people that comment on this video with their blindness are 100% brainwashed by the mainstream media, they try to tell you that you are wrong when you are truthful and observant, although i see allot of people believe and that is good thing. it says i need to have been referred for democracy forum.co.uk
Cameron you are legally obliged to take us into a referendum ! The EU are bringing out extra VAT tax increases solely for their pockets. If taxes are issued under the Lisbon Treaty we are obliged to a referendum ....& if you don't the UK government will be taken to court by it's people......don't humiliate yourself Cameron
Please write letters, with pens and paper to your MEPs, MPs and PM Cameron to get us out of this utter mess. Don't bother just blogging, twittering or emailing, write a letter a week. The EU is responsible for most of the poorly constructed one size fits all regulations the UK follows unswervingly (unlike the others). Its sucking out our money. The grants they give out comes from us originally with them taking a 30% cut , please everyone WAKE UP !
@crazyboyxx by the way, ur maths is a bit confused or very carefully chosen as the UK is among one of the EU nations that has highest muslim population after France and Germany. Switzerland's " gasp" islamic invasion is at mighty 4.2% out of a population of 8,0000,000 inhabitants is hardly over swamped!
@crazyboy the only F. moron is u to take my opinion to your level. I've had lived in the UK long enough to draw a comparison (admittely biased). Why Switzerland should be jelous of the UK or the EU at all? The UK went begging to join the EU in the '70s as it economy was on the floor (unlike neutral Switzeland) and you complain bitterly today lol! As for the history, no country can claim moral high ground neither Switzerland nor the UK with its less than savory colonial past.
This video is irrelevantly proposterous in my opinion. First of all the UK is a constitutional monarchy which in itself is hardly democratic. That means an hereditary regent who not only is not hold to account of his/her actions but also holds considerable loobying power over state and church, military affairs(after all the Queen is Commander-in- Chief of the armed forces and head of the CE).
I live in Switzerland where the federal democracy allows both Catholic and Protestants to hold office
Having an elected parliament, and elected heads of states within the council. And it is somehow unelected? Hmmmm. Not sure the makers of this video quite know what 'democratic' means.
Why Britain HAS to leave the corrupt, undemocratic EU?
its simple
usa want britain to leave. usa want destroy eu just like they wanted to destroy soviet union.
they dont need strong potential enemies. they would like to separate every freakin tribe from eachother. so that if one of tribes challanges usa, that usa can destroy this tribe and that no one is willing to help eachother. look what usa did at end of 2nd ww. and if after that u believe theyr lies u r just blind or stupid.
you obviously don't know what u are talking about what do you mean with ''not being Great Brittain anymore" let's see you have your own government,your own currency, your own judgement system and I have never heard about a "European army" unless you're reffering to Nato...
It is with deep shame that I see America/Britain fade into obscurity. Only to be replaced with...what? A revitalized militant Europe on the scene? Has anyone read History? The farther we look back the more we see what lies ahead. I submit to you that it all spells doom for the English-Speaking Peoples. Picture a Religiously Revitalized Europe rearming with a Militant Mission to stamp out opposition starting with Iran and ending with dominating The U.S./U.K. Fiction?...WATCH and SEE.
The British people are rather lukewarm when it comes to the EU. We prefer to look out to the open sea rather than across the Channel. Our political class on the other hand are obsessed with this corrupt and antidemocratic scam. Why the disparity between us and our politicians? It is almost as if their enthusiasm has been bought. Vast bribes might have been offered to select VIP's to keep them on-side with a promise that nobody will ever know where they got their vast individual wealth from.
@DigbyCaballero and an overpaid job with benefits most can only dream of in the eu when they get kicked out of the UK parliament? Don't forget to pick up your £250 for signing into work and then immediatly leaving for home too !
The British people think that they are special just because they live on that island , they don't want EU beceause this means to be in the "same spot " with other poor country , they want to be Empire , the center of it not a part , a region , a state in a Federal Europe (just like the russians ) .
British have join the EU because of the market , because of its own intrest not because they belive in United Europe .
Energy sources without the need for fuel or energy input exist ,But Elite controllers don't want ppl to be free from the costs of energy,Get a real free energy motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Big change is comming soon!
The English-speaking world has had to fix Euro-trash disasters 3 times already when you count containing the Soviet Union. No American/Canadian/Aussie/Kiwi will let the Continent steal your/our freedom if we can help it. The Communists in our countries are trying to take ours too.
The more you centralize power, the more you destroy... Period. Greedy politicos? Monopolistic businessmen? Illuminati? Who the fuck cares.
The solution is the same, no matter where you wish to throw the blame. DECENTRALIZE POWER, and quit arguing about why. The WHY is evident to every thinking person. Take your advice from Socrates... from Jesus, from Mises, Rothbard, anyone!!! It is the same advice. Blame whoever you like, but FIX IT.
Yes, please abandon the EU and establish the United Commonwealth Federation with us 15 realms (should be easy enough, we share the same sovereign) and possibly the whole 54 Commonwealth nations, which would be sort of like a modern, more egalitarian version of the empire.
Now that would be a superpower able to rival these fake undemocratic ones. Plus, we'd get to call ourself the Federation, which would make it that much cooler.
The Euro is a big shit. Ever since every country in the EU has euro. They have to pay enormous taxes because of it. That's how greece collapsed! EU is bunch of sickheads.
The euro is collapsing. Greece will almost certainly leave or be pushed out and others will follow. If Britain left this corrupt, undemocratic union we would be £6billion better off each year. Thats the NET amount we pay in more than we get back. Isn't that the same amount the government is now having to cut from our debt? we could clear our debt left by labour in double time and have our independence back ! seems like a good bet to me !
@VincentPhil Kick Britain out then. It is holding your glorious 4th Reich back. Kick Britain out, because the British are never going to accept being a part of it. Make it happen.
And won't be kicked out because 1) it's against the european values of openness and friendship between nations 2) it's legally impossible (hard to understand coming from medieval common law, sorry)
Besides, why is it you wanting "england uber alles", but me the nazi?
@VincentPhil This is the problem. We don't WANT to be part of the cult any more. We were lied to, to get us in and we don't like the terms and conditions. I don't know why, but paying billions to be told what to do, just doesn't seem like a great deal.
European values have nothing to do with what the EU wants. I like Europe, I hate the EU. The EU is all about what liars, control merchants and a bizarre mixture of wannabe Communists and Nazis want.
@VincentPhil This is the problem. We don't WANT to be part of the cult any more. We were lied to, to get us in and we don't like the terms and conditions. I don't know why, but paying billions to be told what to do, just doesn't seem like a great deal.
European values have nothing to do with what the EU wants. I like Europe, I hate the EU. The EU is all about what liars, control merchants and a bizarre mixture of wannabe Communists and Nazis want.
@VincentPhil 2) I hear that a number of Nazis and Communists call common law medieval. It's a bit like saying freedom is out of fashion. That's why I don't listen to the Commies or Nazis (who are actually basically two sides of the same fascist coin.
And yes I have heard of Godwin's law. It's what wannabe Nazi's scream, every time they have been rumbled.
@mkpdavies: 4th Reich, my ass, you're the 51st state of the united states of America. The EU couldn't keep you from licking the Global Village Idiot's ass (*) and going to Iraq.
