The analysis of the explosives expert Jowenko was used by conspiracy theorists to show that WTC 7 was deliberately demolished. In the same interview, he explains that the controlled demolition of the twin towers is impossible. Dynamite would have exploded right away, and it would have taken a year to put everything in place. in English.
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Je m'appelle Claude Valette. Je suis un physicien (supraconductivité, puis acoustique musicale, puis astrophysique), retraité, anciennement Directeur de Recherche au CNRS.
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i mean look all the building that was close in WTC i mean it did not collapse it has been damage of course but it did not collapse ... Bldg 7 collapse very perfectly straight down
After the twin towers and tower seven fell the smoke that was, was the same smoke you see when a building is demolished. It doesn't have the characteristics of something falling because of structural failure. Look at buildings that fall after an earthquake, they don't fall like that. The United States of America is guilty of a great crime. I at times get a very strong feeling that something bad is going to happen to the US. I hope not because I live in it.
Note the plumes of white smoke coming from many of the windows. According to the official story, these plumes are composed of dust being forced out of the structure as it collapses. However, according to NIST, the interior of WTC7 collapsed totally, leaving the facades standing alone without the roof and without the floors. How could facades with no roof and no floors compress air as they fell? See the final NIST report.
I gotta admit, that was a quality demolition of wtc 7. The only 2 demolitions that were better orchestrated were wtc 1 and wtc 2. I wish they crashed a plane into wtc 7 so that at least it could be belivable that a plane made the building collapse, kind of a fail in the plot to trick america plan. If it were me, I would have at least flown an rc plane into wtc 7 with some fireworks so that I could say "something" hit the building and made it fall at free fall speed.
Larry Silverstein and The USA Government have a lot to answer for. Do some research and youll find that there is no way in hell 2 planes would ever cause that much damage to that many buildings. Between the way the twin towers were constructed and the raw footage it doesn't take a genius to see that ('yes' there were aeroplanes flown into the very tops of the towers ) the collapse of these buildings was no accident.
Larry Silverstein and the USA President - fucken disgrace to the human race
“Al-Qaeda,” the eternal covert operation and propaganda apparatus, has been given a facelift. A new generation of Osama bin Laden “disciples” threatens the world, now led by “homegrown Al-Qaeda” terrorists with operational ties to AQAP.
Jeb Bush had no business letting that hurricane get past Florida. You can clearly see how the chemtrails generated by the secret weather machine Halliburton built in Dick Cheney's basement blew those aircraft into the WTC with the innocent terrorists planted by Richard Nixon's alien clone from the Roswell time travel experiments, while Ronald Reagan planted the explosives with black helicopters in the filming of Bed Time for Bonzo.
@SirWinstonChurchill You forget....Rudy and Larry semaphored the planes in from high atop WTC7 then flushed a giant cherry bomb to cover their tracks.
Borough of Manhattan Community College was supposedly majorly damaged by the collapse of 7 World Trade Center, but this video proves that building 7 didn't touch it.
And NO jEWS ALLOWED ON THE PANEL.. We don't need another farce like the 9/11 commission. We don't need Jews running the investigations as they are always going to put the interests of Israel above that of the USA. And that is why they failed to tell the American people why we were attacked. It was because of Israels continued ILLEGAL OCCUPATION and the dreadful treatment of the Palestinian people by the IDF. There's something you won't hear on ON HOOKNOSE CNN
@AIPACistheproblem when you bring anti-semitism into it you're kind of hurting your argument. You need to remain neutral even though it's very emotional, or others will take your hatred and use it against your argument. Just my opinion.
Not only does the bottom of the building implode first, but it does so equally on all four corners, all at the same time. Wouldn't a fire implode a building from where it was damaged? This building went down all at once from the bottom up. That is fishy to me, it was a little too neat looking. Why wasn't the sprinkler system working either?
Even if only one part of the 911 story is a LIE, then the whole 911 story is a lie. The Building 7 "collapse" is a lie therefore 911 was an INSIDE JOB. NYTimes scientific poll showed 75% of Americans don't believe the government is telling the truth about 911 so don't bother arguing with people who make posts which are hostile to the 911 truth because they are all Israelis posting on-line disinformation by pretending to be Americans. Please Copy and Paste this comment to other threads.
EXACTLY..AMEN BROTHER. People need to understand that the enemy is not just Islam. The enemy is also Israel, because their is overwhelming evidence to support Israels involvement in 9/11. While they did not fly the planes into the buildings, there is a definite Israeli connection and the cover up is starting to unravel. A friend of mine bought a house from an Israeli that ran a moving company in South Florida and his neighbor told him that they had a party on the eve of 9/11
And you get branded as an anti semite when you state the obvious. That Israel and thus, THE ...JEWS....were involved in 9/11. At the very least they knew about it and did nothing to stop the events from occuring. They thought that it would be ok to trade over 3000 lives in order to get sympathy for Israel.
Folks, the building did not fall due to fire at all. The building fell due to structural damage in the central supports and the foundation because of the collapse of the north WTC tower across the street from it. The north tower had literally gouged the back out of the #7 building leaving very little to keep it rigid for very long. As well, the building did lean slightly to the south as it fell. Also, thousands of tons of matter has little place else to go but straight down when it falls.
Drinking that Israeli/Jew koolaid has muddled your ability to think rationally. Fuck me, even with VIDEO evidence, and that filthy Jew Larry Silverstein ADMITTING that they 'pulled the building" you are still defending that sick excuse of a human being. Do some research before exposing your ignorance. Please..PRETTY PLEASE?
steel is heat treated at my work we make huge gears and gearboxs 4 wind mills i know about steel and fire the fires would of had to of been on every floor and burned way longer to knock down them buildings at freefall speed what they claimed is physically impossible do your homework before u get on here talking like u know somthing 911 was an inside job period arrest the wanna be gangsters buy guns long live freedom
Weeks later, they found molten steel in the crater. It was either upwards of 2000 or 1500 degrees. And, the FBI ran a drill for the exact scenario on the same day. As well as no collisions, nothing hit this tower. The survivors said they felt an explosion from underneath the floor before the building collapsed. Huzzah for conspiracies!
"there was local buckling of interior columns. This buckling was most likely due to a combination of fire-induced reductions in strength and a possible increase in stress due to restrained thermal expansion. Two areas in WTC 5 experienced local collapse under an intact portion of the roof. Although there was debris impact near this area, the symmetrical nature of the collapse strongly suggests that the failures were due to the uncontrolled fires"
because the weight of the building caused the fire-weakend lower portion to collapse.
7WTC had connections both above ground and underground to the mall underneath the towers. One would think the fire crossed through those connections and burned inside 7wtc from the bottom up.
@olivertrain Sorry for the delay in my reply. WTC7 collapsed at free fall which means all structural components failed on each floor below the collapse at exactly the same instant. This is not possible from with an uncontrolled fire, just CD. If there was no video of the collapse you might argue that the collapse occurred in phases. But there is lots of clear video and analysis indicates free fall.
@AlNouveau ABSOLUTELY WRONG .... the 2,5 seconds of free fall measures out to about 28 meters or 7 floors ...... all that was needed was for 7 floors to have collapsed to account for the 2.5 seconds ...... those 7 floors were 7 - 13 that collapsed after columns 79, 80, 81 failed ....... but thank you Alnouveau for your naive and amateurish explanation !!!!!
