@davebrycekopp "Anarchy is just the absence of violence"LOL, great way to twist the term anarchy to your self-deluded perception of the term anarchy.Violence has no inherital connection to anarchy but to nature. However,anarchy lies much closer to nature since it does not seek a universal connection between all humans.Anarchy is by definition a un-empathetic/selfish philosophy and should never become the goal.But in times like these it can "seem" empathetic,only because the current system sucks.
@nielss4 Feeling isn't devine. Feelings operate ***under*** the same immutable laws as logic, miss typical inflated ego. Before you can even know what is real, you need epistemology. How do you know feeling is devine? Feels like it?
it bothers me stef never mentions it really, even goes so far as to make ridiculous videos saying the fed is private(wtf?) which just dismisses the entire issue... you might think this being freedomain radio, he might mention this more and be against usury/theft
i seen lots of stefs vids, maybe hundreds, and he says little on banking powers, other than blame the state. as tho theres not some unseen hand with more reaching powers than obama. international money lenders rule the world now
@ott0Kitam Interesting observation. Yes, what Stef fails to see is that the big banksters and corporations aren't the result of State interference, but the big banksters and corporations have actually bought over the State to implement laws that checkmate/increase their interest over the common folks' interest. There is only 1 rule in this world: MONEY "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws." Your intellectual ego often distracts you from this prime issue.
@nielss4 How did they buy it? Why don't we instead just assert govt's buy the consent of corporations and big banks to better control society? I fail to see why elftists will INSIST on this one way, childish thinking that government is some bunch of angels that is suddenly corrupted by those EBUL corps, as opposed to requiring and desiring their consent and control over them. At the end, it is at its whim that they can be terminated and it does not need them to issue further currency -
@Moragauth - It just needs them to attain a level of vagueness and secrecy, so if things go wrong it can blame said corporations and consequently "capitalism" or the markets or liberty or w/e. It can still engage in counterfeiting of its own accord, as well as debt financing. Just with less reckless abandon and secrecy.
@Moragauth In the end the problem is that political power is there, on offer for sale, not that it is bought on occasion (or however one wishes to view it; it's a "good" that comes with a heavy set of conditions and costs.)
@Moragauth Let me speed up your awakening: You think the State is the problem? Wrong, the State is only a system (body/object/feminine/material/dimensional/absorbation), but a system is nothing/dead without (a) self-conscious being(s) controlling the system (mind/observer/masculine/mental/dimensionless/radiation). In other words, a system/State cannot be bad if controlled by selfless instead of selfish people, meaning psychology is the problem. illuminati-news. com/government-for-the-people.html
@nielss4 " a system/State cannot be bad if controlled by selfless instead of selfish people," Granting for a minute, that systemic realities don't cause bad things to happen, regardless of intentions; how exactly is a government of selfless people possible?
@Tasmosunt "how exactly is a government of selfless people possible?" That's an easy one, stripping people off their wealth when they wish to 'serve the people'! You gotta do better than this mate
@Tasmosunt Nope, wealth/power/status is actually the only true motive of the selfish/elite. If there is no option to improve their relative power over others (this can also be intellectual power) while working in the government, they have no incentive to work in the government! Add to this the 100% inheritance tax (applied to all people), and olichargies will become impossible. Ofcourse I'm not talking communism, I'm talking meritocracy, where equality is the starting point instead of the goal.
@nielss4 " If there is no option to improve their relative power over others" What would prevent all possible means of doing that? "I'm talking meritocracy," Who determines who is of merit?
@Tasmosunt "Who determines who is of merit?" You. The basic assumption is that everybody has a uniqueness/talents to them, and the goal of the government is then to destroy inequality by wealth inherited by birth, so that each person in this world has an equal amount of resources (everyone starts from zero or, instead of some from +200 and others from -20x10 etc.)to start their great life quest to understand their talentss and so bring them to the surface (enlightenment),and thus improve society
@Tasmosunt How about you go to that website I presented you and find the answers to your logical incompletes yourself instead of demanding them from me here on limited chatter youtube comments.
@nielss4 The website-as far as i have seen-is filled with critiques of the current system, not a robust explanation of it's proposed replacement. Also why is it difficult to answer a simple question like how is merit determined in 500 characters?
@Tasmosunt To you this is a very simple question, to me it is a very complex question impossible to answer here. Also, why answer this question when you will present me with another after having answered this one? I simply presented you that there is an alternative to anarchy: meritocracy. Now, decide what is most important to you: Marketing anarchy (blue pill) or finding the best possible alternative to the current system (red pill). Red pill does not care about debates, since it's useless.
@Tasmosunt "So your a dogmatist, who can't even explain there own dogma." Perhaps I am, but that's not the point. The point is that you were just searching for errors in the 'advocater' so you could construct a justification for dismissing the whole concept of meritocracy. That is why I'm not interested in debates in which the whole purpose is to win the logical argument so you can continue selling your stupid anarchist illusion. Such dualistic people are not useful to implement meritocracy.
@nielss4 "The point is that you were just searching for errors in the 'advocater' so you could construct a justification for dismissing the whole concept of meritocracy." I was? I wasn't aware those where my goals. All this time I thought I was trying to get you to clarify your nebulous ideas.
"win the logical argument" Define 'logical argument', and your problem with it.
@Tasmosunt In other words: It is not efficient to waste energy (aka try to convince) on people who have already made up their minds (like you), therefore I might as well let you believe that I'm a charlatan. It is much more efficient to convince your kids who are not set in their ways yet, and still have an open mind and vision.
@Tasmosunt Also, if you're curious, the ending goal of a meritocratic society may look like a 'Venus Project', so, contrary to anarcho-capitalists (grounded fools without vision) it does not write off such a society as futuristic/science-fiction/communism/unrealistic/etc., and contrary to Zeitgeisters (ungrounded fools with too much vision) it does not dwell in futuristic ideals either, but understands the importance of the middle path. So, one could say meritocrats are grounded visionaries.
Hello Stef! You think that countries are in debt because of democracy and you say it's no doubt about it. This is your opinion. I think that countries are in debt because of greed and corruption. democracy is good, greed and corruption are not. if you really believe in anarchy than start living it in your family with your wife and kids. i dont think you will do that, so you're acting like another hypocrite.
@joletilolek That is reality. Deal with it. Democracy is just tyranny of the 50%+1, if that even. Their voracious welfare demands - including with trade union and corporate wlefare demands - have brought about unsustainable levels of debt. Rome had this issue too. We already practise anarchist relations between one another. Why should we be forced to give up our holdings simply because the government demands them, rather than militating for its dissolution? Honestly...
all money that ever comes into existence is issued as a product of our agreement to issue a promissory obligation, and all the money in existence represents our promissory obligations.