(*) George W. Bush (the worst american president ever)
@mkpdavies You do realise that the nationalism you are spouting makes you more of a Nazi then any of the EU, right? We are a crumbling nation with no money, no resources, an ageing population, poor education system and a high crime rate mixed with low health. And all your worried about is nationalism? Take a look in the mirror.
@VincentPhil When do policemen fire upon people in the UK? They don't carry guns on patrol. Idiot. As for the people who choose not to vote, who gives a shit? If they were that bothered they'd take to the streets, 60% of the population could begin a revolution. Cameras are on the streets in other nations, we just have alot because we have to watch every corner due to the liberalisation of how police/courts work. You want a Democracy? Then get used to a failing system, because that's what it is.
@VincentPhil UK is the weakest democracy in the EU. But it is a democracy unlike the EU. Cameras in the street, yes, and coming to an area near you soon c/o the EU. I'm sure European police officers shoot people too and all of them carry guns not just specialists. No Human Rights Act, No Judicial Reviews? Wrong. -40% of people, umm good maths. If you want a country called Europe insist on it through the European Peoples Iniative, take the blinkers of Europe's eyes, more than us will want out.
@VincentPhil ; What utter garbage, Im a brit who has worked all over Europe, the same crap happens in every E.U. land ...Do some reading and research before you post ignorance.
@VincentPhil says a man thats country hasn't had a Government for months and which would sink without trace if it were not for all the eu jobs in his country. and FYI. the UK is the mother of all democracies which we exported to all corners of the globe.
Why is India the largest democracy? The UK
Whose democracy and law is the USA's based on ? The UK
Who has an unwritten constitution that can be changed to suit the time we live in? the UK
@VincentPhil Who drew up the european human rights ? Winston churchill of The UK
Yes our laws are or were based on common law stretching back to laws from court cases from ordinary people of the Uk and their values and believes. The USA's is also based on our common law. Maybe this is why we tend to feel closer to americans than continental europeans, we have more in common and if it weren't for the UK and USA always siding with each other maybe you would be talking german now !
@Splitbelgium am i meant to apologise for Nelson defeating napoleon and liberating europe.It makes me wonder sometimes why my forfathers faught and dies to liberate europe so often. I see now why you love the eu, you obviously like being dictated to. Theres no hope for some people eh.
@VincentPhil BUT, the fact remains if you want to be in the eu and have napolionic law etc then that is your right BUT it should also be our right to leave the eu as mkpdavies said paying billions more in to a club and getting no return or favours from that club and indeed being told what to do and to change our way of life seems like a pretty poor deal.
@VincentPhil am i meant to apologise for Nelson defeating napoleon and liberating europe.It makes me wonder sometimes why my forfathers faught and dies to liberate europe so often. I see now why you love the eu, you obviously like being dictated to. Theres no hope for some people eh.
@nicklonuk2006 defeating napoleon and liberating europe? wtf r u talking about? nelson died 8 years before napoleon was defeated. nelson just deffended england somewhere at beginning of napoleons career. england and austria had war with france. nelson was able to destroy frensh fleet but napoleon got austria.
@VincentPhil Don't you find it funny that this video says 'Vote for REAL democracy'. As if real democracy is only their viewpoint? Any other viewpoint, of course, is not real democracy. It is hilarious to see people calling others Nazi and Communist, when their own videos and own comments are more Nazi and Communist than the flip side.
@Wolfhaines Everybody thinks he has the only one truth. What bothers me the most is indeed the name calling. People use nazi and communist at every sentence like it means nothing. It's fear-based propaganda, and indeed very typical of authoritarian mindsets.
Oh well, people are people, and this is Youtube, you can't expect too much.
@meronmotors This incident happened during the terrorist paranoïa. Security forces around strategic points (like metro stations) were armed, and allowed to shoot people who did not freeze on warning, even if they were unarmed or not dangerous
A brazilian guy saw the police come for him, paniqued, and ran. He got shot in the back and died
This sort of thing wouldn't have happened in a continental constitutional democracy, with proper checks and balances, were antiterrorist laws get struck down
@VincentPhil Im sorry but I have to disagree with you. I live in a constitutional Democracy.The US of A. We used to be able to shoot down shit laws. Or make them get stuck in congress for years.However after 9/11 they started the PATRIOT act. Which pretty much jumps over our constitution.Look it up if you have a chance. Even with our constitution which was written by a paranoid, who didnt trust goverments and had a bad taste in his mouth from the british. They managed to sneak through the cracks
@meronmotors I know, that's why i wrote continental constitutionnal. The US Constitution was written at a time where the thinking on constitutionnal mechanisms was very young, and although its checks and balances are very pure on paper, they are not refined in the way constitutions such as Germany's (for instance): in the US the supreme court is a political organ, legislative representatives can basically be bought out by pet projects, political accountability is only individual...
Cameras is the street: Only in The UK- lol bullshit cameras are in every major city idiot.
Police firing at unarmed people- Wow u r a retard just because we dont hear about it in other countries dont mean it dont happen else where you ignorant oblivious egotistical neanderthral
no constitution??? Every single bit of legislation is a constitution and we should be happy that it is uncodified and flexible so it can change to meet a changing society.
@VincentPhil I think the EU should kick Britain out. And not just from the EU but from every other European organization as well as the Common Market. And that it should be Europe that should fill up the Chunnel and cancel the ferries and flights to Britain. Let's see how that would go for Britain now that they don't have an Empire anymore.
This democratic index is from the economist intelligence unit, a (very) british company (yes, commercial company), tied to the right-leaning economist magazine (otherwise of good quality, but very politicaly oriented)
France being stamped as a "flawed democracy" is totally accurate, but the high ranking of Britain, and even worse, the US, is wery questionnable.
@fireinthegol Live that mkpdavies alone, he is just a fucking nationalist, look at his profil.He told about rich areas making bussines all over the world, providing jobs and wealth, but I never heard about a british company in my country, and we have a free country now and a free market.
@fireinthegol I want individual companies to be able to trade with each other and markets freely no matter where they are in the world. Poor areas will then be able to grow out of being poor, while rich areas will be able to start up businesses all over the world, providing jobs and wealth. The only caveat is to prevent monopolies abusing their power to destroy other businesses, which should be down to the nation state.
@mkpdavies Give me a breake, my country is free now, and we have a free market , no borders and taxes for E.U. countries , but I never heard about a british bussinesman coming in my country to provide jobs and wealth.You are just some fucking nationalists.
@mkpdavies Bullshit, we have a free country and a free market , no borders for your bussinesmen, but I never heard about a british companie coming in my country providing jobs and wealth. I think you are too nationalists.
@mkpdavies Give me a breake, my country is free now, and we have a free market but I never heard about a british company to invest in my area, to provide jobs and wealth.You are to nationalists to do that.
@fireinthegol Who cares if Europe's population is stabilizing. That's a good thing in my book as this planet can't sustain unlimited amounts of us and if our populations naturally are levelling out then that is good. . Britain wants to do free trade with Europe and the rest of the world, that means no taxes in either direction. Subsidies prop up the inefficient, weak and bad at the expense of the good, making the whole world poorer.
Depend on Europe? You're having a laugh. Britain has been subsiding the EU (not Europe, we should trade with Europe) for decades.
The sooner all nations of Europe realise that a centralised bunch of commies and crooks is bad of all of us, the sooner we can stop falling behind the rest of the world.
