Pig Bush fukn fake war on terror killing army and babies to deploy army invade free states capturing their resources propaganda war wasting tax payer money Jewish lobbies in hell forever UK India america Israel made for burn and pains they deserve really but their politicians army not public destroying free nations like Kashmir,Afghanistan,Palestine,etc for their hidden dirty desires.only Real Hero is GOD who will put all pigs in hell forever for their shittts after destroying whole universe.
I have a few rolls that must be 20 years old by now... you're right, they are strong as hell. You can pull all you want and there's no stretch. However, they tear along their length quite easily. I don't know if that's from age or not.
there is another mig 29 by art tech with the same power system.. you will be glad to know that they came up with v2 that actually has a 4cell system :) and thrust vectoring also. BH sells it as RTF for just 149 usd.. so you were right about the 4s setup :)
i am amazed at hot little some model makers know about the real thing, su27's cannot operate off a carrier, air brakes do not "hold back the aircraft" find out how an airbrake works and more importantly what it does it retards the flow of air over the wing's trailing edge (or down the middle of the line of thrust in the su27. also look up the russian aircraft carrier "admiral Kuznetsov" ther is no catapault, just an incline at the bow of the ship.
@rickrollification yea thats the one. loved playing that game. sims are the only flying games worth playing and that one was great for learning about aircraft and other military units. the graphics were unreal for the time as well.
The only thing I dont like about Sukhoi's Flankers and Terminator are that the back engines are not covered... thats all. But it bugs the crap outta me. I looks so much nicer if they where covered... its stupid and retarted I know...
Sending letter to Sukhoi industries right now... "looks > performence" :P
I would ignore them too, in fact it's what I do whenever i go flying.
I've had to wait 12 years until i got my own job to have a plane. If i'm flying, i revert myself to an absolute autistic state...and ignore almost everyone. So, i wouldn't blame him.
i agree with whoever below dave said you should try large planes! you really should get a large commercial heavy jet and and deck it out with flaps and spoilers and all the such, and see just how much of a difference it would make!
also, i think if you made an osprey (in the long run) ... that'd be the coolest vtol plane ever
That is just so cool! I would love to see you guys do a commercial jet...say, a Boeing 757 or an Airbus 380 with spoilers, slats and flaps. Have you guys thought of experimenting with ornithopters?
Sorry about this, but I don't kno where else to ask this. What is a good beginner plane that will be fast, but durable and simple at the same time (brushless prefered)
Great plane, it seems to have issues, but it handles nice. Thanks for pointing out the difference for Crick, creek, and Warsh. Being from "back East" I use crick. I have problems with trees too. They seem to jump out in front of the plane.
This rocked. You have totally got this plane dialed in.That was some thing when the front wheel went. But I know you can fix it. You all rock there. I can not wait to see more. God bless you all and your family's.Have a great Monday.
You guys are awesome and your videos are always fun to watch. Looking forward to see your video on the F-22 and your plans with the thrust vectoring. As always..... 5 stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way.... any of those guys with the negative comments I can say I don't see much good videos from them. Keep up the good work.
Hey thanks so much! Glad you like our stuff! Yes, I don't think much of the negative guys, to many cool positive guys to listen to here! Thanks for the support!
@RCSuperPowers oh and btw I'm trying to login to your forum but nothing:/ what should I do scott.. ?? already sent you a question about gyros which I think you won' thave an answer... :/
Hey cool! Check out Twitter (see side bar) and come out next time we are there! I put up a "tweet" as the kids say, 24 hours before we go out. Yes, come join us!
I have a question about c ratings on batteries, and amp ratings on motors/ speed controls. for example say you have a 20 amp motor + a 20 amp speed control hooked up to a 30 c battery, when you go full throttle will the battery pump out 30 amps of power and possibly fry your motor, or will the speed control just pull out the max amps it can pull? I would like to know this because i'm thinking of getting a 33 c battery that will work on any type of plane i put it on. would you recommend this?
I think it does have a gyro...I believe it was for the ailerons, but I could be wrong. Check out the first vid, he goes over it it the first little bit.
I had a gryo on the pitch but did not need it. I had it just in case but the plane is very stable even with the airbrake. Gyro not needed on this one.