@LOLCATS3111 You're basically posting straight from the NIST final report which has some huge holes in it. For example, on page 40 NIST claims that acceleration during the collapse of WTC7 was constant but video of the event shows to be incorrect. If there was no video NIST could make up stuff and it would fly, but there is video, their calculation is wrong. Besides your collapse scenario is based on a computer simulation model which NIST still will not allow peer review, just more BS.
So what do we know? This much is for certain, if WTC building 7 collapsed from internal fires it will be the third building in history to do so. The first and second? WTC tower 1 and WTC tower 2.
@MrMetalLife That would be true that the third time in history a building suffered catastrophic damage from either an airliner or the debris from a 112 story skyscraper.
@MrMetalLife That would be true that the third time in history a building suffered catastrophic damage from either an airliner or the debris from a 112 story skyscraper.
Watching this video, one would have to assume that every support column and every reinforced structural joint failed at the exact same moment on each floor. How could this have happened? I only know of one way (unless, of course, WTC 7, along with WTC 1 and 2, were built in some other dimension of space that does not follow the law of physics here in our universe).......CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS!!!!
1. South penthouse can be seen collapsing seconds before the north starts on many other videos.
IF it was a CD, then all walls would have been equally visible in the debris pile. However the north wall covers the debris pile.
And if it was CD, who rigged it, how was it rigged, when was it rigged, and how come it wasn't set off by the fires much earlier? The building was on fire for hours.
@dcorleone1973 You can assume, but that would be false. Also, in real controlled demolitions, you don't need to remove every support on every floor.
You haven't shown how it violated any law of physics. It sounded like you were guessing with no experience in any type of physics, explosives, or demolition background.
In the demise of WTC 7, 58 perimeter and 25 core columns fail vertically and nearly simultaneously.
Put simply:
Each of the four massive vertical columns at each corner of the building, (hundreds of feet apart), and all the other 79 columns within, completely failed within one second.
If that isn't yet another of the magical events that occured on 911, I don't know what would qualify.
No, there's no real proof either way, however there is history, there is the nature of fire and there is the properties of steel.... each one of those things seem to clearly indicate one glaring fact:
Steel Frame Buildings do NOT collapse neatly into their footprint from FIRE!
@aodscarecrow How many steel frame building fire have you investigated to make that assumption? Now, how many of those were hit by a airliner or had debris from a 110-story building hit them?
@aodscarecrow Nonsense. Go and take some 1st or 2nd level Engineering classes at a qualified university. Also, take some classes in material science and you will then see why stating'steel building don't collapse from fire/heat' is just plain ignirance. Tell us why guys with real brains, such as Engineers from MIT, Cal, Washington, Purdue, etc. haven't proven the conspiracy & this tripe you spread.
Why do people on YouTube all try to act like experts when they have no REAL education?
@LOLCATS3111 Since when is a 4 story toy factory the same as a 47 story steel framed high rise? And if you want to use this as an example please include a link to the blueprints so the actual structural components can be compared. Thanks.
@AlNouveau ~ you said NO STEEL FRAMED BUILDING IN HISTORY HAS EVER COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE ..... the Kader Toy factory WAS a STEEL FRAMED BUILDING !!!!! ..... how much does it suck for you that you are ALWAYS WRONG ???
@LOLCATS3111 Wrong again Troll. Never said that. You got your posts mixed up again. You're in way over your head with this stuff. And you look stupid comparing a four story toy factory in Thailand to any of the WTC structures. But be my guest, makes it easy for everyone to spot where the bull shit is flowing from.
@AlNouveau 4 stories or 100 stories doesn't matter we are talking about the effects of fire on structural steel and structural steel failing in fires ..... instead of being a goofball why dont you read The Performance of Unprotected Steel and Composite Steel Frames Exposed to Fire by By Clayton Wastney Department of Civil Engineering University of Canterbury Christchurch, New Zealand ...... pay close attention to pages 9 & 10
@LOLCATS3111 Only a delusional troll would think there no difference between a 4 story steel framed building who's design is unknown and either the towers or WTC7. You're really desperate.
Yeah, forget the fact that two 110 story buildings came down crashing into the building, that an entire corner of the base of the building was gone, that there were diesel fuel tanks in the building, that one of the main trusses was severely damaged, that firefighters knew it was coming down... After all those firefighters who risked their lives must have been or are shills for the government, just a slip of the tongue in the rush of the moment, I guess.
@wollclark keep telling yourself that, whatever helps you sleep at nite right? go watch some more fox news and leave misinformation to the people who brought down the towers.
25% of the base was taken out when the towers collapsed. And it wasn't just one room on fire, you fucking idiot. Do some actual research instead believing agenda driven liars like yourself. "Gubment is bad and anything that supports the claim that they didn't do it must be a lie!"
I said that in my first comment, I was just quoting it. Maybe you should do a bit of real research instead of going around name calling and making false accusations.
@shooter686 arg, u won't see explosions if they are internal, u don't even see them when it is controlled demolition. Camera man was pointing his camera directly at the building because it was hit with small debris. Heard the explosions, a few fire fighters said they saw some flashes then the shit crashed.
@MilitantAtheistAhole "u won't see explosions if they are internal, u don't even see them when it is controlled demolition."?
then...
"a few fire fighters said they saw some flashes then the shit crashed.".
So, where did I lose you?
When yo prep a CD, you need to remove all the walls, windows, drywall, furniture, and everything that can become a projectile. So, since those that setup WTC 7 for a CD, didn't have time to remove those things, then you would have it all becoming a projectile.
@shooter686 big difference from flashes and from seeing actual explosions, thankfully, there is something called termite. Here is a link, . In this case, the pillars area easily accessible. There is a layer of fire coating that go on the support beams that have to be inspected to insure that the coating is still the right thickness. U don't have to remove all of that. U have never worked construction.
@MilitantAtheistAhole Ahh, the thermite claim. This is always funny because those that guess with thermite have never worked with it and are forced to speculate at how it works.
You are correct I have never worked on putting them up. But, you need to be able to cut laterally on a vertical beam to be able to remove that beam for demolition. PLEASE tell us all how thermite burns laterally.
You brought it up, and I have tons of questions for you about it. We'll see who has the knowledge.
@shooter686 Did u even bother take a look at the vid I sent you? Really? lol. Ok man. It's not lateral anyways, not set up that way for when it comes to taking down a building. They are set up like a \ on a beam, I can't find the instructional video for it. I emailed u a link to show u what I am talking about. There is molten steel which there shouldn't be. Tower 7 is perfect to show what a controlled demolition looks like. If I'm wrong, show me something to disprove me. I want answers man.
@MilitantAtheistAhole Yep, saw the old, "I found a patent so it must have been used" tactic. The problem is that all the evidence points away from that item. There were no "cutters" ever found. There were never any evidence of thermite found. There was never any evidence of steel cut in a jagged fashion as would have been the result.
Molten metal proves there was trapped heat, not a result of thermite. Thermite can only burn for a few minutes.
@MilitantAtheistAhole The residue found was from the paint protection of the steel. It also would have disproved your thermite cutter device since the painted on thermite theory would have never needed such a device.
So it is either that device you showed me or it was Prof Jones' painted on thermite.
