What a great time it is to be a latter day saint. never before have there been more blessings avaiable to the saints than today. living your life in tune with the holy spirit of Christ and learning daily as a family from the gospels of Christ are things everyone deserves to have in their life. Ask your local LDS missionaries for help finding that sweet spirit of Christ that is missing from your life.
You help so many people find real relationships with Christ just by being yourself. I know you dont think you do but you really do. your makeing a real difference. People want to know more about the LDS faith. There are good people out there seeking Christ. If there were more people like you who bring into question the LDS faith. More people would find Christ sooner. i wish I had. Ask your local LDS missionary for help.
My Friend, I never met a Mormon that I did not like. They make very good neighbors. It is the false doctrines that I contend with. Since we both seem to be compassionate about faith in Jesus. Do you Know the Mormon Jesus or the Bible Jesus? The Jesus of Joesph Smith and Brigham Young or the Jesus of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John etc.
Just which Jesus are you referring too? No they are not the same Jesus.
see now this is exactly what I am talking about here. This is what lead me to have a personal relationship with Christ and not just a personal chip on my shoulder to cater to my own ego. Im suppose to say there the same and your gonna say NO your wrong. The bible says... Etc. Just for the purpose of contention. Which we both know is not of Christ. This behavior is exactly what lead me away from your man made misinterpretation of scripture. theres no spirit of Christ in it at all. Agree?
Here ill prove my point even further. Stay with me and see if you can follow. The most important thing to you right now is proving your right and im wrong. Even though we've said very little about our personal beliefs. Which should tell you something about yourself. Theres nothing of Christ teachings in your behavior. Just because we have a personal relationship with Christ of the bible is no reason to try and prove us wrong. It just means were a little ahead of you thats all. Doesn'tmakeusbeter
If we have a different Jesus than you, you should look at yours more carefully. Is it the Jesus of the BIble, or the Jesus of the creeds? I'm guessing the latter, since I was raised that way. The Jesus of the creeds is NOTHING like the Jesus of the Bible. I joined the LDS church, in part, because they DO worship the Jesus of hte BIBLE, not the one of the creeds.
You should take pride in doing the lords work. Your very effective at showing how hate and fear can drive a person. I mean I'd still be born again if people like you didn't show me the dark side of the religion. I needed a personal relationship with Christ. And thats what I found in the LDS church. Thanks to videos like this one. Couldn't have done it without you. I thought pride and ego were the spirit until I saw your video post. Then I said no way this of God? So I prayed and found The LDS
I took the advise of this video and after some close evaluation of my relationship with Christ and following everything contained within this video I came to find that the LDS is the only faith that could be true. Now me and my entire family have left the Evangelical Christian faith and became Latter day saints. Thank you so much for helping me find that sweet spirit of Christ and giving my entire family of 6 a personal relationship with Christ.
Please tell me what parts of your testimony is a lie? You joined youtube 12/10/07 as a Priest of the order of Melchizedek, see marcopolo8765's Channel. Most of the Mormons I know would not lie just for the sake of impressing a Christian. They would be ashamed of your dishonesty.
You were a Mormon before I loaded this video. So now the world knows you lie. "Now me and my entire family have left the Evangelical Christian faith and became Latter day saints. Thank you so much for helping me find that sweet spirit of Christ and giving my entire family of 6 a personal relationship with Christ."
So then you are doubting the power of your video? Trust me brother. Take your own advice and see for yourself. You have forever changed my life and my families. My wife and I were both confirmed members and baptised in 2008 shortly afterward all of our children of age were baptised. Then my grandpa, mother, cousins etc. Its been a busy year for us. And I owe it mostly to videos like the one you posted which showed me the true hate behind people like you. Very powerful stuff
It is not because Mormons don't agree with our definition of Christianity. It's because they teach doctrines that Jesus never taught. Their church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Our church is the church of Jesus Christ of the Bible. The Jesus of the Latter-day Saints cannot save because he does not exist!
after leaving the born again faith. I found a personal relationship with Christ. But I had to let go of the self rightousness and hatred that they were teaching me in services. Once I did I truly became born again. Its hard to find Christ when man is twisting his word around for his own personal gain. And your buying it. Better to seek him alone in prayer and read the scriptures. Than listen to someone who is being paid well to give it to you.