Amazing, they have one of the most powerfull country in E.U. but they still complain so much, my country blows-up because euro prices, we lost our jobs in our country, 1/3 of my peoples must emmigrate to get a job , but, guess what, we are still in E.U. and we don't complain like those british pussies.
@mkpdavies Excuse-me, mister Majestic, those "slaves" fought against russians in ww2, and they still have balls, but, if you don't understand what is mean a sacrifice for ideea of European Union, then , you are just a selfish moron.
@crazyboyxx The EU is great.. I'm ashamed to be British for many reasons, people with mind-sets like yours is one of them. Thanks to the EU and the Eurozone, I was able to move/work to/in Germany to live with my gf.
My father immigrated to Germany long before the EU, as did my mom. So why should we have such a paternalistic bureaucratic monster to reign us like what this Europe Idea has turned into meanwhile?
@tresckow agreed. That's the spirit! Don't just sit back and hope for it though, MAKE it happen. You don't want us in your little empire. Kick us out so you can progress to the new soviet dream you so desire unhindered.
the lisbon treaty is the first step towards the EEC been run by the bankers thast now run the usa they started with greece FEWbankers to be allowed to print money based on FA thet we all have to use to trade our goods n services its like me printing money u all have to use to trade with work ALL u want i can ALWAYS print more i can cause booms reseesions Repossesions for me till i gat u all by the balls wake up to the REAL enemy
of course But WHO owns n runs monsato? the imf so called bs world bank fed res AIPEC AEI WHO prints money on FA reserves outside ANY CONTROL "THE MONEY MASTERS"
THE SAME BANKERS THAT FINANCE uk fRANCE IN THEIR 100 YEARS WARS MAKING SURE NO ONE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO WIN THE LONGER THE WAR THE MORE THEIR BLOOD PROFIT so many died from both sides fuck them time the UK belonged to the UK ppl how comes the whole world owe its balls off to few scamy greedy bankers? stop using the monopoly money
@salekh01 muslim are alright - we should follow their example and ban usary and interest banking full stop - start spreading the wealth and taking care of our communities whatever race/religion etc, and stop raping the third world to satisfy the greedy demands of the bankers and their puppets/accomplices - peace to all!
@polygamous1 100% agree mate - it is scary - clearly they greatly influenced history just through control and manipulation of economy - people are so naive to think i couldn't be happening today... their time is up - they used to assasinate those who rose up or stood in their way... countless monarchs and presidents over the years have tried to reform this evil system, we need honour them and continue the fight! that kind of control is no longer possible in this truely enlightened age, lets riot
1.) there is simply no European Army and there will not be one in near future, since every single member state has veto power on such matters - same goes for police and justice
2.) Central Bank - surely neither you nor I or the most people have enough knowledge of economics to dare judging about such important issues as monetary policy. Leaving this to experts is very likely to prevent us from harm.
3.) Surveillance is a particular British issue - you won't even have to show your ID card when going to other EU countries. There are rarely any cameras in France or Germany. This is therefore not the EU's fault.
4.) fishing is funny - certainly the last centuries were marked by sustainable fishing - probably because there was no industrial mass fishing
5.) Agriculture - be grateful to Margaret Thatcher who negotiated the biggest agricultural EU-subsidies for Britain, not for France!
6.) developing countries - ok, here the video is right...
7.) the European Parliament is a great defendant of European Citizens Rights (see parliamentary VETO of the S.W.I.F.T. agreement which would have transferred European's bank data to the USA for terrorist attack prevention)... So, if you want to make sure that the EU remains or becomes more democratic, then for god's sake VOTE!!! - - - A "rebellion" or something similar like implied by this video won't happen
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first unite countries ,then dilute the population which will create friction and destroy unity, create a major catastrophic event, declare marshal law, bring in the already diluted army and police force that has no loyalty but to their paychecks and masters. stand in food lines and wait for your grub all day, and shut the hell up.....just a theory....hope i'm wrong.
we dont need Britain in the EU if there just going to fucking complain all the time then fuck them if they leave were still more powerful and orginized then they are
Lol and your polish? you come to Britain and take aall of our jobs because your country is too crappy? oh please. Dude the EU super-state is exactly what Hitler wanted and the government have just changed the views around a bit. The EU will be too powerful for its own good, double that of power the USA has now. Britain needs to fight back, with war if need be, BRITISH INDEPENDENCE WOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@blech143 I aggree with you! We're a horrible people, for daring to tell the obese pig of the united states of europe that sits on that toilet in belgium, that they are an unspeakable shower of communist vermin, how dare we tell the bxstards what they realy deseve to hear? Now fxck of back t mordor wi ye, Idiot!
I have every right to do that. Germany was denazified after the war, so here are hardly any Nazis left. So you are one with all the statements you make. Thats also one of the reasons we Germans don't have any problems with the EU, while you do.
So you don't acknowledge the Jews as a people which they were and are? That makes you a nazi, to deny the existance of the jewish people. Jews were not murdered for their religion, no one cared about it.
Deleted? Its still there you retard learn to read. Here is the quote: "Wrong religion lol? You are such a retard. You just claim just a bunch of stuff not really knowing whats it about, what is you age? 10?". So no I didn't delete it.
Because they were murder of their race. The Slavs and Gypsies killed were Christian and were killed because of their race. Religion was not much of an issue for the Nazis. And the original plan was to resettle them all along. Don't they teach you any history in the UK?
Hello??? Someone there? You claimed a second ago that i deny the holocaust. Lets stay with this topic. Just admit that you were wrong and are wrong the whole time.
Hello learn to read and learn history. Do you even know what political leadership is? That doesn't mean they wanted to merge EU into one entity. And you also said, that I said that EU is led by Germany and France and you still didn't quote me. LIAR lol.
Well you are saying, that I said, that the EU is French and German led. Thats why I asked you to quote me, because i can recall that i never said that. Liar.
Well kid, if you have pathological issues i cant help you. Its your problem to believe what your friends tell you, about the EU. Since you have shown a total lack of any kind of knowledge about it.
Ya sure, Germany was not even the original creator of the EEC which later became the EU lol. And do you even know the institutions of the EU and how they work?
Counterqestion how is the conservative minority in UK protected? Till now you only asked questions, but you didn't answerer even one. If you answerer this question, you are there 90%.
As much as im enjoying this debate i must go as i have work in the early hours and have taxes for the EU to give lol. Thanks for the debate and goodnight from England.
If you are implying that the conservatives have the majority in the European parliament then yes they do. But it still doesn't mean anything because there are 2 other organs, the commission and council (Do you even know how decisions are passed in the EU?).
Thanks, the thing is though that the EU cant be good for everyone and it isnt , other countries can and do benefit from this EU, but britain does not. Our businesses for instance are suffering from nearly 17,000 quangos, most of which from the EU cost our business and industry sectors over 250 billion pounds a year in lost economical growth, nearly 2000 quangos are added every year on top of that so things can only get worse.
Why did you say that "EU cant be good for everyone and it isn't", if you say then "other countries can and do benefit from this EU". That is illogical.
By quangos you mean non-departmental public body? How can you suffer from that? Do explain if quangos also stands for something else.