@shooter686 To me it sounds like you aren't really looking into this at all and you are making the assumption that you do. Be honest. I've showed u plenty the prove this otherwise and u haven't brought forth anything interesting or capable of disproving what I've brought to you. Have a pleasant day troll. Bath in your ignorance like a christian.
@MilitantAtheistAhole You are using old talking points that have been debunked already. Showing me a patent from 2006 proving it was done in 2001 is not showing proof. Also, you are trying to mix theories. You think that if you present one thermite theory, that it can be supported by other thermite theories.
I see that you are grasping at talking points and do not understand what you are trying to say.
This is clear because instead of asking good questions, you are rehashing old claims.
@shooter686 Its older then that dude. Much older. Ok then, here is a bigger gun, google 9/11 truth or engineers for 9/11. Making the comparison between buildings I see as a good supportive view. This was another tower that was on fire yet didn't crash like the towers did. U haven't even brought fourth anything to work with. First link shows the evidence. Tower 7 shouldn't of fallen, had next to no damage done to it. It was hit with a little debris. Why did it fall?
@MilitantAtheistAhole Are you really asking why didn't a 9 story building collapse compared to a 47 floor skyscraper? Also, compare the damage to WTC 7. Not even close,
I think you need to take the time and do your own research. Taking the word of non-experts posting videos shows that you lack original thought and critical thinking.
Compare similar structures and building types. It sounds to me that you are trying too hard to WANT to think the govt did this as opposed to the truth.
@shooter686 You completely ignored the pictures that I send you. Those beams were cut. Thermite residue was found in the aftermath. Its in the fucking reports. The government didn't cover what had happened with the towers. Engineers who were seeking out how the collapse happened were doing so, so that this collapse wouldn't happen to any other building in their design. Never said it was an inside job, that there is more to this then we know.
Yes, the steel worker standing up and to the left of that firefighter just cut them with a torch. This is clear since thermite does not leave a clean cut.
Thermite was not found in any residue. The element consistent with thermite (which also happen to be common building components) were found. So, by your claim, common building components being present in a building collapse prove thermite? Really?
If you never said it was an "inside job" why bring up thermite?
@shooter686 What building components contain thermite? The reason why I brought it up is because scientific study of this found residue that is left behind from thermite reactions that are control. It does leave a clean cut and that isn't from a torch. I have enough welding xp to know that isn't cut with a torch. The Iranian president came out and admitted to planning the twin towers devastation. Right now, I'm mixed feelings. I don't want to give credit to the US for something so obvious.
Dare to show a single Youtube video containing thermite that shows a clean cut? I'm sure you vast experience with incendiary devices will be some help to you.
Also, if you have so much "welding xp", then why do all the steel beams that were cut for removal have the exact same cut?
I'm sure your welding, demolition, explosives, incendiary experience will be able to answer that all in a few seconds.
@shooter686 No worries brother. Watch DPR's latest video. I've made a conclusion. I'm on your side now. Took some more time to figure out the truth. I'm happy that I've come to an understanding now.
@shooter686 why didnt they cut a path to the beam? why didnt they cut beams in line first before cutting that one? Where did they stand in all the debrie to cut it? why do you think someone would take a photo of it if it was not out of the usaul? and haha ha thurmite is a common element in all buildings? If you want to prove there were exposions in the building just watch it come down. Buildings that are collapsing dont have a big plume at the top throwing things up and out. duhhh
@katlovesall If you saw how they did the rescue, they used cranes and cherry pickers to move the steel workers into place to remove the beams that were above the trapped people. They didn't have time to cut a path since they needed to cut specific beams quickly and remove the debris to help with the effort.
All buildings contains elements of thermite, not that thermite is present in all buildings.
How many buildings have you see that collapsed from other than explosives? Just curious.
@shooter686 Dont tell me you saw how they did it because none of us saw anything they didnt want us to see and its just hear say as to when they cut it, nobody can prove when it was cut now. unless they have witnesses. and yea a building can have the elements of thermite.. it can have the elements of lots of things cant they. I have seen many concrete come down in earthquakes. and overpasses dont crumble to dust.
Keeping in mind that you would need 1000s of tons of explosives to "create" that much dust, I would rather believe that the shear amount of energy created by gravity (8+ billion joules) would be responsible for that creation of dust.
Remember, that even in a real controlled demolition, gravity is the biggest generator of energy. Explosives are used to get it started.
So the presence of dust proves neither a controlled demolition or the existence of explosives.
@katlovesall Dont tell me you were there or know anymore about what happened there. Because you know just as much as anyone of us does about the whole subject. Its all hear say. do you see that cloud exploding in an earthquake moving down a building.. ?? NO.
@katlovesall The cloud is from the floors collapsing into each other. Nothing new or strange about it.
As for knowing about the topic, I have considerable more experience, training, and understanding of the subjects.
I understand that the typical CTist is limited to what they are told by their sources, but they are purposely not given all the info. Otherwise those giving the info would be found to be fraudulent.
This is why there are no real experts supporting these claims.
@shooter686 well you can believe what you and I believe what I want that is what makes america special. I find it very hard to debate a subject on here since many of what Im saying is censored. Dont think for a moment that I am not patriotic for believeing what I do. In fact I care more about loosing our constitutional rights and what has happened recently here than most.
So, what is being censured? I think it is patriotic to believe that you can stand for what is right. But if you are basing that opinion on false information, then that patriotism is misplaced,
@shooter686 How can I write what is being cencored if its being cencored? lol and like a mother that still loves a child after discovering it has done something wrong, or a child finds a parent that has cheated.. we still love them, just as we do our country.
@katlovesall So, you love your country, you think it killed 3000 of its own people, yet do not see the fact that there is ZERO valid evidenced to support this?
I think you need to read more than just a few CT websites that are feeding you a line of reasoning that falls short of logical and scientific.
@shooter686 Do I love my country YES! do I love corruption NO. anyone that loves what america stands for will be asking questions too. We lost one of our basic constitutional rights with the patriot act and we are not supposed to ask who and what? Logical scientific proof. I will leave that up to the experts in a coart of law.
Actually, there have been a few cases and ZERO pieces of evidence has to get past the evidenciary hearings. Why do you think there has yet to be a single Grand Jury to take any 9-11 case?
Because speculation is not evidence. Guesses are not evidence. Non-expert opinions are not allowed in any court.
So, without logical scientific evidence, you just have what you WANT to believe.
Why would you WANT to think your country would ever do such a thing?
@shooter686 Well there are more coming up, and it is not speculation. They have had more proof than you debunkers have for logic and proof. and how do you know what I believe? I started out on this wanting someone to prove to me one way or the other and you debunkers just insult people and dont come up with any real facts.
What is coming up? Who is "they"?, and what "proof" do they possess? So far it is speculation and opinion. Neither of which is admissible in any court.
So, give me an example of any proof you think exists.
@shooter686 in the Spanish-American war, it is known that the U.S Navy destroyed one of their own ships, several U.S marines died on that ship, they blamed it on the Spanish Armada, and took that as a reason to take over the Philippines and make a war time tax on people to wage the war... I'm not saying that this is what is happening, but government is ruled by persons, not by an all self righteous, perfect being, have to take that in count corruption and ruthlessness is not new.