"why are all these governments/countries in debt?"
it goes a little deeper than just "democracy"...
interest on money creation is killing the world stef... how can you not see this???
@ott0Kitam Interest on money BORROWED BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATIC WELFARE SYSTEMS. How can you not see it? Not that it's the sole cause, I mean war inflation plays a role too but monetary inflation is what allows for debt to pile up as it does. Democracy and democratic systems are 100% culpable for this. Even absolute monarchies could not get away with the level of abuse it has inflicted on its populace, like a form of cannibalism. It's only "good" because people define/assume it to be so.
@Moragauth all the money that comes into existence is issued as a product of our agreement to issue a promissory obligation. its our money(we create it) banks pretend they do tho and act as issuers of it. banks just publish the evidence of our promisary obligations, (that are really just to each other). banks dont give up any lawful consideration, yet falsify that into a debt to themselves. thats usury, its just stealing unearned money from circulation. interest is a parasite on any economy
@ott0Kitam A promissory obligation to what? Tax funds. Whose? Current generations (depleted) and future. You are correct on what bank notes are - promissory obligations.
Interest has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. It is a pure time phenomenon arising from the fact that a good (by definition homogeneous) now is of more use to that same good in the future, hence a premium is placed upon it. It is a time discount, and also accounts for the opportunity cost of not having that money at -
@Moragauth - (or any lent resources) at one's disposal, the market rate reflecting adjustments for risk and supply/demand. It is not parasitical to the extent that borrowers exhibit a high enough time preference to desire resources now over later. The problem with interest is that the Fed (and other central banks) artificially lower the interest rate to near 0 and let the banks - as the first in line to receive it - benefit massively at everyone else's expense (via monetary corrosion.)
@Moragauth Ordinarily, funds for investment would come out of savings and other time-bound deposits which will earn interest (unlike deposits withdrawable on demand). At the present, any bank reserves can be lent out at exponentially higher amounts allowing the gov't, banks and connected corporations and organisations (like unions) to benefit hugely from what is in essence counterfeiting. Only in this context is interest a form of theft, but not because of what it is by its nature.
@Moragauth all of what you just said, all of it, is after the fact... any money thats put into circulation carries with it interest. this is where the fed or bank of canada or bank or england, etc being private comes into play, and is a massive issue.
they benefit from money that we(the people) create, they just publish evidence of that creation and then we have to pay back the principal + interest... but only the principal exists
@ott0Kitam We don't "create" the money. It's made up out of thin air. Both present and future productivity cannot yield the level of output required to back present amounts of money floating about, let alone debt obligations. As for their being "private" or "Public", it's an irrelevant obfuscation. They are conning us whatever you wish to call them. But it's not because of interest but because the yare allowed to legally counterfeit the currencies they monopolise.
@Moragauth if you arent willing to admit that the fed or the bank of canada or england etc is private, or see the ramifications of that well this conversation is just pointless...
i'll just say im mega-confused as to why or how this doesnt concern stef, how hes so unaware of this all...
and yes, it is "of relevance" who owns the fed... wow just crazy lol
@ott0Kitam They're manifestly not private. The fed's chairman is a central gov't appointee, for crying out loud, and all (?) its "profits" are remitted to the Treasury. He's made an entire video on why it is -not- private. No institution that enjoys the sort of monopolisation on behalf of the gov't (i.e. legal tender laws) could possibly be private. Even its member banks are of dubious "private" status.
The money that we use is loaned into existence and it creates interest - compound interest created the debt bubble - because the money to pay the interest does not exist - so it cannot be paid.
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SUBBED.... my parent lectures me, and when i reword the same lecture with variables that apply to the parent and not to me they change their tune. i like how you recursively expose hypocrisy in the childhood examples. i have had similar experiences, and take shit from no one.
Government is debt because force is used to project "positive rights"... "You owe me", or "I'm entitled". As with inflation, the debt may not always show monetarily, but it's always there. It's there from the start.
@fresheyeball Define "people" and "right to develop". If you mean does a country or society have the right to stop one of its members selling land or developing his land then no. If you mean living like a hunter and gatherer on your own land while infringing on nobody else's rights then yes. One example Walter Block gives is a real estate development, basically there are some places where there is a huge building surrounding a tiny house on three sides where the old lady wouldn't sell.
@Hashishin13 What if its a society with a generally consensus toward a democratic republic state? It may be less developed than a stateless society, but should they have the freedom to do it if they want to?
@fresheyeball "a society with a generally consensus"
First off that is very bad grammar, "general consensus" is what you meant to write I assume. To me "general" before "consensus" more often then not means the same thing as "no" consensus. Unless you have unanimity you can't do it. Imposing your will on someone, who has violated nobody else's rights or property, is a crime whether done through government or not.
@juliecranford Why should it if the debts are not of equivalent amounts or structured on similar terms? Private investors and other governments are not, at present, in debt to each other and where they are, different governments are in debt to different investors and to other different governments. The money is not "owed" to the same people. It cannot cancel out.
"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values." (think Federal Reserve Act -1913)
"Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it becomes, marked: 'Account overdrawn.'"
private central bank vs public central bank = a false argument pushed by Bill Still the masonic shill. The REAL problem is FIAT money
@MoneyIsSilver There is no such thing as objective value. The value of gold is different for every person just like every other thing out there. I am against the force that is used to keep people using fiat but I am not against people freely choosing to use fiat money if that is what they want.
@LatteJonny In the context of the Ayn Rand quote I posted, "objective" is an appropriate word. Yes, all value IS subjective but Rand is using "objective" to say that gold's value is independent of force.
In a free market system, there is no such thing as "fiat" because only government can create fiat money. "Fiat" literally means "by decree".
@MoneyIsSilver I see I have been using the term Fiat incorrectly. Thank you for the correction, I will find another term to describe money that has the same mechanics as fiat without legal tender or other state violence supporting it. My my point still stands though just replace fiat with the word paper since that was my meaning. Private bank notes and private insurance companies acting out the roll of a central bank without state assistance is still a valid alternative to gold.
@LatteJonny Let's say we opened a bank with paper money backed by nothing - no one would use it cause they would be worthless. If you did like the Liberty Dollar, and issue warehouse receipts that represent actual stored precious metals, people will want to buy them for their real value - like they did..that is, up until the government stole all the stored precious metals.