As an atheist im use to making debunking videos against those who believe in an inisible skydaddy, but i can make a video if you like debunking these beliefs in an invisible system that also does not exist, you have consitantly changed your arguments saying we get something wrong in one comment then acknowledge it in another comment just because it suits your point at the time, which then backs up more points as to why we dont support the EU, u must be getting desperate, not us.
I cant recall that i changed my point at any time since this discussion is running. And i didn't call for this discussion to stop either, unlike your side did.
I already read it. And 2 against 1 lol? We are on a: Why Britain HAS to leave the corrupt, undemocratic EU! video, so its logical that more people will be against the EU then for it. But currently i countered all your arguments, so its probably just you who is getting nervous right now, since you want that I leave. Cant stand to an argument?
NO NO NO, you are not countering my arguments, you are making excuses and i am not getting nervous because i have a whole shit load more ammo yet to use. You have not answered my points, you respond in the same manner someone would do when arguing against those who believe in god, they dont like criticsism. I am a debunker, this video was made in 2006 and we have found out a whole lot more things that we dont like about the EU and many of its policies. Please your not trying now
Tell me how should I put my answerer, since i cant recall that i made any excuse for nothing. At least I can say that your questions are more rational then the one of mitchking2006, who doesn't even seem to understand what the EU is.
Do you understand that on many legislations politicians are told what to vote on their papers, the voting processing system is very ineffective and is sometimes dont with the show of hands and counted in a second, something fishy there, wouldnt you say lol.
No they are not. Cause the council of the EU represents all the states and laws which are presented by the EU commission have to be accepted by all states. And I think you don't understand, the parliament represents the political ideology of citizens, so people don't vote for states but for parties. You do understand how the EU works right?
Your highlighting our points again m8, you have just acknowledged that laws by the EU commission have to be accepted by all states, thats one aspect we dont like, even the U.S state system is more free than this. The EU does not represent the ideology of the citizens otherwise so many wouldnt be against it, not even our political parties have the proper power to decide what is and isnt implemented, its done in secret, are you sure you know how the EU system works m8.
the most common word in EU is 'stabilization' Mr.Nigel Farage say, the most common word in english is 'have', is it?
ej06lukaszLMpko 2 months ago
people that comment on this video with their blindness are 100% brainwashed by the mainstream media, they try to tell you that you are wrong when you are truthful and observant, although i see allot of people believe and that is good thing. it says i need to have been referred for democracy forum.co.uk
GauntyCanJump 2 months ago
England will be no better off than somalia in 20 years time, we will be jacking ships in the English channel
TheRacistOwl 4 months ago
Lmao britian is that bad the polish and other eu citizens are leaving, Welcome to the lnd of sand niggers and kikes
TheRacistOwl 4 months ago
I'd hate to say it, but Britain and France are just as bad, even without the EU, in their current form.
Just saying, don't hate me for it.
DixieTrixie101 5 months ago
everyone go to the daily express website and sign the referendum to leave the eu!
sk8rocgirl 7 months ago
Cameron you are legally obliged to take us into a referendum ! The EU are bringing out extra VAT tax increases solely for their pockets. If taxes are issued under the Lisbon Treaty we are obliged to a referendum ....& if you don't the UK government will be taken to court by it's people......don't humiliate yourself Cameron
rewind161 7 months ago
Oh the UK CAN leave the EU , there are exit mechanisms that have been kept quiet up until now in the Lisbon Treaty
rewind161 8 months ago
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Please write letters, with pens and paper to your MEPs, MPs and PM Cameron to get us out of this utter mess. Don't bother just blogging, twittering or emailing, write a letter a week. The EU is responsible for most of the poorly constructed one size fits all regulations the UK follows unswervingly (unlike the others). Its sucking out our money. The grants they give out comes from us originally with them taking a 30% cut , please everyone WAKE UP !
rewind161 8 months ago
@crazyboyxx by the way, ur maths is a bit confused or very carefully chosen as the UK is among one of the EU nations that has highest muslim population after France and Germany. Switzerland's " gasp" islamic invasion is at mighty 4.2% out of a population of 8,0000,000 inhabitants is hardly over swamped!
blackarawak83 8 months ago
@crazyboy the only F. moron is u to take my opinion to your level. I've had lived in the UK long enough to draw a comparison (admittely biased). Why Switzerland should be jelous of the UK or the EU at all? The UK went begging to join the EU in the '70s as it economy was on the floor (unlike neutral Switzeland) and you complain bitterly today lol! As for the history, no country can claim moral high ground neither Switzerland nor the UK with its less than savory colonial past.
blackarawak83 8 months ago
@blackarawak83 The UK originally joined for TRADE only !!!! Not to have CAP, or unification or common tax policies
rewind161 8 months ago
@crazyboyxx
Well said and a big up to you!
I HATE THE EU AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR!!!
hearts76100 8 months ago
I dont want to be more european.......im a BRIT first and foremonst and always will be!!! Sooner we leave the EU the better!!!
Take back control of our country!
hearts76100 8 months ago
This video is irrelevantly proposterous in my opinion. First of all the UK is a constitutional monarchy which in itself is hardly democratic. That means an hereditary regent who not only is not hold to account of his/her actions but also holds considerable loobying power over state and church, military affairs(after all the Queen is Commander-in- Chief of the armed forces and head of the CE).
I live in Switzerland where the federal democracy allows both Catholic and Protestants to hold office
blackarawak83 9 months ago
Having an elected parliament, and elected heads of states within the council. And it is somehow unelected? Hmmmm. Not sure the makers of this video quite know what 'democratic' means.
Wolfhaines 9 months ago
Why Britain HAS to leave the corrupt, undemocratic EU?
its simple
usa want britain to leave. usa want destroy eu just like they wanted to destroy soviet union.
they dont need strong potential enemies. they would like to separate every freakin tribe from eachother. so that if one of tribes challanges usa, that usa can destroy this tribe and that no one is willing to help eachother. look what usa did at end of 2nd ww. and if after that u believe theyr lies u r just blind or stupid.
ILoveSoImAlive 9 months ago
you obviously don't know what u are talking about what do you mean with ''not being Great Brittain anymore" let's see you have your own government,your own currency, your own judgement system and I have never heard about a "European army" unless you're reffering to Nato...
commando1124 10 months ago
It is with deep shame that I see America/Britain fade into obscurity. Only to be replaced with...what? A revitalized militant Europe on the scene? Has anyone read History? The farther we look back the more we see what lies ahead. I submit to you that it all spells doom for the English-Speaking Peoples. Picture a Religiously Revitalized Europe rearming with a Militant Mission to stamp out opposition starting with Iran and ending with dominating The U.S./U.K. Fiction?...WATCH and SEE.
princeeverlove 11 months ago
The British people are rather lukewarm when it comes to the EU. We prefer to look out to the open sea rather than across the Channel. Our political class on the other hand are obsessed with this corrupt and antidemocratic scam. Why the disparity between us and our politicians? It is almost as if their enthusiasm has been bought. Vast bribes might have been offered to select VIP's to keep them on-side with a promise that nobody will ever know where they got their vast individual wealth from.
DigbyCaballero 1 year ago
@DigbyCaballero and an overpaid job with benefits most can only dream of in the eu when they get kicked out of the UK parliament? Don't forget to pick up your £250 for signing into work and then immediatly leaving for home too !
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
A United Europe cannot stand without Britain on it's side!
