double stokes roll as quintuplets

[allmetaliswelcome]

how do you count your quituplets?

[Dcdrmwthme]

@allmetaliswelcome I usually just count them straight through... "1,2,3,4,5". Very, very rarely ill count them as "1,2,1,2,3".

[playswithpassion]

university university university university! gotta love the fives...it's nice to get comfortable with the uncomfortable.

[southnich14]

Everything you Teac Just hits of man it omes to me after watching these i apprecite the vids and your time they help out alot

[Blacklorigine]

Damn, it's harder than it looks!

[Dcdrmwthme]

@Blacklorigine

Think of it as just another subdivision. Just like there are two 8th notes to a beat, or four 16th notes to a beat, this is just five quintuplets to a beat. Its not easy, but its certainly do-able with a little bit of practice. Contact me if I can help at all...

David

[tenordrummercj]

@Dcdrmwthme its still 4/4 but the notes are diddled 5's. so on a met play 5's to the quarter note then double or "diddle" them.

[pdrums777]

well done!! and for all them negative comments... ITS 5 NOTES IN THE TIME OF ONE QUARTER NOTE or crotchet ... just like a triplet is different = 3 notes in a quarter note or "a beat"

[CoheedMars90]

I'm probably wrong because you seem to have a solid idea of technique and theory, but are you rushing in and out of the fills on purpose?

[Dcdrmwthme]

Well, Im not rushing them, but I am squeezing more notes into the same amount of space.

16th notes are 4 notes to every quarter, whereas quintuplets are 5 notes to every quarter.

[remedyz0802]

I've had a lot of fun reading the comments on this video :D Excellent drumming, those are rough to play for sure, and you have them very clean.

[Sabiano]

thats pretty much just 16th note triplets...

[Dcdrmwthme]

Sorry, but youre very wrong. Theres a HUGE difference between the 2 rates.

[nimajnebenneb]

hahahahah

[XDMikeyThePikeyXD]

NIICE

[FockerTheLopper]

wow... another great vid, those are tough!

[IMNajjar]

Good job man might I recommend something. Try and have the strokes move to the hi-hat as well it is often neglected in double strokes and it can make some great grooves.But all in all well done

[GunMetalSparkle]

Thats awesome :D

I play them arround the kit as singles, wich sucks cause I can't move arround the kit as much.

Have u tried playing them as RRLLR LLRRL?

[Dcdrmwthme]

Thanks!

I have tried RRLLR LLRRL as quintuplets, but really havent put much time into really exploring them...

[skinybonesjacob]

cool

[accurate18]

Very nice work, right on time. It takes some time to master quintuplets because they break the measure into irregular values and it may feel odd at first. But you seem to have no problem with them, great timing. I also like using them, specially on snare drum studies, alternating 2 measures of single paradiddles, and 2 measures of 9 stroke rolls phrased as quintuplets, as 9 stroke rolls actually have 5 hits, with 4 of them being double hits.

Cheers and keep playin' man !

[sputnik9708]

Exactly what he said!

[Jackinthehizzle]

That's cool, but it's kind of useless without explaining how you're counting them, thinking of them, etc.

[Dcdrmwthme]

its just quintuplets, counted 1,2,3,4,5...

[archonish]

so how's the sticking work? RRLLR LLRRL?

[Dcdrmwthme]

no, its straight double strokes all the way through.

RR LL RR LL RR LL, and so on.

[arose400]

I never thought of this before. I don't play drums but I could apply it to the keyboard. Thanks for posting!

[Dcdrmwthme]

My pleasure!

[Coltranized]

You obviously have no sense of rhythm, or for that matter time. In which case, you should just learn from someone who does because he's exactly on....

[andreastem]

you're perfectly in time

great idea

[Dcdrmwthme]

I cant believe Im actually discussing this with you.  Im perfectly on time throughout the video.

[cjdontthink2]

Honestly you are missing the beats man...

You can tell you dont hit the the downbeat on 1 on time

i may be wrong but i dont think so

ill get my metronome

[Dcdrmwthme]

Get your metronome. Im on time.

[Coltranized]

You are wrong. He didn't miss a beat at all. Feel the beats, don't follow em' and you will see that he's dead on time. But as reassurance, take your metronome out and observe for yourself that he IS in fact on time. Every time.

