I just thought of something, unless Erik was taunt how a human face should look, why would he have grown up thinking he was already hideous? Unless Gerald had told him, what other reason would he have? You would think that even his own father could find something nice to say about him or could possibly look past that.
About the fact that the younger flashback Gerard doesn't say anything, it is kind of very effective actually. How enraging, when she tells him she's pregnant, and she wants to marry him. He just says . . . nothing. That whole lack of reaction-- that might just be enough to make a young, impressionable girl try to kill herself. If she was pregnant she would have had crazy hormones anyway-- his lack of reaction makes him seem even more cold and unfeeling. I think it works.
Oh, come on Gerard, this erik wasn't even freakin' evil!!!!
In Webber's musical or the book I understand people being worried for Christine, but this phantom isn't even crazy- much. He wouldn't hurt her, and he shows her himself by his own choice.
@SwonanaMakaroni 'Cept Erik knew it and poor Lukie didn't. Though Erik does get his own "Noooooo!" in the picnic scene. Dude, Charles Dance is now my master of all things painful-screaming. "WHYYYYYYYY?!"
I wish Erik would punjab Gerrard......when you are married you don't fool around, you also don't lie to someone you are sleeping with..........since they didn't have birth control then guys then should be aware a kid is possible.....I love how he white-washes it...well my wife was a slut (ex. baby could've been mine or 6 others) but I married her and I didn't want to screw things up with my lover so I lied...URGH!
I don't like that she is effectively his mom, seems like a cop out on behalf of the writers. Why couldn't he just lover her, and not make it to do with mommy issues.
Actually, I think it's a reference to the Kay novel. In the Kay novel Christine looked exactly like his mother (who was very cruel to him), and it's almost like her soul was given a second chance to love Erik properly. yeah, weird mommy issues, but it seemed like that to me.
@Greya77 The ''mommy issues'' also make me a bit uncomfortable...But then I'm thinking: Well, Erik knew his mother loved him so much despite how he looked, to him, she was an angel...Then he hears Christine, and she reminds him of his mother.The only person who ever loved him and kissed his face...So he believes Christine must love him too, not as his mother per se, but just for the love hes desparate for all his life.That a woman can look at him and smile....
@Bomberzone1745 I agree 100%. There are some versions where the mask just doesn't seem to fit, such as the David Staller version (though his deformity was awesome) and the 1943 one. This is probably the best-fitting mask ever.
this is based on a theatrical version, and in that version (I think), the same actress played both...it would have worked onstage, but onscreen it is a little obvious, I agree.
Ur in Eriks cave, yeah thats the Phantoms name, oh yeah hes the phantom of the opera, and he loves you alot and is going to keep u here forever, so how was your day?
heeeeeyyy! Don't make fun of us twilight fans *sniffsniff* lol. I know what u mean though, some obsess entirely over JUST Edward Cullen. I agree with you, Eric is a wonderful character!!
Man oh man. I really, really dislike Gerard in this part. What a pr***. Gets one girl pregnant (and if he's dumb enough to get into bed with a floozie than it's his own stupid fault) goes off and gets the next pregnant without even telling her that he's married! Okay, points for taking care of Erik later on, but still.
Also: this part reminds me how much Teri Polo had to learn for this role - ballet pirouettes aren't something you learn in a day.
Actually, according to IMDB - Teri Polo had earlier taken 12 years worth of ballet lessons. So she actually was adept in that section of the movie. However, as she couldn't sing opera, she and Charles Dance (who also couldn't sing opera), had to spend hours learning to mime to the opera arias and trios. And these were later dubbed in with actual opera singer's voices.
Thanks for the info! I thought she was looking very well doing the dancing but I really know next to nothing of ballet and couldn't tell how much training a dancer has.
I guessed about the singing though because even I know taht no one sings like that with just a few months of training. (See Gerard Butler as evidence!) I'd love to know who dubbed Charles Dance, though. His voice, both talking and singing, are lovely.
"Let he/she who is trying to appear clever and meaningful but hasn't the wits to come up with something clever and meaningful use random bible quotes."
And I'm pretty d**n sure I never left a wife behind, knocked up some girl whom I never told the little detail about my marriage and then turned my back on her.
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HotBroodish 2 weeks ago
ooooo nuddee
oomsbun 2 weeks ago
OH SNAP I REALLY WASN'T EXPECTING THAT !!!!!!
Total Star Wars moment !!!!!!!
pandacopter2 1 month ago
At 2:20, I always hear "Coming up next, on 'Mythbusters'..." in my head.
IrritatingAsp 1 month ago
gerard needs to loose the side burns....
flutist4440 2 months ago
It kind of ruined it when they said Erik only loved her because she looks like his mother............
Turned from super romantic to creepy
SuperYellow1989 4 months ago
I just thought of something, unless Erik was taunt how a human face should look, why would he have grown up thinking he was already hideous? Unless Gerald had told him, what other reason would he have? You would think that even his own father could find something nice to say about him or could possibly look past that.
