God bless Ron Paul, this man will get my vote no matter what the GOP does, I am writing him in, and suggest all patriots do the same.
Watch Bill Stills "The Money Masters" (available free - it's a 3 hr video on youtube & google... 15th most watched documentary in the history of the internet).
+1 for using the "Hijacking the state" concept regarding Ron Paul.
You shouldn't vote for people because of ideology. If you really want to promote a safer, more prosperous, and more moral world, then only support candidates for public office who wish to join the government to get the government to work against its goals.
Paul, of course, is the most prominent example of this.
"These ideas...that have liberated our minds...it would have taken me a lot longer...so Thank you, Ron Paul." Lovely. Lovely of Ron Paul to care enough to spread his ideas, and lovely of Ali to realize and appreciate his help.
Search YouTube for "Ron Paul Estonia" - most of the people there (there are only few there I admit :-) are ancaps. I'm an ancap and I support Ron Paul
It bothers me when anarchists and voluntarists condescend to the idea of supporting Ron Paul. If it weren't for the fact that Ron Paul stayed in the 2008 election for so long, I wouldn't be an anarchist today. He's like the gateway drug to anarchism. His campaign is the best thing to happen to the libertarian movement in decades...perhaps ever. Ron Paul 2012!!!
It bothers me when anarchists and voluntarists condescend to the idea of supporting Ron Paul. If it weren't for the fact that Ron Paul stayed in the 2008 election for so long, I wouldn't be an anarchist today. He's like the gateway drug to anarchism. His campaign is the best thing to happen to the libertarian movement in decades...perhaps ever. Ron Paul 2012!!!
I'm a voluntaryist, and I support Ron Paul. I stopped voting years ago, as I firmly believe that voting is implicit acceptance of whatever system into which one casts one's vote. However, this year, I will make an exception for Ron Paul if allowed. It was his candidacy that drew me to libertarianism in 1988 before I was even an adult, so just to honor that, it's worth pulling the lever, so to speak.
However, I agree with many here that eliminating the state with the state is a pipe dream.
all paulist geniuses who're fond of noting the problem of unintended consequences should direct some of that scrutiny toward the farcical myth of sunny days under the benign non-dictator dictator ronald P fuzzlwihtz. the formula appears to be that congress, CIA, fibbies, "DHS", etc., and the overwhelming horde of couch potato statists, are clay, to be molded and used as passive chess pieces.
yeah, that's never not worked before. you are obeying while pretending to not.
Check out my videos "Ron Paul is a Voluntarist" and "Where Do Ron Paul's Ideas Come From?" for more reasons to believe that Ron is truly a voluntarist and that his overall strategy is as you so eloquently describe it here.
I am a voluntaryist and I support Ron Paul. While I do not think politics can be used as a method to eliminate the state nor that Ron Paul will work miracles in office like some people believe, I do think he can reduce some of the governments choke hold in the present time. He will try to stop the wars, reduce the debt, eliminate the war on drugs, etc, all of which increase liberty at least for a little while.
@mmeziere I agree on all that, except this. I think that politics is the only way to get to a point where people (en masse) would be comfortable with eliminating the state. Politics - specifically the move towards a Constitutional minarchist state - is an important step. I'm not sure I agree on whether a minimalist state is not necessary, but that debate, I think, can only truly happen if the "mainstream" is already at minimization of the state. I think only a gradual transition will work.
you sickening dumbshits. using the "logic" of this video, i'm wondering what great strides could be made for liberty if ron paul raped a celebrity on video while shouting "end the fed". he'd really get "the message" "out there".
@2ndAsstJizzMopper With your logic, we should just not do anything. Lie down and take tyranny up the ass - or die in a vain attempt to fight them off, without using their own structure to try and make that unnecessary. Face it - the ideas of anarcho-capitalism, confined to a small group of people following the ideas of Mises and Rothbard, will never eliminate the state alone. People not only disagree, but refuse to listen - and Paul is the only hope we really have of changing that.
@mtanousable, when you've eliminated the state via the state, i'll renounce the observation that, like nearly every wool-dyed paulboy, you're executing the silliest false dillema fallacy, positing that my logic holds that there are only two options: accept tyranny, or accept the disgusting hypocrite and career statist/highwayman ron paul, who's prominent ONLY via the state.
BTW, the state crumbling temporarily through incompetence doesn't count as liberty arriving via the state.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper I'm not talking about eliminating the state via the state. I'm talking about SHRINKING the state, so that the average, rather uninformed, citizen can be far more easily convinced of why we don't need the state. When the state is peeled back, layer by layer, the argument of "we need the government to do X" starts to fall apart. I think you will never succeed in convincing enough people to overthrow (necessarily violently) the bloated state entirely all at once.
mtanousable, okay, let me know when you've shrunk the state -- not a blip fart -- via the state.
"convincing enough people to overthrow (necessarily violently) the bloated state entirely all at once."
whew! good thing i've not proposed that, error of your "violently" aside.
the overriding, long term effect of ron paul the career hypocrite will be credulity for the state. yes, i know some are led to voluntarism through exposure to ronald fuzzlwahtz, as some are led to firefighting through arson.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper What, then, are you advocating - or are you just a blithering idiot. Don't vote for small government candidates, because states aren't any better than the Feds. Don't overthrow the statist tyrants (which would have to be violent because they WON'T JUST LET YOU DO THAT). So what? Just suffer through it, without fighting back at all? The state already has credulity, much as you might hate that. Your approach - which you are still vague about - will be ineffectual AT BEST.
mtanousable, bad news, but you don't get to throw out repeated fallacies, then in reply to their deflection ASK me what i'm advocating and -- in the same fucking comment -- tell me that what i'm supposedly advocating (yeah, that thing you just asked me about) is ineffectual and i'm being vague about it. vague?! ha! i haven't said what i'm advocating. can understand a colossal transmit-only puke not reading what i wrote, but at least read what you're writing.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper You have repeatedly said that what I think you are trying to say is wrong - which is vaguely saying "I'm advocating something, but it isn't that - that's stupid". Fine. Tell me what the fuck makes my statements "fallacies". Tell me what the hell you are saying should be done to reel in and/or eliminate the state. IMO, it's people like you that are the problem. Complaining about tyranny but doing nothing but pissing off those that agree about the problem.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper Fine, I will. You can't have a debate if your only responses amount to the word "wrong". Tell me WHY I'm wrong, and what you think is right, or you just look like an ass anyway. Not voting because it gives credibility to the system only makes sense if you can convince EVERYONE to stop voting - an impossibility as long as people are indoctrinated in government schools. If that isn't what you are advocated, at least tell me what the hell you ARE advocating.
mtanousable, send up a flare when you write asking to know what i advocate, while not criticizing in the same paragraph what you've assumed i advocate. would also be nice if you didn't add in a bunch of other bullshit in the same miraculous comment.