[Dcdrmwthme]

Yes, and im using it in this video. In fact, Im perfectly on time with it.

You obviously dont know what quintuplets are...

[c4sp3r91]

what exactly are quintuplets?

[kato0291]

in a 4/4 setting. like this one, one quarter-note beat is subdivided into 5 notes, just as a triplet subdivides a quarter into three notes.

alternately, its when a woman is pregnant with five children simultaneously :)

[Dcdrmwthme]

they're grouping if 5 notes, evenly spaced in the same time as a quarter note.

For comparison, a triplet is a group of 3 evenly spaced notes...make sense?

[epicfails614]

you've found a way to keep me busy for quite a while

[ljones56974]

Just looking at some of the comments, it amazes me that people can have such strong opinions on things they dont understand. And it becomes all too apparent that there are a lot of bad drummers/musicians out there who think they have the right to take the piss out of other people. Any half decent/educated drummer will know exactly what your playing here.

Excellent work mate, i just watched your Gadd 32nd's video as well, fantastic! I have been wondering what it is exactly for a long time.

[cargodudeMT]

A note to the creator: You may want to correct ur title. It should say, "Double Stroke Rolls" instead of, "Double stokes roll"

[scottlockhart]

Damn, this dudes got good timing.

[Dcdrmwthme]

quintuplets.

[im1just1here1]

nice set

[billpeart]

lets not get real upset here people, let me be the only idiot here...im sorry, i was unaware of this pattern, my knowledge is limited in the world of drumming, but today i learned something new! keep it up, sounds great!

[tillison4304]

haha how is his timin near perfect u retard

[Dcdrmwthme]

If you knew what a quintuplet was, youd know that what Im playing there is perfectly in time...

[groovemerchant1]

The timing is pretty spot on, you can hear this if you continue to count straight 4's through the fills, they will line up with the groove again after the fill. Dont post comments like 'retard' especially if you are wrong

[themancable]

tillison4304: Why do you call him a "retard" when just because you don't "get it". In your case, the saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" applies.

Check Gary Chaffee's "Technique Patterns" book where he takes you through doubles on 2s, 3s (triplets), 4s (16ths), 5s, 6s, 7s and 8s. You'll begin to hear that there is an entire world out there beyond binary and ternary subdivisions.

[ollythemagicbum]

are guys idiots, his timing is near perfect..

[eror89]

timing is really bad... you're funny ...

[uriangatobataclan]

That's the tricky sound of quintuplets, the sound just diferent, why everything must be binary? Nice sound, cool snare.

[billpeart]

poor timing, use a metronome

[Dcdrmwthme]

timing is perfect on these...listen to the click in the background.

[billpeart]

sorry, poor speakers, couldnt hear click. but to me the rolls seem slightly uneven, maybe im wrong!

[ArgentineDude]

Yep it doesn't sound right

[billpeart]

i didnt think so

[rautemusic]

the fill ins are out of time..

[billpeart]

i thought they were out of time! they dont seem even, but great effort anyway...i was starting to think i was crazy..just because they match up with a metronome (if they do???) doesnt mean they are even doubles.

[ollythemagicbum]

are you lot even drummers, seriously?

[billpeart]

huh?

[Dcdrmwthme]

Sorry guys, but the fills are perfectly in time.  Theyre quintuplets, not 16th notes like you'd normally expect to hear.

The reason they sound 'off' is because theyre halfway in between 16ths and sextuplets. Quintuplets do just that; they make it feel different than normal, yet they are actually in time...

[billpeart]

cool, keep up the great work!!!

[ollythemagicbum]

point was i was agreeing it was in time... you lot referring to the lot before me.

[tnsoltw]

the reason why you think its out of time is because he is playing an 8th note(2 against 1) based groove. the fills are quintuplets (5 against 1), which occupy a different amount of space than 8th's. if he played 16th's or 32nd's it would sound "correct"

[tnsoltw]

actually the 1st set of doubles he played were 16th's

[littlephoenix1115]

pretty rad... ive always liked doing my 5s as eggbeaters... but doubles has a pretty cool feel to it as well