A woman has now died in Victoria following a procedure at an abortion clinic. Have a close look at what is happening in Victoria since our abortion laws were changed in 2008. youtube.com/watch?v=7p4LVSmKx5M&feature=youtu.be
I think there is a God, I really do. but I honestly don't think he cares what I do with my life. I've never had someone reply to my prayers, or punish me for doing... whatever.
In all honesty, I think it's your choice to be against abortion but Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Don't judge other people, support them, help them no matter the choices. Follow your own propoganda.
This is pathetic. These women, assuming they actually exist, put themselves in this position by choosing not to wear protection. I only believe abortion is just when the would-be mother has been raped.
@Wolfovicz You're pathetic. Try going through an abortion, then see how you feel. Try having a guy slip his condom off halfway through, then having his seed impregnate you. You have no idea buddy.
Christians routinely spread hatred which destroys countless lives, and start wars that literally ends countless more. They spend their time and energy fighting against equal rights while children around the world are starving, being abused (often by the Christian church itself), and dying...yet they are hypocritical enough to whine about women's right to choose. Amazing.
@GodCreatesGays2 You really have a hate for God don't you! I'm trying to save lives from inconvenient pregnancies that women choose to have abortions with. Abortion is bloody murder. maybe if you knew anything about how lives are formed you would realise that.
@jimmys47 cries, "You really have a hate for God don't you!"
Pointing out man's failings does not equate to a "hatred" for God. The truth really scares the bejesus out of you. have you ever stopped to ask yourself why?
"I'm trying to save lives"
Then why don't you care for the ones that are already in existence?
You willful ignorance and hypocrisy are sad to see. All I can say is, "Forgive him, Father, for he knows not what he does."
@GodCreatesGays2 I wouldn't listen to the sad gospel message of a fag enabler. the reality is that abortion is wrong, homosexuality is wrong. Anybody who argues otherwise is disobeying the word of God. now you obviously think you know something about jesus or you wouldn't have wuoted him. Are you adhering to the full gospel though? The one that says abortion is murder. I do care for the lives already in existence, that's why i'm preaching to them. You have a problem with it? Take it up with God!
@jimmys47 brays, "I wouldn't listen to the sad gospel message of a fag enabler"
It's clear that you would reject Christ and all His teachings, yes. Satan is your deity, and instead of kneeling before the Lord, you eagerly bend over for the devil.
@jimmy47 until you have to decide that whether or not you can keep the life growing inside you, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. It's Christmas buddy, do us all a favour and shut up and be merry and get laid. Maybe a Christmas miracle will happen and you'll impregnate someone.
@liviixox I don't celebrate Christmas, it's a pagan holiday turned Christian by the Catholic church. I do understand actually, what's not to understand? It's a sin to get laid no matter what time of year it is, except if you're married to the person. None of your problems would exist if you just has sex with your spouse. The reality is that no matter how much you try and justify it with circumstance, you're still murdering a life. And the poor baby is the one who has to suffer.
@jimmy47 Yeah okay, you're just spouting insults at me while I provide facts and I'm the idiot. I am educated you ass and I probabaly know more about genetics and reproduction then you do. I know and believe that a life is created when the sperm fertilises the egg but I'm also pro choice. I'm grateful that I've never had to make that choice and but I fight for the right that women have to make that choice. You're a man you'll never understand.
@liviixox The women's lib movement is the worst thing that could have happened to women, because it takes their focus away from God and makes them think it's ok to sin. It's not. You are the idiot actually. Abortion is murder. Where would you be if your mother aborted you hmmm? You can learn about reproduction from a year 7 health class, so promoting yourself as some sort of expert beckons the question, what do you know that I don't? Hiding behind gender is no excuse. I understand plenty fool!
@jimmys47 I'm sure a 2000 year old dead guy cares that I spelled his name wrong. I'll question what I like buddy because I'm an educated woman and its my damn right. I went to catholic school, I know the literature. I don't identify as religious because I don't want to be associated with ignorant, bible bashing misogynists such as yourself. The bible is a 2000 year old book heavily edited by the catholic church to suit their interests. God is love, that's all I need to know.
@liviixox I'm not ignorant and i'm not a misogynist. You're the one who is an idiot. Don't you realize that a baby is a life, no matter what stage of life it is in? Now on the bible being edited, that old argument has been around for years. The only scripture that has been edited is romans 8:1. The rest is truth. Even romans 8:1 is truth except for the second half of it. You are not educated, you are a sex maniac murderer, and the longer you support abortions it will always be that way!
i am pro-life, but i am not the type of person to start being rude over an opinion. my opinion is that abortion is not good, one of my close friends is pro-choice. i respect her, she respects me. :)
I wouldn't trust politicians anyway. The fool in his heart says there is no God. Minority maybe, majority in heaven. Turn, repent of your abortion and God will forgive you. God won't allow you into heaven unless you repent. Abortion is murder and atheists have no moral compass. The only moral compass is Jesus and the bible.
People don't have the right to call themselves a PROLIFE'r unless they've adopted several unwanted children, given their money to pregnant women in financial hardship, helped young mothers finish their education and physically saved women from domestic abuse. If you're not doing any of those things, then you are not a pro life activist you're just a moron who is all talk and no action.
I have the right to make a choice and no one has the right to take that away from me.
@composednostalgia YOU HAVE NO FRICKIN; RIGHT TO MURDER A HUMAN BEING!!!!!!
and I think it's GREAT the aborting is illegal in Queensland, every single woman in that video who attempted to or did have an abortion should be given the DEATH PENALTY!!!
@composednostalgia i have the choice to go buy and smoke crack too. is that illegal? yes. the ability to choose between something does not make anyone intitled to that choice. am i intitled to rape someone? no. my choice has nothing to do with it, its wrong. how is abortion any different. your "choice" doesnt meen squat. what matters is if abortion is right or wrong in itself. is a fetus a fetus or is it a human being? thats where the arguement starts. anything else is just plain footlish.
@composednostalgia im sure pedophiles go through stress by not being able readily fullfill their desires. does their stress intitled them to molesting kids? im sure they can get stressed by it, but no its still wrong. so considering this, how does stress from a pregnancy make a woman intitled to abort their child?stress, cost, and education have nothing to do with what makes an abortion right or wrong just like stress-filled lust has nothing to do with making pedophilia right or wrong.
but u cant judge me ..jus because..e fetus or an embryo is A human beeing for me. And that ur circumstances doesnt excuse the fact FOR ME..that u would Kill a person.
Its funny, the pro-lifers say "aborting a fetus is murder, potential life this, potential life that"
The funny part is, you never hear them speaking out against male masturbation, which often results in many sperm cells dying (you know the thing that gets the egg to form the cells to make a baby?) Often in male masturbation sperm cells are left dead on a tissue in a bin somewhere. Non consistent arguments... the moment they argue against male masturbation is the moment I take them seriously
@natkipz correcting myself, "the moment they argue against male masturbation to the same extent that they argue against abortion is the moment I take them seriously, and not as a bunch of hypocrites"
but you never see videos arguing against male masturbation the same way they argue against abortion.... its very anti-woman imo.
@natkipz I argue against male masturbation. It's a sin in the bible. God even killed Onan because he spilled his seed away from Tamar (check Genesis 38). Abortion is murder, and these laws should be in place everywhere. Women who have abortions should be treated like criminals and go to jail in all parts of the world, not just Queensland. GetUp should be stoned for being such idiots. and the worst thing is people agree with them! Where is the moral code for Australia? Down the abortion tube!
@tanyablaze It's probably you who thinks we don't need aborted babies in Australia, which is why you get them aborted. Argumentum ad hominem. Don't call me an idiot, it just makes you look bad tanya blaze. Did your mother abort you? No? So that's why you're alive!
@jimmys47 youhave no idea why people abort babies in the first place. should a child be born out of rape, in poverty or in an abusive relationship? NO - and the smart women make that choice instead of bringing a child into a world so horrible they ususally end up uneducated & on the streets before adolescence. i am not judging either choice - as long as i have a choice and dont have to listen to "idiots" (yes i said it again) like you!
@tanyablaze A child should be born in all 3 occasions actually. Have you ever heard of adopting a child out? There's nothing smart about legalised murder. Uneducated? lady, you've got an issue with education... the fact remains that YOU have NO moral compass, and think you can do what you want. You just want to make it convenient for your life to abort a life. I know of children of raped mothers who are doing wonderful things with their lives. Who are you to decide who lives or dies, MURDERER!
@jimmys47 ohhhh murderer i am now? well thank god you are not the PM and thank god (btw who i dont even believe in) that you are the minority in this country!
