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  • 1:32 Of course they have a black guy playing a wringwraith.

  • @AntiTroll101 not funny

  • Im called Evil Roda-Stein in a game i play, so everyone started to call me Evil. So now i put in WitchKing in my name as he is one of my favourite villains. Next time me and my gaming friends meet im dressing up as the Witch King with my own flair on the costume. :)

  • Peter Jackson is such a size queen. XD

  • If this was a Tarantino film, the witch king would have killed that stupid farm bitch...not before he had ripped her ears off with a dull razor

  • @mrksuckerberg that's why he writes his own movies lol Tolkien would have flipped in his grave if Tarantino directed LOTR

  • @mrksuckerberg Eowyn, farm bitch? More like badass shield-maiden.

  • too small :P

  • I think it was actually good that it was this large... not because it made Eowyn afraid of IT, but because she was terrified that someone, ANYONE, could wield such a massive weapon of utter destruction. It was, in a simple way, a very good way of showing off the Witch King's tremendous power and ability/desire to evoke fear in others.

  • @PhoenixCrystalHatter right on dude

  • Typical PJ thinking: pander instead of entertain. Why use subtelty when you can employ the most obvious of visual aids in that given situation...something large and spiky. This illustrates perfeclty what an unimaginative and lazy director PJ is. He has absolutely no head for drama. Eowyn isn't afraid of the ridiculously large mace. She's afraid because she's facing the Lord of the Nazgul, a poweful force of darkness. Guess PJ thought the audience was too stupid to pick up on that.

  • @donxavier10 I think that his intention WAS to make it entertainment. And while in the book it is great to give the Witch King a great atmosphere of fear and explain his power to drive people insane with fear, in film you can't show that as easily. They made him as terrorfing as possible and used the giant mace as a visual message of his termendous power. It is difficult in a visual mediam to have an atmosphere of tenstion and fear in the middle of the day etc

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  • Molag Bal used to let me use his mace like that, but then i took an arrow in the knee

  • @tetrisclock Beat me to it!

  • Mace of Molag Bal.

  • Epic FLAIL!

  • When I saw the movie, I could have sworn that that flail broke Éowyn's arm.

    Having seen this snippet, I'm surprised it didn't break the Witch-King's, too.

  • The Witch-King laughs in the face of impracticality.

  • 1:40 that should have been in the movie

  • That is a flail/morning star, not a mace.

  • "... you see the look on Eowyn's face when she sees it - she's terrified!"

    And thus the scene fails. Falling from an epic battle between a brave shield maiden and a wraith, to a ridiculous farce.

  • Witch king is good enough to have a mini series dedicated to the wars in the north at angmar

  • Its a shame none of the villains in the movie get much character screen-time save for the very important ones. It really gives much more of an epic saga encompassing the entire War of the Ring period.

  • 1:29 - witch king sighing, saying "Oh God" exasperatedly = funniest thing ever :)

  • That explains why we never saw the Witch King recover the thing from a swing. I always wondered about that. Seems like Peter Jackson and Blizzard Entertainment submit to the same line of thinking: If it's an epic weapon or armor it must be stupidly huge and be covered in spikes. Shit! I can totally see the Witch King using the Wild Hammer! It actually fits him quite well. Massive spiky beast of a 2 handed mace. Even the aesthetics fit him. Not a surprise LotRs has influenced Warcraft.

  • @EvilCleric If anyone were to wield the Wild Hammer, it'd be Melkor or Morgoth. He had his own hammer called Grond, the Hammer of the Underworld.

  • @SupaChard89 Which conveinantly was the name of the huge ass ram the forces of Mordor used to destroy the gates of Minas-Tirith

  • @EvilCleric That's not convenience, that's Sauron paying tribute to his master.

  • @SupaChard89 That'll do it. I know there are some people that wondered if the hammer had been used as a base to construct the ram. Sounds interesting but then again we don't know how big the mace was.

  • I didn't notice it was so big because i didn't see it. If they had shown a different camera angle maybe i could have noticed how big it was

  • Hey look! It's reverse Darth Vader. 1:31 White guys voice but a black dude playing the person.

  • large?, you guys call that large

  • 1:25

    "...oh god."

  • hey! who took links morning star?!

  • Holyshit the witch king is black!?

  • @themooseman780 they had to get a huge maori guy to play him.

  • nice the mace looks awesome and it made it seem like a good foe to fight

  • you hid the mace underneath your coat ?? i hope the fuck you would hide that face.