@MoneyIsSilver How do I know when the word objective is to be interpreted to mean without force (yet still subjective) and when it means that it is the product of external physical reality?
@Moragauth Who said it is backed by nothing? its backed by the reputation of the issuing company. Discount cards for example are valuable because people believe the company will honor them. They are used as money right now and would continue to be money in a free society. I'm not saying they would be the dominant form of currency just that someone might use them. Any stock could be used as money as well.
"...when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed."
no one extracted money from stefan's family at gunpoint to send him to a PRIVATE boarding school....isn't he just terribly confused?
paying for whichever school you think is best is the ultimate in free market education, is that not what his parents did for him?....with no guns pointed at them?
@theherdmentality Your confused, he only went to private school as a young child. He moved a lot and when he was talking about that teacher he was in public school.
Interesting video! I do, however, missed a couple points.
stefbot says: "teachers ("old people") teach kids to respect property" is this good or bad? should they teach kids to have no respect for property?
Suppose a guy, who really bad at math, says to you that one must base all decisions on the fact that 2+2=4. Should you reject his advice just because it is widely known, that the guy himself has made a lot of decisions taking for granted, that 2+2=5?
@zezt i'm not saying humans should take over the habitats of other species. It's not that we can't all survive together, it's how we do things that destroys other animal habitats. Try not to get so emotional, i never said or even implied we shouldn't care about animals also. All i said was that i think over population is a myth based on ignorant assumptions
I simply brought it to your conscious attention. I have a strong feeling you knew EXACTLY what you were doing. F&*K currency counterfeiters! FLY AWAY! And crash into the ground!
@stefbot "shit sandwich run ass backwards through a blender"... "Satan's fart shits"... I wish I had the editing skill to combine all the metaphors and beautiful imagery in your videos into a compilation. One of those auto-tune remixes would be killer.
@stefbot P1: 1:22 So is china... there foreign reserves having liabilities attached to them... so they don't "have" that money for a rainy day... Secondly , China's economy has had huge credit expansion which has led to a giant property bubble...Rough estimates are that fixed asset investment i.e property investment are 50-70% of GDP in china. But inflation is high so they raise interest rates.
@stefbot P2: But that reduced growth in property and the all the important GDP figures needed to prop up the communist autocratic government. If they print money and reduce the interest rates. inflation will eat all their wealth away and increase credit at a even higher rate. The property bubble their is about to burst and places such as Brazil and Australia are going down with it.
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SarionFetecuse 17 hours ago
great talk
WhackTheWax 1 day ago
So, what should the 'older generation' have done?
kittencartman 1 week ago
@kittencartman The question to ask is "what should we do to best make it thru this fucking hell?"
MrTruthUnleashed 1 week ago
Hahaha Stef, a sociopath quoting a sociopath, I'm a sociopath too now don't get me wrong, we're all without conscience.
Debt only exists so long as we recognize it to exist and those we are indebted to hold power over us. Most of the debt is artificial to begin with, based on usury and inflation, the debt based monetary economy is unsustainable. A big part of the problem is capitalism.
Capitalism automatically siphons money up to business owners, & creates a whole class of financial predators.
Laughingblades 1 week ago
All you have to know in life is the color pink ;)
rdbottorf 3 weeks ago
Re: 7:18 - 7:35 "As religion declined, faith in the state went up, because lord knows we can't live without a master of some kind,"
In theory,
it was agriculture (farming) that created this inequality; it also created currency. One of the best thing I learned about in the last few years (besides Freedomainradio; thank you Stef) was that farming is inefficient versus gather/grazing.
I made a playlist including this video to share these ideas (work in progress) called "Philosophy of society"
chaosegg 4 weeks ago
John Malkovich?
SooooDylan 1 month ago
Democracy: The God that Failed by Hans Hoppe
mjbarrowful 2 months ago
I'm sorry, but if debt is the foundation of statism, then how are these debts the result of democracy? Wouldn't ANY state go into debt, regardless of how it was organized?
QuatFax 2 months ago
you forgot "hope you're doing very well" at the beginning! :))
sonnyfic 2 months ago
@sonnyfic that's because he really couldn't give a shit about any of you ;))
crazybasement 6 days ago
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If Stefan dealt with the backlog of resentments he has from his formative years, he'd be a lot less prone to these outbursts of bile fuelled rhetoric. His latest rants rest on the fallacy of guilt by association and faulty generalization. Take a sample group (nasty authority figures), attribute a political ideology to the sample group (socialist+/-) and extrapolate. Voila, evil baby boomers have stolen your future. A plank in the eye.
gurnstein 2 months ago
For some reason ole Stef always blames government, never the oppressive capitalist forces who put us into debt and profit from it! Government doesn't carry the burden of a profit motive. You right Stef, it's simple, but you either don't get it or you're being deliberately deceptive.
rusedorange 2 months ago
@rusedorange
the later I fear
gurnstein 2 months ago
Sorry Steph you just don't know what you are talking about when it comes to unions. I do love your sentiments and ideas. I agree with most of what you so eloquently say however I don't believe you know very much about organized labour. Regardless it is always a pleasure listening to you talk. Thank you for all that you do.
OscarLimaMike 2 months ago
@OscarLimaMike dude i got a job at ralphs once and had to join the union. i was startin at minimum wage and they were gonna charge me 50 bucks a month, and i asked them what i get in return? "15 hours a week guaranteed" wow ill just get another job if i cant get 15 hours you douchers.. i went to whole foods with no union and made 11 and hour plus getting a cut if our profits went over! what dont i know about organized labor?i dont think stefans against unions unless theyre government enforced.
xsickzackx 2 months ago
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rusedorange 2 months ago
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@OscarLimaMike I agree, Stefan gravitates naturally toward blaming the puny efforts by the powerless toward carving out some semblance of financial security for themselves, in spite of the fact that Labor has been gutted at every turn in the past 30-40 yrs (Here in the US anyway). The reason he always specifies "Public Sector" unions is because those are the only unions of any consequence left, and THAT Stef is what immoral looks like.
rusedorange 2 months ago
I like this new background. Please continue using it.
ninetales1234 2 months ago
I said the same thing back in the eighty's when I was in my twenties about the benefits in lieu of pay scam. I was labeled as insane and I have never been able to get employment because I am labeled as insane. That's how you shut up a college educated woman is you call her insane so that no one will listen to her or take her seriously. Of course my lack of employment and people calling me insane drove me insane. I was called lazy and unwilling to work. Forget that part about the college.
terrbear903 2 months ago
Ayn Rand is wrong. LOL.