@coolios90 mate, I know heaps of people who think that they can sin hiding behind luke 6:37. I have to tell you about God, it is my duty. Ever hear of scriptures like "thou shalt not murder" or "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" or even "how can they have seen and not believed, and how can they believe who have not heard, and how will they hear without a preacher". Hiding behind luke 6:37 isn't an excuse to go out sinning. Consider the nicolaitans in revelation 2.
@coolios90 FINALLY. That line right there is THE line that shows how most Bible pushers are so hypocritical. TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.
@jimmys47 You're a fucking idiot. The fact that your humping your bible is a sin because your sperm isn't being used to procreate humans..just stupid comments.
Wether your prolife or prochoice this video is gross artistic incompetance. It shows no understanding and proves no assertions. Sex, lies and videotape...WELCOME TO GETUP
What a fallacy! Images of women in a police line LMAO So in the 100000 abortions accounted for in previous years, which of these girls were put in prison. Anybody, go ahead and name some for me.........
Is the abortion pill safe? 14 U.S. women & 5 from other countries have died, + thousands with serious side-effects. Now Aussie study finds a high percentage of women using abortion drug require hospitalization. read lifenews.com/2011/05/10/study-high-of-women-using-abortion-drug-hospitalized/ Women, do your research!
Abortion is murder. Plain and Simple. If you kept your legs closed and waited till you got married you wouldn't have to be the mother of a dead baby. Look what cultural marxism has done to us.
@KumarZimmerman08 No, gunning down a doctor in his home, the parking lot or a church is murder. A zygote/embryo/fetus being removed from a womans body in a clean, safe clinic by a medical professional is a *medical procedure*. And you don't get to dictate when/if couples have sex.
@KumarZimmerman08 For some people life is about having fun, even to the extremes ;)...its got nothing to do with shitty religion groups saying have sex till your married, thats just fucking stupid, wear a condom and take some pills if you must. Every single woman should have the right to decide what they want to do when they've become pregnant.
@Martin8120 yea dude it takes 2 to make a baby, and i have rights if MY SPERM gets someone pregnant, stop with the feminist BS and bring in some balance
@KumarZimmerman08 I'd first first like to point out that you avoided answering my question, THAT says enough as it is about your real opinion. Second, does it matter? Every person is different, every case is different. Nobody has the right to say it's murder, that's like trying to say miscarriage, which is a surprisingly common thing, is murder. If it's done within the first trimester, saying it's murder is a load of BS.
@KumarZimmerman08 You can think what you want, but I still personally think you have no right to assume that majority of the people that end up with unwanted or unplanned pregnancies are shameless unmarried hussies fucking around with every Tom, Dick and Harry.
"A woman quite simply owns her body, and when a state, government, Congressmen, or President proclaims that no she does not own it, or has the right to control it, even for nine months, even for just nine minutes, an entire sex has been relegated to second-class, second-best, by virtue of birth."
It is criminal to kill someone just cause they didn't wanna have protection - If you don't like Queensland.. don't talk about it... QLD rules you! Also I think it's a bit bad this group tells people who the vote for. Lefty powers going totally wrong trying to make us communist. Then we will all be treated like criminals unless we suck up to uneducated wannabes.
This is one cause I would support GetUp! on. The religious zealots who oppose abortion (with varying degrees of radicalism) need to be put in their place.
Why does Queensland still criminalise abortion. They need to wake up to the realities. I am sick of people's beliefs about the "rights of the unborn" and especially the sick scum who shove pictures of dead babies down people's throats to back up their fascist "cause".
@CanberraUser It is fascist to think it is good to kill people just cause others didn't wanna use protection. Also it is MUCH better having Australian born babies then just relying on foreign imports to make up the numbers in population. I am not Christian or any of those fraudulent religions, but I still think it is pure evil and selfishness for a female to want to abort. Just cause you like seeing dead babies CanberraUser doesn't make the whole world has to be as sick as you.
I see all these posts: "I'd rather get adopted than no start at all" etc.
And how about this gem (as if comparing abortion to paedophilia): '"You don't hear them saying "All these men were jailed because they're paedophiles, make it legal"' – OMFG!
So how about this (from me): “The life and good health of a fully grown woman is more important than a blastocyst or foetus! Period”!
Like it or not, the emotional consequences will be dealt with after the abortion takes place – as they should be.
And the answer is we should stop treating women like criminals when they stop murdering innocent children. Any high school kid could see how getup stuff is so emotionally charged and ABSOLUTELY DEVOID OF FACTS!!!!!!!! GROW UP get up.
The laws do not need changing. People need to stop breaking them. If people are not ready for a child, there are many solutions (contraceptives, the pill, or DON'T HAVE SEX!!!) all of these are preferable to murder. You don't hear them saying "All these men were jailed because they're paedophiles, make it legal"
And you don't go and buy a dog and then halfway home go "I don't want it anymore. I know, I'll kill it" think before you act people.
@CanberraUser The crime of intentionally killing another human being is called murder.
Yes I have heard of rape, and these people should face much worse punishement.
Condoms break, but I personally haven't had sex protected or otherwise, without being fully prepared to raise a child should that happen
How am I FORCING my opinions on anyone? No more than you. I didn't knock on your door and preach to you, you read my comment of your own free will. There is nothing fascist about protecting life
1. Yeah but we're not talking about the killing of another human being. We're talking about abortion.
2. Anti-abortionists force their opinions on everyone who is unfortunate enough to live in their jurisdiction through the repressive legislation that criminalises such a practice
3. What's "protecting life" got to do with it? I'm protecting the livelihood of anyone who has to deal with an unwanted pregnancy
@CanberraUser 1. What is growing inside the mother if not another human being?
2. As I said: How am I FORCING an opinion on anyone?? I am saying what I think as you are. I didn't even say anyone has to agree with me. I'm not accusing you of forcing your opinion on anyone.. And I don't make the laws so don't blame me, write to a politician if you don't like it
3. Why is abortion the only "solution"?? If people took adequate precautions, at least 80% of "unwanted" pregnancies would be eliminated
1. It's not a human being it's a growth, it's nothing like when it comes out at 9 months. The definition of "human being" tends to get stretched on this point
2. You support such oppressive legislation where in force. I never said you make the rules, but you ADVOCATE such repression
3. Yeah but what about the other 20% ay?? People do take adequate precautions yet you still condemn them for fixing those unwanted pregnancies, no?
@CanberraUser 1. Like I said, you are entitled to what you think and so am I, and I'm not going to try to convince you of anything...
2. Yes everyone has the right to support the laws they agree with be it guns, gay rights, fishing, immigration, etc. this is the beauty of living in a democracy.
3. 20% is better than 100%. My sister had an "accidental" pregnancy, and raised the child, & my niece is the most adorable kid, my sister can't imagine not having her in the world despite the hardship
My issue is this... Abortion is NOT a free choice for any woman. The very use of the word 'choice' is a bitter irony. What kind of society to we live in that coerces women into killing their own child.
2 of my good friends have had abortions, one of them still keeps the ultrasound photo of her 9 week old fetus in her wallet, the other has depression. Abortion is criminal because of the suffering inflicted on women and the taking of the human life in their womb. Abortion = 1 dead + 1 wounded.
That's not altogether true. That "depression" and the "wounded" refers to the illusion that a "life has been taken". That illusion is due to belief rather than fact. Nobody dies in an abortion, unless the person having the abortion gets sick and dies.
Why is it that because the child is inside its mother killing it is not criminal, but once outside to kill it is murder?
Abortion IS a crime, and the "doctors" who perform it should be charged as criminals. Women with problem pregnancies need help, not the blood of their own children.
@CanberraUser Ever think that Lefties make MUCH WORSE FASCISTS ? Cause people are not allowed freedom... It is not freedom to kill other people... no matter how much Gaffadi tells you it's cool.
A "fetus" is not a "baby." A fetus only becomes a baby when it is born. It begins from day #1 and not before. Therefore the term 'killing a baby' is incorrect when applied to abortion.
A fetus isn't a person until they're born. That is when life begins. Until that time, they are biologically part of the mother. Therefore abortion is not "murder," and there's no need for subjective emotional arguments from the anti-abortion lobby.
i dont believe women should be treated that way,here comes the but,i've seen to many women in the us using abortion like its birth control as if it were the pill,and partial birth abortion is the worst that a woman could do with an unborn hearting beating human thats not a little blob of flesh
If someone killed me, it would affect my family and friends, and as I know know, there is too much to look forward to and I have achieved too much in my life to let someone take it away. If someone was to kill me before I'm even aware I exist, before anyone builds any attachment to me, and before I even know what the world is, what's so immoral about that? Can someone tell me why an abortion is so horrible? Seriously, tell me.
read my other comment before it's flagged off.i look at it like this,people blame God for not sending us someone to cure aids or cancer,but He said i did but you aborted them.this comment will be flagged off i'm sure.