BTW, fuck, no one must provide a solution just because he notes disastrous perpetual failure in "here's a great idea" noobs. to begin, the existence of a liberty solution, from whatever source, must not be presumed -- especially in 500-char blocks.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper What is your problem,listen to what he is saying and see if you can really understand. Why do the veterans overwhelmingly support Ron Paul?
@maximumfullpower before researching Ron Paul's background, I would've agreed w/ this sentiment. But now I say "bullshit," Ron Paul is the real deal. A crooked person wouldn't work in a hospital for only $3 an hour. A crooked person wouldn't treat poor women for free in his own clinic. A crooked person wouldn't instill the same values in their children; children that have est'd free clinics and go around to impoverished areas of the world doing the same and providing care.
@maximumfullpower You must not have looked deeply into Dr. Paul's history. He is not just another crooked politician. He is not like Mitt Romney whose campaign contributors are big banks. He wants to allow individuals the right to make their own decisions. Abolish the IRS. End the FED. He believes that mandatory taxation is theft; a belief that all real voluntarists should hold. The just authority of government is obtained by consent of the governed. We must defend liberty!
@maximumfullpower This gut trolls all liberty channels, dont worry about convincing him. He needs alot of attention and he cant get it in the real world, so he trolls cop block, free keene and ridley report. Dont be mad at him, just feel bad. LOL!
Evil can only serve evil, you cannot join the mafia and legitimately believe that you are doing good if you reduce theft by 30% 40% even 99% since you are still in charge and responsible for whatever evil remains.
Also consider the economic crash ahead of us as a people. Once the dollar collapses and millions of people begin to suffer, the last thing I want is a libertarian to be in office so all the control freaks can blame freedom as the cause of the problem.
@networkedfreedom couldn't disagree with you more. The fast edits are used to plant messages subconsciously. It has worked amazingly well for the jews that run the media in dumbing people down (think MTV). If the same technique can be used for smarting people up, then great.
The message in this video is true. Supporting Ron Paul isn't about "working within the system", it's about showing the world that people support the philosophy of liberty. If it wasn't for my friend telling me about Ron Paul, I doubt I'd be where I'm at today (an anarcho-capitalist).
We discussed this tonight at the Keene Activity Center but essentially what I'd say is that if one doesn't have moral qualms with supporting RP then the question of return still remains.
Has RP had an impact? Without question. But could the resources directed toward him, if used elsewhere, have had a bigger impact?
I say strike the root. We won't get there until that's what's advocated.
@PeteEyre You are right that we we shouldn't see Paul as an end goal. But it's important to note that people are ALREADY paying attention to this presidential election,(as gross a thing as we understand elections are.) And YOUNG people too, and any of them who hear about Ron Paul will have this legitimacy confirming to the voice in the back of their head that says "war is immoral, drug war is immoral..." He's in a suit, he's running for "president". That makes a big difference
@alistairproductions So what happens if he takes power and he fails to do what he promised to do like every other politician who came before him? What will that mean for the cause of "liberty" with "their guy" fucking up?
@juliaisafilmbuff123 I'm optimistic about what might change if Paul elected, I've donated $240 because I want him up there talking about liberty for as long as possible... But I am not counting on him being the "change we can believe in". In public school "running for president" means something real big, right? So these kids probably know morality on a deeper level under all the brainwashing right.. that they aren't supposed to recognize or feel comfortable with... (cont.)
@juliaisafilmbuff123 So what happens if he doesn't take power and the politician who takes the Presidency continues the same policies of war, welfare, and tyranny like all other politicians who came before them? What will that mean for the cause of "liberty" with an ensured fuck-up fucking up even further?
@juliaisafilmbuff123 (2) but then theres this man who is "running for president" who affirms everything they've felt was only okay to have buried somewhere in the back of their head. And then they learn "only individuals have rights!" "We're all Austrians now!", "I believe in voluntarism".. The degree to which he can "fix the system". That's just silly, the system cannot be fixed... but maybe he'll buy us some time before the system completely tumbles lol Is that possible?
I like some of the words he says, but I don't like what he is, which is a politician. A politician speaking out against government coercion is like a wolf in sheep's clothing talking about vegetarianism. I don't trust him. I'm an anti-aggressionist, and I oppose all candidates seeking the highest office in the #1 threat to freedom and liberty in this country.
@PluralOfEverything You don't have to trust him, but if you don't do something and leave it to the other gangsters running for president, there will be even more blood on our hands, and your analogies in the youtube comment section won't do any good to explain why we let this country take a widow's husband and family away forever. That's what we are facing. They are beating the drums, and all this abstract philosophy about anarchy is moot when we have 1.2 billion Muslims calling for our blood.
@VictoryInTruth You've fallen for the propaganda about muslims. Going along with a corrupt system because of some imaginary enemy overseas is just what they want. The enemy is the state, and voting only legitimizes its power. A withheld vote is a vote for there to be no president. It's the vote that most people cast, and it's time it was counted.
@PluralOfEverything I used to repeat those same things when I was an anarchist. I'm sorry but Muslims are not imaginary, and neither are their losses. I find it offensive that you can continue to say these things like its just an abstraction. Voting is an endorsement of ideas, and ideas don't travel very far without the right vehicle. Nobody believes all the withheld votes in this country are acts of rebellion. They are acts of complacency, and the end result is people will die (again).
@VictoryInTruth You are quite simply (and clearly) wrong. Obviously, muslims are not imaginary, but the hordes of them who are out to kill americans because we're supposedly free are imaginary.