NoogLeader 2 months ago
A "philosophical anarchist" should really know the diff between an object and a concept....
DecassyJake 2 months ago
Anarchy means "without rules"..it's a logical position to take, as.. RULES don't exist in reality(syn-objects in relations).
Stef spins a compelling yarn, like Ayn Rand. they promote a "worldview." Is this what's really going on in society- or in our little portion of reality? Is what Stef lays down..the truth of what is really happening..? "Truth" - a subjective evaluation which comes from following rules to a conclusion. Stef raises rules to the status of an object..Stef aint an anarchist..
DecassyJake 2 months ago
@DecassyJake: 1: "Without rulers," not "without rules". 2: Truth isn't subjective. 3: Stef supports a stateless society, ergo he is an anarchist. Zero out of three ain't bad.
andyissemicool 2 months ago
@andyissemicool1.Concepts such as rules, do not exist as objects in reality.2,truth require an OBSERVER to validate TRUTH, and therefore is subjective..3 Whether or not Stef supports a Stateless society or not he still raises rules above reality..he who does that is not a rigorously, PHILOSOPHICAL anarchist. He makes himself out as an AUTHORITY on truth- due to his slipshod reasoning..a=a is saying precisely NOTHING about reality.
DecassyJake 2 months ago
@DecassyJake: The concept of "two" and "three" don't exist in reality. Yet it is objectively true that two plus three equals five every single time, no matter what tangible or intangible objects are represented by those numbers. I don't get your point. What would make a "real" anarchist to you? I'd love to see what your definition is since you seem to be using your own meanings for words. I can understand how truth would seem subjective when you do that.
andyissemicool 2 months ago
@andyissemicool Truth=opinion, take Stef's opinion for THE TRUTH if you want, axioms don't prove a THING, they are but but circular statements. Truth is ALWAYS true when you follow the rules. Rules are invented by humans..Stef's non defs for truth and absolute and trying to PRESCRIBE UNIVERSAL ABSOLUTIST MORALITY, make him a RULER, by default..he's just following rules..he LOVES rules, they make him income..anarchist my ass!
DecassyJake 2 months ago
Awesome. Knocking the truth out o' the park with a finely crafted Louisiana walking cane.
All the crowd can do is look up through the clouds of their cataract eyes, mouths gaping, skulls empty,yet filled only with the sound of their loosening dentures.
eyejudgeeverything 2 months ago
@eyejudgeeverything that is a very fine metaphor, thank you!
stefbot 2 months ago
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gurnstein 2 months ago
Thanks for doing these videos. No money here, at present, but I greatly appreciate all that you do.
tenementgeek 2 months ago
@tenementgeek There are things you can do to help promote the site and/or the ideas put forth by the freedomain radio's author. Please check out "Shaking your ass for freedom" here on youtube for a few ideas that you may prove to be reasonable. If not, feel free to contact me for ideas that won't affect your budget in these dark times.
eyejudgeeverything 2 months ago
I'm just wondering Stefan...
You seem to think democracy is bad. If I'm not mistaken, democracy means "the people rule". Isn't that anarchy? True democracy must be anarchist, the governments "democracy", where the people decide... who rules them, is very false. You can't rule yourself if someone else rules you.
A bit strange comment maybe but I think you understand what I mean.
JustSolveIt 2 months ago
@JustSolveIt Anarchy means 'without rulers' - whether it is democratic collective or individual despot...
stefbot 2 months ago 4
@stefbot Or mental Rules of "Logic" and "Reason". LOL. Anarchy is irrational.
NoogLeader 2 months ago
The best yet. The things that you talk about have been floating around in my head for a little while, and you did a good job of putting it into words. Thanks for this. I'm going to watch it again because it's inspirational. I don't get on with my dad; I love him, but he is a brick wall. He is extremely well read, loves Ayn Rand like teenagers love Lady Gaga, but he is SO judgmental! He needs to watch this.
anafael1 2 months ago
@anafael1 thank you so much!
stefbot 2 months ago
Why, specifically is America in debt?
Lots of unfunded expenditures, like you said.
For instance, one that POPS OUT is the UNFUNDED Wars.
Another Big expenditure that POPS OUT is the decade of BIG TAX CUTS for the wealthiest Americans over the last 10 years.
Another is: The fact that America was in RECESSION just after 911 attack - and the way the US tried to get out of recession was to tell everyone to buy a house, get mortages(derivitives) & BUST!
Entitlements were fully viable before all this
Clarissa2424 2 months ago
God is love. Love is the answer.
Before you fall for the vanity and pride of certain individuals and their "answers" - remember how much children hope and yearn for love in their lives.
"religion is for people who are afraid to go to hell - spirituality is for those who have already been there."
Don't fall for the empty and bitter rhetoric of people who believe only in themselves. Vanity.
religion is a mess - because people are.
Don't let the privileged nihilists draw you away from God's love.
telemetry9 2 months ago
@telemetry9 Oh please. Your'e not dumb enough to believe that the ONLY alternative to christianity is nihilism, do you?
nurbSoldier 2 months ago
Stefan is the modern day Plato.
TheJovanist 2 months ago
@TheJovanist Yes, therefore it's good to let him brainwash you to do his bidding with his overcomplicated logical sequences.
nielss4 2 months ago
The answer is too horrible (in the US) because of the WARS. That is the bleeding in every way. End government, absolutely, I am on that page. Easier to End the fucking WARS. Then everyone gets their Free Agenda Socialism for awhile, til they run out of money and then we can End Government Forever.
SonjaSmith 2 months ago
LOOK-The government said 30 years ago that SS was non viable and that my generation would never get benefits, but they did not stop TAKING it out of my check for those 30 and still do. What has been paid in each week I did not save, or have in a personal retirement account. I never believed in this program and for several reasons will never receive, but CRAP STEF, it's not as if people didnt pay in. The deficit is NOT about this! Some misguided blame game. Like welfare queens, not the problem!
SonjaSmith 2 months ago
@stefbot Do you know that everyone reaching 65 in the US MUST sign up for Medicare B or be penalized, that it's the LAW? These people also LOSE a good portion of primary health insurance they have paid into their entire lives 'Privately' for doing so? It's a goddam scam. A friend who makes close to 200,000 a year, who had great private insurance all life HAD to sign up, and lost much of his private insurance benefits at age 65. Dont blame the people. Research! Wars lose much more money, daily.