To be honest i don't understand how women can be treated as criminals for an abortion. First of all there are reasons behind why a women would get an abortion and each one is looked at case by case not just because they wanted to get an abortion. Its usually thought out thoroughly beforehand discussed with a doctor and then the procedure is done. Killing something that has never felt or had feelings hardly seems unethical to me
@smcin72 It has to do with the whole argument that it's still a living, breathing person, that it can feel and has felt emotions, so it's pretty much murder. I personally do think that an unborn child is capable of emotion and such, but I still agree with drealgrin, it's a last resort, not like someone wakes up and decides 'Hey, this abortion stuff sounds like fun'.
If you dont want a child, dont get pregnant. It is really very simple.
All those of you using the raped woman argument..it accounts for less than 0.001% of the argument here, so kindly drop it. Babies can be fostered you know...NO NEED TO MURDER THEM.
If you dont want a child, dont get pregnant. It is reallt very simple.
All those of you using the raped argument..it accounts dor less than 0.001% of the argument here sokindly drop it. Babies can be dostered you know...no need to murder them .
Qld ALP policy platform states remove abortion from the 120year old Criminal code(that was repealed by Britain in 1967). Whatever the individual circumstances(it is not yours to judge), a woman's right to autonomous health decision must be provided along with all reproductive health choices, with respect and safety.
If MPs can't vote on their religious belief, and regard women as an offense against morality send it to the Law Reform Commission NOW!
I hate it how pro abortion activists always through extremes and try to scare campaign people into thinking that all women considering abortions were raped therefore justifying there actions. it such a small % that its ridiculous.
All it does is distract people from the root of the problem, unwanted pregancnies, and yes in extreme cases, unreported rapes. in reported rape cases (early) Women have the option to take the morning after pill which guarantees no pregnancy. these stupid abortion
debates just continue to cloud the original cause of the problem, making it harder and harder for women to come out and talk.
who says that being adopted means you dont get a good start? and i'd prefer a bad start rather than be aborted and have no start at all. more interest/education in safe sex is going to be more beneficial than more debate on abortion.
Many children that have been adopted, have had good starts in life. I have a few very good friends who had been adopted out. These days going on the comments for abortion, these children would never have had a life.
@GARETHMOCHAN first of all, it's not a baby, its a fetus. there is no point in bringing another baby in our already over populated world. if people want to adopt children, there are thousands of children in asia, living in orphanages in the worst conditions.
dont force your morals onto others. people should be given a choice.
@MissCharmedOne Yes of course people have a choice, use birth control, its not difficult is it!?
If you do get pregnant then just get the baby adopted to one of the thousands of loving couples who cannot have children of their own. I understand you will be uncomfortable for 9 months but to murder an innocent because people didnt plan for a baby is beyond evil.
I used to be a member of GetUp until I realised they were just trying to convert people to the extreme Greens policies of death, porn & drugs! Leave babies & the elderly alone! don't you know the baby's heart starts beating at 24 Days! It's not your body, it's a separate human body within you! One that's depending on you to protect it! Stop being so selfish, so she's going to disrupt your life for 9 months, when she's born give her to one of the thousands who would desparately love to have her
I used to be a member of GetUp until I realised they were just trying to convert people to the extreme Greens policies of death, porn & drugs! Leave babies & the elderly alone! don't you know the baby's heart starts beating at 24 Days! It's not your body, it's a separate human body within you! One that's depending on you to protect it! Stop being so selfish, so she's going to disrupt your life for 9 months, when she's born give her to one of the thousands who would desparately love to have her
We will be adapting a society around the style of Hitler, that children are commodities, easily disposed of, rather than developing human beings in want of love and a developing life.
This ad is very disappointing. Why not say "A man has just been put on trial in Sydney, because carjacking is a crime in NSW. When will the givernment stop treating men like criminals?" This ad uses the same emotionalist blurring of logic and fact that they are so happily critical of when banks or pollies do it.
If you think that abortion should not be a crime, please watch the video "A Story About Life". I find hard to believe that this is happening in Australia.
abortion is not about killing babies, its about a basic human right - the right to control one's body.
the couble who were recently on trial were not performing a typical 'backyard abortion'. they used a drug called RU-486, a pill that is considered more safer than the 'normal' abortive surgery. i's not that different to the morning after pill- however it can be used safely and effectively up to 9 weeks of gestation.
So you believe that a foetus at six weeks isn't a human life ??
That it's okay to destroy it and not allowed him or her to be born in this life ??
This couple obviously were living together, when ever is the time right to have a child in their case. When does one toss up when is the best time to have a baby ?? Get rid of one, then have another one later on when it suits them ??
@chavrons1 i remember exactly whether or not they were living together, but it doesn't really make a difference either way.
some people may not be emotionally or financially ready to have a baby. like i said before, it's their choice.
i personally believe that abortion before the 6th week of gestation is ok (because the 6th week is when the baby begins developing their nervous systems and they could probably feel pain) but other people have different beliefs and i respect that and u should too
Yes - Women should just have babies instead of abortions, then the children can grow up drug addicts or be abused in situations where the mother knew it wasn't ideal to have a child. Christians are creepy.
First, nobody has the right to say that a woman must have a baby.
On the other hand, if she knows she's pregnant and wants an abortion, she should really get in as soon as possible to prevent the foetus from developing too much.
@LadyLatias that statement is an oxymoron if you really think that the life a women is carrying is a baby then by your moralising the womans choice would lead to killing. We have laws that dosnt even let this happen to animals wtf
@fotizome ...Actually, this does happen to animals. A lot of animals in shelters are put down if they cannot be adopted out after a period of time. The shelters simply do not have the funds or space to care for them anymore.
Quite a number of countries have a death penalty. They are also, effectively 'taking the life of another'.
As LadyLatias said, you have absolutely no place to judge a woman's motives. I've never heard of a woman getting an abortion because she got high on the feeling of killing. I have, on the other hand, heard of rape victims and women who simply didn't have the means to give a child the best chance in the world, going through the trauma of having an adoption.
I am not judging a women's motives that is not my place. I am simply defending those who can not defend themselves. I sympathise with those women who have an unwanted pregnancy from rape but that is never the child's fault, so why should the child die!! If a women can not support a child they should not have sex. Adoption is not a bad thing it is a way of giving a family who long for a child a chance to have that!
So you think that when a girl is raped, after all the anguish she deals with from the rape itself, that she then must have her rapist's baby and be happy to raise it?
Sex isn't something that someone plans, and to abstain until you're ready to have a child is completely unrealistic.
You can't possibly believe that every child who is put up for adoption is actually adopted. These children, adopted or not, are deprived of what every child deserves, a good start into the world.
@lloveyouu I said that she could give it up for adoption.... it is not the baby's fault that it was concieved in such a terrible way..Why should the child die because the father is a pig....Sure not every child is adopted but it is better then killing them.
And why is not realistic to wait until you are ready to have a child to have sex.??? Sex is not necessary believe it or not.
What next, are you going to say that people shouldn't use birth control pills because they are missing the opportunity to possibly have a child which could do good in the world? If people waited until they were ready for children to have sex the world would be a VERY different place. Definitely not practical.
@Setapart164 Because some people don't want kids? Because sex is a natural human urge? The intimacy, the pure rush of it... we're a horrible species. ._.
@LadyLatias when someone is having sex they are aware that there is a possibility that they will get pregnant. having sex when you are not willing to have a child is irresponsible and selfish. Have your tubes ties or something if you don't want kids that badly. Don't kill them because you could not resist your urges...... you do not have to have sex.
In situations such as rape, abortion would then be between the doctor and referred surgeon.
I don't believe it should be made easy for a developing child, to be easy to be got rid of. This couple who aborted their child, said they weren't ready for one. When is the right time ??
When they have a 400,000 house, when they have grown tired of nightclubbing.