@luciferiexcelsil "I'm not saying that this is what is happening." My point exactly. If you cannot prove it was a false flag, then trying to say it was is pure speculation. The US justice system does not use previous acts as proof of a recent act. So to use any false flag in history as proof would be inadmissible as evidence.
@shooter686 repeating patterns of behavior's has in fact established a legal precedence for legal action, its called profiling and used extensively by law enforcement agencies in the u.s. there is in fact nothing in u.s. history that makes it out to be deserving of sainthood, 9/11 is just another example.
@vengencefrom1979 Yes, it is a tool, but not evidence. It is used for investigation, but is inadmissible in court. 9-11 is proof that those that desire to make money or notoriety out of inventing a CT is easily possible due to the high number of gullible people in this world. Imagine what would happen to all those that are making a living off of this CT if an investigation was actually done? Who would pay the mortgages of Gage, Jones, Rodriguez, Avery, et al?
@novawildcat89 maybe it wasn´t a sky-scraper,but it was a mountain bike who dressed up like one ? a bike WOULD collapse in a fire, i did some research on this so i know what iam talking about
Shooter, there are many examples of buildings that tipped over from bad demolition attempts and from earthquakes and other damage. Are you saying something similar could NOT have happened to WTC7?
The Turkey had the entire middle and side removed at once. That did not happen with WTC 7. WTC 7 had a chuck of the central portion along with hours of uncontrolled fires. The failed CD was also a completely different type of building. It wasn't a steel framed 43 floor building.
Look on Google Earth and note that this video was taken from the NORTH, and slightly to the east, of WTC7. Thus, it does not show the damaged SOUTH side. In fact, we have only a few stills that clearly show damage to to south side. All videos of WTC7's collapse show that the undamaged NORTH facade dropped right along with the damaged SOUTH side. WTC7 leaned only about ten degrees to the south as it neared the ground. The mystery of WTC7 is the MANNER of its collapse, nearly straight and even.
To me its obvious what happened. The truth is anyone who thinks that this building fell from debris damage is full of guff. You are all just afraid to see the nasty truth about how the "bosses" of this world really are. Gimme a break people.
what is your training, education and experience in demolition?? how did you come to your conclusion?? although I disagree with your opinion you are entitled to it and I mine........
Or those that think people with no experience, education or knowledge of explosives can make up "facts" of such things.
Imagine any real expert saying it was a controlled demolition.
I guess the gullible folks that believe in 9-11 fairy tales are the same that think Bigfoot roamed the woods by their pappy's place or there are crop circles in the Illuminati wheat field.
Alex Jones laughs at you guys all the way to the bank
@MilitantAtheistAhole Evidence of what? It looked exactly like a catastrophic collapse. Why do you think nobody heard any primary or secondary explosions before or during the collapse? Why do you think all the firefighters on scene agreed that it was going to collapse based on what they saw and heard (Creaking and bowing of the supports)?
Do you think that if you don't know the difference between a real controlled demolition and a catastrophic collapse that you will mistake one for the other?
@shooter686 Wow really? I've heard different and I've seen different. There is news footage that showed this very building fall with the sound of explosives, I've already linked ppl with footage of fire fighters stating that they heard explosions. Try again man
@MilitantAtheistAhole Actually, you are saying that you heard "explosions", not "explosives". This is the most common mistake by those that do not understand the difference. There is not a single eyewitness that said it was explosives. They heard "booms" and other types of loud sounds.
By the way, have you ever seen a catastrophic collapse of any building either on Youtube or in person?
himselfe is nothing more than an atheist. Know what that means? It means besides not believeing in a higher power or God, but also they believe in nothing.
I cant possibly present the evidence here and do it justice. Look up architects and engineers for 911 truth. It is the most reputable source backed by more then 550 architects and engineers, as well as over 3000 people petitioning for new investigation.
Not a pre-set demolition. Nor was it fire although it was small part of the collapse. There was extensive damage suffered when pieces of debris fell on WTC 7. Near the base of the south end of WTC 7 got the worst of it. 20 STORIES WAS SHEARED OFF NEAR THE BASE OF WTC 7. There are pics available on google. You will see a huge gash near the base. When you see the building collapse. it kinda tilts slighty towards the south end. Hence the weak damaged side of WTC 7.
maybe the bombs went off on that side a milisecond too fast... just wondering... how did they fit 20 stories into the base of a building... a building thats 40something stories... if 20 stories sheared off a side... then we'd see half a building standing there, not a whole one with fires in three rooms... and the people in the building that harrowingly escaped woulda been like... what dead?
Looks a lot like a planned demolition to me. What build falls perfectly in its foot print like that when fire was on either side. it would fall to one side or the other not collapse perfectly in the middle.
It has a lot to do with the way the building was built. It a specialised system of support structure on the lower floors because it was built around a power substation.
7 buildings made up the World Trade Center. WTC 1 & 2 were the North and South towers (the Twin Towers). WTC 3 was a hotel, located inbetween the towers. WTC 4, 5 and 6 were low-rise plaza buildings. WTC 7 (the building in this video) was across the road from the main WTC site.
Jesse Ventura: Not just ex-governor and ex-wrestling superstar. Jesse Ventura is a veteran of the elite U.S. Navy SEALs. He was on the UDT; "Frogman". Amphibious warfare. Demolition on land and water. Water crew are interchangeable with land crew but land crew are not interchangeable with water crews because of the necessary swimming skills. He is also a former Professor at Harvard for Political Science.
Youtube: Governor Jesse Ventura On Hannity & Colmes 4-8-08
i dont understand how people think that this was controlled. it came down at 5something in the afternoon, and the building was evacuated of everyone, including firemen, by 2 because FDNY knew it was coming down. it was unstable.
controlled demolition theories make no sense in the other 2 towers, and they make even LESS sense in this one. why would they demolish a building at 5? and not at 1030 like the other ones? goddamn, people.
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The analysis of the explosives expert Jowenko was used by conspiracy theorists to show that WTC 7 was deliberately demolished. In the same interview, he explains that the controlled demolition of the twin towers is impossible. Dynamite would have exploded right away, and it would have taken a year to put everything in place. in English.
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aczjbr 2 months ago
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EUROPE DIRECT. Demonstrating that all sciences are the conspiracy against the disease.
Je m'appelle Claude Valette. Je suis un physicien (supraconductivité, puis acoustique musicale, puis astrophysique), retraité, anciennement Directeur de Recherche au CNRS.
WTC physique rumeur - Physique de l’effondrement des tours du World Trade Center, WTC2, WTC1, WTC7, analyse de la rumeur, 50 pages en pdf par Claude Valette.
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Electronic Journal of 3 professional associations of engineers. bought all the CIA?
Structure Magazine - A Join Publication of NCSEA / CASE / SEI
How the Loss of One Column May Have Led to the Collapse of WTC 7 - Ramon Gilsanz, PE, SE, Willa Ng
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World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest
Read more: World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest - Popular Mechanics - Magazine bought by the CIA?
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aczjbr 2 months ago
i dont see flashes. go to any vegas implosion.there are flashes and LOUD explosions! WTC7 fell silently (look it up).
randypagan 4 months ago
i mean look all the building that was close in WTC i mean it did not collapse it has been damage of course but it did not collapse ... Bldg 7 collapse very perfectly straight down
TheKarkar999 4 months ago
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getbo 7 months ago
Fire doesn't melt steel.