How can you say that nobody believes something that I just said that I believe? I'm not alone either, as much as you'd like me to be. The only people who actually want there to be a president are the ones who go out and vote for one. Nobody else wants to be a part of the system.
@PluralOfEverything I never said they attack us because we're free, if you spent more time reading & understanding what I'm saying than repeating anarchist platitudes, you would realize how foolish your comment is. They attack us because we attack them, and you're too busy thumbing your nose up at "politics" to try to stop it. Its a disgrace. You have the luxury of being an "anarchist" in America, but you still pay into the system that ravages families with military adventurism.
@VictoryInTruth "We" don't attack them. "They" attack them. Now it sounds like you've given up arguing against what I've been saying, and you've moved on to attacking me. The military is run by a government that hurts people to get what it wants. To hurt people to get what one wants is immoral and should be stopped. No one who wants to be the leader of this immoral institution should be supported with a vote.
@PluralOfEverything How can you even claim to be against violence when you won't even try to stop it when an opportunity presents itself? I just don't get it. War with Iran is a foregone conclusion unless Ron Paul's influence reaches enough people. Terrorists don't care if you're an "anarchist". They will fucking gut you. And for what? So you could preach on youtube? Ridiculous. If you think people who don't cast their votes are doing so in rebellion, then apathy is revolution. Fat. Chance.
@PluralOfEverything Not anymore than somebody selling a cult on youtube. Anarchy is a brand like anything else. Either you care about saving lives, or you don't. Personally, I'm interested in saving my own life, and that interest is best served by NOT allowing the country I call home to invade, occupy, and destroy a nation of 74 million Shia Muslims who already have a bone to pick with us. The idea that you can separate yourself from the government should have been DEBUNKED on 9/11.
@VictoryInTruth Ron Paul cannot protect you from terrorists, and I am not convinced that he has any intention of trying. No candidate wants what they say they want. They want only to expand the power of the government, and they will say whatever they have to to get your consent. Your channel says that you want government to be restricted. That's what I want, but I'm not convinced of your sincerity if you expect the government to restrict itself. We have to restrict it.
@PluralOfEverything He can't protect us from terrorists, but he can stop new terrorists from coming about. You can plug your ears & pretend not to hear anything, but Ron Paul's reputation speaks for itself. We have to restrict it, so how do you do it? Have you shot the tax collectors yet? I'm doubtful. We have the information tools to know who is serious, there is no better time than now. If your attitude is that only an anarchist philosopher/outsider can do this, there is no chance of winning.
@VictoryInTruth I don't have to plug my ears in order to hear nothing when a politician speaks. Everyone but you knows that their job is to lie. To desire the top office in an organization that claims the right to hurt people is evil. To accept a salary paid with extortion money is evil. Ron Paul is not a good person. No presidential candidate is.
@PluralOfEverything You hear nothing because you programmed yourself not to listen. A side effect of anarchy is thinking in absolutes. I can hear pretty well too, but let me tell you where I hear a whole lot of nothing; from somebody who says that voting-abstinence works. Part of absolutist thinking is equating Ron Paul's desire for the top office as a function of his desire to hurt people or steal money. Either you haven't thought that out -on your own-, or you're making that claim dishonestly.
@VictoryInTruth You hear something because you've programmed yourself to believe lies. A side effect of statism is gullibility.
Do you deny that the president is responsible for stealing money and hurting people? Some things are absolutely true, like thieves steal and murderers kill. I won't signify my consent by casting a vote for which terrorist is the least evil even if they say exactly what I want to hear.
@PluralOfEverything Who is lying to themself when they automatically make assumptions about people being liars? Do you think you can just casually slander people? Don't make unfounded claims unless you got the paperwork.
The president is going to steal and hurt people regardless. Let me put it to you this way. Vladmir is 30 days from razing your city. There is an election in 7 days. The peace candidate is making his case. People are listening. Maybe Russians should stay home as a "protest".
@PluralOfEverything The amount of theft and murder that is decreased by changing policy is far greater than sitting where you are, fooling yourself into believing most of soft-socialist America doesn't vote because its a "protest", and thinking that you are accomplishing what you set out to do. I don't know what your priorities are, but it sounds like you are trying weave your way around the obvious in order to sound consistent to yourself. You want anarchy for the sake of how much you invested.
if you are a POLITICIAN and tax me no service for you, if you fund wars with my tax dollars no service, if you pass a law that take freedoms from me no service, if you punish voluntary trade or action no service, take your business else where. if you make it so politicians can't get service or goods, they will be unwelcome in their own state and country soon we will be much freer for it. Ron Paul is a statesmen, not a politician.
I have Michael badnarik to thank for bringing be to the voluntaryist light this is how Americans should vote with their property rights guns and association if you use political association in business to refuse service, and make coalitions to elect people ending the 2 party tyranny, we can start to fix this country ending the unmoral initiation of force must be are highest goal
I like how people complain about the constitution. Look, I get it, you guys are cool and edgy, but cut the crap. If you think you can sit around on the corners of youtube and not vote and make a difference, have fun explaining to your children how you didn't even attempt to stop this country from killing millions of people in Iran because you didn't "agree" to the constitution. Or maybe when your child is a casualty of blowback, you'll reconsider your position.
@VictoryInTruth Yeah, I'll be sure to tell my children how I spent 20 minutes writing shit on a piece of paper pretending it was significant because I bought into the allure of voting. And how I threw away my college money to some politician who had no chance of winning because he was old, had a stutter, and most people thought he was batshit crazy. I'm sure my children will be inspired by such great decision making.
@TehBANN3D I wish you would throw away your college money because you clearly haven't used it to educate yourself. You might think you can sit around and WHINE to get things done, but guess what, your leaders will be chosen for you if you abstain, whether you like it or not. I mean let's be honest, in the off chance someone as irresponsible as you has children, when they become adults and realize you allowed tools like Romney to go unchallenged, they will probably shit on your sorry grave.
@VictoryInTruth I'm majoring in engineering. People who spend money on political educations are worthless. And who said I whine? The fact is, my standard of living is high enough that I don't really give two fucks what the government does. I'm not planning on staying in the US anyways so these people can elect whoever the fuck they want. And if I were to stay in the US I would like to have a job in research, so I'll be voting for whoever is going to give me the most grant money.