@lloveyouu Yes. Absolutely, sex isn't something that somebody plans, that's why there's modalities to prevent conception. Also, your remarks about adoption propel one notion: it's OK to terminate a genetic code's potential to experience life because he/she may be deprived of a good child hood . I'm not sure about you, but as a former fetus, I certainly wouldn't want you to be making that decision for me. I'd rather be brought up in an orphanage for 10 years of my life than be terminated early on
@lloveyouu what a load of B.S the rape arguement is when it in reality counts for less than 1% of the abortion numbers around Australia. Don't make silly pro choice excuses like that, they dont hold weight
Gee - what a waste of money and life. I can't believe the bald faced sophistry of this production. It's fine and dandy for them to speak up and organise politically - I'm all for that - but what of those little ones who can't raise money and design ads: why are they executed as if they were criminals? Do people still fall for this kind of propaganda? Why not just show pictures of babies, first with hook noses, then cut to swarms of rats scurrying over one another. GitUp is a joke.
It has been said once before break the law accept the recoarse. The discription says 90% believe early term abortion is acceptable. What was the exact question asked i wonder?? Do you believe woman should be able to abbort an embryo that has a bad medical condition or in the case of rape?? Do you believe that a woman should be able to abbort an embryo in the early stages for any reason she deems fit?? There are already provisions in aus for a woman to have an abortion for medical reasons..
At the heart of the abortion debate is the question of when does human life begin. I believe it is the earliest of 1. The parents especially the mother recognises her pregnancy as a wanted child OR the baby can reasonably survive outside of the womb. Women should always be free to choose what to do with their bodies and not be dictated to by self righteous males (or females).
To all those against abortions, do you foster someone's unwanted or abused child? Do you help a family who has a child with a disability? Help in crisis counseling?
Before you stand in judgment of a woman who makes the hardest decision in her life, think, and I mean really think of what that child and their family's life will be like.
In this day and age, abortion seems to be the way forward. Although being humanitarian has made me feel against the early short-cut of unborn life, as a liberalist, it seems that we should remove archaic laws in favour of contemporary ones. Abortion should be allowed BUT only under special and specific circumstances (such as unwanted teen pregnancies and the like). Abortion should only be a last resort if no future situations would allow for the welfare of the baby to be top priority.
@Leadman1989 that's right, because people always carry condoms, condoms never break, people never vomit the morning after pill, chemists (drugstores) are always open when you need them, and abstinence is an effective form of birth control. Unfortunately, accidents happen, and abortion is the ONLY resort after 72hrs.
is it to much to ask a sexually active person to carry a condom? really? condoms break yeah and if your not ready for a baby (male OR female) maybe you shouldn't be having sex you know the thing that makes babies... if you're sexually active there's no excuse not to have those things BEFORE hand
abstinence IS (unfortunately) the only 100% form of birth control and std control
abortion should be a last resort no something people turn to to sherk responsibility
@Leadman1989 I'm not suggesting people shouldn't use birth control, simply that no birth control is 100% effective, even when used in combination with other forms (eg pill + condoms). Of course prevention is better than cure, but it doesn't always work. Abortion IS a last resort. I don't know ANY woman who would choose an abortion over not getting pregnant in the first place.
As for abstinence and not having sex until you're ready for a baby... good luck with that one.
it's NOT a last resort a last resort is when you have no other option... it is just seen as apart of birth control which it shouldn't be... if you weren't raped and you're going to have a relatively healthy (i say relative because no all pregnancies are risky but some more than others) and safe pregnancy then abortion should NOT be an option
BUT if it's an atopic pregnancy or RAPE then only a heartless MONSTER would deny them that ability
A woman has now died in Victoria following a procedure at an abortion clinic. Have a close look at what is happening in Victoria since our abortion laws were changed in 2008. youtube.com/watch?v=7p4LVSmKx5M&feature=youtu.be
wotiswot 2 months ago
I think there is a God, I really do. but I honestly don't think he cares what I do with my life. I've never had someone reply to my prayers, or punish me for doing... whatever.
In all honesty, I think it's your choice to be against abortion but Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Don't judge other people, support them, help them no matter the choices. Follow your own propoganda.
TommyM05 2 months ago
This is pathetic. These women, assuming they actually exist, put themselves in this position by choosing not to wear protection. I only believe abortion is just when the would-be mother has been raped.
Wolfovicz 2 months ago
@Wolfovicz You're pathetic. Try going through an abortion, then see how you feel. Try having a guy slip his condom off halfway through, then having his seed impregnate you. You have no idea buddy.
ohyeahhoneysheband 1 week ago
Shame on you murderers.
jimmys47 2 months ago
Christians routinely spread hatred which destroys countless lives, and start wars that literally ends countless more. They spend their time and energy fighting against equal rights while children around the world are starving, being abused (often by the Christian church itself), and dying...yet they are hypocritical enough to whine about women's right to choose. Amazing.
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 You really have a hate for God don't you! I'm trying to save lives from inconvenient pregnancies that women choose to have abortions with. Abortion is bloody murder. maybe if you knew anything about how lives are formed you would realise that.
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 cries, "You really have a hate for God don't you!"
Pointing out man's failings does not equate to a "hatred" for God. The truth really scares the bejesus out of you. have you ever stopped to ask yourself why?
"I'm trying to save lives"
Then why don't you care for the ones that are already in existence?
You willful ignorance and hypocrisy are sad to see. All I can say is, "Forgive him, Father, for he knows not what he does."
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I wouldn't listen to the sad gospel message of a fag enabler. the reality is that abortion is wrong, homosexuality is wrong. Anybody who argues otherwise is disobeying the word of God. now you obviously think you know something about jesus or you wouldn't have wuoted him. Are you adhering to the full gospel though? The one that says abortion is murder. I do care for the lives already in existence, that's why i'm preaching to them. You have a problem with it? Take it up with God!
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 brays, "I wouldn't listen to the sad gospel message of a fag enabler"
It's clear that you would reject Christ and all His teachings, yes. Satan is your deity, and instead of kneeling before the Lord, you eagerly bend over for the devil.
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@jimmy47 until you have to decide that whether or not you can keep the life growing inside you, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. It's Christmas buddy, do us all a favour and shut up and be merry and get laid. Maybe a Christmas miracle will happen and you'll impregnate someone.
liviixox 2 months ago
@liviixox I don't celebrate Christmas, it's a pagan holiday turned Christian by the Catholic church. I do understand actually, what's not to understand? It's a sin to get laid no matter what time of year it is, except if you're married to the person. None of your problems would exist if you just has sex with your spouse. The reality is that no matter how much you try and justify it with circumstance, you're still murdering a life. And the poor baby is the one who has to suffer.
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmy47 Yeah okay, you're just spouting insults at me while I provide facts and I'm the idiot. I am educated you ass and I probabaly know more about genetics and reproduction then you do. I know and believe that a life is created when the sperm fertilises the egg but I'm also pro choice. I'm grateful that I've never had to make that choice and but I fight for the right that women have to make that choice. You're a man you'll never understand.
liviixox 2 months ago
@liviixox The women's lib movement is the worst thing that could have happened to women, because it takes their focus away from God and makes them think it's ok to sin. It's not. You are the idiot actually. Abortion is murder. Where would you be if your mother aborted you hmmm? You can learn about reproduction from a year 7 health class, so promoting yourself as some sort of expert beckons the question, what do you know that I don't? Hiding behind gender is no excuse. I understand plenty fool!
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 I'm sure a 2000 year old dead guy cares that I spelled his name wrong. I'll question what I like buddy because I'm an educated woman and its my damn right. I went to catholic school, I know the literature. I don't identify as religious because I don't want to be associated with ignorant, bible bashing misogynists such as yourself. The bible is a 2000 year old book heavily edited by the catholic church to suit their interests. God is love, that's all I need to know.
liviixox 2 months ago
@liviixox I'm not ignorant and i'm not a misogynist. You're the one who is an idiot. Don't you realize that a baby is a life, no matter what stage of life it is in? Now on the bible being edited, that old argument has been around for years. The only scripture that has been edited is romans 8:1. The rest is truth. Even romans 8:1 is truth except for the second half of it. You are not educated, you are a sex maniac murderer, and the longer you support abortions it will always be that way!
jimmys47 2 months ago
I think we don't need any more people on this dumb planet.
deactivated2011 2 months ago
@deactivated2011 Well maybe if they would close their legs and stop acting like hussies they wouldn't get pregnant.
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 Get fucked, lmao.
deactivated2011 2 months ago
@jimmy47 you keep calling this tanyablaze women a murderer when you yourself said God "killed" Oman for masturbation. Who's the murderer now?
liviixox 2 months ago
@liviixox It was Onan with an N, and in Genesis 38, he killed him because he wouldn't get Tamar pregnant. You can't question the sovereignty of God.
jimmys47 2 months ago
i am pro-life, but i am not the type of person to start being rude over an opinion. my opinion is that abortion is not good, one of my close friends is pro-choice. i respect her, she respects me. :)
vikvik16 2 months ago
I wouldn't trust politicians anyway. The fool in his heart says there is no God. Minority maybe, majority in heaven. Turn, repent of your abortion and God will forgive you. God won't allow you into heaven unless you repent. Abortion is murder and atheists have no moral compass. The only moral compass is Jesus and the bible.
jimmys47 2 months ago
People don't have the right to call themselves a PROLIFE'r unless they've adopted several unwanted children, given their money to pregnant women in financial hardship, helped young mothers finish their education and physically saved women from domestic abuse. If you're not doing any of those things, then you are not a pro life activist you're just a moron who is all talk and no action.