GG.
slayer3to10 7 months ago
After the twin towers and tower seven fell the smoke that was, was the same smoke you see when a building is demolished. It doesn't have the characteristics of something falling because of structural failure. Look at buildings that fall after an earthquake, they don't fall like that. The United States of America is guilty of a great crime. I at times get a very strong feeling that something bad is going to happen to the US. I hope not because I live in it.
GeRzAwN 1 year ago
Note the plumes of white smoke coming from many of the windows. According to the official story, these plumes are composed of dust being forced out of the structure as it collapses. However, according to NIST, the interior of WTC7 collapsed totally, leaving the facades standing alone without the roof and without the floors. How could facades with no roof and no floors compress air as they fell? See the final NIST report.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
I gotta admit, that was a quality demolition of wtc 7. The only 2 demolitions that were better orchestrated were wtc 1 and wtc 2. I wish they crashed a plane into wtc 7 so that at least it could be belivable that a plane made the building collapse, kind of a fail in the plot to trick america plan. If it were me, I would have at least flown an rc plane into wtc 7 with some fireworks so that I could say "something" hit the building and made it fall at free fall speed.
itinkle 1 year ago 2
mossad did it
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hoxran 1 year ago
Larry Silverstein and The USA Government have a lot to answer for. Do some research and youll find that there is no way in hell 2 planes would ever cause that much damage to that many buildings. Between the way the twin towers were constructed and the raw footage it doesn't take a genius to see that ('yes' there were aeroplanes flown into the very tops of the towers ) the collapse of these buildings was no accident.
Larry Silverstein and the USA President - fucken disgrace to the human race
justinbridget 1 year ago
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2020starman 1 year ago
Jeb Bush had no business letting that hurricane get past Florida. You can clearly see how the chemtrails generated by the secret weather machine Halliburton built in Dick Cheney's basement blew those aircraft into the WTC with the innocent terrorists planted by Richard Nixon's alien clone from the Roswell time travel experiments, while Ronald Reagan planted the explosives with black helicopters in the filming of Bed Time for Bonzo.
"The truth is out there." (Where is Fox Mulder?)
SirWinstonChurchill 1 year ago
@SirWinstonChurchill You forget....Rudy and Larry semaphored the planes in from high atop WTC7 then flushed a giant cherry bomb to cover their tracks.
cornskid 1 year ago
My favorite 9/11 inconsistencies:
Rumsfeld said "Flight 93 was shot down".
"Hi Mom, This is Mark Bingham." lol
Bush sits on his ass in classroom after 2nd plane hit but SAYS he saw the first plane hit.
WTC 7 held offices of CIA, IRS, Secret Service, and Guilliani's emergency bunker.
Atta's passport found in street miraculously.
Anthrax blamed on Muslims and sent to Democrats and media.
Operation Northwoods Part 2 anyone?
DrugstoreCFH 1 year ago 5
Borough of Manhattan Community College was supposedly majorly damaged by the collapse of 7 World Trade Center, but this video proves that building 7 didn't touch it.
SnappyPenguins 1 year ago
Wow it's lik part 2 of the day! Cusz it happen around 5
TuYankeepimp90 1 year ago
INVESTIGATE LARRY SILVERSTEIN..
And NO jEWS ALLOWED ON THE PANEL.. We don't need another farce like the 9/11 commission. We don't need Jews running the investigations as they are always going to put the interests of Israel above that of the USA. And that is why they failed to tell the American people why we were attacked. It was because of Israels continued ILLEGAL OCCUPATION and the dreadful treatment of the Palestinian people by the IDF. There's something you won't hear on ON HOOKNOSE CNN
AIPACistheproblem 1 year ago
@AIPACistheproblem when you bring anti-semitism into it you're kind of hurting your argument. You need to remain neutral even though it's very emotional, or others will take your hatred and use it against your argument. Just my opinion.
edyken77 1 year ago
Not only does the bottom of the building implode first, but it does so equally on all four corners, all at the same time. Wouldn't a fire implode a building from where it was damaged? This building went down all at once from the bottom up. That is fishy to me, it was a little too neat looking. Why wasn't the sprinkler system working either?
sniggity 1 year ago
Even if only one part of the 911 story is a LIE, then the whole 911 story is a lie. The Building 7 "collapse" is a lie therefore 911 was an INSIDE JOB. NYTimes scientific poll showed 75% of Americans don't believe the government is telling the truth about 911 so don't bother arguing with people who make posts which are hostile to the 911 truth because they are all Israelis posting on-line disinformation by pretending to be Americans. Please Copy and Paste this comment to other threads.
arcanacelestia 1 year ago
@arcanacelestia
EXACTLY..AMEN BROTHER. People need to understand that the enemy is not just Islam. The enemy is also Israel, because their is overwhelming evidence to support Israels involvement in 9/11. While they did not fly the planes into the buildings, there is a definite Israeli connection and the cover up is starting to unravel. A friend of mine bought a house from an Israeli that ran a moving company in South Florida and his neighbor told him that they had a party on the eve of 9/11
AIPACistheproblem 1 year ago
@arcanacelestia
And you get branded as an anti semite when you state the obvious. That Israel and thus, THE ...JEWS....were involved in 9/11. At the very least they knew about it and did nothing to stop the events from occuring. They thought that it would be ok to trade over 3000 lives in order to get sympathy for Israel.
AIPACistheproblem 1 year ago
This video shows it didn't fall straight down at the end.
PoetryHound 1 year ago
Folks, the building did not fall due to fire at all. The building fell due to structural damage in the central supports and the foundation because of the collapse of the north WTC tower across the street from it. The north tower had literally gouged the back out of the #7 building leaving very little to keep it rigid for very long. As well, the building did lean slightly to the south as it fell. Also, thousands of tons of matter has little place else to go but straight down when it falls.
bruhager 1 year ago
@bruhager
Drinking that Israeli/Jew koolaid has muddled your ability to think rationally. Fuck me, even with VIDEO evidence, and that filthy Jew Larry Silverstein ADMITTING that they 'pulled the building" you are still defending that sick excuse of a human being. Do some research before exposing your ignorance. Please..PRETTY PLEASE?
AIPACistheproblem 1 year ago
@AIPACistheproblem
Here's some research for you:
watch?v=43F54hR0NW8
wollclark 1 year ago
steel is heat treated at my work we make huge gears and gearboxs 4 wind mills i know about steel and fire the fires would of had to of been on every floor and burned way longer to knock down them buildings at freefall speed what they claimed is physically impossible do your homework before u get on here talking like u know somthing 911 was an inside job period arrest the wanna be gangsters buy guns long live freedom
dan32749 1 year ago
Weeks later, they found molten steel in the crater. It was either upwards of 2000 or 1500 degrees. And, the FBI ran a drill for the exact scenario on the same day. As well as no collisions, nothing hit this tower. The survivors said they felt an explosion from underneath the floor before the building collapsed. Huzzah for conspiracies!
TheLordDeathwalker 1 year ago
from the FEMA/ASCE report on WTC 5 ~
"there was local buckling of interior columns. This buckling was most likely due to a combination of fire-induced reductions in strength and a possible increase in stress due to restrained thermal expansion. Two areas in WTC 5 experienced local collapse under an intact portion of the roof. Although there was debris impact near this area, the symmetrical nature of the collapse strongly suggests that the failures were due to the uncontrolled fires"
LOLCATS3111 1 year ago
@LOLCATS3111 Key phrase here is 'local collapse' due to fire. Did not collapse at free fall... Thanks
AlNouveau 1 year ago
Funny that Tower 7, though not hit by a plane, went down the same way and speed as those effected by "Jet Fuel".