LONG LIVE EUROPE! LONG LIVE UK
FilosofiadiCazzeggio 1 year ago
But the world is changing and theyr island its shrinking :)
vladma24 1 year ago
The British people think that they are special just because they live on that island , they don't want EU beceause this means to be in the "same spot " with other poor country , they want to be Empire , the center of it not a part , a region , a state in a Federal Europe (just like the russians ) .
British have join the EU because of the market , because of its own intrest not because they belive in United Europe .
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fittingciobb 1 year ago
A quite brilliant video and soundtrack. The EU exposed for the criminal, liar and traitor led organisation that it is.
RedGoblinus 1 year ago
British imperialism is EVIL
crazyfabio1 1 year ago
@crazyfabio1 Lets be honest all imperialism is evil, and Barroso is the man who called the EU an empire.
wjf0ne 1 year ago
The English-speaking world has had to fix Euro-trash disasters 3 times already when you count containing the Soviet Union. No American/Canadian/Aussie/Kiwi will let the Continent steal your/our freedom if we can help it. The Communists in our countries are trying to take ours too.
jkirk1626 1 year ago
The European Union must die so that England can live.
RedGoblinus 1 year ago
The more you centralize power, the more you destroy... Period. Greedy politicos? Monopolistic businessmen? Illuminati? Who the fuck cares.
The solution is the same, no matter where you wish to throw the blame. DECENTRALIZE POWER, and quit arguing about why. The WHY is evident to every thinking person. Take your advice from Socrates... from Jesus, from Mises, Rothbard, anyone!!! It is the same advice. Blame whoever you like, but FIX IT.
DEMOCRACY!
ParrhesiaJoe 1 year ago
@crazyboyxx
Yes, please abandon the EU and establish the United Commonwealth Federation with us 15 realms (should be easy enough, we share the same sovereign) and possibly the whole 54 Commonwealth nations, which would be sort of like a modern, more egalitarian version of the empire.
Now that would be a superpower able to rival these fake undemocratic ones. Plus, we'd get to call ourself the Federation, which would make it that much cooler.
Falwren 1 year ago
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ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
The Euro is a big shit. Ever since every country in the EU has euro. They have to pay enormous taxes because of it. That's how greece collapsed! EU is bunch of sickheads.
MillionBartek 1 year ago
europe is going down the toilet, greece spain uk and its all coz of the eu!
jimmypubeface23 1 year ago
The euro is collapsing. Greece will almost certainly leave or be pushed out and others will follow. If Britain left this corrupt, undemocratic union we would be £6billion better off each year. Thats the NET amount we pay in more than we get back. Isn't that the same amount the government is now having to cut from our debt? we could clear our debt left by labour in double time and have our independence back ! seems like a good bet to me !
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
What a pile of c*ap!
CCLSC 1 year ago
if britain wasnt a part of the eu they would be even more a puppet for the us!!!
skbadsberg 1 year ago
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because they are still too much influenced by U.S.A.
alepuc89 1 year ago
You kidding??
The UK is by farthe weakest democracy in the EU, and has no lessons to give!
Cameras in the streets: only in the UK
Policemen firing at unarmed people: only in the UK
No consitution, no protection of human rights, no judicial review of laws on these basis: UK
Electoral system giving power to governments supported by -40% of people: UK
Going to war whenever the US want: UK
The EU has weak democratic institutions, only because eurosceptics like the british refuse change!
VincentPhil 1 year ago
@VincentPhil Kick Britain out then. It is holding your glorious 4th Reich back. Kick Britain out, because the British are never going to accept being a part of it. Make it happen.
mkpdavies 1 year ago 12
@mkpdavies
The british ARE part of it!
And won't be kicked out because 1) it's against the european values of openness and friendship between nations 2) it's legally impossible (hard to understand coming from medieval common law, sorry)
Besides, why is it you wanting "england uber alles", but me the nazi?
(ps: have you heard of Godwin's law?)
VincentPhil 1 year ago
@VincentPhil This is the problem. We don't WANT to be part of the cult any more. We were lied to, to get us in and we don't like the terms and conditions. I don't know why, but paying billions to be told what to do, just doesn't seem like a great deal.
European values have nothing to do with what the EU wants. I like Europe, I hate the EU. The EU is all about what liars, control merchants and a bizarre mixture of wannabe Communists and Nazis want.
mkpdavies 1 year ago 2
@VincentPhil This is the problem. We don't WANT to be part of the cult any more. We were lied to, to get us in and we don't like the terms and conditions. I don't know why, but paying billions to be told what to do, just doesn't seem like a great deal.
European values have nothing to do with what the EU wants. I like Europe, I hate the EU. The EU is all about what liars, control merchants and a bizarre mixture of wannabe Communists and Nazis want.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
@VincentPhil 2) I hear that a number of Nazis and Communists call common law medieval. It's a bit like saying freedom is out of fashion. That's why I don't listen to the Commies or Nazis (who are actually basically two sides of the same fascist coin.
And yes I have heard of Godwin's law. It's what wannabe Nazi's scream, every time they have been rumbled.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
@VincentPhil The accession to the EU was the greatest act of treason in the history of England.
augustustoplady1 1 year ago 6
@augustustoplady1: Yes, De Gaulle kept you away as long as he lived. Churchill and De Gaulle were great men, Europe was too narrow-minded for them..!
Splitbelgium 1 year ago
@augustustoplady1: opening the european door to America's underdog, THAT was a treason, the sooner you leave , the better
Splitbelgium 1 year ago
@mkpdavies here here !
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
@mkpdavies: 4th Reich, my ass, you're the 51st state of the united states of America. The EU couldn't keep you from licking the Global Village Idiot's ass (*) and going to Iraq.
(*) George W. Bush (the worst american president ever)
Splitbelgium 1 year ago
@mkpdavies You do realise that the nationalism you are spouting makes you more of a Nazi then any of the EU, right? We are a crumbling nation with no money, no resources, an ageing population, poor education system and a high crime rate mixed with low health. And all your worried about is nationalism? Take a look in the mirror.
Wolfhaines 9 months ago
@VincentPhil When do policemen fire upon people in the UK? They don't carry guns on patrol. Idiot. As for the people who choose not to vote, who gives a shit? If they were that bothered they'd take to the streets, 60% of the population could begin a revolution. Cameras are on the streets in other nations, we just have alot because we have to watch every corner due to the liberalisation of how police/courts work. You want a Democracy? Then get used to a failing system, because that's what it is.
CandlesInADaze 1 year ago
@VincentPhil UK is the weakest democracy in the EU. But it is a democracy unlike the EU. Cameras in the street, yes, and coming to an area near you soon c/o the EU. I'm sure European police officers shoot people too and all of them carry guns not just specialists. No Human Rights Act, No Judicial Reviews? Wrong. -40% of people, umm good maths. If you want a country called Europe insist on it through the European Peoples Iniative, take the blinkers of Europe's eyes, more than us will want out.
wjf0ne 1 year ago
@VincentPhil ; What utter garbage, Im a brit who has worked all over Europe, the same crap happens in every E.U. land ...Do some reading and research before you post ignorance.
shgp1956 1 year ago
@shgp1956
I'm a law and policy double major thank you.
You "have been places", talk about research
VincentPhil 1 year ago
@VincentPhil says a man thats country hasn't had a Government for months and which would sink without trace if it were not for all the eu jobs in his country. and FYI. the UK is the mother of all democracies which we exported to all corners of the globe.