I have the right to make a choice and no one has the right to take that away from me.
composednostalgia 2 months ago 14
@composednostalgia Go to hell. You deserve it.
jimmys47 2 months ago
@composednostalgia YOU HAVE NO FRICKIN; RIGHT TO MURDER A HUMAN BEING!!!!!!
and I think it's GREAT the aborting is illegal in Queensland, every single woman in that video who attempted to or did have an abortion should be given the DEATH PENALTY!!!
christianfilmer1500 1 month ago
@composednostalgia i have the choice to go buy and smoke crack too. is that illegal? yes. the ability to choose between something does not make anyone intitled to that choice. am i intitled to rape someone? no. my choice has nothing to do with it, its wrong. how is abortion any different. your "choice" doesnt meen squat. what matters is if abortion is right or wrong in itself. is a fetus a fetus or is it a human being? thats where the arguement starts. anything else is just plain footlish.
CJsoccer4 2 weeks ago
@CJsoccer4 a human fetus is a human being because a fetus is a being
ninamor1982 2 weeks ago
@composednostalgia im sure pedophiles go through stress by not being able readily fullfill their desires. does their stress intitled them to molesting kids? im sure they can get stressed by it, but no its still wrong. so considering this, how does stress from a pregnancy make a woman intitled to abort their child?stress, cost, and education have nothing to do with what makes an abortion right or wrong just like stress-filled lust has nothing to do with making pedophilia right or wrong.
CJsoccer4 2 weeks ago
@composednostalgia thats compleltey true.
but u cant judge me ..jus because..e fetus or an embryo is A human beeing for me. And that ur circumstances doesnt excuse the fact FOR ME..that u would Kill a person.
Mekolino1987 6 days ago
Its funny, the pro-lifers say "aborting a fetus is murder, potential life this, potential life that"
The funny part is, you never hear them speaking out against male masturbation, which often results in many sperm cells dying (you know the thing that gets the egg to form the cells to make a baby?) Often in male masturbation sperm cells are left dead on a tissue in a bin somewhere. Non consistent arguments... the moment they argue against male masturbation is the moment I take them seriously
natkipz 3 months ago
@natkipz correcting myself, "the moment they argue against male masturbation to the same extent that they argue against abortion is the moment I take them seriously, and not as a bunch of hypocrites"
but you never see videos arguing against male masturbation the same way they argue against abortion.... its very anti-woman imo.
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Heffay228 2 months ago
@natkipz I argue against male masturbation. It's a sin in the bible. God even killed Onan because he spilled his seed away from Tamar (check Genesis 38). Abortion is murder, and these laws should be in place everywhere. Women who have abortions should be treated like criminals and go to jail in all parts of the world, not just Queensland. GetUp should be stoned for being such idiots. and the worst thing is people agree with them! Where is the moral code for Australia? Down the abortion tube!
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 you have clearly no education and should be stoned yourself because in Australia we dont need small minded idiots like you...
tanyablaze 2 months ago
@tanyablaze It's probably you who thinks we don't need aborted babies in Australia, which is why you get them aborted. Argumentum ad hominem. Don't call me an idiot, it just makes you look bad tanya blaze. Did your mother abort you? No? So that's why you're alive!
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 youhave no idea why people abort babies in the first place. should a child be born out of rape, in poverty or in an abusive relationship? NO - and the smart women make that choice instead of bringing a child into a world so horrible they ususally end up uneducated & on the streets before adolescence. i am not judging either choice - as long as i have a choice and dont have to listen to "idiots" (yes i said it again) like you!
tanyablaze 2 months ago
@tanyablaze A child should be born in all 3 occasions actually. Have you ever heard of adopting a child out? There's nothing smart about legalised murder. Uneducated? lady, you've got an issue with education... the fact remains that YOU have NO moral compass, and think you can do what you want. You just want to make it convenient for your life to abort a life. I know of children of raped mothers who are doing wonderful things with their lives. Who are you to decide who lives or dies, MURDERER!
jimmys47 2 months ago
@jimmys47 ohhhh murderer i am now? well thank god you are not the PM and thank god (btw who i dont even believe in) that you are the minority in this country!
tanyablaze 2 months ago
@jimmys47 Luke 6:37 " Do not judge and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."
coolios90 2 months ago 2
@coolios90 amen :D
vikvik16 2 months ago
@coolios90 mate, I know heaps of people who think that they can sin hiding behind luke 6:37. I have to tell you about God, it is my duty. Ever hear of scriptures like "thou shalt not murder" or "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" or even "how can they have seen and not believed, and how can they believe who have not heard, and how will they hear without a preacher". Hiding behind luke 6:37 isn't an excuse to go out sinning. Consider the nicolaitans in revelation 2.
jimmys47 2 months ago
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deactivated2011 2 months ago
@coolios90 FINALLY. That line right there is THE line that shows how most Bible pushers are so hypocritical. TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.
Heffay228 2 months ago
@jimmys47 You're a fucking idiot. The fact that your humping your bible is a sin because your sperm isn't being used to procreate humans..just stupid comments.
Heffay228 2 months ago
@Heffay228 Your sperm isn't being used to procreate humans either, its being used to create and murder babies.
jimmys47 2 months ago
Best form of birth control I heard of
Ozipeter 4 months ago
Wether your prolife or prochoice this video is gross artistic incompetance. It shows no understanding and proves no assertions. Sex, lies and videotape...WELCOME TO GETUP
fotizome 6 months ago
What a fallacy! Images of women in a police line LMAO So in the 100000 abortions accounted for in previous years, which of these girls were put in prison. Anybody, go ahead and name some for me.........
fotizome 6 months ago
Is the abortion pill safe? 14 U.S. women & 5 from other countries have died, + thousands with serious side-effects. Now Aussie study finds a high percentage of women using abortion drug require hospitalization. read lifenews.com/2011/05/10/study-high-of-women-using-abortion-drug-hospitalized/ Women, do your research!
wotiswot 7 months ago
realsitically though if anyone get arrested isnt it usally the doctors.. not the women having an abortion
badpanda84 7 months ago
Abortion is murder. Plain and Simple. If you kept your legs closed and waited till you got married you wouldn't have to be the mother of a dead baby. Look what cultural marxism has done to us.
KumarZimmerman08 10 months ago
@KumarZimmerman08 No, gunning down a doctor in his home, the parking lot or a church is murder. A zygote/embryo/fetus being removed from a womans body in a clean, safe clinic by a medical professional is a *medical procedure*. And you don't get to dictate when/if couples have sex.
Karenjadegirl 10 months ago
@KumarZimmerman08 For some people life is about having fun, even to the extremes ;)...its got nothing to do with shitty religion groups saying have sex till your married, thats just fucking stupid, wear a condom and take some pills if you must. Every single woman should have the right to decide what they want to do when they've become pregnant.
Martin8120 9 months ago
@Martin8120 yea dude it takes 2 to make a baby, and i have rights if MY SPERM gets someone pregnant, stop with the feminist BS and bring in some balance
fotizome 6 months ago
@KumarZimmerman08 And what if she's raped? That's suddenly her fault?
LadyLatias 6 months ago
@LadyLatias What % of women who get abortions have been raped?
KumarZimmerman08 5 months ago
@KumarZimmerman08 I'd first first like to point out that you avoided answering my question, THAT says enough as it is about your real opinion. Second, does it matter? Every person is different, every case is different. Nobody has the right to say it's murder, that's like trying to say miscarriage, which is a surprisingly common thing, is murder. If it's done within the first trimester, saying it's murder is a load of BS.
LadyLatias 5 months ago
@LadyLatias I asked you what % it would be, i'd imagine very few. I think its murder either way.
KumarZimmerman08 5 months ago
@KumarZimmerman08 You can think what you want, but I still personally think you have no right to assume that majority of the people that end up with unwanted or unplanned pregnancies are shameless unmarried hussies fucking around with every Tom, Dick and Harry.
LadyLatias 5 months ago
@KumarZimmerman08 Who died and made you god! , Its my body ,my temple i can do what ever i like with it , END OF STORY ! I
xingwei12 4 months ago
Hm. Ever noticed people who support abortion are alive and have already undergone birth?