SonjaSmith 2 months ago
@SonjaSmith Could you provide a source for that? I'd like to share that with some people.
shamgar001 2 months ago
@shamgar001 Sure, will send through your Inbox. Give me til tomorrow, it's 3am for me right now.
SonjaSmith 2 months ago
: ) hi again. Not trying to be a bother but i have figured out the most efficient restitution possible. One so powerful even the very old corrupt guilty generation that i always figured was the one passing down their horrible habnits would be enlightened to the point of true honest pure rightious change. A possibility brought to you by none other than billions of human being inspired by god knows how many forms of existence that we cant leave uncredited :)
Bwood21788 2 months ago
I'm not sure what you changed, but the audio in this video has excellent quality
RogueSwordThesco 2 months ago
I remember my mom putting a six pack of beer on our bins on Labour Day (May Day in Australia) and a carton at Xmas. When the garbo's were on strike, our bins were always empty. That's how it works.
baalisgod666 2 months ago
So many people don't believe it is happening;the welfare state was the "free lunch" and now its time to pay for it.As aleister crowley once said ;"the good things in life should be treated with a degree of distrust"...
The slogan of credit card issuers "have it now and pay later"should ring alarm bells.
PERFECTARYANBASTARD 2 months ago
Great vid, very provocative. The hippies of the 1960s sang "La La, live for today" but their crass libertinism was a reaction to the crass moralistic hypocrisy of the "Generation of Vipers" (to quote Philip Wylie) that raised them.
As for me, I follow the (fictional) examples of Galt and Roark instead of any living person around me. And I buy silver.
Torgo1969 2 months ago
government is awesome, this year it gave me half of what it took from me in taxes.
Mr1B2D3F 2 months ago
Stef is growing a beard to protest the sale of unborn generations.
codecixteen 2 months ago
@codecixteen No, hes growing a beard because hes a bamf.
PaperSoapy 2 months ago
@ 2:40 Stef hits the nail on the head. " Democracy ", the most over rated and over sold ideology in the industrialized era. It's been venerated to sainthood by scumbag politicians across the western hemisphere.
So sacred is this form of govt. that many people accept the atrocities of war, on the belief that forcibly exporting democracy will make the world a better place.
In fact any policy will be generally accepted if the Govt. can ruse its citizens under the guise of democracy.
rllang01 2 months ago
Is it a bad conscience or no conscience? I think in many cases it’s the latter, because it seems that many of those with power are sociopaths – how we manage this seems crucial because these folk seems to be evolutions favourites at the moment and like turds they often float to the top.
ehpl 2 months ago
People think energy is abundant, its not. All ambient energy is basically solar derived, even nuclear energy as the radioactive elements were in fact manufactured in the heart of a star.
So this brings us to why were so deeply in debt, mainly because energy is no longer as cheap as it was and it is in fact energy that allows us create credit. So as energy becomes more expensive, the easy & cheap living that we've come to know & expect begins to evaporate & you end up with food riots & bloodshed
ZedAlfa273 2 months ago
@ZedAlfa273 "People think energy is abundant" There is nothing more abundant than energy, since 'E=mc^2'. All scientists understand that scarcity doesn't exist, all economists/politicians believe that abundance doesn't exist, because they have no identity in an abundant world. They are in essence the advocaters of scarcity, by developing a system in which natural abundance gets split up in overabundance for a few, and scarcity for the many. Meet the monetary system.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 Silly silly, the majority of energy in the Universe is stored in the form of physical matter not free energy. The scarcity that I should have been more clear about is the scarcity of cheap, easily attainable energy such as in the forms of fossil fuels which are not infinite in resource & thus will eventually go into decline.
Credit is issued on the abundance of cheap energy. As cheap energy becomes scarce, economic growth declines. If its all baloney, why mine the tar sands of Alberta?
ZedAlfa273 2 months ago
@ZedAlfa273 Zero-point energy would like to have a word with you. You need to expand your scientific horizon to quantum levels instead of clinging to the mainstream classical physics consensus. Nassam Haramein would be a good start to catch up on all that's been kept in the dark lately. The Cold War has never ended m8.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 Thank you, but I have a very good understanding of Quantum Mechanics and an even better understanding of Thermodynamics. As a scientific concept, the existence of zero-point energy is not controversial although the ability to harness it is.
No device claiming to operate using zero-point energy has ever been demonstrated to operate as claimed. No plausible description of a device drawing power from zero-point energy has ever been given. As it stands now Zero-point power is pseudoscience
ZedAlfa273 2 months ago
@ZedAlfa273 Geothermal, hemp?
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 Ok, so now were back to conventional energy sources. Energy from sources other than fossil fuels such as wind, tidal, nuclear, solar & geothermal is abundant but is not as cheap & easily accessible. Hemp would be considered energy from biomass, and is renewable, but the land required to grow that much hemp to satisfy our energy needs would be a sizable to the point of not allowing for much else like to be grown, like food for example.
Check out good movie: "Collapse" came out in 2009.
ZedAlfa273 2 months ago
@ZedAlfa273 "Energy from sources other than fossil fuels such as wind, tidal, nuclear, solar & geothermal is abundant but is not as cheap & easily accessible." Yes, and that's exactly the problem. Scarce fossil fuels are cheap and easily accessible, but abundant energy sources are expensive and not easily accessible. So, why aren't you saying: WTF?? Haven't you figured out by now that solutions are abundant, but the monetary system of scarcity is causing interference and armageddon.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 No, fossil fuels WERE cheap & easily accessible,not anymore. This is why they're drilling in ultra-deep water & why the Athabasca Tar Sands are now being mined. And its not so much the monetary system as it is those forces who will see fit to keep us in this model until collapse.
Why am I not saying WTF?
Actually I am. And this correspondence that you & I have been having is an example of it. Any economic system dependent on growth must have infinite resources otherwise it collapses
ZedAlfa273 2 months ago
I love your super cereal dramatic endings
JiayoJames 2 months ago
So... if someone builds a road around your house and charges you 1 milion dollars.. what DO YOU do?