Why is India the largest democracy? The UK
Whose democracy and law is the USA's based on ? The UK
Who has an unwritten constitution that can be changed to suit the time we live in? the UK
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
@nicklonuk2006: Belgium is an artificial state that should be parted between France and Netherland.
You're from one of the countries that kept us from joining France in 1830..!
Splitbelgium 1 year ago
@VincentPhil Who drew up the european human rights ? Winston churchill of The UK
Yes our laws are or were based on common law stretching back to laws from court cases from ordinary people of the Uk and their values and believes. The USA's is also based on our common law. Maybe this is why we tend to feel closer to americans than continental europeans, we have more in common and if it weren't for the UK and USA always siding with each other maybe you would be talking german now !
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
@nicklonuk2006: That's right, we're all speaking (poor) english now..! ( german of english, it's not my mother tongue anyway! )
Splitbelgium 1 year ago
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@Splitbelgium am i meant to apologise for Nelson defeating napoleon and liberating europe.It makes me wonder sometimes why my forfathers faught and dies to liberate europe so often. I see now why you love the eu, you obviously like being dictated to. Theres no hope for some people eh.
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
@VincentPhil BUT, the fact remains if you want to be in the eu and have napolionic law etc then that is your right BUT it should also be our right to leave the eu as mkpdavies said paying billions more in to a club and getting no return or favours from that club and indeed being told what to do and to change our way of life seems like a pretty poor deal.
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
@VincentPhil am i meant to apologise for Nelson defeating napoleon and liberating europe.It makes me wonder sometimes why my forfathers faught and dies to liberate europe so often. I see now why you love the eu, you obviously like being dictated to. Theres no hope for some people eh.
nicklonuk2006 1 year ago
@nicklonuk2006 defeating napoleon and liberating europe? wtf r u talking about? nelson died 8 years before napoleon was defeated. nelson just deffended england somewhere at beginning of napoleons career. england and austria had war with france. nelson was able to destroy frensh fleet but napoleon got austria.
ILoveSoImAlive 9 months ago
@VincentPhil Don't you find it funny that this video says 'Vote for REAL democracy'. As if real democracy is only their viewpoint? Any other viewpoint, of course, is not real democracy. It is hilarious to see people calling others Nazi and Communist, when their own videos and own comments are more Nazi and Communist than the flip side.
Wolfhaines 9 months ago
@Wolfhaines Everybody thinks he has the only one truth. What bothers me the most is indeed the name calling. People use nazi and communist at every sentence like it means nothing. It's fear-based propaganda, and indeed very typical of authoritarian mindsets.
Oh well, people are people, and this is Youtube, you can't expect too much.
VincentPhil 9 months ago
@VincentPhil I thought the brit police dont carry guns?
meronmotors 8 months ago
@meronmotors This incident happened during the terrorist paranoïa. Security forces around strategic points (like metro stations) were armed, and allowed to shoot people who did not freeze on warning, even if they were unarmed or not dangerous
A brazilian guy saw the police come for him, paniqued, and ran. He got shot in the back and died
This sort of thing wouldn't have happened in a continental constitutional democracy, with proper checks and balances, were antiterrorist laws get struck down
VincentPhil 8 months ago
@VincentPhil Im sorry but I have to disagree with you. I live in a constitutional Democracy.The US of A. We used to be able to shoot down shit laws. Or make them get stuck in congress for years.However after 9/11 they started the PATRIOT act. Which pretty much jumps over our constitution.Look it up if you have a chance. Even with our constitution which was written by a paranoid, who didnt trust goverments and had a bad taste in his mouth from the british. They managed to sneak through the cracks
meronmotors 8 months ago
@meronmotors I know, that's why i wrote continental constitutionnal. The US Constitution was written at a time where the thinking on constitutionnal mechanisms was very young, and although its checks and balances are very pure on paper, they are not refined in the way constitutions such as Germany's (for instance): in the US the supreme court is a political organ, legislative representatives can basically be bought out by pet projects, political accountability is only individual...
VincentPhil 8 months ago
@meronmotors they have mini-guns. big differance
british123able 6 months ago
@VincentPhil
You complete retard
Cameras is the street: Only in The UK- lol bullshit cameras are in every major city idiot.
Police firing at unarmed people- Wow u r a retard just because we dont hear about it in other countries dont mean it dont happen else where you ignorant oblivious egotistical neanderthral
no constitution??? Every single bit of legislation is a constitution and we should be happy that it is uncodified and flexible so it can change to meet a changing society.
philmarkdance 2 months ago
@VincentPhil I think the EU should kick Britain out. And not just from the EU but from every other European organization as well as the Common Market. And that it should be Europe that should fill up the Chunnel and cancel the ferries and flights to Britain. Let's see how that would go for Britain now that they don't have an Empire anymore.
AmersfoortTristan 2 months ago
@VincentPhil
not true,according to the democracy table on wikipedia the uk is a full democracy where as france is a quote 'flawed democracy'
menacinghat 1 month ago
@menacinghat So, Wikipedia...
This democratic index is from the economist intelligence unit, a (very) british company (yes, commercial company), tied to the right-leaning economist magazine (otherwise of good quality, but very politicaly oriented)
France being stamped as a "flawed democracy" is totally accurate, but the high ranking of Britain, and even worse, the US, is wery questionnable.
I went through the report and it's not explained.
Biased and unsupported ranking?
VincentPhil 1 month ago
@fireinthegol Our population is staying under control which is good, USA and Asia will be the ones not being able to feed there people
andyisapro 1 year ago
not to mension the europeens hate us in eurovision xD
jman6495 1 year ago
FUCK OFF, british nationalists, put a propeller to your fucking island and go fucking closer to your american friends.
cornel10 1 year ago
@cornel10 lol
MrGrafted 1 year ago
Vive independence and democracy down with the EU Monster!
if the EU does not listen to the democratic voice of the people the only option is violence!
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@fireinthegol Live that mkpdavies alone, he is just a fucking nationalist, look at his profil.He told about rich areas making bussines all over the world, providing jobs and wealth, but I never heard about a british company in my country, and we have a free country now and a free market.
cornel10 1 year ago
Whats that for a shit?
fwmoovies 1 year ago
@fireinthegol I want individual companies to be able to trade with each other and markets freely no matter where they are in the world. Poor areas will then be able to grow out of being poor, while rich areas will be able to start up businesses all over the world, providing jobs and wealth. The only caveat is to prevent monopolies abusing their power to destroy other businesses, which should be down to the nation state.
Love Europe, hate the EU.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
@mkpdavies Give me a breake, my country is free now, and we have a free market , no borders and taxes for E.U. countries , but I never heard about a british bussinesman coming in my country to provide jobs and wealth.You are just some fucking nationalists.
cornel10 1 year ago
@mkpdavies Bullshit, we have a free country and a free market , no borders for your bussinesmen, but I never heard about a british companie coming in my country providing jobs and wealth. I think you are too nationalists.
cornel10 1 year ago
@mkpdavies Give me a breake, my country is free now, and we have a free market but I never heard about a british company to invest in my area, to provide jobs and wealth.You are to nationalists to do that.
cornel10 1 year ago
@mkpdavies I never heard about a british company investing in my poor area, you talk bullshit, you are just some fucking nationalists.
cornel10 1 year ago
@fireinthegol Who cares if Europe's population is stabilizing. That's a good thing in my book as this planet can't sustain unlimited amounts of us and if our populations naturally are levelling out then that is good. . Britain wants to do free trade with Europe and the rest of the world, that means no taxes in either direction. Subsidies prop up the inefficient, weak and bad at the expense of the good, making the whole world poorer.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
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Depend on Europe? You're having a laugh. Britain has been subsiding the EU (not Europe, we should trade with Europe) for decades.