Dont forget us yokels i england who watch you . i guess a creek is a stream , your international . dont forget us poor things here on the rock called england
lol i turn on the vid to see dave taping a gigantic brick into his plane :p he said the battery hole was small, but i didn't realise he meant this small :p
Yeah, thats what I did not like about this plane, the stock battery hole is small and only built for the stock battery! You have to make the space bigger if you buy the plane I would say.
for any aero dynamic parts, such as diffuser, spoiler, air brake, flaps, to take effect, A certain air speed have to be reached. In other words, you cannot really lauch an object with air brakes. Race cars launch mainly because the engine puts out maximum torque at a certain RPM, maintaining such RPM while dumping the clutch, not brake, well, u know the rest.
Right, the air brake has no effect when the aircraft is sitting still. They pop it open at airshows only as a visual cue that brakes are being applied, the actual braking is being done by the wheel brakes as they spool up the engine.
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magicmike1122 2 months ago
Would love some sukhoi easy build plans ... even though it's a bit hard to build that nose
archedperson 2 months ago
Russian Knights dave
EnterpriseXI 5 months ago
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TRUTH1HURTS7LIES 6 months ago
I'm from the east. Me and everyone I know I call it a crEEk,
liOVERLOADil 7 months ago
@liOVERLOADil me too
MCmiteyP 7 months ago
Why does part 2 have more views than part one?
Voreu 7 months ago
For us British that's a 'curb'
fossil98 8 months ago
20 poeple got suck in the ducted fan
kman1244 10 months ago
I HAVE A SU 27 MODEL , SO IT IS A FANTASTIC VIDEO
MrRichardfilms 10 months ago
I miss the show schedule that you had then
737Pilot122 1 year ago
You dump the clutch not the brake when you do a burnout
737Pilot122 1 year ago
Thumbs down if you up thumbs down the for thumbs of up.
N37BU6 1 year ago
Warsh. lol
kornweasel 1 year ago
Val says "You're wacked"
buint 1 year ago
how'd you get the airbrake servo in there?
neonbluen851 1 year ago
btw half-back could be a flanker
kealen8wysthoff 1 year ago
@arekmc
This aint no toy foo it's a high tec flyin machine
p.s i have a rc heli cant remember what model but its way bigger than the genisis
kealen8wysthoff 1 year ago
@kealen8wysthoff this aint no ghetto foo so getcho ass in schoo :P
KnuxMaster 11 months ago
is this the full-back or half-back?
i cant remember
kealen8wysthoff 1 year ago
Are yall filming this video in El Paso Texas???????????????
POPJack1717 1 year ago
might sound wierd.. but what kind of tape was that? if anyone still looks at this video.. i need some of that shit.. its soo strong.
Blinkerman909 1 year ago
@Blinkerman909 I get it at my local hobbystore, dunno what it's called, but there's nylon wires in it, that's what makes it so strong. greetings!
Boeing1995ER 1 year ago
@Blinkerman909
I have a few rolls that must be 20 years old by now... you're right, they are strong as hell. You can pull all you want and there's no stretch. However, they tear along their length quite easily. I don't know if that's from age or not.
N37BU6 1 year ago
How much is such toy ?
arekmc 1 year ago
i want one i want one'-' !
doglovermike 1 year ago
why is he talking about planes when all he knows is how to bend the wheels on a rc plane he wants to sell?
MuF123 1 year ago
they dont use the brakes they use the clutch and its called poping the clutch
MonstersInTheCloset1 1 year ago
I think that you should use a better camara video quality is the worst
SayamPatel356 1 year ago
there is another mig 29 by art tech with the same power system.. you will be glad to know that they came up with v2 that actually has a 4cell system :) and thrust vectoring also. BH sells it as RTF for just 149 usd.. so you were right about the 4s setup :)
pavcon 1 year ago
mummyyyyyy.... buy one buy one plzzzzzz oaoaoaao :((
tipforeveryone 1 year ago
is suitable for beginners?
I have until now only the Easy Glider flown but it says I'm still plenty!
and I was about to ask if he can take off and land on grass and?