Niacinimide 10 months ago
@Niacinimide Yes, because their parents had the right to choose to have them or not.
Also, over 70% of anti-choicers are males. 100% of them will never be pregnant.
Karenjadegirl 10 months ago
@Niacinimide Personally I wish I were aborted.
deactivated2011 2 months ago
Amazing, this ad is excellent. Love seeing ruthless feminazis charged for killing an unborn child. At least we respect life, here in Queensland.
Niacinimide 10 months ago
@Niacinimide You may respect zygotes/embryos/fetuses but not life and certainly not women who are already born.
Karenjadegirl 10 months ago
"A woman quite simply owns her body, and when a state, government, Congressmen, or President proclaims that no she does not own it, or has the right to control it, even for nine months, even for just nine minutes, an entire sex has been relegated to second-class, second-best, by virtue of birth."
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
It is criminal to kill someone just cause they didn't wanna have protection - If you don't like Queensland.. don't talk about it... QLD rules you! Also I think it's a bit bad this group tells people who the vote for. Lefty powers going totally wrong trying to make us communist. Then we will all be treated like criminals unless we suck up to uneducated wannabes.
valcarni1 11 months ago
This is one cause I would support GetUp! on. The religious zealots who oppose abortion (with varying degrees of radicalism) need to be put in their place.
Why does Queensland still criminalise abortion. They need to wake up to the realities. I am sick of people's beliefs about the "rights of the unborn" and especially the sick scum who shove pictures of dead babies down people's throats to back up their fascist "cause".
CanberraUser 11 months ago
@CanberraUser It is fascist to think it is good to kill people just cause others didn't wanna use protection. Also it is MUCH better having Australian born babies then just relying on foreign imports to make up the numbers in population. I am not Christian or any of those fraudulent religions, but I still think it is pure evil and selfishness for a female to want to abort. Just cause you like seeing dead babies CanberraUser doesn't make the whole world has to be as sick as you.
valcarni1 11 months ago
@valcarni1 "fascist", "fraudulent religions" - what are you, 13?
ThatKidFromAisle11 11 months ago
@valcarni1 " I am not Christian or any of those fraudulent religions"
LOL are you implying that christainity is not fraudulent.. why not say I'm not relgious at all..
badpanda84 7 months ago
@badpanda84 lol wow dude your statements just brought down the whole vatican, call the cops, your very clever
fotizome 6 months ago
@fotizome Lol if only it was that easy-- ( you would think haviing child molesting priest was a crime)
badpanda84 6 months ago
I see all these posts: "I'd rather get adopted than no start at all" etc.
And how about this gem (as if comparing abortion to paedophilia): '"You don't hear them saying "All these men were jailed because they're paedophiles, make it legal"' – OMFG!
So how about this (from me): “The life and good health of a fully grown woman is more important than a blastocyst or foetus! Period”!
Like it or not, the emotional consequences will be dealt with after the abortion takes place – as they should be.
Joshua001A 1 year ago
And the answer is we should stop treating women like criminals when they stop murdering innocent children. Any high school kid could see how getup stuff is so emotionally charged and ABSOLUTELY DEVOID OF FACTS!!!!!!!! GROW UP get up.
cavalierjon 1 year ago
The laws do not need changing. People need to stop breaking them. If people are not ready for a child, there are many solutions (contraceptives, the pill, or DON'T HAVE SEX!!!) all of these are preferable to murder. You don't hear them saying "All these men were jailed because they're paedophiles, make it legal"
And you don't go and buy a dog and then halfway home go "I don't want it anymore. I know, I'll kill it" think before you act people.
VRCommy 1 year ago
@VRCommy Abortion = 1 dead + 1 wounded. OR maybe a future child saved from misery.
garagecrap 1 year ago
@garagecrap Possibly so, but my point is don't have the child in the first place to save having to make that decision.
VRCommy 1 year ago
"Murder"?? What "murder"??
Also, ever heard of rape? Did you know that condoms break or the pills fade.
You have no right to force your opinions about abortion on people's lives with fascist dictatorial laws.
CanberraUser 11 months ago
@CanberraUser The crime of intentionally killing another human being is called murder.
Yes I have heard of rape, and these people should face much worse punishement.
Condoms break, but I personally haven't had sex protected or otherwise, without being fully prepared to raise a child should that happen
How am I FORCING my opinions on anyone? No more than you. I didn't knock on your door and preach to you, you read my comment of your own free will. There is nothing fascist about protecting life
VRCommy 11 months ago
Now, let's get a few things straight......
1. Yeah but we're not talking about the killing of another human being. We're talking about abortion.
2. Anti-abortionists force their opinions on everyone who is unfortunate enough to live in their jurisdiction through the repressive legislation that criminalises such a practice
3. What's "protecting life" got to do with it? I'm protecting the livelihood of anyone who has to deal with an unwanted pregnancy
CanberraUser 11 months ago
@CanberraUser 1. What is growing inside the mother if not another human being?
2. As I said: How am I FORCING an opinion on anyone?? I am saying what I think as you are. I didn't even say anyone has to agree with me. I'm not accusing you of forcing your opinion on anyone.. And I don't make the laws so don't blame me, write to a politician if you don't like it
3. Why is abortion the only "solution"?? If people took adequate precautions, at least 80% of "unwanted" pregnancies would be eliminated
VRCommy 11 months ago
1. It's not a human being it's a growth, it's nothing like when it comes out at 9 months. The definition of "human being" tends to get stretched on this point
2. You support such oppressive legislation where in force. I never said you make the rules, but you ADVOCATE such repression
3. Yeah but what about the other 20% ay?? People do take adequate precautions yet you still condemn them for fixing those unwanted pregnancies, no?
CanberraUser 11 months ago
@CanberraUser 1. Like I said, you are entitled to what you think and so am I, and I'm not going to try to convince you of anything...
2. Yes everyone has the right to support the laws they agree with be it guns, gay rights, fishing, immigration, etc. this is the beauty of living in a democracy.
3. 20% is better than 100%. My sister had an "accidental" pregnancy, and raised the child, & my niece is the most adorable kid, my sister can't imagine not having her in the world despite the hardship
VRCommy 11 months ago
My issue is this... Abortion is NOT a free choice for any woman. The very use of the word 'choice' is a bitter irony. What kind of society to we live in that coerces women into killing their own child.
2 of my good friends have had abortions, one of them still keeps the ultrasound photo of her 9 week old fetus in her wallet, the other has depression. Abortion is criminal because of the suffering inflicted on women and the taking of the human life in their womb. Abortion = 1 dead + 1 wounded.
naeontm 1 year ago
That's not altogether true. That "depression" and the "wounded" refers to the illusion that a "life has been taken". That illusion is due to belief rather than fact. Nobody dies in an abortion, unless the person having the abortion gets sick and dies.
CanberraUser 11 months ago
Why is it that because the child is inside its mother killing it is not criminal, but once outside to kill it is murder?
Abortion IS a crime, and the "doctors" who perform it should be charged as criminals. Women with problem pregnancies need help, not the blood of their own children.
Toribus 1 year ago
Fascist dictators like you who spin this propaganda have no place in the democratic world.
CanberraUser 11 months ago
@CanberraUser Ever think that Lefties make MUCH WORSE FASCISTS ? Cause people are not allowed freedom... It is not freedom to kill other people... no matter how much Gaffadi tells you it's cool.
valcarni1 11 months ago
Fascist dictators like you who spin this propaganda have no place in the democratic world.
CanberraUser 11 months ago
Yes @areyoulookinatmepal1, fetus' have a beating heart, however that alone does not confer them autonomous status.
EzraSmack 1 year ago
Why are all of these women so "short"?
YhanaSL 1 year ago
A "fetus" is not a "baby." A fetus only becomes a baby when it is born. It begins from day #1 and not before. Therefore the term 'killing a baby' is incorrect when applied to abortion.
EzraSmack 1 year ago
A fetus isn't a person until they're born. That is when life begins. Until that time, they are biologically part of the mother. Therefore abortion is not "murder," and there's no need for subjective emotional arguments from the anti-abortion lobby.