@TehBANN3D So you have too much money to care, but you're willing to vote for whoever will shuffle borrowed money around for your personal benefit... If there was ever a better description of what is wrong with American politics, I have yet to hear it. It makes sense why you wouldn't like Paul at this point.
@VictoryInTruth That's how democracy works. I get to help choose a guy to take other people's money for my own selfish gain and the vast majority of people are fine with it. Granted, a single vote is statistically insignificant so voting isn't really that beneficial. However, using political activism and rhetoric to convince the weak minded masses to vote for my paycheck is something I have no problem with, as long as it doesn't cost too much of my time.
@TehBANN3D That's great, I'm glad you feel that way, because this country is changing to root out people like yourself and make you pay your own way. If Ron gets his way, maybe you'll see how much you're really worth.
@plzenjoymybigolpenis k. you be sure to let your kids know what a great use of time and resources it was supporting a candidate who has no feasible chance of being elected or affecting any disciplined governmental change. I'll be teaching my kids that the only reason for engaging in the massive hoax that is democracy is to bend the minds of the weak and seize wealth and power.
@TehBANN3D The reason things are the way they are is because of people like you. I look forward to meeting you on the battlefield.
Your description of the situation is accurate, but you may not want to be teaching your kids that in a time when many are starting to realize the hoax. They may end up dead by some people who do not enjoy being enslaved.
I feel people like you take that attitude because it makes you feel better about your dependence.
@bryphi77 I have this attitude because I realize how inept the majority of people are, and how easy it is to scam them into robbing each other blind for your own personal benefit. All politicians and lobbyists implicitly realize this as well because it has been their life's goal to work as social parasites. And I highly doubt that we will see a revolution within our life time. If we do I'm sure it will be very successful against the most technologically superior military in the world.
Actually I'm not even sure Ron Paul believe in the constitution, when asked about voluntaryist communities he said it's fine and these are his principles. He might be an anarchist in the closet.
was with RP in 80s/helped bring lots 2 movement-some 2 total anarchy/Thought last primary was my last/decided its not right 2 help bring DrRP + some of his supporters this far + then just throw them aside/DrRP + his supporters are presently continuing 2 wake up + educate more people than just about ALL other activists COMBINED/encourage all who vote 2 vote 4 DrRPl/endorse DrRP in state primaries + caucuses/encourage EVERYONE 2 NOT VOTE IF Dr. RPis not a declared candidate in the general election
@PeacefulAssemblyChur Read the writings of Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Goldman, Tucker, Berkman, de Cleyre, all those people, and you'll see what I mean.
he's clearly the only choice for moral people who believe in voting. out of any person who has ever run for office, he's the only one i'd trust to let in my front door.
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Yeah, they keep saying that, but RP is on the rise. One thing I wonder is whether those numbers are based ONLY on registered Republican voters. If that's true, then a massive turn out for RP by independent would totally upset those numbers. Over 45% of NH is registered as independent. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS That's what people were saying four years ago when the FSP was just making its mark in NH: oh, you can't trust the polls because all these young people and independents aren't being polled or go to vote last minute. I'll wait until after the primary.
In all fairness, the US constitution really isn't all that liberty-oriented. Watch Michael Parenti's talk on the myth of the founding fathers to get a good insight.
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NWOsupportersRdbags 1 day ago
shes on the list now!
Girls4RonPaul 6 days ago
She's cute
biggrex 1 week ago
Ron Paul knew Murray Rothbard, and because of Paul, more people are reading Rothbard. Why wouldn't Voluntaryists want such a man in the white house?
VolkOseba 2 weeks ago
I love you Ali!
dyne313 3 weeks ago
i really dont know how mike shanklin cant support ron paul
wiecek13 3 weeks ago
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God bless Ron Paul, this man will get my vote no matter what the GOP does, I am writing him in, and suggest all patriots do the same.
Watch Bill Stills "The Money Masters" (available free - it's a 3 hr video on youtube & google... 15th most watched documentary in the history of the internet).
lastdaysguitar 1 month ago
+1 for using the "Hijacking the state" concept regarding Ron Paul.
You shouldn't vote for people because of ideology. If you really want to promote a safer, more prosperous, and more moral world, then only support candidates for public office who wish to join the government to get the government to work against its goals.
Paul, of course, is the most prominent example of this.
ninetales1234 1 month ago
Watch and see what you think....
TheRedwoodsman 1 month ago
she's hot and go Ron Paul!!!
MrDeejayjfx 1 month ago 3
"These ideas...that have liberated our minds...it would have taken me a lot longer...so Thank you, Ron Paul." Lovely. Lovely of Ron Paul to care enough to spread his ideas, and lovely of Ali to realize and appreciate his help.
givebirthathome 1 month ago
I'm surprised the occupy cops haven't beat Ron Paul with their liberty suppressing night sticks.
Junky53 1 month ago
Ron Paul is the new Beatles all in one
thewayaround123 1 month ago
Search YouTube for "Ron Paul Estonia" - most of the people there (there are only few there I admit :-) are ancaps. I'm an ancap and I support Ron Paul
paulvahur 1 month ago
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It bothers me when anarchists and voluntarists condescend to the idea of supporting Ron Paul. If it weren't for the fact that Ron Paul stayed in the 2008 election for so long, I wouldn't be an anarchist today. He's like the gateway drug to anarchism. His campaign is the best thing to happen to the libertarian movement in decades...perhaps ever. Ron Paul 2012!!!
soulshaker123 1 month ago
It bothers me when anarchists and voluntarists condescend to the idea of supporting Ron Paul. If it weren't for the fact that Ron Paul stayed in the 2008 election for so long, I wouldn't be an anarchist today. He's like the gateway drug to anarchism. His campaign is the best thing to happen to the libertarian movement in decades...perhaps ever. Ron Paul 2012!!!
soulshaker123 1 month ago
I'm a voluntaryist, and I support Ron Paul. I stopped voting years ago, as I firmly believe that voting is implicit acceptance of whatever system into which one casts one's vote. However, this year, I will make an exception for Ron Paul if allowed. It was his candidacy that drew me to libertarianism in 1988 before I was even an adult, so just to honor that, it's worth pulling the lever, so to speak.