The sooner all nations of Europe realise that a centralised bunch of commies and crooks is bad of all of us, the sooner we can stop falling behind the rest of the world.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
Amazing, they have one of the most powerfull country in E.U. but they still complain so much, my country blows-up because euro prices, we lost our jobs in our country, 1/3 of my peoples must emmigrate to get a job , but, guess what, we are still in E.U. and we don't complain like those british pussies.
cornel10 1 year ago
@cornel10
Some people like being slaves. You seem to fit that bill.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
@mkpdavies excuse me what do you mean?
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@mkpdavies Excuse-me, mister Majestic, those "slaves" fought against russians in ww2, and they still have balls, but, if you don't understand what is mean a sacrifice for ideea of European Union, then , you are just a selfish moron.
cornel10 1 year ago
@cornel10 Oh sorry, I've just realised you are special needs. I won't trouble you again.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
@mkpdavies You are very kind , moron, we will see in the next world war, go fuck your own needs.Because you care about your own needs.
cornel10 1 year ago
DEATH TO THE EU!!
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@crazyboyxx The EU is great.. I'm ashamed to be British for many reasons, people with mind-sets like yours is one of them. Thanks to the EU and the Eurozone, I was able to move/work to/in Germany to live with my gf.
S4rl4t4n 1 year ago
@S4rl4t4n
My father immigrated to Germany long before the EU, as did my mom. So why should we have such a paternalistic bureaucratic monster to reign us like what this Europe Idea has turned into meanwhile?
mischnix 1 year ago
@tresckow agreed. That's the spirit! Don't just sit back and hope for it though, MAKE it happen. You don't want us in your little empire. Kick us out so you can progress to the new soviet dream you so desire unhindered.
mkpdavies 1 year ago
WHERE DOES IT STATE THIS
salekh01 1 year ago
no they werent. what muslims RE YOU BARKING ABOUT?
salekh01 1 year ago
i see that even GB is hooked by EU. what a pity... :(
AvrupaBirligiKarsiti 1 year ago 2
We should join the American continent if we should ever go to war with the EU.
kingwoopicushion 1 year ago
That would be good
salekh01 1 year ago
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So...the U.K. will be called the United Kubans of Europe..lol
NUNOQUADROS 2 years ago
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So...the U.K. will be called the United Kubans of Europe..lol
NUNOQUADROS 2 years ago
the lisbon treaty is the first step towards the EEC been run by the bankers thast now run the usa they started with greece FEWbankers to be allowed to print money based on FA thet we all have to use to trade our goods n services its like me printing money u all have to use to trade with work ALL u want i can ALWAYS print more i can cause booms reseesions Repossesions for me till i gat u all by the balls wake up to the REAL enemy
polygamous1 2 years ago 2
of course But WHO owns n runs monsato? the imf so called bs world bank fed res AIPEC AEI WHO prints money on FA reserves outside ANY CONTROL "THE MONEY MASTERS"
THE SAME BANKERS THAT FINANCE uk fRANCE IN THEIR 100 YEARS WARS MAKING SURE NO ONE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO WIN THE LONGER THE WAR THE MORE THEIR BLOOD PROFIT so many died from both sides fuck them time the UK belonged to the UK ppl how comes the whole world owe its balls off to few scamy greedy bankers? stop using the monopoly money
polygamous1 2 years ago
Kill every jews and the muslims return home.
salekh01 2 years ago
@salekh01 muslim are alright - we should follow their example and ban usary and interest banking full stop - start spreading the wealth and taking care of our communities whatever race/religion etc, and stop raping the third world to satisfy the greedy demands of the bankers and their puppets/accomplices - peace to all!
rugbyboy198127 1 year ago
@polygamous1 100% agree mate - it is scary - clearly they greatly influenced history just through control and manipulation of economy - people are so naive to think i couldn't be happening today... their time is up - they used to assasinate those who rose up or stood in their way... countless monarchs and presidents over the years have tried to reform this evil system, we need honour them and continue the fight! that kind of control is no longer possible in this truely enlightened age, lets riot
rugbyboy198127 1 year ago
Now, lets analyse the arguments...
1.) there is simply no European Army and there will not be one in near future, since every single member state has veto power on such matters - same goes for police and justice
2.) Central Bank - surely neither you nor I or the most people have enough knowledge of economics to dare judging about such important issues as monetary policy. Leaving this to experts is very likely to prevent us from harm.
Legilimentable 2 years ago
3.) Surveillance is a particular British issue - you won't even have to show your ID card when going to other EU countries. There are rarely any cameras in France or Germany. This is therefore not the EU's fault.
4.) fishing is funny - certainly the last centuries were marked by sustainable fishing - probably because there was no industrial mass fishing
5.) Agriculture - be grateful to Margaret Thatcher who negotiated the biggest agricultural EU-subsidies for Britain, not for France!
Legilimentable 2 years ago
6.) developing countries - ok, here the video is right...
7.) the European Parliament is a great defendant of European Citizens Rights (see parliamentary VETO of the S.W.I.F.T. agreement which would have transferred European's bank data to the USA for terrorist attack prevention)... So, if you want to make sure that the EU remains or becomes more democratic, then for god's sake VOTE!!! - - - A "rebellion" or something similar like implied by this video won't happen
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davidsimonsean 2 years ago
first unite countries ,then dilute the population which will create friction and destroy unity, create a major catastrophic event, declare marshal law, bring in the already diluted army and police force that has no loyalty but to their paychecks and masters. stand in food lines and wait for your grub all day, and shut the hell up.....just a theory....hope i'm wrong.
dangermous1968 2 years ago 4
we dont need Britain in the EU if there just going to fucking complain all the time then fuck them if they leave were still more powerful and orginized then they are
blech143 2 years ago
Way to go blech143, that's the spirit!
Get Britain Out, Get Britain Out!
mkpdavies 2 years ago 2
Lol and your polish? you come to Britain and take aall of our jobs because your country is too crappy? oh please. Dude the EU super-state is exactly what Hitler wanted and the government have just changed the views around a bit. The EU will be too powerful for its own good, double that of power the USA has now. Britain needs to fight back, with war if need be, BRITISH INDEPENDENCE WOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hurro67 2 years ago 4
omg im sick of hearing that ok i live in poland i have all my life so shut up number 2 a united europe is a good thing
blech143 2 years ago
@blech143 get back to cleaning my toilet you polish immigrant, enjoy being led under a dictatorship. .
carlosthepwner2 1 year ago
@blech143 I aggree with you! We're a horrible people, for daring to tell the obese pig of the united states of europe that sits on that toilet in belgium, that they are an unspeakable shower of communist vermin, how dare we tell the bxstards what they realy deseve to hear? Now fxck of back t mordor wi ye, Idiot!
morearrows 1 year ago
omg your so stupid dude the EU is the European nations so why would they want to terrorize them selves
blech143 2 years ago
D E A T H T O E U !!!!
