Vivaldi - "Concerto Funebre" in B Flat Major RV579

[Modoantiquo]

È difficile riuscire a non capire un cazzo di Vivaldi fino a questi livelli. Ma sembra che sia possibile.

Federico Maria Sardelli.

[naratchunzes1]

I would like to have this concerto performed at my burial service so that my soul feel happy

[Arjunai]

Beautiful..

[CanisNigrum]

woooww es hermoso, y algo alegre para se un concierto funebre

[ale92LP]

E' bellissima l'interpretazione di Vivaldi della morte, soprattutto è lontana da quell'alone di oscurità e forse angoscia che pervade quasi ogni altra "Musica per Funerale" che io abbia ascoltato... Ho apprezzato molto la sensazione di leggerezza e di positività trasmessa da questo brano, fantastico davvero!!!

[KamiwanMUFFINS]

A beautiful piece of music! I love how it is happy...

[Mislavce]

Does anyone know what is viola all'inglese actually? Is it a kind of viola da gamba or something like that? Number of instruments used in Baroque Era fascinates me, and all those names of them even more.

[HARMONICO101]

We don't know 100% what they are. Musicologists seem to think that they are viols or variations of such.

[hardcub02]

@Mislavce Yes, the "Viola all'inglese (English viola)" has 6 strings and is a "Viola da gamba (leg-viola: to be played holding it like a bass not like a violin)", whereas the "Viola Francese (French viola)" has 7 strings. The English one was mostly used for study purposes. The French one was mostly used for playing in concerts ;o)

[hardcub02]

@Mislavce Viola all'inglese (=english-viola) was like a smaller cello, with six strings used mostly for study purposes. In those times the strings family was not completely stabilzed, so there were a lot of different variations specialy on the bass section of the orchestra. Some composer also wrote music searching special effects, like J.S Bach in the 3rd Brandenbourg Concert.

[festershred]

@Mislavce look up daniel fradkin

[InbictaProductionzZ]

@Mislavce Usually, it is commonly accepted that the viola al'inglese is one of the names of the viola da gamba, even though some musicologists disagree. in modern interpretation of baroque music, the viola al'inglese is always played as a viola da gamba

[tommyIglesias]

Harmonico101 bring us the most delightfull baroque apoteosis!

thank you very much!

greetings from Argentina

[umbrellano]

This has the potential to be a highly dramatic piece, but Vivaldi dissolved the thirty seconds tension and turned this into a sweet afternoon treat. Even the final moment of self-doubt melted into a carefree fugue meant as a celebration.

[HARMONICO101]

That's what I think makes this such a brilliant work. It's perfectly bittersweet.

[bubblykings]

A Funeral Concerto? Cool! I like how Vivaldi portrayed death...

It probably makes a lot of people feel less afraid of dying and a lot better about death in general. lol

[Alicia7777777]

Thank you for sharing. 5*

[lewars1912]

@bubblykings I agree. It's cheered me up no end.

[peres010492]

Isn't this in B flat?

[HARMONICO101]

Oh yeah, sorry I'll fix that.

[Harmonieuniverselle]

Beautiful concerto. But all the problem is, knowing that it is a funeral concerto, at wich tempo the allegro should be played!

Anyway, beautiful interpretation too.

[HARMONICO101]

I think the nature of this piece is quite joyful, looking at death not as the end, but the beginning, so I don't think it should be depressingly slow.

[Harmonieuniverselle]

I don't "totally" agree with you. Sure, Vivaldi belived that death is a beginning of a new life, he was priest, but the right interpretation, i think, is to play only the last mvt with a little fast tempo to consolate the listeners an leave in their mind a nice feeling. Vivaldi started this concerto with a very meloncolic mvt like for the religious works, the spirit of the concerto is tristess and meditation...

[HARMONICO101]

I personally don't think the first movement is melancholic. I think it is more serene and meditative than anything.

[Harmonieuniverselle]

...The Savall's version is in that spirit. All the problem is with the "poco" of the 2nd mvt!

[HARMONICO101]

Yes, but recall that it says "allegro" before the poco! I think if the second movement is too slow, than it doesn't seem different enough from the first movement and the intro of the third movement and makes the concerto sound dry and dull as a whole. Vivaldi is the last composer on earth who's music should put people to sleep.

[Harmonieuniverselle]

Recall that it says "Concerto Funebre" too.

Anyway, You're absolutely right. I just didn't say that it should be "too" slow, but not too fast either, like it is in this interpretation. The Savall's version is in the right middle wich makes of the Adagio an introduction of the final wich is the real fast and allegro mvt of the concerto. Do you have it? If not, i'll upload it for you.

[HARMONICO101]

Just becuase it says "funeral concerto" doesn't mean it should be played more slowly generally. The program notes of the disc this came from, go into great detail on how the music of the secular and religious in Italian music are almost exactly the same.

[Harmonieuniverselle]

A "poco allegro" of a funeral concerto should not be played like a "poco allegro" of an ordinary one.

[HARMONICO101]

Well, I think that if the allegro poco is any slower, than it is nothing more than andante. I think what I like best about the tempo of that movement is the walking feeling.

I would like to here Savall's performance. I liked some of the Vivaldi that he has done.

[darkjenova]

It's wonderful, thank you for sharing!

[Kiddfan777]

I am now in Paradise!!!!

[AytidaRed]

whats a salmoe?

[HARMONICO101]

Early clarinet.

[AytidaRed]

thanks

[lucio271]

Oh yeah! sorry dear!

[HARMONICO101]

No problem!

[lucio271]

Who are the performers please?

[HARMONICO101]

Please read the description thanks! :)