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  • The claim that our #2 chromosome is the result of the fusion of chimp chromosome's 2A and 2B was always speculative.

    The chimp genome project took a closer look at 2A and 2B and discovered our #2 has 150,000 sequences not in 2A or 2B.

    That means chimp 2A and 2B couldn't possibly be the origin of our chromosome #2.

    It's that simple.

    There is no gray area here.

  • @FlyingBlindfolded got a reference?

  • Being that the chromosome together is universal and can be repeatedly examined; you've got a working experiment yielding consistent data. Human evolutionary development predicts and explains the data. Though I'd like to see more of these experiments carried over to all living genomes and see what the 'collective' mapping could tell us?

  • Cont... Scientists not stupid, so probably know this, already. Why not tell us?! Looking for financial gain or power from the knowledge, probably. Money/personal gain is usually the motive for deceptive behaviour.

  • If this happened in an egg, useful, n evolution. If happened in a sperm too, with same chromosomes, as wd b nece., amazing. If at same time, in same place, AND they bred, odds ag. GE r astronomical!

  • Even now biologists are still unable to decipher so many segments in the DNA, how could they possibly be so sure that fusion if it ever occured proves relation to common ape like ancestor. What is coded in the DNA strand will determine if the creature is a chimp or human, not the number of chomosomes. It has been proven that chimps mtDNA falls way outside the human mtDNA, and we dont have any DNA from so called apelike common ancestor.

  • @daogdaog Good observation daogdaog.

    We are not yet able to understand the genetic data we are seeing yet the evolutionists always have an explanation for everything.

    That's because of a preconceived notion and is devoid of actual thought.

    There is no science of evolution.

    Science requires thinking.

    Evolutionists don't think.

    They already know.

  • Is there any other animal or creature on earth that has fused Chromosomes in their DNA. If not then all they have proved is something fused them which then leads us to the writings of the SUMER civilization!

  • The point of this is that we have found more evidence that fits into the evolution theory. No one is saying that this "Proves" evolution by itself. Bloody creationists. lol.

    This + the huge amount of other evidence is why evolution is a science fact.

  • I'm glad some people aren't fooled.

    Having the same number of chromosomes DOES NOT equal evolved from each other.

    Rabbits and Potatoes also have 24 chromosomes and I know I didn't evolve from a potato. Some of you probably did though, and that is where you get your mental abilities from.

  • suggests that were were created i a lab via gene splice, just as the ancient sumerians stated in their tablets, that we were created this way to (get this) "dig gold for the gods" Check oiut youtube video: "The Sumerians Part 2-3" also on my fave list. They knew of all the planets revolving around the sun, 4500 years ago. Now Uncle Samski-stein is over there sprinkly depleted uranium every where so we can't dig for more.

    See Youtube: Depleted Uranium"

  • this doesnt prove anything except that human dna has corrupted over time (which we already knew i.e, heredetary diseases etc). The original adam had 24 chromosomes but at some point they fused to 23. That doesnt mean adam was an ape just because apes have 24 anymore than welding the back doors of my sedan shut means that it was evolved from a coup.

  • I just love how your comment stopped the debate lol.

    To clear up some confusion. Evolution is NOT a fact.. I do believe in evolution for many reasons.. But none of them are facts. Those saying these theories are facts are no better then religions saying that Genesis is a fact.. Evolution is only.. what we came up best with, so far.. But it don't prove jack..It just give us great insight on how IT MIGHT have worked out over time.

    my 2 cents!

  • "my 2 cents! "

    Your wrong opinion doesnt change reality!

    evolution is a fact and its proven.

  • "doors of my sedan shut means that it was evolved from a coup"

    That just proves you are totally ignorant on the basics of evoltion.

  • @gorilla199uncensored No, I think it just proves that you are totally ignorant of the ability to think things through.

  • It is so funny how scientists try to portray this as PROOF of evolution.

  • The fact is that this does nothing to "prove" our descent from apes. Here's why: If this mutation occured, it would have to happen twice in one generation- to one male and one female. If one or the other had this mutation, it could not possibly produce fertile offspring with the original population. So, this male and female would have to find each other, mate, produce another male and female and multiply. Odds of this mutation by chance are phenomenal. Looks like the same guy made apes and man.

  • I can't view this video..how come?

  • So what mechanism decided that fusng these chromosomes would lead to a mega transition into an intelligent hominaoid. Try to calculate the odds of an accidental mutation such as this. To put it into perspective, let's say your running windows xp and your computer gets hit by lighting fusing two section of the programming code. Afterward there is such a dramatic improvment to XP that it can now read your mind!

  • That is like saying what is the chance I will be hit by lightening.

    Does that mean it never happens?

  • it is what it is there is no debating it. We can only Debate how did this happend..Evolution? or it can suport many other beliefs.This is evolutions only proof,I would like your opinions if it holds water,more opinions facts we talk about here can only lead us closer to the truth. I only care about truths even if it goes against my beliefs. so please feel free leave facts and opinions in the comments i will not put anyone down for speaking there mind.

  • evolution theory is just another believe

    NO PROOF

  • XD Tell that to transitional fossils, carbon dating, radiometric dating, human gene #2, endogenous retrovirus's and the 150 years collective research built up in support of evolution and the fact that a scientific theory is the highest level an "idea" can be called. For lack of a better word. Evolution is a FACT.. and a theory.

  • Don't confuse micro-evolution and macro-evolution. Macro-Evolution has never been observed.

  • Google speciation and say that again.

    Regardless, there is no difference between micro evolution and macro evolution. The only people stupid enough to try to distinguish between the two are people who say they believe in one but not the other. These people are also often dumb enough to think that the big bang has to do with evolution and also think abiogenesis has anything to do with evolution.

  • Are you debating whether the chromosomes fused?

  • but if we have a fused togetha chromosomes then wouidnt that make some sort of mutation in us i mean theres a decrease in strength and we have alot more intelligence  and if there was a mutation then we mutated in to somethin greater and we might as well be apes

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