However, I agree with many here that eliminating the state with the state is a pipe dream.
notticus 1 month ago
all paulist geniuses who're fond of noting the problem of unintended consequences should direct some of that scrutiny toward the farcical myth of sunny days under the benign non-dictator dictator ronald P fuzzlwihtz. the formula appears to be that congress, CIA, fibbies, "DHS", etc., and the overwhelming horde of couch potato statists, are clay, to be molded and used as passive chess pieces.
yeah, that's never not worked before. you are obeying while pretending to not.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
Great video, you are absolutely right.
Check out my videos "Ron Paul is a Voluntarist" and "Where Do Ron Paul's Ideas Come From?" for more reasons to believe that Ron is truly a voluntarist and that his overall strategy is as you so eloquently describe it here.
grahampwright 1 month ago 3
I am a voluntaryist and I support Ron Paul. While I do not think politics can be used as a method to eliminate the state nor that Ron Paul will work miracles in office like some people believe, I do think he can reduce some of the governments choke hold in the present time. He will try to stop the wars, reduce the debt, eliminate the war on drugs, etc, all of which increase liberty at least for a little while.
mmeziere 1 month ago
@mmeziere I agree on all that, except this. I think that politics is the only way to get to a point where people (en masse) would be comfortable with eliminating the state. Politics - specifically the move towards a Constitutional minarchist state - is an important step. I'm not sure I agree on whether a minimalist state is not necessary, but that debate, I think, can only truly happen if the "mainstream" is already at minimization of the state. I think only a gradual transition will work.
mtanousable 1 month ago
liberty via the state. yayyyy!
you sickening dumbshits. using the "logic" of this video, i'm wondering what great strides could be made for liberty if ron paul raped a celebrity on video while shouting "end the fed". he'd really get "the message" "out there".
ron paul, the 2010$3M+ bandit. yayyy! ron paul!
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper With your logic, we should just not do anything. Lie down and take tyranny up the ass - or die in a vain attempt to fight them off, without using their own structure to try and make that unnecessary. Face it - the ideas of anarcho-capitalism, confined to a small group of people following the ideas of Mises and Rothbard, will never eliminate the state alone. People not only disagree, but refuse to listen - and Paul is the only hope we really have of changing that.
mtanousable 1 month ago
@mtanousable, when you've eliminated the state via the state, i'll renounce the observation that, like nearly every wool-dyed paulboy, you're executing the silliest false dillema fallacy, positing that my logic holds that there are only two options: accept tyranny, or accept the disgusting hypocrite and career statist/highwayman ron paul, who's prominent ONLY via the state.
BTW, the state crumbling temporarily through incompetence doesn't count as liberty arriving via the state.
ron paul!
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper I'm not talking about eliminating the state via the state. I'm talking about SHRINKING the state, so that the average, rather uninformed, citizen can be far more easily convinced of why we don't need the state. When the state is peeled back, layer by layer, the argument of "we need the government to do X" starts to fall apart. I think you will never succeed in convincing enough people to overthrow (necessarily violently) the bloated state entirely all at once.
mtanousable 1 month ago
mtanousable, okay, let me know when you've shrunk the state -- not a blip fart -- via the state.
"convincing enough people to overthrow (necessarily violently) the bloated state entirely all at once."
whew! good thing i've not proposed that, error of your "violently" aside.
the overriding, long term effect of ron paul the career hypocrite will be credulity for the state. yes, i know some are led to voluntarism through exposure to ronald fuzzlwahtz, as some are led to firefighting through arson.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper What, then, are you advocating - or are you just a blithering idiot. Don't vote for small government candidates, because states aren't any better than the Feds. Don't overthrow the statist tyrants (which would have to be violent because they WON'T JUST LET YOU DO THAT). So what? Just suffer through it, without fighting back at all? The state already has credulity, much as you might hate that. Your approach - which you are still vague about - will be ineffectual AT BEST.
mtanousable 1 month ago
mtanousable, bad news, but you don't get to throw out repeated fallacies, then in reply to their deflection ASK me what i'm advocating and -- in the same fucking comment -- tell me that what i'm supposedly advocating (yeah, that thing you just asked me about) is ineffectual and i'm being vague about it. vague?! ha! i haven't said what i'm advocating. can understand a colossal transmit-only puke not reading what i wrote, but at least read what you're writing.
paulist decries "ineffectual". funny.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper You have repeatedly said that what I think you are trying to say is wrong - which is vaguely saying "I'm advocating something, but it isn't that - that's stupid". Fine. Tell me what the fuck makes my statements "fallacies". Tell me what the hell you are saying should be done to reel in and/or eliminate the state. IMO, it's people like you that are the problem. Complaining about tyranny but doing nothing but pissing off those that agree about the problem.
mtanousable 1 month ago
"IMO, it's people like you that are the problem. Complaining about tyranny but doing nothing but pissing off those that agree about the problem."
assumes fact not in evidence. your repeated bullshit errors are not going to be coddled. get straight and try again, or fuck off.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper Fine, I will. You can't have a debate if your only responses amount to the word "wrong". Tell me WHY I'm wrong, and what you think is right, or you just look like an ass anyway. Not voting because it gives credibility to the system only makes sense if you can convince EVERYONE to stop voting - an impossibility as long as people are indoctrinated in government schools. If that isn't what you are advocated, at least tell me what the hell you ARE advocating.
mtanousable 1 month ago
mtanousable, send up a flare when you write asking to know what i advocate, while not criticizing in the same paragraph what you've assumed i advocate. would also be nice if you didn't add in a bunch of other bullshit in the same miraculous comment.
BTW, fuck, no one must provide a solution just because he notes disastrous perpetual failure in "here's a great idea" noobs. to begin, the existence of a liberty solution, from whatever source, must not be presumed -- especially in 500-char blocks.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper What is your problem,listen to what he is saying and see if you can really understand. Why do the veterans overwhelmingly support Ron Paul?