  • Witchking: 'oh god' 1:28

    Poor guy xD

  • Melkor's mace was so large and heavy he made hills and valleys with it when he hit the ground so this isn't very far fetched in a fantasy fairy tale.

  • That mace was the source of brown pants throughout Middle-earth.

  • Yup, nazgul break the rules of momentum physics. Next time, make sure you bring Elrond to the battle with you. He can dodge bullets, punch through reinforced concrete, and turn people into clones of himself with two fingers. 

  • I think it works absolutly perfectly and doesn't break the reality at all, all it does is show how damn strong the nazgul is. And the way he can swing it around shows that its not impractical for him either. if people should be criticizing anything it should be that Eoywin was able to dodge that thing and only have her arm broken from that.

  • It's called an EPIC FLAIL! >:D

  • Whenever I watch the Special Features I can't help but think how cool it would have been to have worked on those movies.

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  • Who but Peter Jackson could do something like that and make it work?

  • "either way, i ended up calling it damned heavy cuz... it was damned heavy."

  • If that thing just hits Sauron's freaking head, I think Sauron would no longer BE the Lord of the Rings, but it would be the Witch-King. Because damn, this mace compared to the one of Sauron is amazing. Sauron's mace would simply grow a pussy and run off before he would try to attack the Witch King.

  • OOHHH, what a HEAVY Ringwraith-Weaponry. You can slaughterd the whole wall of an old house!

  • When you see illustrations of Morgoth and Sauron and realise how much bigger they were than men/elves, this isn't surprising at all really :)

  • @ifidiebeforeiwake909 The Nazgul arent supposed to be much larger than normal men from what i understand. The huge fucking flail is believable as the Witch-King isnt fully understood.

  • 1:38 shows how CGI can save almost any fail

  • Epic flail.

  • @WatermelonRat Icy what you did there.

  • 1:21

    best facial hair EVER.

  • 2:16 "COME AT ME SIS!"

  • BEHOLD THE MACE WEIGHING A FULL GODDAMN TON!

  • i didnt even notice it was so huge i was too busy having a good time watching the movie

  • One thing I can say.....

    that mace makes it dang obvious how Eowyn got her arm broken. No fan could argue that the choreography was weak there; that thing was so massive it just didn't matter. :D

  • lmao you look at that think and shes terrified

    bet she was ;)

  • how can they cover the actor face to be damned black like that ...I need that suit

  • yeah that flail was the deal breaker for the witch king for me... I lol'd quite hard in the theater.

  • witch king=best villain ever

  • @LivingIn1969 TOTALLY, hands down.

  • @LivingIn1969 witch-king and sauron and the nazgul ren ftw

  • If you notice at 1:54 there is indeed some slack in the chain as the dude below it, off camera, is lifting it up

  • 'almost flipped him over' yeah sure :L

    thats SO how it went down -.-

  • It sound's like they are talking about the results after the use of a P****Pump!! XD

  • I think I have to watch the making of's again...

  • Not by far the most ridiculous thing they did with combat situations in the movie. Though most of the stupidities can be explained away with orcs being damned stupid.

  • Are they compensating for something?

  • large ...really ? ¬¬ ..... nerds

  • That guy needs to make more films... Pronto. It's a shame that we've only got King Kong from him after this trilogy. At least the Hobbit is coming, but he needs to tell more tales with all-night movies.

  • @bomimo1 Actually, he directed and produced The Lovely Bones last year!

  • @bomimo1 District 9.

  • It's a flail.

  • I remember in the theatre, my reaction was definitely like "hly sht that thing's freakin huge!" but in a good, suspenseful, truly-scared-for-Eowyn kind of way. now that I think about it, though it is kind of silly!

  • Pffft. It wasn't ridiculously large at all. Can you imagine how bad it would have looked if the frickin' Witch King of Angmar had had a tiny little pathetic mace?

  • Eowyn was terrified cuz it was ridiculously large co-.. I mean mace.

  • This video shows the arrogance of PJ. Someone refers to it as "Peter Jackson's story telling." It's Tolkein's story telling.  Peter just interpreted it.

  • @fjccommish How is it "PJ's arrogance" if it's *SOMEONE* else who refers to it as "Peter Jackson's storytelling"???

    Incidentally, it *IS* Peter Jackson's storyTELLING. It's Tolkien's story, but Jackson, being the director and all, is the one TELLING the story.