EzraSmack 1 year ago
@EzraSmack
is it not a living being,with a beating heart?i cant judge anyone.are you an animal lover,if so whats your favorite?
areyoulookinatmepal1 1 year ago
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EzraSmack 1 year ago
i dont believe women should be treated that way,here comes the but,i've seen to many women in the us using abortion like its birth control as if it were the pill,and partial birth abortion is the worst that a woman could do with an unborn hearting beating human thats not a little blob of flesh
areyoulookinatmepal1 1 year ago
If someone killed me, it would affect my family and friends, and as I know know, there is too much to look forward to and I have achieved too much in my life to let someone take it away. If someone was to kill me before I'm even aware I exist, before anyone builds any attachment to me, and before I even know what the world is, what's so immoral about that? Can someone tell me why an abortion is so horrible? Seriously, tell me.
BlarghMonsta 1 year ago
@BlarghMonsta
read my other comment before it's flagged off.i look at it like this,people blame God for not sending us someone to cure aids or cancer,but He said i did but you aborted them.this comment will be flagged off i'm sure.
areyoulookinatmepal1 1 year ago
@areyoulookinatmepal1
God sent AIDS to cure over population...
YhanaSL 1 year ago
To be honest i don't understand how women can be treated as criminals for an abortion. First of all there are reasons behind why a women would get an abortion and each one is looked at case by case not just because they wanted to get an abortion. Its usually thought out thoroughly beforehand discussed with a doctor and then the procedure is done. Killing something that has never felt or had feelings hardly seems unethical to me
smcin72 1 year ago
@smcin72 It has to do with the whole argument that it's still a living, breathing person, that it can feel and has felt emotions, so it's pretty much murder. I personally do think that an unborn child is capable of emotion and such, but I still agree with drealgrin, it's a last resort, not like someone wakes up and decides 'Hey, this abortion stuff sounds like fun'.
LadyLatias 1 year ago
YES! killing unborn babies is illegal in Queensland!
Anything wrong there?
Anything unethical?
SirDeliciously 1 year ago
I want to have an abortion but my boyfriend and I are having trouble conceiving.
mlawren7 1 year ago
If you dont want a child, dont get pregnant. It is really very simple.
All those of you using the raped woman argument..it accounts for less than 0.001% of the argument here, so kindly drop it. Babies can be fostered you know...NO NEED TO MURDER THEM.
GARETHMOCHAN 1 year ago
@GARETHMOCHAN Where'd you get that statistic?
gunne123 1 year ago
If you dont want a child, dont get pregnant. It is reallt very simple.
All those of you using the raped argument..it accounts dor less than 0.001% of the argument here sokindly drop it. Babies can be dostered you know...no need to murder them .
GARETHMOCHAN 1 year ago
Qld ALP policy platform states remove abortion from the 120year old Criminal code(that was repealed by Britain in 1967). Whatever the individual circumstances(it is not yours to judge), a woman's right to autonomous health decision must be provided along with all reproductive health choices, with respect and safety.
If MPs can't vote on their religious belief, and regard women as an offense against morality send it to the Law Reform Commission NOW!
JulieQ150 1 year ago
I hate it how pro abortion activists always through extremes and try to scare campaign people into thinking that all women considering abortions were raped therefore justifying there actions. it such a small % that its ridiculous.
All it does is distract people from the root of the problem, unwanted pregancnies, and yes in extreme cases, unreported rapes. in reported rape cases (early) Women have the option to take the morning after pill which guarantees no pregnancy. these stupid abortion
blaze3927 1 year ago
debates just continue to cloud the original cause of the problem, making it harder and harder for women to come out and talk.
who says that being adopted means you dont get a good start? and i'd prefer a bad start rather than be aborted and have no start at all. more interest/education in safe sex is going to be more beneficial than more debate on abortion.
blaze3927 1 year ago
@blaze3927
I agree Blaze.
Many children that have been adopted, have had good starts in life. I have a few very good friends who had been adopted out. These days going on the comments for abortion, these children would never have had a life.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@blaze3927 no form of birth control is 100% effective, not even the morning after pill. sometimes an abortion is the last resort.
MissCharmedOne 1 year ago
@MissCharmedOne yes i agree, but :
condom: 99%
pill: 99%
morning after pill: 99%
and if abortion was really ONLY used as the last resort then 90% of the women seeking abortion wouldnt exist.
blaze3927 1 year ago
@MissCharmedOne
No, abortion isnt the last resort, Fostering is the last resort!
Murdering a baby because you didnt plan for it is disgracefull.
GARETHMOCHAN 1 year ago
@GARETHMOCHAN first of all, it's not a baby, its a fetus. there is no point in bringing another baby in our already over populated world. if people want to adopt children, there are thousands of children in asia, living in orphanages in the worst conditions.
dont force your morals onto others. people should be given a choice.
MissCharmedOne 1 year ago
@MissCharmedOne Yes of course people have a choice, use birth control, its not difficult is it!?
If you do get pregnant then just get the baby adopted to one of the thousands of loving couples who cannot have children of their own. I understand you will be uncomfortable for 9 months but to murder an innocent because people didnt plan for a baby is beyond evil.
GARETHMOCHAN 1 year ago
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I used to be a member of GetUp until I realised they were just trying to convert people to the extreme Greens policies of death, porn & drugs! Leave babies & the elderly alone! don't you know the baby's heart starts beating at 24 Days! It's not your body, it's a separate human body within you! One that's depending on you to protect it! Stop being so selfish, so she's going to disrupt your life for 9 months, when she's born give her to one of the thousands who would desparately love to have her
dherr19 1 year ago
I used to be a member of GetUp until I realised they were just trying to convert people to the extreme Greens policies of death, porn & drugs! Leave babies & the elderly alone! don't you know the baby's heart starts beating at 24 Days! It's not your body, it's a separate human body within you! One that's depending on you to protect it! Stop being so selfish, so she's going to disrupt your life for 9 months, when she's born give her to one of the thousands who would desparately love to have her
dherr19 1 year ago
@dherr19
We will be adapting a society around the style of Hitler, that children are commodities, easily disposed of, rather than developing human beings in want of love and a developing life.
chavrons1 1 year ago
i hate this ad....
petachao1 1 year ago
This ad is very disappointing. Why not say "A man has just been put on trial in Sydney, because carjacking is a crime in NSW. When will the givernment stop treating men like criminals?" This ad uses the same emotionalist blurring of logic and fact that they are so happily critical of when banks or pollies do it.
mike40033 1 year ago
getupaustralia has lost my support. Abortion is the killing of a baby.
Keruaran 1 year ago
If you think that abortion should not be a crime, please watch the video "A Story About Life". I find hard to believe that this is happening in Australia.
theskurrie 1 year ago
abortion is not about killing babies, its about a basic human right - the right to control one's body.
the couble who were recently on trial were not performing a typical 'backyard abortion'. they used a drug called RU-486, a pill that is considered more safer than the 'normal' abortive surgery. i's not that different to the morning after pill- however it can be used safely and effectively up to 9 weeks of gestation.
MissCharmedOne 1 year ago
@MissCharmedOne
So you believe that a foetus at six weeks isn't a human life ??
That it's okay to destroy it and not allowed him or her to be born in this life ??
This couple obviously were living together, when ever is the time right to have a child in their case. When does one toss up when is the best time to have a baby ?? Get rid of one, then have another one later on when it suits them ??
chavrons1 1 year ago
@chavrons1 i remember exactly whether or not they were living together, but it doesn't really make a difference either way.
some people may not be emotionally or financially ready to have a baby. like i said before, it's their choice.
i personally believe that abortion before the 6th week of gestation is ok (because the 6th week is when the baby begins developing their nervous systems and they could probably feel pain) but other people have different beliefs and i respect that and u should too
MissCharmedOne 1 year ago
Yes - Women should just have babies instead of abortions, then the children can grow up drug addicts or be abused in situations where the mother knew it wasn't ideal to have a child. Christians are creepy.
suibhnetasmania 1 year ago
I am pro choice and pro life, enough said. Nobody has the right to judge why these women made that choice, it was theirs to make, not anyone elses.
I do think it isn't right to take anothers life from them, but I also think that sometimes, it's nessessary.
LadyLatias 1 year ago 5
@LadyLatias I'm right with you.
It varies from case to case!
First, nobody has the right to say that a woman must have a baby.
On the other hand, if she knows she's pregnant and wants an abortion, she should really get in as soon as possible to prevent the foetus from developing too much.
lloveyouu 1 year ago
@LadyLatias that statement is an oxymoron if you really think that the life a women is carrying is a baby then by your moralising the womans choice would lead to killing. We have laws that dosnt even let this happen to animals wtf
fotizome 6 months ago
@fotizome ...Actually, this does happen to animals. A lot of animals in shelters are put down if they cannot be adopted out after a period of time. The shelters simply do not have the funds or space to care for them anymore.
LadyLatias 6 months ago
Wow... so many "pro-lifers" commenting here.