TheRedwoodsman 1 month ago
oh, well said, TheRedwoodsman! ya fucking klank. learn to read.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 month ago
I'm a voluntarist and I support Ron Paul!
anonwoohoo 1 month ago 27
Ron Paul is just another crooked politician that is only for the rich that will play you all like a any other crooked politician.
maximumfullpower 1 month ago
@maximumfullpower before researching Ron Paul's background, I would've agreed w/ this sentiment. But now I say "bullshit," Ron Paul is the real deal. A crooked person wouldn't work in a hospital for only $3 an hour. A crooked person wouldn't treat poor women for free in his own clinic. A crooked person wouldn't instill the same values in their children; children that have est'd free clinics and go around to impoverished areas of the world doing the same and providing care.
TheMinaLoi 1 month ago
@maximumfullpower You must not have looked deeply into Dr. Paul's history. He is not just another crooked politician. He is not like Mitt Romney whose campaign contributors are big banks. He wants to allow individuals the right to make their own decisions. Abolish the IRS. End the FED. He believes that mandatory taxation is theft; a belief that all real voluntarists should hold. The just authority of government is obtained by consent of the governed. We must defend liberty!
anonwoohoo 1 month ago 2
@maximumfullpower This gut trolls all liberty channels, dont worry about convincing him. He needs alot of attention and he cant get it in the real world, so he trolls cop block, free keene and ridley report. Dont be mad at him, just feel bad. LOL!
cincinatus90 1 month ago
Evil can only serve evil, you cannot join the mafia and legitimately believe that you are doing good if you reduce theft by 30% 40% even 99% since you are still in charge and responsible for whatever evil remains.
Also consider the economic crash ahead of us as a people. Once the dollar collapses and millions of people begin to suffer, the last thing I want is a libertarian to be in office so all the control freaks can blame freedom as the cause of the problem.
protipz 1 month ago
I'd do her.
MoneyIsSilver 1 month ago
too many zooms/transitions. its more distracting because the images are changing too rapidly. longer duration, more infrequent would be better (IMO)
networkedfreedom 1 month ago
@networkedfreedom couldn't disagree with you more. The fast edits are used to plant messages subconsciously. It has worked amazingly well for the jews that run the media in dumbing people down (think MTV). If the same technique can be used for smarting people up, then great.
MoneyIsSilver 1 month ago
Ron Paul is a great man and will help in bringing America back to constitutional government.
stephenabm 1 month ago
Could Ron Paul win a race for Governor of Texas?
nottinmatterz2day 1 month ago
she got the brains and the looks
fongster62 1 month ago 2
The message in this video is true. Supporting Ron Paul isn't about "working within the system", it's about showing the world that people support the philosophy of liberty. If it wasn't for my friend telling me about Ron Paul, I doubt I'd be where I'm at today (an anarcho-capitalist).
PrivateSnowballTFC 1 month ago 16
I like the edits at 1:30...you guys are getting good at this.
MoneyIsSilver 1 month ago
FreeKeene y'all are having too much fun up their I wish I could join in it.
robertcgage 1 month ago
Thanks for putting this together.
We discussed this tonight at the Keene Activity Center but essentially what I'd say is that if one doesn't have moral qualms with supporting RP then the question of return still remains.
Has RP had an impact? Without question. But could the resources directed toward him, if used elsewhere, have had a bigger impact?
I say strike the root. We won't get there until that's what's advocated.
PeteEyre 1 month ago
@PeteEyre You are right that we we shouldn't see Paul as an end goal. But it's important to note that people are ALREADY paying attention to this presidential election,(as gross a thing as we understand elections are.) And YOUNG people too, and any of them who hear about Ron Paul will have this legitimacy confirming to the voice in the back of their head that says "war is immoral, drug war is immoral..." He's in a suit, he's running for "president". That makes a big difference
alistairproductions 1 month ago
@alistairproductions Sorry, that we should promote Paul as an end goal I meant
alistairproductions 1 month ago
@alistairproductions So what happens if he takes power and he fails to do what he promised to do like every other politician who came before him? What will that mean for the cause of "liberty" with "their guy" fucking up?
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 I'm optimistic about what might change if Paul elected, I've donated $240 because I want him up there talking about liberty for as long as possible... But I am not counting on him being the "change we can believe in". In public school "running for president" means something real big, right? So these kids probably know morality on a deeper level under all the brainwashing right.. that they aren't supposed to recognize or feel comfortable with... (cont.)
alistairproductions 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 So what happens if he doesn't take power and the politician who takes the Presidency continues the same policies of war, welfare, and tyranny like all other politicians who came before them? What will that mean for the cause of "liberty" with an ensured fuck-up fucking up even further?
plzenjoymybigolpenis 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 (2) but then theres this man who is "running for president" who affirms everything they've felt was only okay to have buried somewhere in the back of their head. And then they learn "only individuals have rights!" "We're all Austrians now!", "I believe in voluntarism".. The degree to which he can "fix the system". That's just silly, the system cannot be fixed... but maybe he'll buy us some time before the system completely tumbles lol Is that possible?
alistairproductions 1 month ago
Nice edit. Ali is becoming a good commentator too.
RidleyReport 1 month ago
I like some of the words he says, but I don't like what he is, which is a politician. A politician speaking out against government coercion is like a wolf in sheep's clothing talking about vegetarianism. I don't trust him. I'm an anti-aggressionist, and I oppose all candidates seeking the highest office in the #1 threat to freedom and liberty in this country.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything Agreed. Thanks for being a reasonable voice here.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything You don't have to trust him, but if you don't do something and leave it to the other gangsters running for president, there will be even more blood on our hands, and your analogies in the youtube comment section won't do any good to explain why we let this country take a widow's husband and family away forever. That's what we are facing. They are beating the drums, and all this abstract philosophy about anarchy is moot when we have 1.2 billion Muslims calling for our blood.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth You've fallen for the propaganda about muslims. Going along with a corrupt system because of some imaginary enemy overseas is just what they want. The enemy is the state, and voting only legitimizes its power. A withheld vote is a vote for there to be no president. It's the vote that most people cast, and it's time it was counted.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything I used to repeat those same things when I was an anarchist. I'm sorry but Muslims are not imaginary, and neither are their losses. I find it offensive that you can continue to say these things like its just an abstraction. Voting is an endorsement of ideas, and ideas don't travel very far without the right vehicle. Nobody believes all the withheld votes in this country are acts of rebellion. They are acts of complacency, and the end result is people will die (again).