TheLostCrown 1 year ago
jet is great...not this electro ***** ...
slovakiamanko 1 year ago
The su-27 and it's variants in real life have the same angel in the wheels thats why the rc jet is like that...
TonyFirelli 1 year ago
in the mid west its a creek as well
neighbor98 1 year ago
The airplane won't take off any faster than if you floored it with the airbrake retracted.
gsotodotcom 1 year ago
its not a skyrider lol
pieman12345678987654 1 year ago
ПОХОЖ ..
shturmovik21 1 year ago
You should make a carrier with a rubber band launcher and launch planes off the carrier IN the pond! Please respond dave!!
wastadkey 1 year ago
what a looser
Wawaweewaj 1 year ago
i was there to see that flying it was amazazing
applejews6497 1 year ago
Is the air brake standard or custom?
poppingcherries1 2 years ago
Custom
airsoftfreek69 1 year ago
Thank god you piloting toy planes ahahahahahah
by the way.. couldnt it back up the landing gear? i find it sucks when its deployed all the time
LoriusCy 2 years ago
sick. i enjoy ur vids :)
blazing1hound 2 years ago
жалко шасси не убирается)
TaTaPuH555 2 years ago
i am amazed at hot little some model makers know about the real thing, su27's cannot operate off a carrier, air brakes do not "hold back the aircraft" find out how an airbrake works and more importantly what it does it retards the flow of air over the wing's trailing edge (or down the middle of the line of thrust in the su27. also look up the russian aircraft carrier "admiral Kuznetsov" ther is no catapault, just an incline at the bow of the ship.
rickrollification 2 years ago 2
i had a simulater that had the kuznetsov in it as well as most modern combat aircraft. cant remember wat it was called but it was a mad game.
biggestsubiefan98 2 years ago
@biggestsubiefan98 "Lock On-Modern Air Combat" by any chance...
rickrollification 1 year ago
@rickrollification yea thats the one. loved playing that game. sims are the only flying games worth playing and that one was great for learning about aircraft and other military units. the graphics were unreal for the time as well.
biggestsubiefan98 1 year ago
4:27 RC Su-27 taxing and RC SKYRIDER routine!
icars98 2 years ago
пендосы жгуть
MultiWingman 2 years ago 6
Love the Russian Knights paint scheme.
spectre1209 2 years ago
respect !
spbtrader 2 years ago
LOL , you can buy the real one here : .controller. com/listings/aircraft-for-sale/SUKHOI-SU-27/1990-SUKHOI-SU-27/1160633.htm
Hampen1969 2 years ago
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Hampen1969 2 years ago
well that was a hard landing
cybercow222 2 years ago
the real su 27 flankers weels are the same to.
and it is f-35 lightning not j-35 the j is in jsf
alkidadestroyur 2 years ago
its not an f-35 its a j-35 C
BurnoutParidiseFan 2 years ago
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regztigershark 2 years ago
someone of the kids said that someboby is an bastard at 2:05 ?????
KedmenecMartin 2 years ago
i believe he said "faster"
357infusion 2 years ago
Watch out for the warsh!!
LOL!!
nishbrown 2 years ago
ilivforfun,
aircraft carriers use a catapult to take off, not a break, then accelerate method!
swagn 2 years ago
The SU-33 does that...
jklv 2 years ago
ive heard that they do the break and then accelerate to take off faster thing on mainly aircraft carriers
ILivForFun 2 years ago
why should he?
13megaprime 2 years ago 8
this is the plane in real life that in the 90's the plane had a mid air collision and landed on one wing
bugsbunny159 2 years ago
I believe your talking about a F-15 not an Su-27.
Mav1843 2 years ago
yh i never took no notce a the title looks abit like it cuz of the airbrake lol
bugsbunny159 2 years ago
The only thing I dont like about Sukhoi's Flankers and Terminator are that the back engines are not covered... thats all. But it bugs the crap outta me. I looks so much nicer if they where covered... its stupid and retarted I know...
Sending letter to Sukhoi industries right now... "looks > performence" :P
NewbeFeaster 2 years ago
whos kids lol ther rambleing on and they need not to be in the vids any more
marybob321 2 years ago
High Performance take off. Hold the breaks go full power release breaks!
jonny2387 2 years ago
The paintjob is calleb the russian knights i think!