If all life should be respected does that not mean we should also respect the women? Or are we just rooting for the underdog no matter what?
RichardForkins 1 year ago 2
Abortion is wrong.... by having an abortion a women is deciding that the child which she conceived life is worthless.
Abortion is murder and i am disgusted that anyone would support this horrible commercial.
Nobody should have the right to take a life of another.
Setapart164 1 year ago
@Setapart164
Quite a number of countries have a death penalty. They are also, effectively 'taking the life of another'.
As LadyLatias said, you have absolutely no place to judge a woman's motives. I've never heard of a woman getting an abortion because she got high on the feeling of killing. I have, on the other hand, heard of rape victims and women who simply didn't have the means to give a child the best chance in the world, going through the trauma of having an adoption.
Stop judging them.
lloveyouu 1 year ago
@lloveyouu The death penalty is also wrong.
I am not judging a women's motives that is not my place. I am simply defending those who can not defend themselves. I sympathise with those women who have an unwanted pregnancy from rape but that is never the child's fault, so why should the child die!! If a women can not support a child they should not have sex. Adoption is not a bad thing it is a way of giving a family who long for a child a chance to have that!
Setapart164 1 year ago
@Setapart164
So you think that when a girl is raped, after all the anguish she deals with from the rape itself, that she then must have her rapist's baby and be happy to raise it?
Sex isn't something that someone plans, and to abstain until you're ready to have a child is completely unrealistic.
You can't possibly believe that every child who is put up for adoption is actually adopted. These children, adopted or not, are deprived of what every child deserves, a good start into the world.
lloveyouu 1 year ago 19
@lloveyouu I said that she could give it up for adoption.... it is not the baby's fault that it was concieved in such a terrible way..Why should the child die because the father is a pig....Sure not every child is adopted but it is better then killing them.
And why is not realistic to wait until you are ready to have a child to have sex.??? Sex is not necessary believe it or not.
Setapart164 1 year ago
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@Setapart164
What next, are you going to say that people shouldn't use birth control pills because they are missing the opportunity to possibly have a child which could do good in the world? If people waited until they were ready for children to have sex the world would be a VERY different place. Definitely not practical.
lloveyouu 1 year ago
@Setapart164 Because some people don't want kids? Because sex is a natural human urge? The intimacy, the pure rush of it... we're a horrible species. ._.
LadyLatias 1 year ago
@LadyLatias when someone is having sex they are aware that there is a possibility that they will get pregnant. having sex when you are not willing to have a child is irresponsible and selfish. Have your tubes ties or something if you don't want kids that badly. Don't kill them because you could not resist your urges...... you do not have to have sex.
Setapart164 1 year ago
@lloveyouu
In situations such as rape, abortion would then be between the doctor and referred surgeon.
I don't believe it should be made easy for a developing child, to be easy to be got rid of. This couple who aborted their child, said they weren't ready for one. When is the right time ??
When they have a 400,000 house, when they have grown tired of nightclubbing.
When can a child decide to abort their parents.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@lloveyouu actually the number of parents looking to adopt a child far exceeds the number of children up for adoption.
CptCoolXD 1 year ago
@lloveyouu Yes. Absolutely, sex isn't something that somebody plans, that's why there's modalities to prevent conception. Also, your remarks about adoption propel one notion: it's OK to terminate a genetic code's potential to experience life because he/she may be deprived of a good child hood . I'm not sure about you, but as a former fetus, I certainly wouldn't want you to be making that decision for me. I'd rather be brought up in an orphanage for 10 years of my life than be terminated early on
Niacinimide 10 months ago
@Niacinimide "I'd rather be brought up in an orphanage for 10 years of my life than be terminated early on"
But what if you had a gentic defect that meant you would be born deaf and blind..
badpanda84 7 months ago
@lloveyouu what a load of B.S the rape arguement is when it in reality counts for less than 1% of the abortion numbers around Australia. Don't make silly pro choice excuses like that, they dont hold weight
fotizome 6 months ago
@Setapart164 OK - I cannot tell from your YouTube name whether u are man or woman, but just consider...
You are a woman, you get raped (brutal violence may be involved, and often is), and you fall pregnant to your rapist...
What do you do?
Just asking
Joshua001A 1 year ago
Between 1985 and 1997 there were more than 140,000 abortions in QLD alone. Is that not enough for you pro-murdering douchebags?
harbingerofstorms 1 year ago
Gee - what a waste of money and life. I can't believe the bald faced sophistry of this production. It's fine and dandy for them to speak up and organise politically - I'm all for that - but what of those little ones who can't raise money and design ads: why are they executed as if they were criminals? Do people still fall for this kind of propaganda? Why not just show pictures of babies, first with hook noses, then cut to swarms of rats scurrying over one another. GitUp is a joke.
stmartin17773 1 year ago
Just as Martin Bryant's choice to murder 35 people wasnt a crime. Stupid ad is stupid.
harbingerofstorms 1 year ago 2
It has been said once before break the law accept the recoarse. The discription says 90% believe early term abortion is acceptable. What was the exact question asked i wonder?? Do you believe woman should be able to abbort an embryo that has a bad medical condition or in the case of rape?? Do you believe that a woman should be able to abbort an embryo in the early stages for any reason she deems fit?? There are already provisions in aus for a woman to have an abortion for medical reasons..
crypticphill 1 year ago
Abortion is a tragic end to a baby's life on earth. Why is it so hard to use bloody contraception when having sex?
djyk777 1 year ago
At the heart of the abortion debate is the question of when does human life begin. I believe it is the earliest of 1. The parents especially the mother recognises her pregnancy as a wanted child OR the baby can reasonably survive outside of the womb. Women should always be free to choose what to do with their bodies and not be dictated to by self righteous males (or females).
millertas 1 year ago
To all those against abortions, do you foster someone's unwanted or abused child? Do you help a family who has a child with a disability? Help in crisis counseling?
Before you stand in judgment of a woman who makes the hardest decision in her life, think, and I mean really think of what that child and their family's life will be like.
wildmillie 1 year ago
In this day and age, abortion seems to be the way forward. Although being humanitarian has made me feel against the early short-cut of unborn life, as a liberalist, it seems that we should remove archaic laws in favour of contemporary ones. Abortion should be allowed BUT only under special and specific circumstances (such as unwanted teen pregnancies and the like). Abortion should only be a last resort if no future situations would allow for the welfare of the baby to be top priority.
KaleunMaender77 1 year ago
oh just look at those poor women they're all like "it's not a crime to kill a baby at 25 weeks with a coat hanger if I feel like it"
luke666808g 1 year ago
@luke666808g they are actors since that is an ad.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
abortion perfectly reasonable if it was a rape or the mothers life is threatened by the pregnancy...
other wise your decision should be before you get pregnant NOT to get pregnant CONDOMS, BIRTH CONTROL PILLS, PLAN B PILLS and not having sex
Leadman1989 1 year ago
@Leadman1989
Open your eyes to the real world, instead of your ideal fantasy land.
anguscole2 1 year ago
@anguscole2
and what would my ideal fantasy land be SINCE YOU KNOW ME SO WELL...
Leadman1989 1 year ago
@Leadman1989 that's right, because people always carry condoms, condoms never break, people never vomit the morning after pill, chemists (drugstores) are always open when you need them, and abstinence is an effective form of birth control. Unfortunately, accidents happen, and abortion is the ONLY resort after 72hrs.
charbonou2 1 year ago
@charbonou2
is it to much to ask a sexually active person to carry a condom? really? condoms break yeah and if your not ready for a baby (male OR female) maybe you shouldn't be having sex you know the thing that makes babies... if you're sexually active there's no excuse not to have those things BEFORE hand
abstinence IS (unfortunately) the only 100% form of birth control and std control
abortion should be a last resort no something people turn to to sherk responsibility
Leadman1989 1 year ago
@Leadman1989 I'm not suggesting people shouldn't use birth control, simply that no birth control is 100% effective, even when used in combination with other forms (eg pill + condoms). Of course prevention is better than cure, but it doesn't always work. Abortion IS a last resort. I don't know ANY woman who would choose an abortion over not getting pregnant in the first place.
As for abstinence and not having sex until you're ready for a baby... good luck with that one.
charbonou2 1 year ago
@charbonou2
it's NOT a last resort a last resort is when you have no other option... it is just seen as apart of birth control which it shouldn't be... if you weren't raped and you're going to have a relatively healthy (i say relative because no all pregnancies are risky but some more than others) and safe pregnancy then abortion should NOT be an option
BUT if it's an atopic pregnancy or RAPE then only a heartless MONSTER would deny them that ability
i see myse