How do you know Jesus never taught them? The Bible says, two or three times, that there were things He taught His disciples that are not in the Bible. Who knows what He said to them?
7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
To sum up many hours of scriptural discussion, the book of Mormon calls itself another testimony of Jesus Christ. In fact it creates another Jesus and another gospel other than the Gospel taught by Jesus and Paul.
Brigham Young taught that Adam was Michael the Archangel, the Ancient of Days; he also taught that Adam was "our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." He finished this message by saying, "Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation" (Journal of Discourses 1:50,51
it is the official teaching of the LDS Church that God the Father has a physical body (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22). The belief that God the Father was once a human being rests mainly on two technically uncanonized sources (sermons of Joseph Smith and Lorenzo Snow) which have, however, in effect become normative"
Gospel-1 Cor. 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Gal. 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
I am a Christian, have been since I was a child. I was not always Mormon, but I've always been Christian.
Reading Bible verses is preaching to the choir. But, your interpretation is yours, and not necessarily the right one.
I have read and studied the Bible, both before and after I joined the LDS church, and it's because of the Bible (at least in part) that I joined the LDS church, as I find it to be the most Biblical church.
2nd Peter 1:20-2:1 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation. For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke, being moved by the Holy Spirit. But there also arose false prophets among the people, as among you also there will be false teachers, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.
2nd Peter 2:2-3 Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. In covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber.
you say Joseph Smith invented a new Jesus...how do you know Matthew Mark Luke John didn't invent a new Jesus? how do you know they didn't invent Jesus from the beginning?
Galatians1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
I still don't see how you can say these verses damn the Mormons, since it has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and you would see that if you actually READ the Bible, especially the rest of Galatians.
Thank you for the comment my friend Mormons have never been considered Christians because Smith and Young invented a new Jesus This invented Jesus was not the same as the true Jesus of the Bible To be a Christian one must be a follower of Christ Gods anointed Son The names are the same but the definitions are different
Mormon Articles of faith show the flaws in Mormon doctrine. God was once a man and he earned, attained or progressed into being a god by good works. "As man is, god once was"
Prophet Joseph Smith said" God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits in yonder heavens!" Mormon Elohiym was once a man...
A Christian is a follower of the real, resurrected, living Lord Jesus Christ. And not a follower of a false prophet whom uses the name of Jesus and small portions of the bible to build a religious empire. The Buddhist, the JWs and LDS have each created a different Jesus from each other. This is a counterfeit and all three are wrong according to the Christian Bible. Thank you for your comment, I hope we can be friends.
You have no idea who the "real" Jesus is . You are just blindly following the blind. You have no knowledge of other religions. I hope we can be friends too....LOL, I love how you put that last part in after slandering religions...hahaha
well if you knew anything about the mormon religion then you would know what i'm talking about, wouldnt you. so maby you should know what your going to start before you open your mouth.
you know, i feel sorry for you. you must feel confused or angry about something so your taking it out on other(or other religions). mormons have been persecuted sence they became a church and i see that as another reason to belong to them. but your just the same as those men who killed smith and drove the mormons to utah and caused so many to die in the cold. so congrads, your a decriminator.
you.... need to calm down.... lol man your crazy haha.... who died in the cold? the men who killed "smith" did the right thing.. you fool and whats wrong with utah? nothing its fine your acting like they forced them to move into the valley of the dead or something.
There is nothing wrong now, but if it wasn't for the LDS people Utah would still be a wasteland of desert and sagebrush. And after being forced out of several other states in a way, yes, the LDS were forced into the west. Oh, and by saying that those men did the right thing in killing smith...no...you see, that is what they thought too, but the LDS church is still growing.
On judgement day you are going to wish you hadn't listened to your preacher or your parents who can only spread lies about the LDS church. Takes some time to listen to the truth and maybe you'll see.