Dgl44 2 years ago 2
i supose i have a warsh in my back yard
aircannonmaster 2 years ago
Why does Val ALWAYS do that surprised "wough!"-Sound, when a plane takes off?
noobhunter3000 2 years ago
I would ignore them too, in fact it's what I do whenever i go flying.
I've had to wait 12 years until i got my own job to have a plane. If i'm flying, i revert myself to an absolute autistic state...and ignore almost everyone. So, i wouldn't blame him.
activiafibras 2 years ago
me to you need to concentrate when you fly otherwise it would be like
what did you say
nothing but your pplane just crached
oohhhh *******
that happend to me once
luuk341 2 years ago
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This guys a dick, totally ignores the kids
bearkillr 2 years ago
I'm gonna try that airbrake trick in LockOn--see how the Su-27 responds to that.
DiGiTaLdAzEDM 2 years ago
su-27 has super aerodynamics.
djkadirtube 2 years ago 13
what did he say at 0:18 ??
samanthms123 2 years ago
that old dude knows his shit ha.......
hitmanhornster 2 years ago
Everytime you say "I think we can get just one more flight out of it" Your always right!
moviesunrated 2 years ago
Leave it to find a tree in the general vacinity of his current flying space. :P
You encounter a Large Tree.
[_] Set it on fire
[_] Move around it
[X] Attack it
[_] Flee
notveryawesome 2 years ago
Hahah, nice. My thoughts exactly.
TheMHeli 2 years ago
Did I really forget to put the "Dave" in? Wow.
-1 internets
notveryawesome 2 years ago
lol at 3:44
kinohitt 2 years ago
hey, thanks for this idea. i'll try it in my F-15
oh, by the way, nice crosswind landing at 3:40-3:48. those are not easy.
planemaniac1 2 years ago
TRY BRAKING WITHOUT THE GYRO??...
espejo81 2 years ago
at first im thinking "how a Su-27 get in American Airspace without getting detected?" cause it looks like the real think in the air
Deidara9052 2 years ago
in the south it's a creek
GandolfDaGray 2 years ago
same in the midwest aka Missouri
legendzerograv 2 years ago
It looks just like the real thing in the air
GeorgeC2009 2 years ago 3
i agree with whoever below dave said you should try large planes! you really should get a large commercial heavy jet and and deck it out with flaps and spoilers and all the such, and see just how much of a difference it would make!
also, i think if you made an osprey (in the long run) ... that'd be the coolest vtol plane ever
120ftDiveBombers 2 years ago
It's just you
HangarX1 2 years ago 2
In the northeast we call it a creak....
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
how about you guys build a flying bicycle or motorcycle
haha
lol..
ilhamman 2 years ago
That is just so cool! I would love to see you guys do a commercial jet...say, a Boeing 757 or an Airbus 380 with spoilers, slats and flaps. Have you guys thought of experimenting with ornithopters?
GooseGrl172 2 years ago
damn i want this so bad. As a second plane, first jet, llooks epic, seems easy to fly. But i dont have acess to a runway... only a grass field :(
frederic470 2 years ago
Looks like it's flipping you off :).
Nice plane too
Mikemc 2 years ago
ausome
steve0971 2 years ago
dave, awesome video! i love the air brake idea. it works great! when you lowered the back wheels, it helped a lot!
sdvman10 2 years ago
This is my favorite video!
atvmaster281 2 years ago
Im from the east and i have never heard anyone call a creek a crick.
93shomtx 2 years ago
its the accent
sdvman10 2 years ago
Sorry about this, but I don't kno where else to ask this. What is a good beginner plane that will be fast, but durable and simple at the same time (brushless prefered)
VXLBeast 2 years ago
that sounds nice
xboxlivegstar66 2 years ago
You guys rock and are crazy! Can I come work for you?
pdiddy21154 2 years ago
Great plane, it seems to have issues, but it handles nice. Thanks for pointing out the difference for Crick, creek, and Warsh. Being from "back East" I use crick. I have problems with trees too. They seem to jump out in front of the plane.