ISeenACar87 1 year ago
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TheCow500 1 year ago
why does the bottom fall out frist if the fires were more to the top?
lancestar2 1 year ago
@lancestar2 Like the other two towers, the collapse initiated at the point of the greatest amount of damage.
shooter686 1 year ago
because the weight of the building caused the fire-weakend lower portion to collapse.
7WTC had connections both above ground and underground to the mall underneath the towers. One would think the fire crossed through those connections and burned inside 7wtc from the bottom up.
olivertrain 1 year ago
@olivertrain Sorry for the delay in my reply. WTC7 collapsed at free fall which means all structural components failed on each floor below the collapse at exactly the same instant. This is not possible from with an uncontrolled fire, just CD. If there was no video of the collapse you might argue that the collapse occurred in phases. But there is lots of clear video and analysis indicates free fall.
AlNouveau 1 year ago
@AlNouveau ABSOLUTELY WRONG .... the 2,5 seconds of free fall measures out to about 28 meters or 7 floors ...... all that was needed was for 7 floors to have collapsed to account for the 2.5 seconds ...... those 7 floors were 7 - 13 that collapsed after columns 79, 80, 81 failed ....... but thank you Alnouveau for your naive and amateurish explanation !!!!!
LOLCATS3111 1 year ago
@LOLCATS3111 You're basically posting straight from the NIST final report which has some huge holes in it. For example, on page 40 NIST claims that acceleration during the collapse of WTC7 was constant but video of the event shows to be incorrect. If there was no video NIST could make up stuff and it would fly, but there is video, their calculation is wrong. Besides your collapse scenario is based on a computer simulation model which NIST still will not allow peer review, just more BS.
AlNouveau 1 year ago
@lancestar2 why is it that there isn't audio of even a single squib?
wkwickham 1 year ago
goverment has one thinking... "american civilians are so dumd and they will belive!"
g0rbak 1 year ago
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@g0rbak CTists has one thinking... "american civilians are so dumd (sic) and they will belive!"
shooter686 1 year ago
hahahahahahaha this is a gravity driven collapse due to fire hahahahahahahahahah
America has other laws of nature since 2001 hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
oegromov 1 year ago
Steel Frame Buildings do NOT collapse neatly into their footprint from FIRE!
ewingsco 1 year ago
it wasnt an inside job, get over yourselves and stop wasting time.
scubaduba23 1 year ago
we know not to spend much time in high rises owned by larry silverstein!!!
dang that thing fell fast!!
zmc33 1 year ago
So what do we know? This much is for certain, if WTC building 7 collapsed from internal fires it will be the third building in history to do so. The first and second? WTC tower 1 and WTC tower 2.
MrMetalLife 1 year ago
@MrMetalLife That would be true that the third time in history a building suffered catastrophic damage from either an airliner or the debris from a 112 story skyscraper.
Why is that part always left out?
shooter686 1 year ago
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@MrMetalLife That would be true that the third time in history a building suffered catastrophic damage from either an airliner or the debris from a 112 story skyscraper.
Why is that part always left out?
shooter686 1 year ago
Watching this video, one would have to assume that every support column and every reinforced structural joint failed at the exact same moment on each floor. How could this have happened? I only know of one way (unless, of course, WTC 7, along with WTC 1 and 2, were built in some other dimension of space that does not follow the law of physics here in our universe).......CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS!!!!
dcorleone1973 1 year ago
@dcorleone1973 Actually.
1. South penthouse can be seen collapsing seconds before the north starts on many other videos.
IF it was a CD, then all walls would have been equally visible in the debris pile. However the north wall covers the debris pile.
And if it was CD, who rigged it, how was it rigged, when was it rigged, and how come it wasn't set off by the fires much earlier? The building was on fire for hours.
nivarion 1 year ago
@dcorleone1973 You can assume, but that would be false. Also, in real controlled demolitions, you don't need to remove every support on every floor.
You haven't shown how it violated any law of physics. It sounded like you were guessing with no experience in any type of physics, explosives, or demolition background.
shooter686 1 year ago
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One thing that cannot be denied:
In the demise of WTC 7, 58 perimeter and 25 core columns fail vertically and nearly simultaneously.
Put simply:
Each of the four massive vertical columns at each corner of the building, (hundreds of feet apart), and all the other 79 columns within, completely failed within one second.
If that isn't yet another of the magical events that occured on 911, I don't know what would qualify.
Google: 911, an esoteric collection
Top article on page.
MichaelRMcCoy 1 year ago
how can any right minded person think this controlled demolition was caused by falling debris?. it basically proves 9/11 was an inside job
choclatesaltyballz 2 years ago
Seriously folks, anyone who thinks that was a natural collapse from fire is demonstrating an entirely new level of stupidity.
aodscarecrow 2 years ago
@aodscarecrow what does a sky-scraper look like when it collapses from fire?
novawildcat89 2 years ago 5
It doesn't look like anything because it's simply never happened.
aodscarecrow 2 years ago
this is some crazy shit i'm gonna take acid and think about it and see whats up.
there is no proof either way.
novawildcat89 2 years ago
No, there's no real proof either way, however there is history, there is the nature of fire and there is the properties of steel.... each one of those things seem to clearly indicate one glaring fact:
Steel Frame Buildings do NOT collapse neatly into their footprint from FIRE!
aodscarecrow 2 years ago 10
did you see jesse venturas tv show on conspiracy theories?
novawildcat89 2 years ago
@aodscarecrow How many steel frame building fire have you investigated to make that assumption? Now, how many of those were hit by a airliner or had debris from a 110-story building hit them?
Do you know what apples-to-apples means?
shooter686 1 year ago
@aodscarecrow Nonsense. Go and take some 1st or 2nd level Engineering classes at a qualified university. Also, take some classes in material science and you will then see why stating'steel building don't collapse from fire/heat' is just plain ignirance. Tell us why guys with real brains, such as Engineers from MIT, Cal, Washington, Purdue, etc. haven't proven the conspiracy & this tripe you spread.
Why do people on YouTube all try to act like experts when they have no REAL education?
RealityCheck86 1 year ago
@RealityCheck86 Really? Please name one steel framed building that has collapsed from fire besides those that we are told did so on sept 11th 2001.
aodscarecrow 1 year ago
@aodscarecrow Kader Toy Factory - 4 story steel framed building that collapsed in about 30 mins from fire
LOLCATS3111 1 year ago
@LOLCATS3111 Since when is a 4 story toy factory the same as a 47 story steel framed high rise? And if you want to use this as an example please include a link to the blueprints so the actual structural components can be compared. Thanks.
AlNouveau 1 year ago
@AlNouveau ~ you said NO STEEL FRAMED BUILDING IN HISTORY HAS EVER COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE ..... the Kader Toy factory WAS a STEEL FRAMED BUILDING !!!!! ..... how much does it suck for you that you are ALWAYS WRONG ???