I think the easiest way to tell true Christians is if they preach something different from the bible. Its really that simple. The Jesus of the bible didn't have 3 wives lol. Mormons are just easy targets, but they aren't the only ones preaching things that are not bible supported. Anytime you see someone whip out another book "because the bible is too complicated" then you should be ready to hear an opinion or sometimes perversion of the bible.
ah yeah i am mormon and i find this offencive. i am too a christian because i belive in god and jesus and the holy gost. just because we dont belive in all of them being one person dosnt prove anyting! if your going by what this man is saying then all churches are not christain because all churches have differant views on god and jesus. so think about what u post before you go acusing people of not being christains becaues you are discriminatig a bit.
It's called Mormophobia. That threatening feeling that the Mormon's are gaining too much momentum world wide. So they drum up a bogus statement like "Mormon's aren't christian" in hopes that it may deter future converts from the truth. Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Fear not, no unhallowed hand can stop this work from going forth.
Believing in Jesus Christ doesn't constitute being a "christian" and bad mouthing other religions is? Interesting. Try reading Matt. 5:44, those are the true "christians". In the mean time we'll still be praying for you.
lol sorry i just didnt know what you were talking about when you said "momentum" there is no momentum. give it 60 maybe 80 years mormomism will be done and over with, everyone will only remember it as a religious hoax that some drunk fool read the BOM out of a hat and it will eventually fade in history, i just wish it would come sooner so the church will stop damning people to hell
From 6 members to over 12 million in over 150 countries and growing by 200+ thousand each year is not momentum to you? Your ignorance about the LDS faith is quite normal actually. In 80 years we might just rule the world. Don't worry I'm sure you won't be around to curse our success.
Wow, for someone who lives in Utah you really know nothing about the LDS religion.....reading things out of a hat...you are getting two Anti-Mormon claims mixed up. You can't even bash correctly!
We claim to be Christian. The definition of being a Christian is to have a belief in Jesus Christ. That's what we believe in and we are the only church who bear's His holy name (The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). You say I'm not Christian and to give it up. What else would that imply?
we believe in a totally different jesus you just stole his name, you guys believe that jesus's dad was a "god" named eloheim or whatever MY jesus the REAL one if the son of god not elodouchebag, and lucifer was jesus's brother? i think not.
Stole? No, you believe that God created himself into a person named Jesus Christ. We just find it absurd thinking that someone could be his own son? Three in one and one in three is a contradiction in terminology. You believe that Jesus Christ was resurrected but are not sure if He still has His body today? You might say He does but are torn by the scripture that "God is a Spirit". Sorry but you really don't know who Jesus is.
hey just because you think that its absurd doesnt mean that it can be. you cant see the wind but its still there you cant see heat but its still exists
God is NOT a God of confusion. Someone or something that is three different people in one body or substance defies logic. Of course its the Christian belief that God's incomprehensible. Definition of incomprehensible: "Impossible to know or fathom". This is life eternal, to KNOW thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. There lies your great mystery.
Its funny how some people, like you, ignorantly pass a biased judgement on something they have never read. Keep listening to your crack-job preacher, I'm sure you'll learn a lot more.
well what do u expect mormons are calling themselves christians we want people to know we are not anything like you, including now because of what is happening in texas (yes i know they are flds and u are lds ... close enough they came from your beliefs)
Sorry, I seriously doubt you'll know that one so I'll give you an easy one. What is the first and foremost thing we as "Mormon's" believe in? I'll give you a hint; It's our first article of faith.
Thank you for the comment my friend Mormons have never been considered Christians because Smith and Young invented a new Jesus This invented Jesus was not the same as the true Jesus of the Bible To be a Christian one must be a follower of Christ Gods anointed Son The names are the same but the definitions are different
it seems to me you'er a little confused. But I certianly respect your right to belive what you will. If it helps you any, LDS members (Mormons) follow the teachings of Christ as best they know how, and are therefore christians.