GRS15720 2 years ago
Did you try the air brake without gyro help?
I wanted to know if the nose gets pushed down when air brake is open?
Great vid's btw :-)
CanberraRC 2 years ago
haha
cool
MEGAS1LORD1DEVIN 2 years ago
Easy mod to lower the back wheels ;)
That the makers didnt came up with that :o:o
musbijthond 2 years ago
After moving from Detroit to Tacoma, WA. it took me about 15 years to stop saying "warsh". ;)
TheGospelGuitarist 2 years ago
The su27 doesnt seem to take off because the nose is angled down for pithe respons to be quik and affective
spitfireMK22 2 years ago
Nice video Ive beenout of rc for too long and need to break into electric flight with 2.4 ghz I want see the f22 cause they are sweet
brihoo2k 2 years ago
Congrats Dave and Val you guys now have been in Youtube for two full years!
~DLPlanes
DLPlanes 2 years ago
is it a duct fan
mongoslade2110 2 years ago
Nice Flying Dave
kennek97 2 years ago
thats offensive "crick" NJ ftw
bluejay115x 2 years ago
So what's a 'Crick' for us UK guys? Perhaps it would be a 'drainage ditch'?
FrostbiteUK 2 years ago
Can't wait for the next vid! Every time you say 'just one more flight,' bad things tend to happen lol.
M0t0rBreath89 2 years ago
I'm not even into RC planes... but this is wicked!
saelaird 2 years ago
i always watch your vids,great stuff to watch and learn, i love the planes, i am into helis myself and enjoyed the vids you have done on them!
dangerousprimate 2 years ago
when r u goin 2 show d F-35 vtol?
syakir96 2 years ago
This rocked. You have totally got this plane dialed in.That was some thing when the front wheel went. But I know you can fix it. You all rock there. I can not wait to see more. God bless you all and your family's.Have a great Monday.
JoeFielding72 2 years ago
You guys are awesome and your videos are always fun to watch. Looking forward to see your video on the F-22 and your plans with the thrust vectoring. As always..... 5 stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way.... any of those guys with the negative comments I can say I don't see much good videos from them. Keep up the good work.
Rokit1man 2 years ago
Hey thanks so much! Glad you like our stuff! Yes, I don't think much of the negative guys, to many cool positive guys to listen to here! Thanks for the support!
Dave
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
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@RCSuperPowers you won't believe this.. but check out BH.. this mig is comming with 4S now and a new power system AND thrust vectoring...
pavcon 1 year ago
@RCSuperPowers oh and btw I'm trying to login to your forum but nothing:/ what should I do scott.. ?? already sent you a question about gyros which I think you won' thave an answer... :/
pavcon 1 year ago
WOW! Nice Flying.!! And Reall cool F-22 Raptor
i can`t wait till newt weeks video. ~daniel
DLPlanes 2 years ago
Hey cool, thanks guys!
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
shit ur in pasidena i live next to rose bowl and i would have come over to watch next time tell me
ncpride18 2 years ago
Hey cool! Check out Twitter (see side bar) and come out next time we are there! I put up a "tweet" as the kids say, 24 hours before we go out. Yes, come join us!
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
hey Dave i have a question about the f-4e ducted fan does it come with the servo rods?
and i have a Taurus RC plane that's awesome but it need a radio can u please recommend one.
thank you and god bless you and your family . :-)
holdkid 2 years ago
Yes, servo rods included.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
dave wat part of California do u live in?
lukey546 2 years ago
We are in the Pasadena area.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
Ah, you found the same solution I did to this model not wanting to come off the ground. The upward angle of attack helps so much!
kenrom 2 years ago
how do i create one
thojyout23 2 years ago
I have a question about c ratings on batteries, and amp ratings on motors/ speed controls. for example say you have a 20 amp motor + a 20 amp speed control hooked up to a 30 c battery, when you go full throttle will the battery pump out 30 amps of power and possibly fry your motor, or will the speed control just pull out the max amps it can pull? I would like to know this because i'm thinking of getting a 33 c battery that will work on any type of plane i put it on. would you recommend this?
aforce08 2 years ago
Hey check out some of our videos a couple weeks ago. We talked about just this! Its titled "Power Systems" or something like that.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
Thanks, I found the info very helpful. good luck on your next video.
aforce08 2 years ago
I can't wait for next week's vid!
insecure53 2 years ago
i have a walmart jacket, as well!