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth You are quite simply (and clearly) wrong. Obviously, muslims are not imaginary, but the hordes of them who are out to kill americans because we're supposedly free are imaginary.
How can you say that nobody believes something that I just said that I believe? I'm not alone either, as much as you'd like me to be. The only people who actually want there to be a president are the ones who go out and vote for one. Nobody else wants to be a part of the system.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything I never said they attack us because we're free, if you spent more time reading & understanding what I'm saying than repeating anarchist platitudes, you would realize how foolish your comment is. They attack us because we attack them, and you're too busy thumbing your nose up at "politics" to try to stop it. Its a disgrace. You have the luxury of being an "anarchist" in America, but you still pay into the system that ravages families with military adventurism.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth "We" don't attack them. "They" attack them. Now it sounds like you've given up arguing against what I've been saying, and you've moved on to attacking me. The military is run by a government that hurts people to get what it wants. To hurt people to get what one wants is immoral and should be stopped. No one who wants to be the leader of this immoral institution should be supported with a vote.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything How can you even claim to be against violence when you won't even try to stop it when an opportunity presents itself? I just don't get it. War with Iran is a foregone conclusion unless Ron Paul's influence reaches enough people. Terrorists don't care if you're an "anarchist". They will fucking gut you. And for what? So you could preach on youtube? Ridiculous. If you think people who don't cast their votes are doing so in rebellion, then apathy is revolution. Fat. Chance.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth Do you believe everything a politician tells you?
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything Not anymore than somebody selling a cult on youtube. Anarchy is a brand like anything else. Either you care about saving lives, or you don't. Personally, I'm interested in saving my own life, and that interest is best served by NOT allowing the country I call home to invade, occupy, and destroy a nation of 74 million Shia Muslims who already have a bone to pick with us. The idea that you can separate yourself from the government should have been DEBUNKED on 9/11.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth Ron Paul cannot protect you from terrorists, and I am not convinced that he has any intention of trying. No candidate wants what they say they want. They want only to expand the power of the government, and they will say whatever they have to to get your consent. Your channel says that you want government to be restricted. That's what I want, but I'm not convinced of your sincerity if you expect the government to restrict itself. We have to restrict it.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything He can't protect us from terrorists, but he can stop new terrorists from coming about. You can plug your ears & pretend not to hear anything, but Ron Paul's reputation speaks for itself. We have to restrict it, so how do you do it? Have you shot the tax collectors yet? I'm doubtful. We have the information tools to know who is serious, there is no better time than now. If your attitude is that only an anarchist philosopher/outsider can do this, there is no chance of winning.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth I don't have to plug my ears in order to hear nothing when a politician speaks. Everyone but you knows that their job is to lie. To desire the top office in an organization that claims the right to hurt people is evil. To accept a salary paid with extortion money is evil. Ron Paul is not a good person. No presidential candidate is.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything You hear nothing because you programmed yourself not to listen. A side effect of anarchy is thinking in absolutes. I can hear pretty well too, but let me tell you where I hear a whole lot of nothing; from somebody who says that voting-abstinence works. Part of absolutist thinking is equating Ron Paul's desire for the top office as a function of his desire to hurt people or steal money. Either you haven't thought that out -on your own-, or you're making that claim dishonestly.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth You hear something because you've programmed yourself to believe lies. A side effect of statism is gullibility.
Do you deny that the president is responsible for stealing money and hurting people? Some things are absolutely true, like thieves steal and murderers kill. I won't signify my consent by casting a vote for which terrorist is the least evil even if they say exactly what I want to hear.
PluralOfEverything 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything Who is lying to themself when they automatically make assumptions about people being liars? Do you think you can just casually slander people? Don't make unfounded claims unless you got the paperwork.
The president is going to steal and hurt people regardless. Let me put it to you this way. Vladmir is 30 days from razing your city. There is an election in 7 days. The peace candidate is making his case. People are listening. Maybe Russians should stay home as a "protest".
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@PluralOfEverything The amount of theft and murder that is decreased by changing policy is far greater than sitting where you are, fooling yourself into believing most of soft-socialist America doesn't vote because its a "protest", and thinking that you are accomplishing what you set out to do. I don't know what your priorities are, but it sounds like you are trying weave your way around the obvious in order to sound consistent to yourself. You want anarchy for the sake of how much you invested.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
good segment!
oskarmosquito 1 month ago
People don't want to be free nowadays. It's like telling the slaves they are free, but they are begging the slave-master to stay and wash the dishes.
jamezbond78 1 month ago
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if you are a POLITICIAN and tax me no service for you, if you fund wars with my tax dollars no service, if you pass a law that take freedoms from me no service, if you punish voluntary trade or action no service, take your business else where. if you make it so politicians can't get service or goods, they will be unwelcome in their own state and country soon we will be much freer for it. Ron Paul is a statesmen, not a politician.
libertarianwarbook 1 month ago
I have Michael badnarik to thank for bringing be to the voluntaryist light this is how Americans should vote with their property rights guns and association if you use political association in business to refuse service, and make coalitions to elect people ending the 2 party tyranny, we can start to fix this country ending the unmoral initiation of force must be are highest goal
libertarianwarbook 1 month ago
I wouldn't have discovered voluntarism if it weren't for Ron Paul. The man opened my eyes.
bigheadedmonk 1 month ago 2
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I like how people complain about the constitution. Look, I get it, you guys are cool and edgy, but cut the crap. If you think you can sit around on the corners of youtube and not vote and make a difference, have fun explaining to your children how you didn't even attempt to stop this country from killing millions of people in Iran because you didn't "agree" to the constitution. Or maybe when your child is a casualty of blowback, you'll reconsider your position.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth Yeah, I'll be sure to tell my children how I spent 20 minutes writing shit on a piece of paper pretending it was significant because I bought into the allure of voting. And how I threw away my college money to some politician who had no chance of winning because he was old, had a stutter, and most people thought he was batshit crazy. I'm sure my children will be inspired by such great decision making.