Thank you for the comment my friend Mormons have never been considered Christians because Smith and Young invented a new Jesus This invented Jesus was not the same as the true Jesus of the Bible To be a Christian one must be a follower of Christ Gods anointed Son The names are the same but the definitions are different
O_O what the...since when Mormons =/= Christian? topic is fail ( as far as my knowledge extends, this is false)
Nasuversepro 1 year ago
What a great time it is to be a latter day saint. never before have there been more blessings avaiable to the saints than today. living your life in tune with the holy spirit of Christ and learning daily as a family from the gospels of Christ are things everyone deserves to have in their life. Ask your local LDS missionaries for help finding that sweet spirit of Christ that is missing from your life.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
You help so many people find real relationships with Christ just by being yourself. I know you dont think you do but you really do. your makeing a real difference. People want to know more about the LDS faith. There are good people out there seeking Christ. If there were more people like you who bring into question the LDS faith. More people would find Christ sooner. i wish I had. Ask your local LDS missionary for help.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
My Friend, I never met a Mormon that I did not like. They make very good neighbors. It is the false doctrines that I contend with. Since we both seem to be compassionate about faith in Jesus. Do you Know the Mormon Jesus or the Bible Jesus? The Jesus of Joesph Smith and Brigham Young or the Jesus of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John etc.
Just which Jesus are you referring too? No they are not the same Jesus.
packrat28401 2 years ago
see now this is exactly what I am talking about here. This is what lead me to have a personal relationship with Christ and not just a personal chip on my shoulder to cater to my own ego. Im suppose to say there the same and your gonna say NO your wrong. The bible says... Etc. Just for the purpose of contention. Which we both know is not of Christ. This behavior is exactly what lead me away from your man made misinterpretation of scripture. theres no spirit of Christ in it at all. Agree?
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
Here ill prove my point even further. Stay with me and see if you can follow. The most important thing to you right now is proving your right and im wrong. Even though we've said very little about our personal beliefs. Which should tell you something about yourself. Theres nothing of Christ teachings in your behavior. Just because we have a personal relationship with Christ of the bible is no reason to try and prove us wrong. It just means were a little ahead of you thats all. Doesn'tmakeusbeter
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
If we have a different Jesus than you, you should look at yours more carefully. Is it the Jesus of the BIble, or the Jesus of the creeds? I'm guessing the latter, since I was raised that way. The Jesus of the creeds is NOTHING like the Jesus of the Bible. I joined the LDS church, in part, because they DO worship the Jesus of hte BIBLE, not the one of the creeds.
lindalds 2 years ago
You should take pride in doing the lords work. Your very effective at showing how hate and fear can drive a person. I mean I'd still be born again if people like you didn't show me the dark side of the religion. I needed a personal relationship with Christ. And thats what I found in the LDS church. Thanks to videos like this one. Couldn't have done it without you. I thought pride and ego were the spirit until I saw your video post. Then I said no way this of God? So I prayed and found The LDS
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
I took the advise of this video and after some close evaluation of my relationship with Christ and following everything contained within this video I came to find that the LDS is the only faith that could be true. Now me and my entire family have left the Evangelical Christian faith and became Latter day saints. Thank you so much for helping me find that sweet spirit of Christ and giving my entire family of 6 a personal relationship with Christ.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
Please tell me what parts of your testimony is a lie? You joined youtube 12/10/07 as a Priest of the order of Melchizedek, see marcopolo8765's Channel. Most of the Mormons I know would not lie just for the sake of impressing a Christian. They would be ashamed of your dishonesty.
packrat28401 2 years ago
What exactly is a lie? or what part do you have a problem hearing?
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
You were a Mormon before I loaded this video. So now the world knows you lie. "Now me and my entire family have left the Evangelical Christian faith and became Latter day saints. Thank you so much for helping me find that sweet spirit of Christ and giving my entire family of 6 a personal relationship with Christ."
packrat28401 2 years ago
So then you are doubting the power of your video? Trust me brother. Take your own advice and see for yourself. You have forever changed my life and my families. My wife and I were both confirmed members and baptised in 2008 shortly afterward all of our children of age were baptised. Then my grandpa, mother, cousins etc. Its been a busy year for us. And I owe it mostly to videos like the one you posted which showed me the true hate behind people like you. Very powerful stuff
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
It is not because Mormons don't agree with our definition of Christianity. It's because they teach doctrines that Jesus never taught. Their church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Our church is the church of Jesus Christ of the Bible. The Jesus of the Latter-day Saints cannot save because he does not exist!
packrat28401 2 years ago
You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion.
lindalds 2 years ago
after leaving the born again faith. I found a personal relationship with Christ. But I had to let go of the self rightousness and hatred that they were teaching me in services. Once I did I truly became born again. Its hard to find Christ when man is twisting his word around for his own personal gain. And your buying it. Better to seek him alone in prayer and read the scriptures. Than listen to someone who is being paid well to give it to you.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
How do you know Jesus never taught them? The Bible says, two or three times, that there were things He taught His disciples that are not in the Bible. Who knows what He said to them?
lindalds 2 years ago
My lifestyle proves that I follow Jesus, that He is my Lord and Saviour, because I do what He says. I follow HIS commandments.
lindalds 2 years ago
You need to at least get the name right, it's The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Not of the Lord Jesus Christ.