STAB1L 2 months ago
@STAB1L You do this: youtube.com/watch?v=1lG7HQXSOV0
nielss4 2 months ago
@STAB1L you say fuck you man, suck mah dick
JiayoJames 2 months ago
Although I don't %100 agree with you, I really enjoy listening because you make me think
tbohman1331 2 months ago
Hey Stefbot people suffering from intellectual ego, I have a secret to tell you: Don't delude yourself into thinking you know the world's solution through a series of organizing the energetic entities in your brain (thoughtforms) into a sensible pattern called logic. This method of understanding is an entirely masculine (thinking) perspective, again suppressing the divine feminine perspective (feeling), thus anarchy is in essence an evolutionary step back. Community is the answer, not anarchy.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 Anarchy is just the absence of violence. Community fits well within this.
davebrycekopp 2 months ago
@davebrycekopp "Anarchy is just the absence of violence"LOL, great way to twist the term anarchy to your self-deluded perception of the term anarchy.Violence has no inherital connection to anarchy but to nature. However,anarchy lies much closer to nature since it does not seek a universal connection between all humans.Anarchy is by definition a un-empathetic/selfish philosophy and should never become the goal.But in times like these it can "seem" empathetic,only because the current system sucks.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 Feeling isn't devine. Feelings operate ***under*** the same immutable laws as logic, miss typical inflated ego. Before you can even know what is real, you need epistemology. How do you know feeling is devine? Feels like it?
LibertySteve 2 months ago
*public
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
it bothers me stef never mentions it really, even goes so far as to make ridiculous videos saying the fed is private(wtf?) which just dismisses the entire issue... you might think this being freedomain radio, he might mention this more and be against usury/theft
i seen lots of stefs vids, maybe hundreds, and he says little on banking powers, other than blame the state. as tho theres not some unseen hand with more reaching powers than obama. international money lenders rule the world now
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@ott0Kitam Interesting observation. Yes, what Stef fails to see is that the big banksters and corporations aren't the result of State interference, but the big banksters and corporations have actually bought over the State to implement laws that checkmate/increase their interest over the common folks' interest. There is only 1 rule in this world: MONEY "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws." Your intellectual ego often distracts you from this prime issue.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 its be
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@nielss4 its been happening for a couple centuries at least... private banks issuing the currency to nations...
yet its like stef is been living in a bubble and is unaware of this situation
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@nielss4 How did they buy it? Why don't we instead just assert govt's buy the consent of corporations and big banks to better control society? I fail to see why elftists will INSIST on this one way, childish thinking that government is some bunch of angels that is suddenly corrupted by those EBUL corps, as opposed to requiring and desiring their consent and control over them. At the end, it is at its whim that they can be terminated and it does not need them to issue further currency -
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth - It just needs them to attain a level of vagueness and secrecy, so if things go wrong it can blame said corporations and consequently "capitalism" or the markets or liberty or w/e. It can still engage in counterfeiting of its own accord, as well as debt financing. Just with less reckless abandon and secrecy.
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth In the end the problem is that political power is there, on offer for sale, not that it is bought on occasion (or however one wishes to view it; it's a "good" that comes with a heavy set of conditions and costs.)
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth Let me speed up your awakening: You think the State is the problem? Wrong, the State is only a system (body/object/feminine/material/dimensional/absorbation), but a system is nothing/dead without (a) self-conscious being(s) controlling the system (mind/observer/masculine/mental/dimensionless/radiation). In other words, a system/State cannot be bad if controlled by selfless instead of selfish people, meaning psychology is the problem. illuminati-news. com/government-for-the-people.html
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 " a system/State cannot be bad if controlled by selfless instead of selfish people," Granting for a minute, that systemic realities don't cause bad things to happen, regardless of intentions; how exactly is a government of selfless people possible?
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt "how exactly is a government of selfless people possible?" That's an easy one, stripping people off their wealth when they wish to 'serve the people'! You gotta do better than this mate
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 That wouldn't change there motives, that simply remove one avenue of personal gain, there are plenty of others.
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt Nope, wealth/power/status is actually the only true motive of the selfish/elite. If there is no option to improve their relative power over others (this can also be intellectual power) while working in the government, they have no incentive to work in the government! Add to this the 100% inheritance tax (applied to all people), and olichargies will become impossible. Ofcourse I'm not talking communism, I'm talking meritocracy, where equality is the starting point instead of the goal.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 " If there is no option to improve their relative power over others" What would prevent all possible means of doing that? "I'm talking meritocracy," Who determines who is of merit?
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt "Who determines who is of merit?" You. The basic assumption is that everybody has a uniqueness/talents to them, and the goal of the government is then to destroy inequality by wealth inherited by birth, so that each person in this world has an equal amount of resources (everyone starts from zero or, instead of some from +200 and others from -20x10 etc.)to start their great life quest to understand their talentss and so bring them to the surface (enlightenment),and thus improve society
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 That doesn't explain how merit is determined. Do you have concrete explanation?
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt How about you go to that website I presented you and find the answers to your logical incompletes yourself instead of demanding them from me here on limited chatter youtube comments.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 The website-as far as i have seen-is filled with critiques of the current system, not a robust explanation of it's proposed replacement. Also why is it difficult to answer a simple question like how is merit determined in 500 characters?
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt To you this is a very simple question, to me it is a very complex question impossible to answer here. Also, why answer this question when you will present me with another after having answered this one? I simply presented you that there is an alternative to anarchy: meritocracy. Now, decide what is most important to you: Marketing anarchy (blue pill) or finding the best possible alternative to the current system (red pill). Red pill does not care about debates, since it's useless.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 "Red pill does not care about debates, since it's useless" So your a dogmatist, who can't even explain there own dogma.
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt "So your a dogmatist, who can't even explain there own dogma." Perhaps I am, but that's not the point. The point is that you were just searching for errors in the 'advocater' so you could construct a justification for dismissing the whole concept of meritocracy. That is why I'm not interested in debates in which the whole purpose is to win the logical argument so you can continue selling your stupid anarchist illusion. Such dualistic people are not useful to implement meritocracy.
nielss4 2 months ago
@nielss4 "The point is that you were just searching for errors in the 'advocater' so you could construct a justification for dismissing the whole concept of meritocracy." I was? I wasn't aware those where my goals. All this time I thought I was trying to get you to clarify your nebulous ideas.
"win the logical argument" Define 'logical argument', and your problem with it.