LOLCATS3111 1 year ago
@LOLCATS3111 Wrong again Troll. Never said that. You got your posts mixed up again. You're in way over your head with this stuff. And you look stupid comparing a four story toy factory in Thailand to any of the WTC structures. But be my guest, makes it easy for everyone to spot where the bull shit is flowing from.
AlNouveau 1 year ago
@AlNouveau 4 stories or 100 stories doesn't matter we are talking about the effects of fire on structural steel and structural steel failing in fires ..... instead of being a goofball why dont you read The Performance of Unprotected Steel and Composite Steel Frames Exposed to Fire by By Clayton Wastney Department of Civil Engineering University of Canterbury Christchurch, New Zealand ...... pay close attention to pages 9 & 10
LOLCATS3111 1 year ago
@LOLCATS3111 Only a delusional troll would think there no difference between a 4 story steel framed building who's design is unknown and either the towers or WTC7. You're really desperate.
AlNouveau 1 year ago
@aodscarecrow -yes, but on 9/11 it was different. The laws of physics changed on that day. lol.
jamezbond78 1 year ago
@aodscarecrow
Yeah, forget the fact that two 110 story buildings came down crashing into the building, that an entire corner of the base of the building was gone, that there were diesel fuel tanks in the building, that one of the main trusses was severely damaged, that firefighters knew it was coming down... After all those firefighters who risked their lives must have been or are shills for the government, just a slip of the tongue in the rush of the moment, I guess.
Idiot.
wollclark 1 year ago
@wollclark keep telling yourself that, whatever helps you sleep at nite right? go watch some more fox news and leave misinformation to the people who brought down the towers.
Caboose3013 1 year ago
@wollclark Three broken windows and one room on fire cannot collapse a building. Twat.
SnappyPenguins 1 year ago
@SnappyPenguins
25% of the base was taken out when the towers collapsed. And it wasn't just one room on fire, you fucking idiot. Do some actual research instead believing agenda driven liars like yourself. "Gubment is bad and anything that supports the claim that they didn't do it must be a lie!"
wollclark 1 year ago
@wollclark You clearly cannot hold a good argument, so, I win that argument!
SnappyPenguins 1 year ago
@wollclark
Actually those firefighters heard several explosions while they were in the lobby.
Get your shit straight, you cunt.
jasamdomo 1 year ago
@jasamdomo
"that there were diesel fuel tanks in the building"
wollclark 1 year ago
@wollclark
so now there were diesel fuel tanks in the building!!!
that's a new one.
where do you anti-muslim fucks come up with this shit.
jasamdomo 1 year ago
@jasamdomo
I said that in my first comment, I was just quoting it. Maybe you should do a bit of real research instead of going around name calling and making false accusations.
wollclark 1 year ago
@wollclark
Oh, so now you're quoting yourself.
I was thinking more of an actual news source or something.
jasamdomo 1 year ago
@novawildcat89: You can't explain it, because fire has NEVER destroyed a steel building.
donaldengine9 2 years ago
@donaldengine9 Not without the help of an airliner or a 112 story skyscraper falling next to it.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 arg, u won't see explosions if they are internal, u don't even see them when it is controlled demolition. Camera man was pointing his camera directly at the building because it was hit with small debris. Heard the explosions, a few fire fighters said they saw some flashes then the shit crashed.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole "u won't see explosions if they are internal, u don't even see them when it is controlled demolition."?
then...
"a few fire fighters said they saw some flashes then the shit crashed.".
So, where did I lose you?
When yo prep a CD, you need to remove all the walls, windows, drywall, furniture, and everything that can become a projectile. So, since those that setup WTC 7 for a CD, didn't have time to remove those things, then you would have it all becoming a projectile.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 big difference from flashes and from seeing actual explosions, thankfully, there is something called termite. Here is a link, . In this case, the pillars area easily accessible. There is a layer of fire coating that go on the support beams that have to be inspected to insure that the coating is still the right thickness. U don't have to remove all of that. U have never worked construction.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole Ahh, the thermite claim. This is always funny because those that guess with thermite have never worked with it and are forced to speculate at how it works.
You are correct I have never worked on putting them up. But, you need to be able to cut laterally on a vertical beam to be able to remove that beam for demolition. PLEASE tell us all how thermite burns laterally.
You brought it up, and I have tons of questions for you about it. We'll see who has the knowledge.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Did u even bother take a look at the vid I sent you? Really? lol. Ok man. It's not lateral anyways, not set up that way for when it comes to taking down a building. They are set up like a \ on a beam, I can't find the instructional video for it. I emailed u a link to show u what I am talking about. There is molten steel which there shouldn't be. Tower 7 is perfect to show what a controlled demolition looks like. If I'm wrong, show me something to disprove me. I want answers man.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole Yep, saw the old, "I found a patent so it must have been used" tactic. The problem is that all the evidence points away from that item. There were no "cutters" ever found. There were never any evidence of thermite found. There was never any evidence of steel cut in a jagged fashion as would have been the result.
Molten metal proves there was trapped heat, not a result of thermite. Thermite can only burn for a few minutes.
Have you seen a catastrophic skyscraper collapse?
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Actually, thermite was found. The pictures I sent you were to prove that point. And yeah I have. U5DcTuJMxWw
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole The residue found was from the paint protection of the steel. It also would have disproved your thermite cutter device since the painted on thermite theory would have never needed such a device.
So it is either that device you showed me or it was Prof Jones' painted on thermite.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 To me it sounds like you aren't really looking into this at all and you are making the assumption that you do. Be honest. I've showed u plenty the prove this otherwise and u haven't brought forth anything interesting or capable of disproving what I've brought to you. Have a pleasant day troll. Bath in your ignorance like a christian.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole You are using old talking points that have been debunked already. Showing me a patent from 2006 proving it was done in 2001 is not showing proof. Also, you are trying to mix theories. You think that if you present one thermite theory, that it can be supported by other thermite theories.
I see that you are grasping at talking points and do not understand what you are trying to say.
This is clear because instead of asking good questions, you are rehashing old claims.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Its older then that dude. Much older. Ok then, here is a bigger gun, google 9/11 truth or engineers for 9/11. Making the comparison between buildings I see as a good supportive view. This was another tower that was on fire yet didn't crash like the towers did. U haven't even brought fourth anything to work with. First link shows the evidence. Tower 7 shouldn't of fallen, had next to no damage done to it. It was hit with a little debris. Why did it fall?
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole
Lie #1. "Had next to no damage"
It sustained a 15 floor gash on the south side that ran several hundred feet deep--Quoted by several firefighters on scene
What weight bore down on the 9 story building as opposed to 47 floor tower? Do you think that may have something to do with a catastrophic collapse?
Why is your source telling you that there was little or no damage to WTC 7 when ALL eyewitnesses say otherwise? What are you trying to hide?
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 41OCQvu7ULQ&feature=fvw so fire makes buildings fall eh?
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole Are you really asking why didn't a 9 story building collapse compared to a 47 floor skyscraper? Also, compare the damage to WTC 7. Not even close,
I think you need to take the time and do your own research. Taking the word of non-experts posting videos shows that you lack original thought and critical thinking.