If we have a different Jesus, then perhaps yours is the wrong one.
We don't believe exactly like you do, but that does not make us wrong. Just wrong according to your interpretation of the Bible.
We ARE true believers in HIS only begotten Son.
You show by this video that you do not know what we believe. Your way is right for you, but it's not been proven to me.
lindalds 2 years ago
Gal 1:6-9 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
packrat28401 2 years ago
7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
packrat28401 2 years ago
9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
packrat28401 2 years ago
To sum up many hours of scriptural discussion, the book of Mormon calls itself another testimony of Jesus Christ. In fact it creates another Jesus and another gospel other than the Gospel taught by Jesus and Paul.
packrat28401 2 years ago
It's another testiment, not another gospel.
If it teaches another gospel than in the Bible, it's Your Humble OPinion. I happen to see they both teach the same Gospel of Jesus Christ.
lindalds 2 years ago
Brigham Young taught that Adam was Michael the Archangel, the Ancient of Days; he also taught that Adam was "our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." He finished this message by saying, "Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation" (Journal of Discourses 1:50,51
packrat28401 2 years ago
And Brigham Young is not our prophet now.
lindalds 2 years ago
Good thing we preach the gospel of Jesus Christ.
lindalds 2 years ago
it is the official teaching of the LDS Church that God the Father has a physical body (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22). The belief that God the Father was once a human being rests mainly on two technically uncanonized sources (sermons of Joseph Smith and Lorenzo Snow) which have, however, in effect become normative"
packrat28401 2 years ago
Gospel-1 Cor. 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
lindalds 2 years ago
What different gospel is Paul talking about?
Gal. 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
lindalds 2 years ago
As man is God once was, as God is man may be. Taught by both snow and Smith
packrat28401 2 years ago
That's not the gospel. Prt of it isn't even official doctrine.
lindalds 2 years ago
I am a Christian, have been since I was a child. I was not always Mormon, but I've always been Christian.
Reading Bible verses is preaching to the choir. But, your interpretation is yours, and not necessarily the right one.
I have read and studied the Bible, both before and after I joined the LDS church, and it's because of the Bible (at least in part) that I joined the LDS church, as I find it to be the most Biblical church.
lindalds 2 years ago
Packrat28401
Can you explain to me how it is that you think you've got it right? What makes your beliefs the correct ones....?
allmanjoy 3 years ago
2nd Peter 1:20-2:1 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation. For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke, being moved by the Holy Spirit. But there also arose false prophets among the people, as among you also there will be false teachers, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.
packrat28401 3 years ago
2nd Peter 2:2-3 Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. In covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber.
packrat28401 3 years ago
packrat28401
you say Joseph Smith invented a new Jesus...how do you know Matthew Mark Luke John didn't invent a new Jesus? how do you know they didn't invent Jesus from the beginning?
allmanjoy 3 years ago
Galatians1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
packrat28401 3 years ago
so this is your proof? why do you believe this?
allmanjoy 3 years ago
I still don't see how you can say these verses damn the Mormons, since it has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and you would see that if you actually READ the Bible, especially the rest of Galatians.
lindalds 2 years ago
Mormons ARE Christains. We belong to the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints.
ilovemormons94 3 years ago
Thank you for the comment my friend Mormons have never been considered Christians because Smith and Young invented a new Jesus This invented Jesus was not the same as the true Jesus of the Bible To be a Christian one must be a follower of Christ Gods anointed Son The names are the same but the definitions are different
packrat28401 3 years ago
Thank you for your comments.