MoonlessdarkVI 4 months ago
i love erik =)
dulcemariposa2 4 months ago
@twiwonder: well, Erik's mom looked a hell of a lot like Christine, and they emphasize it better than some lady with makeup on.
The1990phantom 5 months ago
Frankly, I think it's stupid that they use the same actress for this lady as christine. gee...
twiwonder 6 months ago
Who else thinks Erik's dad is -was- a total jerk?
phangirl1986 6 months ago
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SurferBabe4Ever 7 months ago
wow Erik's dad is kinda a total douche! XD leaving pregnant woman coast to coast. and i can see where Erik got his sideburns from...
ShadowDwellerXXX 7 months ago 11
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
kunaraga 8 months ago
When he says "I love her" I think I died.
BeveragesAfterNine 10 months ago
About the fact that the younger flashback Gerard doesn't say anything, it is kind of very effective actually. How enraging, when she tells him she's pregnant, and she wants to marry him. He just says . . . nothing. That whole lack of reaction-- that might just be enough to make a young, impressionable girl try to kill herself. If she was pregnant she would have had crazy hormones anyway-- his lack of reaction makes him seem even more cold and unfeeling. I think it works.
OvaltineEucerin 1 year ago 8
Oh, come on Gerard, this erik wasn't even freakin' evil!!!!
In Webber's musical or the book I understand people being worried for Christine, but this phantom isn't even crazy- much. He wouldn't hurt her, and he shows her himself by his own choice.
NowhereWoman152 1 year ago 5
this is like Star Wars "Erik...I'm your father!" *dramatic music* haha XD
SwonanaMakaroni 1 year ago 2
@SwonanaMakaroni 'Cept Erik knew it and poor Lukie didn't. Though Erik does get his own "Noooooo!" in the picnic scene. Dude, Charles Dance is now my master of all things painful-screaming. "WHYYYYYYYY?!"
ShadowinEX 1 year ago 3
>.< I don't find Erik dangerous to Christine at all. He may blow everyone ELSE up but not her.
Fullmetal1890P 1 year ago
waaiiiitttttttt
he has all this time to explain to Christine his love life's story, yet he kept urging her to leave? wth? XD
xJoycexVampirex 1 year ago
Erik's face cannot be nearly as ugly as his father's soul. He should be the one condemed to live undergroung.
nestersg 1 year ago 4
Erik forever :)
DarkGaarafan17 1 year ago
omg his father !!!
BEEmyANGEL 1 year ago
I wish Erik would punjab Gerrard......when you are married you don't fool around, you also don't lie to someone you are sleeping with..........since they didn't have birth control then guys then should be aware a kid is possible.....I love how he white-washes it...well my wife was a slut (ex. baby could've been mine or 6 others) but I married her and I didn't want to screw things up with my lover so I lied...URGH!
Duszka 1 year ago 3
I was shocked when I heard the music played at the "Ballet Rehersal" It is the final number to the Ballet Giselle. Way to sneak it in!
glamgirlsg 1 year ago
I HATE when people spell eriK wrong!!!
phantomcrawford 1 year ago 7
I was like Nooo way! When Gerard said that he was a married man!
Diplomatica36 1 year ago
@Diplomatica36 who> himslef or erik???
thenana011 1 year ago
@thenana011 Himself
Diplomatica36 1 year ago
I don't like that she is effectively his mom, seems like a cop out on behalf of the writers. Why couldn't he just lover her, and not make it to do with mommy issues.
Greya77 2 years ago 7
Actually, I think it's a reference to the Kay novel. In the Kay novel Christine looked exactly like his mother (who was very cruel to him), and it's almost like her soul was given a second chance to love Erik properly. yeah, weird mommy issues, but it seemed like that to me.
saveoursanity 2 years ago 4
@saveoursanity The Kay-novel came out in the exact same year as the movie unless it was put in last-minute I doubt that's how it came to be...
Goldkehlchen20 1 year ago
@Greya77 The ''mommy issues'' also make me a bit uncomfortable...But then I'm thinking: Well, Erik knew his mother loved him so much despite how he looked, to him, she was an angel...Then he hears Christine, and she reminds him of his mother.The only person who ever loved him and kissed his face...So he believes Christine must love him too, not as his mother per se, but just for the love hes desparate for all his life.That a woman can look at him and smile....
MrsJosephMerrick 1 year ago
@Bomberzone1745 I agree 100%. There are some versions where the mask just doesn't seem to fit, such as the David Staller version (though his deformity was awesome) and the 1943 one. This is probably the best-fitting mask ever.
GrobanitePhan 2 years ago 4
Teri Polo did a great job, but I wish they had used a different actress for his mother. As it is it's very unsubtle.
plunkza 2 years ago 3
this is based on a theatrical version, and in that version (I think), the same actress played both...it would have worked onstage, but onscreen it is a little obvious, I agree.
altodivo 2 years ago 4
His Name shouldn't be Gerard. It doesn't fit him. His name should be something else like,...Bernard, or Elijah.
loyalfalconflutist 2 years ago 2
so weird..him having Gerard this name. It only makes me think of the macho Gerard Butler~:P
iluvsnoopy25 2 years ago
Thank you for uploading this! I love it.