14Srb88 2 years ago 13
I have every right to do that. Germany was denazified after the war, so here are hardly any Nazis left. So you are one with all the statements you make. Thats also one of the reasons we Germans don't have any problems with the EU, while you do.
Teranex 2 years ago
So you don't acknowledge the Jews as a people which they were and are? That makes you a nazi, to deny the existance of the jewish people. Jews were not murdered for their religion, no one cared about it.
Teranex 2 years ago
In the specific European manner Jew is de facto the designation for the Hebrew people in Europe. So yea so much to your theory.
Teranex 2 years ago
Deleted? Its still there you retard learn to read. Here is the quote: "Wrong religion lol? You are such a retard. You just claim just a bunch of stuff not really knowing whats it about, what is you age? 10?". So no I didn't delete it.
Teranex 2 years ago
Because they were murder of their race. The Slavs and Gypsies killed were Christian and were killed because of their race. Religion was not much of an issue for the Nazis. And the original plan was to resettle them all along. Don't they teach you any history in the UK?
Teranex 2 years ago
The ones I deleted, cant you read?
Teranex 2 years ago
Grammar error: I didn't delete any of my comments.
Teranex 2 years ago
Have I ever stated I don't? And I deleted any of my comments, I only deleted 2 of your comments because they were racist.
Teranex 2 years ago
I didn't delete any of my comments on the holocaust. I deleted just yours cause they are racist.
Teranex 2 years ago
Rubbish? Its you who is vomiting bullshit 24/7.
Teranex 2 years ago
Hello??? Someone there? You claimed a second ago that i deny the holocaust. Lets stay with this topic. Just admit that you were wrong and are wrong the whole time.
Teranex 2 years ago
Well I certainly know you are one. Making references to the holocaust and mocking the EU.
Teranex 2 years ago
Because of their race and not their religion. Slavs were Christians and were also murdered. Dont you know?
Teranex 2 years ago
As I said I have never denied it. You just like to make up stuff about stuff you have no knowledge, one of which is also the EU.
Teranex 2 years ago
Are you are retard or just like to pretend to be one?
Teranex 2 years ago
I never denied it. I have just said that you are stupid to think that they were killed by the Germans because of their religion.
Teranex 2 years ago
Well if you would take anything I have said seriously, you would actually learn something lol.
Teranex 2 years ago
Hello learn to read and learn history. Do you even know what political leadership is? That doesn't mean they wanted to merge EU into one entity. And you also said, that I said that EU is led by Germany and France and you still didn't quote me. LIAR lol.
Teranex 2 years ago
Was that a lie or lack of knowledge? Because if it was a lie, everything you said was a lie.
Teranex 2 years ago
Well you are saying, that I said, that the EU is French and German led. Thats why I asked you to quote me, because i can recall that i never said that. Liar.
Teranex 2 years ago
Well kid, if you have pathological issues i cant help you. Its your problem to believe what your friends tell you, about the EU. Since you have shown a total lack of any kind of knowledge about it.
Teranex 2 years ago
Ya sure, Germany was not even the original creator of the EEC which later became the EU lol. And do you even know the institutions of the EU and how they work?
Teranex 2 years ago
What do you refer to?
Teranex 2 years ago
Counterqestion how is the conservative minority in UK protected? Till now you only asked questions, but you didn't answerer even one. If you answerer this question, you are there 90%.
Teranex 2 years ago
As much as im enjoying this debate i must go as i have work in the early hours and have taxes for the EU to give lol. Thanks for the debate and goodnight from England.
01101100d 2 years ago
KK was nice to chat with you, till next time.
Teranex 2 years ago
I never said that, please quote if I did?
Teranex 2 years ago
If you are implying that the conservatives have the majority in the European parliament then yes they do. But it still doesn't mean anything because there are 2 other organs, the commission and council (Do you even know how decisions are passed in the EU?).
Teranex 2 years ago
Thanks, the thing is though that the EU cant be good for everyone and it isnt , other countries can and do benefit from this EU, but britain does not. Our businesses for instance are suffering from nearly 17,000 quangos, most of which from the EU cost our business and industry sectors over 250 billion pounds a year in lost economical growth, nearly 2000 quangos are added every year on top of that so things can only get worse.
01101100d 2 years ago
Why did you say that "EU cant be good for everyone and it isn't", if you say then "other countries can and do benefit from this EU". That is illogical.
By quangos you mean non-departmental public body? How can you suffer from that? Do explain if quangos also stands for something else.
Teranex 2 years ago
The side which has more then half votes wins. Thats how it works (Thats the most easy way I can put it).
Teranex 2 years ago
That is the utilitarist tought.
Teranex 2 years ago
As an atheist im use to making debunking videos against those who believe in an inisible skydaddy, but i can make a video if you like debunking these beliefs in an invisible system that also does not exist, you have consitantly changed your arguments saying we get something wrong in one comment then acknowledge it in another comment just because it suits your point at the time, which then backs up more points as to why we dont support the EU, u must be getting desperate, not us.
01101100d 2 years ago
I cant recall that i changed my point at any time since this discussion is running. And i didn't call for this discussion to stop either, unlike your side did.
Teranex 2 years ago
I already read it. And 2 against 1 lol? We are on a: Why Britain HAS to leave the corrupt, undemocratic EU! video, so its logical that more people will be against the EU then for it. But currently i countered all your arguments, so its probably just you who is getting nervous right now, since you want that I leave. Cant stand to an argument?
Teranex 2 years ago
NO NO NO, you are not countering my arguments, you are making excuses and i am not getting nervous because i have a whole shit load more ammo yet to use. You have not answered my points, you respond in the same manner someone would do when arguing against those who believe in god, they dont like criticsism. I am a debunker, this video was made in 2006 and we have found out a whole lot more things that we dont like about the EU and many of its policies. Please your not trying now
01101100d 2 years ago
Tell me how should I put my answerer, since i cant recall that i made any excuse for nothing. At least I can say that your questions are more rational then the one of mitchking2006, who doesn't even seem to understand what the EU is.
Teranex 2 years ago
Yes, but do you understand what it means that alls states have to agree that a law gets passed (AKA 100%).
Teranex 2 years ago
Do you understand that on many legislations politicians are told what to vote on their papers, the voting processing system is very ineffective and is sometimes dont with the show of hands and counted in a second, something fishy there, wouldnt you say lol.
01101100d 2 years ago
Good = every action which causes more good then bad.
The defining is a question of decision making. So you could call it vital interests of the EU.
Teranex 2 years ago
No they are not. Cause the council of the EU represents all the states and laws which are presented by the EU commission have to be accepted by all states. And I think you don't understand, the parliament represents the political ideology of citizens, so people don't vote for states but for parties. You do understand how the EU works right?
Teranex 2 years ago
Your highlighting our points again m8, you have just acknowledged that laws by the EU commission have to be accepted by all states, thats one aspect we dont like, even the U.S state system is more free than this. The EU does not represent the ideology of the citizens otherwise so many wouldnt be against it, not even our political parties have the proper power to decide what is and isnt implemented, its done in secret, are you sure you know how the EU system works m8.
01101100d 2 years ago
Well EU currently consists out of 27 units.
Teranex 2 years ago