  • @wibiqu I thought about your reply.  You're right about Peter telling Tolkein's story.

  • the scene at 1:51 makes it look smaller actually, because as the camera goes down it only looks like the size of a basketball compared to his hand which is shown like a second before

  • Actually I think morning stars have chains, maces are one solid piece.

  • @WhiteTiger950

    A morning star simply has a ball end with spikes:) This is more along the lines of a flail to be technical...but it's not important, "damned heavy" works just as well.

  • 1:25 morning star's have no chains...

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  • oh man, this really made me laugh. Now I won't be able to look at that scene the same way again. Youtube is certainly making the movies seem very diffrent. For example, Legolas' line in the two towers about where the Urks are headed, always makes me laugh now, even though it was meant to be totally serious. Yep, youtube changes everything.

  • All I remember about that part of the movie is being scared shitless for Eowyn.

  • Lawrence Makoare as the witchking was brilliant...

  • @FreJasMic

    And Lawrence Makoare as Gothmog was brilliant...

  • 1:50 -

    That's what she said

  • witch king was the scariest character of lotr

  • they enlarged it because Eowyn likes it big

  • man. if only the witch king was real. Id hang out and fly on his dragon to a black metal concert xD

  • Funny around 1:24, when he was majestically holding the mace, the he immediately slumped his shoulders. LOL

  • I think Lawrence is really handsome, and he plays all of his parts perfectly. :) What a trooper.

  • 1:41-1:43XD

  • its a flail cause you flail it around a mace is just a version of a hammer that you smash with, so the little round spiked ball at the end of a stick = morning star, flail has the chain on it

  • "Some people call it a mace. I call it damned heavy"

    Well I call it damned terrifying!

  • Peter Jackson is a size queen.

  • You have to consider that the Witch-King is damn tall. Ans it works with the Witch-King. Just like Sauron has the über-large mace, at the beggining of TFoTR.

  • When someone sees that, they don't go "That's just huge and impractical," they think, "Oh Jesus Fuck, that's going to whack me into a strato-cumulus cloud, isn't it?"

  • Maybe the witch king has issues with his penis size. You know what they say about men and big swords.

  • There's flail, there's heavy flail adn then there's this thing, likely comperable to swinging around Sauron's torso with collosal nails in it.

    It would explain what happened to Sauron's remains, The Witch King's smelted the stuff down and used it to bitch-slap damn near all of Rohan.

  • @darkwartexx its like a wreking ball

  • "this thing is getting huge." thats wat she said.

  • lmfao when the flail handle go caught in Jackson's shirt

  • That's not a mace, that's a flail.

  • @malkrow21

    I think he meant mace as in the Flail's head, because it is massive

  • the weapon fits the witch king

    it just so overwelmingly awesome

    and the witch king himself is also taller than most of the persons on that battlefield so a big weapon fits

    bdw just my opinion but the witch king owns sauron big times when looking at appereance

  • "don't you think the head is a little excessive?" - that's what she said

  • If its the Witch-King, it has to be freaking huge and intimidating. A witch-king will settle for nothing less, i reckon. XD

  • lol now I remember Sauron's mace. So elegant and small... yet it takes out ten guys with a single swing xD

  • @EdikShepherd thats partly down to the fact that he's using magic along with the weapon itself

  • @mrbreckles I know, I was just saying

  • Its not a mace...

  • Is the mace in the books too. Or just the movies? If so it was a good idea for an addition, Witch King wouldnt be scary at all with just a sword........"NO LIVING MAN CAN KILL ME" "BUT YOU DONT HAVE A GIANT MACE" "WELL, WELL NOONE CAN KILL ME ANYWAY. IM THE WITCH KING." 'stab at back by Merry' hehehee

  • Haha, i didn't even think about it... He seemed capable enough to lift it in the movie!

  • "You don't think it's a little to big do you?"

    "Actually I was going to say it's about 50% to small.."

    "On no, please" *facepalm*

    "Some people call it a mace, I just called it 'dammned heavy'" LOL

    Me likes! xD

  • listen Peter's voice, is the same of Steve Harris one XDDD

  • lawrence as the witch king and Lurtz. such a great actor :)

  • LOLOLOL 1:02

  • its not a mace its a flail

  • @StationaryHawk, agreed, Aragorn got a 5 foot long sword, so why shouldn't the Witch King have an enormous mace? Besides they had to try and capture with visuals the sort of power the Witch King has over people, ridiculously large weapons is one way to do that.

