John Wayne represents the heterosexual man and not some homosexual agenda. Poor Howard Hawks. If he is trying to introduce strange ideas into a hard past that men had hard times just to endure, then maybe Mr. hawks wasn't that much of an artist, but he was a social activists. I believe in all the good things about the USA the land i LOVE!
Hudson Hawks has even said before he died that many of his movies were about manlove, although this was never brought to the forefront of his movies (likely due to critical reaction and the time period). This movie is no exception. I'm not trolling, look it up.
Sorry I muddled the name, and please don't be so serious about it. It's a documented fact that Hawks' movies presented homosexual undertones in a subtle but positive way. To deny it would be ignoring a large part of Hawks' film work.
@Viersen Howard Hawks was married three times and had one daughter. Homosexual undertones? You can make anything filth if you want to. These were different times not a place where gays flaunted themselves like a carnivorous bacteria infecting everything they touch. I don't know what biased documentation you read. Sounds like the same wacko that recently published a pathetic slur against Paul Newman.
Don't either of these gentlemen understand the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? Land needs to be stolen legally, with Lawyers, not with bullets. The bullets come later.
hs=horse shit , chan.you little fag. you too mcgready. why don't the both of you go to the bowling alley bathroom and write some cute shit on the walls and leave the rest of the men here alone.
@JuanMacready Please don't try to explain your comment based on Monty's orientation. There's no way that this movie is anything except a great western...a great story by a great director.
@AllusCats It does have a distinct tone of homosexuality to it. Note the scene at 2:16 where John Wayne remarks to his partner "He'll do", strongly inferring that he and his partner would like to engage in some anal sex with the boy.
@hschan4 "He'll do" to me was a comment that meant "the boy's strong and spunky and we're headed for some tough worlk/times to build this ranch..." Not a single reference to homosexuality in it.
@hschan4 Everything in art is...a matter of interpretation. But, it seems that John Wayne was telling W. Brennan..."ok, here's this crazy kid who could be a burden to us since, he just saw the wagon train murdered by Indians and yet, he sticks up for himself and takes his licks from me...'he'll do' ".
No offense to the ladies but, this was a MAN's movie. The relationships between Brennan and Clift were realistic and believable. When men do big, tough things like in this movie, there is no need to infuse romance into it, the emotion is there in the hearts of the men who are working so hard to achieve their goal. I love that feeling when I'm with my friends and we do big things.
"He'll do," one of the shortest classic lines of the cinema.
There is a truly superb recording of the full Tiomkin score on Naxos, #8.557699, as restored by by John Morgan and conducted by William Stromberg, leading the Moscow Symphony Orchestra & Choir (it's available from Screen Archives Entertainment - screenarchives-dot-com).
Fans of the great Dimitri Tiomkin - and this exceptional score - should not pass this up (the only caveat is that there are no printed lyrics, a minor quibble).
yes , i believe to remember , they sit in the jail and singing .... Purple light in the canyons that's where I long to be With my three good companions just my rifle, pony and me. No more cows to be ropin' no more strays will I see Round the bend she'll be waitin' for my rifle, pony and me For my rifle, my pony and me ....... it was also great cinema, ... ;-)
The music was written and scored by the great Dimitri Tiomkin and immigrant who could barely speak english. Tiomkin was single-handedly responsible for creating the classic western genre music score in Hollywood.
That's the irony of the character and the story. Irony was one of the great themes of classic literature. Example Shakespear. Howard Hawks recognized this and played it that way purposely.
Hawks was a master at creating depth to his characters. In this case irony was used to create Wayne's character which Hawk's used to play against throughout the entire movie.
00:51 i wouldn't do dat agian, i said don't do dat agian. look at his eyes when he says it its funny.
hiimronstuart1 2 weeks ago
is this part 2?
fightinside1 2 months ago
cowboys mexicans and indians it's a party
zOMGLaserGunzPewPew 6 months ago
Thise filmeis never die
mrlord9111 9 months ago
it's good the movies on, but they forgot the gap where he finishes killing an indian in the first part
ragingbull5150 10 months ago
John Wayne represents the heterosexual man and not some homosexual agenda. Poor Howard Hawks. If he is trying to introduce strange ideas into a hard past that men had hard times just to endure, then maybe Mr. hawks wasn't that much of an artist, but he was a social activists. I believe in all the good things about the USA the land i LOVE!
jamesnewton777 10 months ago
Hudson Hawks has even said before he died that many of his movies were about manlove, although this was never brought to the forefront of his movies (likely due to critical reaction and the time period). This movie is no exception. I'm not trolling, look it up.