Marlean 2 years ago
Does ANYONE know the title of the song at 7:40?? I'm dying to know!
hollykmck 2 years ago
@hollykmck
I beleive it's Andre Gretry's "Richard Coer de Lion" - and what she sings at 6.38 is the same piece
Carmela1881 5 months ago
He is a cruel God, indeed.
nestersg 2 years ago
I love Erik!
Gerard is a git.
lilanthia 2 years ago 2
@lilanthia But I loved Gerard. Such a great character, for a git...
ShadowinEX 1 year ago
I'm gonna name my son Erik. xD
IAngelofMusicI 2 years ago 14
ohmygoshshock! Me too!
PhantomInTraining 2 years ago
@IAngelofMusicI You and the other 10 thousand people who love Erik out there (which is ME by the way) :D
ShadowinEX 1 year ago
nice way to drop the bomb on christine Gerard:
Ur in Eriks cave, yeah thats the Phantoms name, oh yeah hes the phantom of the opera, and he loves you alot and is going to keep u here forever, so how was your day?
gUrAcoX463 2 years ago 81
Oh, and by the way, Im his father too!
gUrAcoX463 2 years ago 9
@gUrAcoX463 God damn it, I wanted Erik to tell her so that they could work things out. Gah....
BeveragesAfterNine 10 months ago
he's doin' the powder thing, a bit like Leroux
SashalovesErik 2 years ago 7
Anyone know what song Christine sings at the audition?? It's beautiful!
Frenchie284 3 years ago
The song Christine sings at the bistro is "Par le rang et par l'opulence" from the opera Le Fille du Régiment.
SuicideJuliana 2 years ago
"you are magic too."
<3 i love eric (as a character not like a creepy twilight fan lol)
LaLaLaAllDayLong 3 years ago 46
heeeeeyyy! Don't make fun of us twilight fans *sniffsniff* lol. I know what u mean though, some obsess entirely over JUST Edward Cullen. I agree with you, Eric is a wonderful character!!
DesireeCullen 2 years ago
but if you can admit that, youre not a creepy twilight fan
congrats lol :)
LaLaLaAllDayLong 2 years ago
ERIK. Not Eric. NOT Eric. E-R-I-K.
PhantomMidnight 2 years ago 10
@DesireeCullen And then she said "Eric". Erik has a K, hun. Just for future reference, not beating on you, promise.
ShadowinEX 1 year ago
Gerald Butler wore that same shirt that Charles Dance wore!
evertime492 3 years ago
Maybe so, but I don't think he fit it as well as Gerard, lol.
IAngelofMusicI 2 years ago 2
Charles Dance wore it better.
PhantomInTraining 2 years ago 3
Makes me wonder if the younger Gerard actor is a mute. Thanks for the interesting info, Emily.
Enabsflow1 3 years ago
Man oh man. I really, really dislike Gerard in this part. What a pr***. Gets one girl pregnant (and if he's dumb enough to get into bed with a floozie than it's his own stupid fault) goes off and gets the next pregnant without even telling her that he's married! Okay, points for taking care of Erik later on, but still.
Also: this part reminds me how much Teri Polo had to learn for this role - ballet pirouettes aren't something you learn in a day.
RabiaB 3 years ago 2
Actually, according to IMDB - Teri Polo had earlier taken 12 years worth of ballet lessons. So she actually was adept in that section of the movie. However, as she couldn't sing opera, she and Charles Dance (who also couldn't sing opera), had to spend hours learning to mime to the opera arias and trios. And these were later dubbed in with actual opera singer's voices.
EmilyGreene1984 3 years ago 4
Thanks for the info! I thought she was looking very well doing the dancing but I really know next to nothing of ballet and couldn't tell how much training a dancer has.
I guessed about the singing though because even I know taht no one sings like that with just a few months of training. (See Gerard Butler as evidence!) I'd love to know who dubbed Charles Dance, though. His voice, both talking and singing, are lovely.
RabiaB 3 years ago
That is French operatic tenor, Gerard Garino. Isn't his voice beautiful?
EmilyGreene1984 3 years ago 2
Meltingly beautiful. Thanks so much for that info; I'm off to find what google, wiki and youtube have on him.
RabiaB 3 years ago
Gerard did a wonderful job! >:(
SessRin1778 3 years ago 3
@RabiaB Gerard Garino. Freaking amazing, no?! :D
ShadowinEX 1 year ago
@ShadowinEX
Yes, beautiful voice. I have to go and google him, thx!
RabiaB 1 year ago
- "Let he/she who is without sin/flaws cast the first stone."
Veil0fVisions 3 years ago
"Let he/she who is trying to appear clever and meaningful but hasn't the wits to come up with something clever and meaningful use random bible quotes."
And I'm pretty d**n sure I never left a wife behind, knocked up some girl whom I never told the little detail about my marriage and then turned my back on her.
RabiaB 3 years ago 2