WACAcameraman 2 years ago
Ha! And why not! You are just going to get soup all over the front of it so why waste your money on a good jacket!?
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
Love it!
davidsimsjr55 2 years ago
HEY!!!! midwest guys say creek or crick NOT WARSH. lol
mxf7010g8k 2 years ago
does it have gyros, ? is it much worse and harder to fly without?
leviterande 2 years ago
I think it does have a gyro...I believe it was for the ailerons, but I could be wrong. Check out the first vid, he goes over it it the first little bit.
jman5630 2 years ago
I had a gryo on the pitch but did not need it. I had it just in case but the plane is very stable even with the airbrake. Gyro not needed on this one.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
hi Buddy
Dont forget us yokels i england who watch you . i guess a creek is a stream , your international . dont forget us poor things here on the rock called england
keith
SINCLAIRRESEARCH 2 years ago
Ha! I know you guys say a bunch of things funny out there! Even more than the guys in Kentucky and Australia!
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
yeh us Kentucky guys sure say the dumbest things sometimes lol But what a good bunch of people out here tho.
Skurgefaust 2 years ago
great show!!! thx
DrGonzoxx79 2 years ago
lol i turn on the vid to see dave taping a gigantic brick into his plane :p he said the battery hole was small, but i didn't realise he meant this small :p
natman48 2 years ago
Yeah, thats what I did not like about this plane, the stock battery hole is small and only built for the stock battery! You have to make the space bigger if you buy the plane I would say.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
we say spring lol
prodamerican 2 years ago
I don't know why I love ducted fans when I haven't flown a plane at all yet, but I do.
Craydon 2 years ago
They are very cool looking for sure! Little less forgiving cause you have to keep them moving compared to a prop plane.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
2:55 ... What?
YupHio 2 years ago
they only hold the brakes so they can lite the afterburners.
fspacerc1 2 years ago
for any aero dynamic parts, such as diffuser, spoiler, air brake, flaps, to take effect, A certain air speed have to be reached. In other words, you cannot really lauch an object with air brakes. Race cars launch mainly because the engine puts out maximum torque at a certain RPM, maintaining such RPM while dumping the clutch, not brake, well, u know the rest.
skenehc 2 years ago
Right, the air brake has no effect when the aircraft is sitting still. They pop it open at airshows only as a visual cue that brakes are being applied, the actual braking is being done by the wheel brakes as they spool up the engine.
dogsbd 2 years ago
warsh? in colorado we say snowboarding season is over
personblader 2 years ago
Ha!
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
nice vid dave when are you doing the stuff on the multiplex blizzard? looks like a kool plane
FEARLFULL1 2 years ago
Hey thanks! That one will be in a while, maybe a couple months or so. We want to do some v-tail tests on it.
RCSuperPowers 2 years ago
"Did I hit a tree?"
Weeeeel, I don't know, Dave. Let's see what Greenpeace has to say about it, eh?
MartySchrader 2 years ago
ahhhh i cant wait till next saturday!!! that thrust vectoring f22 looks amazing!
8rassm0nkey 2 years ago
in new jersey (east coast) we also say creek. your thinking of southeast. they say crick
horizonflyer9 2 years ago
I live in the southeast and have never heard anyone use crick. We also say creek.
XxJoshbxX 2 years ago
Nice Vid, it works great! But ONE thing i didnt like! "WARSH"?!?! None of us say warsh, ive never heard that! We call em Creeks, Streams, ect. >:(
BUT NICE VID OVER ALL!
Dommiepell 2 years ago
isn't that a su 37? not 27?
although i could be mistaken......
KNDoperative 2 years ago
it is a SU-27. The SU-37 has canards. but besides for that i dont know of any other differences visually. they look almost exactly the same.
8rassm0nkey 2 years ago
ooohhh! right. my bad-i missed that- you're right,though- the 37 has canards...
KNDoperative 2 years ago