TehBANN3D 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D I wish you would throw away your college money because you clearly haven't used it to educate yourself. You might think you can sit around and WHINE to get things done, but guess what, your leaders will be chosen for you if you abstain, whether you like it or not. I mean let's be honest, in the off chance someone as irresponsible as you has children, when they become adults and realize you allowed tools like Romney to go unchallenged, they will probably shit on your sorry grave.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth I'm majoring in engineering. People who spend money on political educations are worthless. And who said I whine? The fact is, my standard of living is high enough that I don't really give two fucks what the government does. I'm not planning on staying in the US anyways so these people can elect whoever the fuck they want. And if I were to stay in the US I would like to have a job in research, so I'll be voting for whoever is going to give me the most grant money.
TehBANN3D 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D So you have too much money to care, but you're willing to vote for whoever will shuffle borrowed money around for your personal benefit... If there was ever a better description of what is wrong with American politics, I have yet to hear it. It makes sense why you wouldn't like Paul at this point.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth That's how democracy works. I get to help choose a guy to take other people's money for my own selfish gain and the vast majority of people are fine with it. Granted, a single vote is statistically insignificant so voting isn't really that beneficial. However, using political activism and rhetoric to convince the weak minded masses to vote for my paycheck is something I have no problem with, as long as it doesn't cost too much of my time.
TehBANN3D 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D If you live in the US of A, You don't live in a democracy.
robertcgage 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D That's great, I'm glad you feel that way, because this country is changing to root out people like yourself and make you pay your own way. If Ron gets his way, maybe you'll see how much you're really worth.
VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
@VictoryInTruth It doesn't matter who is elected president. What matters is the *institutions* they are taking a hold of.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D Your apathy, hopelessness, and general insignificance I'm sure will be far more inspiring to them.
plzenjoymybigolpenis 1 month ago
@plzenjoymybigolpenis k. you be sure to let your kids know what a great use of time and resources it was supporting a candidate who has no feasible chance of being elected or affecting any disciplined governmental change. I'll be teaching my kids that the only reason for engaging in the massive hoax that is democracy is to bend the minds of the weak and seize wealth and power.
TehBANN3D 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D The reason things are the way they are is because of people like you. I look forward to meeting you on the battlefield.
Your description of the situation is accurate, but you may not want to be teaching your kids that in a time when many are starting to realize the hoax. They may end up dead by some people who do not enjoy being enslaved.
I feel people like you take that attitude because it makes you feel better about your dependence.
bryphi77 1 month ago
@bryphi77 I have this attitude because I realize how inept the majority of people are, and how easy it is to scam them into robbing each other blind for your own personal benefit. All politicians and lobbyists implicitly realize this as well because it has been their life's goal to work as social parasites. And I highly doubt that we will see a revolution within our life time. If we do I'm sure it will be very successful against the most technologically superior military in the world.
TehBANN3D 1 month ago
@TehBANN3D You plan to raise your kids to be just as weak-minded and generally worthless as you are? That's very touching.
plzenjoymybigolpenis 1 month ago
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VictoryInTruth 1 month ago
Actually I'm not even sure Ron Paul believe in the constitution, when asked about voluntaryist communities he said it's fine and these are his principles. He might be an anarchist in the closet.
jaar2001 1 month ago
was with RP in 80s/helped bring lots 2 movement-some 2 total anarchy/Thought last primary was my last/decided its not right 2 help bring DrRP + some of his supporters this far + then just throw them aside/DrRP + his supporters are presently continuing 2 wake up + educate more people than just about ALL other activists COMBINED/encourage all who vote 2 vote 4 DrRPl/endorse DrRP in state primaries + caucuses/encourage EVERYONE 2 NOT VOTE IF Dr. RPis not a declared candidate in the general election
PeacefulAssemblyChur 1 month ago
@PeacefulAssemblyChur Ron Paul supports anarchy? Since when is he anti-capitalist, anti-landlord, etc.? There are way more "archies" than government.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 ?????????????
PeacefulAssemblyChur 1 month ago
@PeacefulAssemblyChur Read the writings of Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Goldman, Tucker, Berkman, de Cleyre, all those people, and you'll see what I mean.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
he's clearly the only choice for moral people who believe in voting. out of any person who has ever run for office, he's the only one i'd trust to let in my front door.
lostbedouin 1 month ago
Yeah, I can "like" Ron Paul, & not vote for him.
rockstarofredondo 1 month ago
I'm convinced ... moving to NH, but only if Ron Paul wins NH. Time to shine free-staters.
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS That's probably not going to happen though. Obamney is in the clear lead with over 40% of the pre-primary vote.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Yeah, they keep saying that, but RP is on the rise. One thing I wonder is whether those numbers are based ONLY on registered Republican voters. If that's true, then a massive turn out for RP by independent would totally upset those numbers. Over 45% of NH is registered as independent. Correct me if I'm wrong.
3w's (dot) realclearpolitics (dot) com/epolls/latest_polls/
What ever happened to Live Free or Die? Get the vote out people! Vote Ron Paul!
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
@WhatsReallyGoingOnUS That's what people were saying four years ago when the FSP was just making its mark in NH: oh, you can't trust the polls because all these young people and independents aren't being polled or go to vote last minute. I'll wait until after the primary.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
Great video.
WhatsReallyGoingOnUS 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012
ThatGassettGuy 1 month ago
In all fairness, the US constitution really isn't all that liberty-oriented. Watch Michael Parenti's talk on the myth of the founding fathers to get a good insight.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Thanks for knowing what's up re: US Constitution.
rockstarofredondo 1 month ago
@rockstarofredondo
Agreed.I like Ron Paul, but I didn't agree to or sign any constitution.
The constitution of no authority!
landofthefreemyass 1 month ago
@landofthefreemyass Exactly. I really wish he'd drop that Constitution reference that he constantly makes.
rockstarofredondo 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 your miserable.
cincinatus90 1 month ago
@cincinatus90 Whatever, dude. The facts speak for themselves.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@cincinatus90 I'm going to do a vid about the diff between "you're" & "your" inspired by you.
rockstarofredondo 1 month ago