Mormon Articles of faith show the flaws in Mormon doctrine. God was once a man and he earned, attained or progressed into being a god by good works. "As man is, god once was"
Prophet Joseph Smith said" God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits in yonder heavens!" Mormon Elohiym was once a man...
packrat23456 3 years ago
A Christian is a follower of the real, resurrected, living Lord Jesus Christ. And not a follower of a false prophet whom uses the name of Jesus and small portions of the bible to build a religious empire. The Buddhist, the JWs and LDS have each created a different Jesus from each other. This is a counterfeit and all three are wrong according to the Christian Bible. Thank you for your comment, I hope we can be friends.
packrat28401 3 years ago
You have no idea who the "real" Jesus is . You are just blindly following the blind. You have no knowledge of other religions. I hope we can be friends too....LOL, I love how you put that last part in after slandering religions...hahaha
highflydanger 3 years ago
well if you knew anything about the mormon religion then you would know what i'm talking about, wouldnt you. so maby you should know what your going to start before you open your mouth.
blueanglegirl 3 years ago
you know, i feel sorry for you. you must feel confused or angry about something so your taking it out on other(or other religions). mormons have been persecuted sence they became a church and i see that as another reason to belong to them. but your just the same as those men who killed smith and drove the mormons to utah and caused so many to die in the cold. so congrads, your a decriminator.
blueanglegirl 3 years ago
you.... need to calm down.... lol man your crazy haha.... who died in the cold? the men who killed "smith" did the right thing.. you fool and whats wrong with utah? nothing its fine your acting like they forced them to move into the valley of the dead or something.
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
There is nothing wrong now, but if it wasn't for the LDS people Utah would still be a wasteland of desert and sagebrush. And after being forced out of several other states in a way, yes, the LDS were forced into the west. Oh, and by saying that those men did the right thing in killing smith...no...you see, that is what they thought too, but the LDS church is still growing.
highflydanger 3 years ago
yea i know like a rash, on judgement day your gonna wish you listened to me
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
On judgement day you are going to wish you hadn't listened to your preacher or your parents who can only spread lies about the LDS church. Takes some time to listen to the truth and maybe you'll see.
highflydanger 3 years ago
I think the easiest way to tell true Christians is if they preach something different from the bible. Its really that simple. The Jesus of the bible didn't have 3 wives lol. Mormons are just easy targets, but they aren't the only ones preaching things that are not bible supported. Anytime you see someone whip out another book "because the bible is too complicated" then you should be ready to hear an opinion or sometimes perversion of the bible.
mystynight 4 years ago
ah yeah i am mormon and i find this offencive. i am too a christian because i belive in god and jesus and the holy gost. just because we dont belive in all of them being one person dosnt prove anyting! if your going by what this man is saying then all churches are not christain because all churches have differant views on god and jesus. so think about what u post before you go acusing people of not being christains becaues you are discriminatig a bit.
blueanglegirl 4 years ago
It's called Mormophobia. That threatening feeling that the Mormon's are gaining too much momentum world wide. So they drum up a bogus statement like "Mormon's aren't christian" in hopes that it may deter future converts from the truth. Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Fear not, no unhallowed hand can stop this work from going forth.
martidw 4 years ago 2
what momentum?
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
you are NOT a christian
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Believing in Jesus Christ doesn't constitute being a "christian" and bad mouthing other religions is? Interesting. Try reading Matt. 5:44, those are the true "christians". In the mean time we'll still be praying for you.
martidw 3 years ago 2
lol sorry i just didnt know what you were talking about when you said "momentum" there is no momentum. give it 60 maybe 80 years mormomism will be done and over with, everyone will only remember it as a religious hoax that some drunk fool read the BOM out of a hat and it will eventually fade in history, i just wish it would come sooner so the church will stop damning people to hell
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
From 6 members to over 12 million in over 150 countries and growing by 200+ thousand each year is not momentum to you? Your ignorance about the LDS faith is quite normal actually. In 80 years we might just rule the world. Don't worry I'm sure you won't be around to curse our success.
martidw 3 years ago
lol OK compared to the 2.1 billion REAL christians in the world ... good luck with ruling the world and stuff..