Viersen 1 year ago
@Viersen Its Howard Hawks you idiot and its not about 'man love' its about its about the relationship between father and son.
dan2009 1 year ago
@dan2009
Sorry I muddled the name, and please don't be so serious about it. It's a documented fact that Hawks' movies presented homosexual undertones in a subtle but positive way. To deny it would be ignoring a large part of Hawks' film work.
Viersen 1 year ago
@Viersen Howard Hawks was married three times and had one daughter. Homosexual undertones? You can make anything filth if you want to. These were different times not a place where gays flaunted themselves like a carnivorous bacteria infecting everything they touch. I don't know what biased documentation you read. Sounds like the same wacko that recently published a pathetic slur against Paul Newman.
4295eye 3 months ago
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good on you for sticking up for paul newman. i hope it doesn't traumatise you to learn he wasn't as hung up about poofs as you are.
nuitetjuors1 2 months ago
Don't either of these gentlemen understand the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? Land needs to be stolen legally, with Lawyers, not with bullets. The bullets come later.
packjim56 1 year ago
hs=horse shit , chan.you little fag. you too mcgready. why don't the both of you go to the bowling alley bathroom and write some cute shit on the walls and leave the rest of the men here alone.
01sircharles 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Please don't try to explain your comment based on Monty's orientation. There's no way that this movie is anything except a great western...a great story by a great director.
AllusCats 1 year ago
@AllusCats It does have a distinct tone of homosexuality to it. Note the scene at 2:16 where John Wayne remarks to his partner "He'll do", strongly inferring that he and his partner would like to engage in some anal sex with the boy.
hschan4 1 year ago
@hschan4 "He'll do" to me was a comment that meant "the boy's strong and spunky and we're headed for some tough worlk/times to build this ranch..." Not a single reference to homosexuality in it.
AllusCats 1 year ago
@AllusCats A matter of artistic interpretation I suppose...
hschan4 1 year ago
@hschan4 Everything in art is...a matter of interpretation. But, it seems that John Wayne was telling W. Brennan..."ok, here's this crazy kid who could be a burden to us since, he just saw the wagon train murdered by Indians and yet, he sticks up for himself and takes his licks from me...'he'll do' ".
AllusCats 1 year ago
a great movie - the ones they "try" to make now are a joke - can watch these over & over never getting bored
realfunny7 1 year ago
Great movie!! John Wayne at his finest!!!
halbie71 1 year ago
YouTube test.
yamsid 1 year ago
No offense to the ladies but, this was a MAN's movie. The relationships between Brennan and Clift were realistic and believable. When men do big, tough things like in this movie, there is no need to infuse romance into it, the emotion is there in the hearts of the men who are working so hard to achieve their goal. I love that feeling when I'm with my friends and we do big things.
AllusCats 1 year ago
This was a homosexual movie actually.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Thanks so much for posting this! it's my favorite movie EVER
aintnuthinbutathang 2 years ago
"He'll do," one of the shortest classic lines of the cinema.
There is a truly superb recording of the full Tiomkin score on Naxos, #8.557699, as restored by by John Morgan and conducted by William Stromberg, leading the Moscow Symphony Orchestra & Choir (it's available from Screen Archives Entertainment - screenarchives-dot-com).
Fans of the great Dimitri Tiomkin - and this exceptional score - should not pass this up (the only caveat is that there are no printed lyrics, a minor quibble).
AJNorth 2 years ago
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6749er 2 years ago
That music reminds of me Rio Bravo, another Hawks' film starring John Wayne and Walter Brennan
birdmanalcatraz 2 years ago
The music was written and scored by the great Dimitri Tiomkin and immigrant who could barely speak english. Tiomkin was single-handedly responsible for creating the classic western genre music score in Hollywood.
JamesA46 2 years ago
@JamesA46. Okay we get it, you know how to use wikipedia.
coreymitchelhoulden 11 months ago
I find it rather ironic when they read the Bible and have a funeral for the man they just shot...
fredastairefan 2 years ago
That's the irony of the character and the story. Irony was one of the great themes of classic literature. Example Shakespear. Howard Hawks recognized this and played it that way purposely.
JamesA46 2 years ago
Hawks was a master at creating depth to his characters. In this case irony was used to create Wayne's character which Hawk's used to play against throughout the entire movie.
JamesA46 2 years ago
thats not ironic its perfectly normal. They wouldn't leave him for the buzzards.
jsnody317 2 years ago