  • if going against the witch king doesnt make you shit yourself seeing that mace sure will

  • Lol at Lawrence, 'I ended up calling it damned heavy', XD.

  • @skyazurehardy I DON'T REMEMBER WRITING THAT, GOOD LUCK!! :D :D

  • Some people call it a mace, some people call it a morning star, I ended up calling it damn heavy.... Epic!

  • the other thing that was cool is that the actual LOOK of the mace other than the size was PERFECT like you see it and you KNOW it belongs to the Witch King and nobody else.

  • 1:25 the witch kings sighs "Oh God" so funny. it was a perfect weapon for him

  • I need to get me one of those.

  • I hate to be "that guy" but it's a flail, not a mace or a morning star.

  • Nothing wrong with the size, it worked fine in the movie, the Witch King isn't just a guy in a mask...

  • 1:41

    If the Witch-King actually di that in the movie that would have been hilarious!

  • @SkyAzureHardy

    No, it's not your own work and if you try to continue it people will look at what you write as nothing more than "fan fiction."

    Read other books too, take in everything you like and use it as inspiration to ultimately come up with your own work. I'm guessing you're in your teens, at that age you become so impressed with things to the point you want to reproduce them, but as you get just a little older the urge to create will outweigh the urge to mimick.

  • @JoF00l

    okay to get things straight, I wasn't going to copy his work I was going to use some of the characters.... -twitch slightly- but now I'm going to be a games designer and help make more pokemon or just draw monsters for DQM(Dragon Quest Monsters)

  • Witch King SMASH!

  • It fit the Witch King. He is basically a God of sorts. A god lesser or greater would wield such a weapon since they are completely unhindered by the material plane and therefore physical limitations. Of course I also could have just said....It is F#$%&*g awesome!!!...Hehehe

  • it was great. there's one thing running through every audience member's mind:

    "OH SH-!!!!"

  • I remember seeing this at the cinema and being wowed.

  • thats a good weapon

  • 1:28

    lol :D

  • Yeah it's technically a morning star. A good example of a mace is the weapon Sauron wielded in the intro to the first movie. It's a single, solid piece with no chain, as opposed to the Witch King's flail.

  • I think it was unnormal and awesome in the movie, made it have some more fantasy spirit

  • Dang... I love that thing. <3

    Long live the Witch-King!

  • darnut, he wasn't really, a guy had to lift it up for him from below. Then swinging it is easy.

    too true StationaryHawk too true!

  • I was talking about the "real" Witch King. Tolkien said he had a rather big mace!

  • ah! then yes I agree.

  • "I ended up calling it 'damned heavy'..." :D

  • @HayleToTheHammer yeah it was my friend had a replica of it and she called it that

  • I still wonder how the Witch King was strong enough to wield that HUGE mace...

  • I remember watching the movies for the first time, and I was like 'Daaayum!'

    I was pretty scared for Eowyn, lol.

  • its not a mace its not a morning star it was damn heavey

  • it's called a flail

  • i was repeating what the guy said knights called them morning stars in lord of the rings they called it a mace

  • yeah i know i just said that so you know =D

  • i had completely forgot about it being called a flail until i watched deadliest warrior

  • I didn't even notice that it was overly large. I mean... it's the Witch-King. What good would he be if he didn't have a weapon that was so ridiculous only he could pull it off?

    I thought it was awesome.

  • @StationaryHawk I thought the witch king himself was pretty damn tall to begin with, hes a ghost with no body after all, he could be as big as they want him to be

  • yeah the witch king got fucked over by this movie. barely did a thing. same for gimi, reduced to nothing but comic relief while legalos gets all the glory. books were better

  • True but you probably have to consider that they were tring to fit an entire book into a movie that is respectively 3 hours long. I do agree that Legolas got to much of the glory and that more emphasis should have been placed on the witch king and gimli. However a lot of scenes with gimli and the witch king were deleted/removed. Thats why I enjoy watching the movies with the deleted scenes.

  • @JustThink00 @JustThink00 The books were FAR better. Never understood why some people make a movie about a book only to eviscerate the story that inspired them to make the book in the first place. I realize the challenges of adapting a book to a film but many of PJ's changes to the story made no sense. Gandalf can't figure how to get into Moria, even though he is this wise and learned wizard, but Frodo comes up with the answer with seeming ease.