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
That is a daunting task, but Rome wasn't built in a day you know.
martidw 3 years ago
stop dreaming it will never happen
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Stop worring, you'll never be a part of it.
revelations146 3 years ago
its ok hell isnt really for me anyways
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
he was only kidding you stiff
blueanglegirl 3 years ago
Wow, for someone who lives in Utah you really know nothing about the LDS religion.....reading things out of a hat...you are getting two Anti-Mormon claims mixed up. You can't even bash correctly!
highflydanger 3 years ago
your not a christian give it up
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Sorry but I will NOT stop believing and worshipping Jesus Christ even though you are begging me to. Luke 4:8
martidw 3 years ago
lol what the frik, when the hell did i say to stop worshipping jesus? see now your just putting wordsin my mouth to make me seem like the bad guy
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
We claim to be Christian. The definition of being a Christian is to have a belief in Jesus Christ. That's what we believe in and we are the only church who bear's His holy name (The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). You say I'm not Christian and to give it up. What else would that imply?
martidw 3 years ago
we believe in a totally different jesus you just stole his name, you guys believe that jesus's dad was a "god" named eloheim or whatever MY jesus the REAL one if the son of god not elodouchebag, and lucifer was jesus's brother? i think not.
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Stole? No, you believe that God created himself into a person named Jesus Christ. We just find it absurd thinking that someone could be his own son? Three in one and one in three is a contradiction in terminology. You believe that Jesus Christ was resurrected but are not sure if He still has His body today? You might say He does but are torn by the scripture that "God is a Spirit". Sorry but you really don't know who Jesus is.
revelations146 3 years ago
hey just because you think that its absurd doesnt mean that it can be. you cant see the wind but its still there you cant see heat but its still exists
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
God is NOT a God of confusion. Someone or something that is three different people in one body or substance defies logic. Of course its the Christian belief that God's incomprehensible. Definition of incomprehensible: "Impossible to know or fathom". This is life eternal, to KNOW thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. There lies your great mystery.
revelations146 3 years ago
GOD you fool defies logic! and i dont even know or care what the hell you are talking about
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Exactly!
revelations146 3 years ago
LOLOLOLOL that didnt even make sense you just contradicted yourself! hey just like the book of morons! wow what a coincidence
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Hysterically befuddled cyreneiscool?
revelations146 3 years ago
what the hell................
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Its funny how some people, like you, ignorantly pass a biased judgement on something they have never read. Keep listening to your crack-job preacher, I'm sure you'll learn a lot more.
highflydanger 3 years ago
well to our eyes you are
blueanglegirl 3 years ago
umm... ok and who the hell are you? i dont.... believe anyone was talking to you..
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
well what do u expect mormons are calling themselves christians we want people to know we are not anything like you, including now because of what is happening in texas (yes i know they are flds and u are lds ... close enough they came from your beliefs)
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Thank you! Now I know you don't know ONE THING about our church.
martidw 3 years ago
alright fool ask me a question then if i dont know anything
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Ok, what is the difference between the FLDS and LDS? Different name doesn't count.
martidw 3 years ago
the flds broke branched off of the lds church because polygamy was outlawed but the flds still believed in it
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Isn't Google wonderful.
revelations146 3 years ago
yea it is isnt it go look up "mind your own business" and see what pops up
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Sorry, I seriously doubt you'll know that one so I'll give you an easy one. What is the first and foremost thing we as "Mormon's" believe in? I'll give you a hint; It's our first article of faith.
martidw 3 years ago
hmm lets think? ..... bullshit
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
I KNEW IT!!!!
revelations146 3 years ago
ok...
cyreneiscool0 3 years ago
Thank you for the comment my friend Mormons have never been considered Christians because Smith and Young invented a new Jesus This invented Jesus was not the same as the true Jesus of the Bible To be a Christian one must be a follower of Christ Gods anointed Son The names are the same but the definitions are different
packrat28401 4 years ago
it seems to me you'er a little confused. But I certianly respect your right to belive what you will. If it helps you any, LDS members (Mormons) follow the teachings of Christ as best they know how, and are therefore christians.
Zancett 4 years ago
Thank you for the comment my friend Mormons have never been considered Christians because Smith and Young invented a new Jesus This invented Jesus was not the same as the true Jesus of the Bible To be a Christian one must be a follower of Christ Gods anointed Son The names are the same but the definitions are different
packrat28401 4 years ago