Tasmosunt 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt In other words: It is not efficient to waste energy (aka try to convince) on people who have already made up their minds (like you), therefore I might as well let you believe that I'm a charlatan. It is much more efficient to convince your kids who are not set in their ways yet, and still have an open mind and vision.
nielss4 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt Also, if you're curious, the ending goal of a meritocratic society may look like a 'Venus Project', so, contrary to anarcho-capitalists (grounded fools without vision) it does not write off such a society as futuristic/science-fiction/communism/unrealistic/etc., and contrary to Zeitgeisters (ungrounded fools with too much vision) it does not dwell in futuristic ideals either, but understands the importance of the middle path. So, one could say meritocrats are grounded visionaries.
nielss4 2 months ago
@Tasmosunt armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/The-Meritocracy-Party%282543605%29.htm
nielss4 2 months ago
Hello Stef! You think that countries are in debt because of democracy and you say it's no doubt about it. This is your opinion. I think that countries are in debt because of greed and corruption. democracy is good, greed and corruption are not. if you really believe in anarchy than start living it in your family with your wife and kids. i dont think you will do that, so you're acting like another hypocrite.
joletilolek 2 months ago
@joletilolek That is reality. Deal with it. Democracy is just tyranny of the 50%+1, if that even. Their voracious welfare demands - including with trade union and corporate wlefare demands - have brought about unsustainable levels of debt. Rome had this issue too. We already practise anarchist relations between one another. Why should we be forced to give up our holdings simply because the government demands them, rather than militating for its dissolution? Honestly...
Moragauth 2 months ago
3:22 Zombie?
Xtro2005 2 months ago
"profit raking piratical scumbaggery" ... lol, def a stefbot video :-)
ArchimedeanEye 2 months ago
socialist hates individualism maybe because socialist doesn`t have any talents at all. Anyone ever met a tallented socialist??
ChunkyButtjuice 2 months ago
all money that ever comes into existence is issued as a product of our agreement to issue a promissory obligation, and all the money in existence represents our promissory obligations.
"why are all these governments/countries in debt?"
it goes a little deeper than just "democracy"...
interest on money creation is killing the world stef... how can you not see this???
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@ott0Kitam Interest on money BORROWED BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATIC WELFARE SYSTEMS. How can you not see it? Not that it's the sole cause, I mean war inflation plays a role too but monetary inflation is what allows for debt to pile up as it does. Democracy and democratic systems are 100% culpable for this. Even absolute monarchies could not get away with the level of abuse it has inflicted on its populace, like a form of cannibalism. It's only "good" because people define/assume it to be so.
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth all the money that comes into existence is issued as a product of our agreement to issue a promissory obligation. its our money(we create it) banks pretend they do tho and act as issuers of it. banks just publish the evidence of our promisary obligations, (that are really just to each other). banks dont give up any lawful consideration, yet falsify that into a debt to themselves. thats usury, its just stealing unearned money from circulation. interest is a parasite on any economy
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@ott0Kitam A promissory obligation to what? Tax funds. Whose? Current generations (depleted) and future. You are correct on what bank notes are - promissory obligations.
Interest has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. It is a pure time phenomenon arising from the fact that a good (by definition homogeneous) now is of more use to that same good in the future, hence a premium is placed upon it. It is a time discount, and also accounts for the opportunity cost of not having that money at -
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth - (or any lent resources) at one's disposal, the market rate reflecting adjustments for risk and supply/demand. It is not parasitical to the extent that borrowers exhibit a high enough time preference to desire resources now over later. The problem with interest is that the Fed (and other central banks) artificially lower the interest rate to near 0 and let the banks - as the first in line to receive it - benefit massively at everyone else's expense (via monetary corrosion.)
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth Ordinarily, funds for investment would come out of savings and other time-bound deposits which will earn interest (unlike deposits withdrawable on demand). At the present, any bank reserves can be lent out at exponentially higher amounts allowing the gov't, banks and connected corporations and organisations (like unions) to benefit hugely from what is in essence counterfeiting. Only in this context is interest a form of theft, but not because of what it is by its nature.
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth all of what you just said, all of it, is after the fact... any money thats put into circulation carries with it interest. this is where the fed or bank of canada or bank or england, etc being private comes into play, and is a massive issue.
they benefit from money that we(the people) create, they just publish evidence of that creation and then we have to pay back the principal + interest... but only the principal exists
this has everything to do with everything
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@ott0Kitam We don't "create" the money. It's made up out of thin air. Both present and future productivity cannot yield the level of output required to back present amounts of money floating about, let alone debt obligations. As for their being "private" or "Public", it's an irrelevant obfuscation. They are conning us whatever you wish to call them. But it's not because of interest but because the yare allowed to legally counterfeit the currencies they monopolise.
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth if you arent willing to admit that the fed or the bank of canada or england etc is private, or see the ramifications of that well this conversation is just pointless...
i'll just say im mega-confused as to why or how this doesnt concern stef, how hes so unaware of this all...
and yes, it is "of relevance" who owns the fed... wow just crazy lol
peace :)
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
@ott0Kitam They're manifestly not private. The fed's chairman is a central gov't appointee, for crying out loud, and all (?) its "profits" are remitted to the Treasury. He's made an entire video on why it is -not- private. No institution that enjoys the sort of monopolisation on behalf of the gov't (i.e. legal tender laws) could possibly be private. Even its member banks are of dubious "private" status.
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth again... seriously, just wow
peace :)
ott0Kitam 2 months ago
Stef is wrong again!
The money that we use is loaned into existence and it creates interest - compound interest created the debt bubble - because the money to pay the interest does not exist - so it cannot be paid.
aandras22 2 months ago
a little self indulgent, but i like your show
CmshnrBlu 2 months ago
If I'm ever a millionaire, famous musician one day, and I plan on it, I will donate every penny I can to FreeDomainRadio. It's the best, thanks to you sir for all the enlightenment you have brought me. I will repay it one day! P.S. The half beard looks good :)
StevenPorterMusic 2 months ago
@stefbot do you have a podcast on itunes? I'd like to hear your stories as an audio file.
Chriznak 2 months ago
SUBBED.... my parent lectures me, and when i reword the same lecture with variables that apply to the parent and not to me they change their tune. i like how you recursively expose hypocrisy in the childhood examples. i have had similar experiences, and take shit from no one.
666threesixes666 2 months ago
The current system is unsustainable!
bushpigification 2 months ago
Government is debt because force is used to project "positive rights"... "You owe me", or "I'm entitled". As with inflation, the debt may not always show monetarily, but it's always there. It's there from the start.
LibertySteve 2 months ago
What's with the bristles, Stef? ;-)
3rdear 2 months ago
@3rdear If only he would grow a philosophers beard! My year would be made.
Killedkennyagain 2 months ago
Wow, so getting bigger and bigger in debt is inherent to democracies, awesome stuff! I hadn't heard this one before.
