Mini-Motor-Gen (Try 2) part2

[ufopolitics]

@Rod5157: My opinion to your experiment is to add a Pulsed Width Modulator Controller, and test the outputs with an Electrolytic Cap connected, to retain-store the Max Volts Out, etc...then read it off the Cap.

The Ideal testing would be with a Dual Channel Oscilloscope.. Channel A Input, Ch B On Output...

Keep up your work, is good...It is similar to a combination of Beddini's-Searl Motors Generators...search them.

[ke4uyp]

Why would anyone spend several months building a device like this and not take two minutes to google measuring power output is beyond me.

[mthemaniac]

All these over unity magnetic motor guys are brilliant enough to create these devices yet haven't the elementary knowledge to properly demonstrate the results. Even if by some miracle they actually discovered something, they don't know how to demonstrate it and thus will be branded as fakers. I wish just one of them would read a basic electronics book then come back with proof the device works. Of course the ones that take this step certainly will discover their device does not work.

[ufopolitics]

@mthemaniac :

Had You ever heard of Radiant Energy, Zero Point or Ether?...

Had You heard of Dr. Aspden proven thesis?

Do You know who Ed Gray was?...Know about His Motor?

Do You know who was DR. Thomas Henry Moray?

Ever Heard of Floyd Sweet and his VTA?

And finally...Ever heard of Nikola Tesla?

Well, it seems You know some electronics-Electricity, the one the Orthodox Science had shown to you...and You obviously, abide and totally devoted to them...

[ufopolitics]

@mthemaniac : Do You think that every one that had worked on this projects along our history, is an Ignorant, a "Garage" Lab Worker, without the basic knowledge into the "Real Books" Of Electronics, Electromagnetism, Electricity, etc,etc?

Try Me...

[ufopolitics]

@mthemaniac: You sent me this private message...Why not public??, so anyone could read it??

To:ufopolitics

Yes, you are comparing voltages, voltage is not power. I really wish this worked but you have to demonstrate a power gain, a voltage gain does not demonstrate this. If you can demonstrate a power gain then that would be really cool. Put current meters in along with the volt meters.

Thanks

Mk

[mthemaniac]

@ufopolitics The thing is that you need to clarify that current is not changed or is increased. Saying things like "volts of power" is just plain wrong. If you are maintaining equal or greater current and increasing voltage then yes, it works! I never said your device doesn't work just that you didn't do an adequate job of proving it works. Demonstrate it properly, demonstrate power not voltage or demonstrate both current and voltage at the same time. I want this to work!

[ufopolitics]

Now I will answer in public to your "private" message...

I know exactly that Voltage is not Power, but it is 50% of it, since Power(W)=V. I , Then it means they are (V&I) directly proportional to Power, meaning, if You increase Voltage(V) or Amperage (I), Power will also Increase.

Therefore, a Voltage DOES demonstrates a Power Gain!!

[ufopolitics]

@mthemaniac : Now, an example, if You get In 12 Volts and 30 Amps in an specific system or 'apparatus', you have input 360 Watts of Power...If You get Out (Output) 200 Volts and 10 Amps, that means You have 2000 Watts of Power, even with smaller Amperage in the Output. So, Output>Input.

You have to do some more study, my friend, you're not capable to argue with me...learn some more.

[valveman12]

There is a problem with your setup. All you measured was voltage. Just because you are getting move voltage at the output means nothing if you don't also measure the current. Power is calculated by P=VXI. You have not shown you are getting more power out than it. Measure the current and you will find the currnet out is much less than the current in therefore Power out will be much less than power in.

[smokemansmoker]

Does that mean you can hook the output wires to the input and give the wheel a spin and it will run without the batteries?

[ufopolitics]

@smokemansmoker : No you can not do that...because there must be a "constant" supply in order to render an output. Just "spinning it" would not generate a steady, constant Input. even if the Output is higher than Input.

[mihaizzav]

An old tv produces somewhere over 30kV from 220V but that doesn't mean it's overunity

[1275morris]

power = current x voltage. try the experiment with an ammeter on the input and output, and the current going out will be less than the current going in.

[tonytvtech]

o man voltage out is bigger than input give us a break were not in kindergarden. thats not free energy.

[TinselKoala]

In the video, is the watch battery in the circuit, that is, is it being charged, thus acting as a load, or is the output voltage reading on your meter "unloaded"? If the latter, it isn't so impressive, but if you are seeing that voltage output under load, it's a start.

But please don't confuse "power" and voltage. Power is the product of voltage and current, to oversimplify. Just because your output voltage is greater than your input, doesn't mean the power is greater.

[fdoca]

TinselKoala, can You help to write a list of parts for this motor? I can't find on his web site, thank you.

[TinselKoala]

I think it's very simple, just coils from RadShak relays, full-wave rectifier bridges, a little motor, and some magnets. Oh, and those darn batteries.

I believe the exact schematic (or a pretty good guess) is posted on that over unity forum thread.

Good hunting!

[fdoca]

TinselKoala ,

thank you very much,

I will search for it.