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MultiAhka 2 months ago
Do people have the right to develop at their own pace?
fresheyeball 3 months ago
@fresheyeball Define "people" and "right to develop". If you mean does a country or society have the right to stop one of its members selling land or developing his land then no. If you mean living like a hunter and gatherer on your own land while infringing on nobody else's rights then yes. One example Walter Block gives is a real estate development, basically there are some places where there is a huge building surrounding a tiny house on three sides where the old lady wouldn't sell.
Hashishin13 2 months ago
@Hashishin13 What if its a society with a generally consensus toward a democratic republic state? It may be less developed than a stateless society, but should they have the freedom to do it if they want to?
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@fresheyeball "a society with a generally consensus"
First off that is very bad grammar, "general consensus" is what you meant to write I assume. To me "general" before "consensus" more often then not means the same thing as "no" consensus. Unless you have unanimity you can't do it. Imposing your will on someone, who has violated nobody else's rights or property, is a crime whether done through government or not.
Hashishin13 2 months ago
Who are all the gubments in debt TO?
juliecranford 3 months ago
@juliecranford Each other, and private investors. Ever heard of government bonds? "Buy war bonds!" from ww2 posters? That is government debt.
Hashishin13 2 months ago
@Hashishin13 If they're in debt to each other, doesn't that just cancel out?
juliecranford 2 months ago
@juliecranford Why should it if the debts are not of equivalent amounts or structured on similar terms? Private investors and other governments are not, at present, in debt to each other and where they are, different governments are in debt to different investors and to other different governments. The money is not "owed" to the same people. It cannot cancel out.
Moragauth 2 months ago
To quote Jim Sinclair "Rise of East, Fall of West".
1977Melville 3 months ago
My parents should watch this video.
1977Melville 3 months ago
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MoneyIsSilver 3 months ago
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"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values." (think Federal Reserve Act -1913)
MoneyIsSilver 3 months ago
"Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it becomes, marked: 'Account overdrawn.'"
private central bank vs public central bank = a false argument pushed by Bill Still the masonic shill. The REAL problem is FIAT money
MoneyIsSilver 3 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver There is no such thing as objective value. The value of gold is different for every person just like every other thing out there. I am against the force that is used to keep people using fiat but I am not against people freely choosing to use fiat money if that is what they want.
LatteJonny 3 months ago
@LatteJonny In the context of the Ayn Rand quote I posted, "objective" is an appropriate word. Yes, all value IS subjective but Rand is using "objective" to say that gold's value is independent of force.
In a free market system, there is no such thing as "fiat" because only government can create fiat money. "Fiat" literally means "by decree".
MoneyIsSilver 2 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver I see I have been using the term Fiat incorrectly. Thank you for the correction, I will find another term to describe money that has the same mechanics as fiat without legal tender or other state violence supporting it. My my point still stands though just replace fiat with the word paper since that was my meaning. Private bank notes and private insurance companies acting out the roll of a central bank without state assistance is still a valid alternative to gold.
LatteJonny 2 months ago
@LatteJonny Let's say we opened a bank with paper money backed by nothing - no one would use it cause they would be worthless. If you did like the Liberty Dollar, and issue warehouse receipts that represent actual stored precious metals, people will want to buy them for their real value - like they did..that is, up until the government stole all the stored precious metals.
MoneyIsSilver 2 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver How do I know when the word objective is to be interpreted to mean without force (yet still subjective) and when it means that it is the product of external physical reality?
LatteJonny 2 months ago
@LatteJonny Who is going to accept paper backed by absolutely nothing as money?
Moragauth 2 months ago
@Moragauth Who said it is backed by nothing? its backed by the reputation of the issuing company. Discount cards for example are valuable because people believe the company will honor them. They are used as money right now and would continue to be money in a free society. I'm not saying they would be the dominant form of currency just that someone might use them. Any stock could be used as money as well.
LatteJonny 2 months ago
@LatteJonny Answer: When the paragraph is comparing the subjective value of fiat currency to the value of gold.
MoneyIsSilver 2 months ago
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MoneyIsSilver 3 months ago
"...when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed."
MoneyIsSilver 3 months ago 2
no one extracted money from stefan's family at gunpoint to send him to a PRIVATE boarding school....isn't he just terribly confused?
paying for whichever school you think is best is the ultimate in free market education, is that not what his parents did for him?....with no guns pointed at them?
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@theherdmentality Your confused, he only went to private school as a young child. He moved a lot and when he was talking about that teacher he was in public school.
Hashishin13 2 months ago
Interesting video! I do, however, missed a couple points.
stefbot says: "teachers ("old people") teach kids to respect property" is this good or bad? should they teach kids to have no respect for property?
Suppose a guy, who really bad at math, says to you that one must base all decisions on the fact that 2+2=4. Should you reject his advice just because it is widely known, that the guy himself has made a lot of decisions taking for granted, that 2+2=5?
CosmicBoss2 3 months ago
"DUN DUN DUN", should have been at the end. And then the dramatic groundhog or hamster.
MRSketch09 3 months ago
@zezt i'm not saying humans should take over the habitats of other species. It's not that we can't all survive together, it's how we do things that destroys other animal habitats. Try not to get so emotional, i never said or even implied we shouldn't care about animals also. All i said was that i think over population is a myth based on ignorant assumptions
st3jace 3 months ago
You are scarey, man... you're too intelligent.
ytrogergt 3 months ago
You ripped the page with roman coins? The origin of FIAT currency. How ironic.
EndTheResistance 3 months ago 4
@EndTheResistance that is a genius observation, thank you
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EndTheResistance 3 months ago
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I simply brought it to your conscious attention. I have a strong feeling you knew EXACTLY what you were doing. F&*K currency counterfeiters! FLY AWAY! And crash into the ground!
EndTheResistance 3 months ago
@stefbot "shit sandwich run ass backwards through a blender"... "Satan's fart shits"... I wish I had the editing skill to combine all the metaphors and beautiful imagery in your videos into a compilation. One of those auto-tune remixes would be killer.
MerlinOlsen 3 months ago
@stefbot P1: 1:22 So is china... there foreign reserves having liabilities attached to them... so they don't "have" that money for a rainy day... Secondly , China's economy has had huge credit expansion which has led to a giant property bubble...Rough estimates are that fixed asset investment i.e property investment are 50-70% of GDP in china. But inflation is high so they raise interest rates.
mrfcukdevil 2 months ago
@stefbot P2: But that reduced growth in property and the all the important GDP figures needed to prop up the communist autocratic government. If they print money and reduce the interest rates. inflation will eat all their wealth away and increase credit at a even higher rate. The property bubble their is about to burst and places such as Brazil and Australia are going down with it.
mrfcukdevil 2 months ago