Compare similar structures and building types. It sounds to me that you are trying too hard to WANT to think the govt did this as opposed to the truth.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 You completely ignored the pictures that I send you. Those beams were cut. Thermite residue was found in the aftermath. Its in the fucking reports. The government didn't cover what had happened with the towers. Engineers who were seeking out how the collapse happened were doing so, so that this collapse wouldn't happen to any other building in their design. Never said it was an inside job, that there is more to this then we know.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole
Yes, the steel worker standing up and to the left of that firefighter just cut them with a torch. This is clear since thermite does not leave a clean cut.
Thermite was not found in any residue. The element consistent with thermite (which also happen to be common building components) were found. So, by your claim, common building components being present in a building collapse prove thermite? Really?
If you never said it was an "inside job" why bring up thermite?
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 What building components contain thermite? The reason why I brought it up is because scientific study of this found residue that is left behind from thermite reactions that are control. It does leave a clean cut and that isn't from a torch. I have enough welding xp to know that isn't cut with a torch. The Iranian president came out and admitted to planning the twin towers devastation. Right now, I'm mixed feelings. I don't want to give credit to the US for something so obvious.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole
"What building components contain thermite?"
This little gem is going to all the boards for all to see.
Now I know why the best and brightest of the CTists are still holding out with these old beauties of thoughts.
By the way, it is thermite that has the elements of building construction, not the other way around, genius.
#2 best statements of all time?
Yep, you guessed it, a CTist quoting the Iranian President on how 9-11 occurred. You can't make this stuff up!
shooter686 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole
Dare to show a single Youtube video containing thermite that shows a clean cut? I'm sure you vast experience with incendiary devices will be some help to you.
Also, if you have so much "welding xp", then why do all the steel beams that were cut for removal have the exact same cut?
I'm sure your welding, demolition, explosives, incendiary experience will be able to answer that all in a few seconds.
We''ll see.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 No worries brother. Watch DPR's latest video. I've made a conclusion. I'm on your side now. Took some more time to figure out the truth. I'm happy that I've come to an understanding now.
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@shooter686 why didnt they cut a path to the beam? why didnt they cut beams in line first before cutting that one? Where did they stand in all the debrie to cut it? why do you think someone would take a photo of it if it was not out of the usaul? and haha ha thurmite is a common element in all buildings? If you want to prove there were exposions in the building just watch it come down. Buildings that are collapsing dont have a big plume at the top throwing things up and out. duhhh
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall If you saw how they did the rescue, they used cranes and cherry pickers to move the steel workers into place to remove the beams that were above the trapped people. They didn't have time to cut a path since they needed to cut specific beams quickly and remove the debris to help with the effort.
All buildings contains elements of thermite, not that thermite is present in all buildings.
How many buildings have you see that collapsed from other than explosives? Just curious.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Dont tell me you saw how they did it because none of us saw anything they didnt want us to see and its just hear say as to when they cut it, nobody can prove when it was cut now. unless they have witnesses. and yea a building can have the elements of thermite.. it can have the elements of lots of things cant they. I have seen many concrete come down in earthquakes. and overpasses dont crumble to dust.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@shooter686 or have a pryro clastic cloud
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall
Pyroclastic cloud only refers to volcanoes. Since there were no volcanoes in the vicinity of the collapse, that word has no use in this discussion.
This also shows why those with little or no under standing of the subject can only parrot what they are told.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 the clouds are also created from explosives. 2billion lbs of dust was created from it and spread as deep as four inches all over N.Y.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall
Keeping in mind that you would need 1000s of tons of explosives to "create" that much dust, I would rather believe that the shear amount of energy created by gravity (8+ billion joules) would be responsible for that creation of dust.
Remember, that even in a real controlled demolition, gravity is the biggest generator of energy. Explosives are used to get it started.
So the presence of dust proves neither a controlled demolition or the existence of explosives.
shooter686 1 year ago
@katlovesall Dont tell me you were there or know anymore about what happened there. Because you know just as much as anyone of us does about the whole subject. Its all hear say. do you see that cloud exploding in an earthquake moving down a building.. ?? NO.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall The cloud is from the floors collapsing into each other. Nothing new or strange about it.
As for knowing about the topic, I have considerable more experience, training, and understanding of the subjects.
I understand that the typical CTist is limited to what they are told by their sources, but they are purposely not given all the info. Otherwise those giving the info would be found to be fraudulent.
This is why there are no real experts supporting these claims.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 well you can believe what you and I believe what I want that is what makes america special. I find it very hard to debate a subject on here since many of what Im saying is censored. Dont think for a moment that I am not patriotic for believeing what I do. In fact I care more about loosing our constitutional rights and what has happened recently here than most.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall
So, what is being censured? I think it is patriotic to believe that you can stand for what is right. But if you are basing that opinion on false information, then that patriotism is misplaced,
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 How can I write what is being cencored if its being cencored? lol and like a mother that still loves a child after discovering it has done something wrong, or a child finds a parent that has cheated.. we still love them, just as we do our country.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall So, you love your country, you think it killed 3000 of its own people, yet do not see the fact that there is ZERO valid evidenced to support this?
I think you need to read more than just a few CT websites that are feeding you a line of reasoning that falls short of logical and scientific.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Do I love my country YES! do I love corruption NO. anyone that loves what america stands for will be asking questions too. We lost one of our basic constitutional rights with the patriot act and we are not supposed to ask who and what? Logical scientific proof. I will leave that up to the experts in a coart of law.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall @katlovesall
Actually, there have been a few cases and ZERO pieces of evidence has to get past the evidenciary hearings. Why do you think there has yet to be a single Grand Jury to take any 9-11 case?
Because speculation is not evidence. Guesses are not evidence. Non-expert opinions are not allowed in any court.
So, without logical scientific evidence, you just have what you WANT to believe.
Why would you WANT to think your country would ever do such a thing?
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Well there are more coming up, and it is not speculation. They have had more proof than you debunkers have for logic and proof. and how do you know what I believe? I started out on this wanting someone to prove to me one way or the other and you debunkers just insult people and dont come up with any real facts.
katlovesall 1 year ago
@katlovesall
What is coming up? Who is "they"?, and what "proof" do they possess? So far it is speculation and opinion. Neither of which is admissible in any court.
So, give me an example of any proof you think exists.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 in the Spanish-American war, it is known that the U.S Navy destroyed one of their own ships, several U.S marines died on that ship, they blamed it on the Spanish Armada, and took that as a reason to take over the Philippines and make a war time tax on people to wage the war... I'm not saying that this is what is happening, but government is ruled by persons, not by an all self righteous, perfect being, have to take that in count corruption and ruthlessness is not new.
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil "I'm not saying that this is what is happening." My point exactly. If you cannot prove it was a false flag, then trying to say it was is pure speculation. The US justice system does not use previous acts as proof of a recent act. So to use any false flag in history as proof would be inadmissible as evidence.
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 repeating patterns of behavior's has in fact established a legal precedence for legal action, its called profiling and used extensively by law enforcement agencies in the u.s. there is in fact nothing in u.s. history that makes it out to be deserving of sainthood, 9/11 is just another example.
vengencefrom1979 1 year ago
@vengencefrom1979 Yes, it is a tool, but not evidence. It is used for investigation, but is inadmissible in court. 9-11 is proof that those that desire to make money or notoriety out of inventing a CT is easily possible due to the high number of gullible people in this world. Imagine what would happen to all those that are making a living off of this CT if an investigation was actually done? Who would pay the mortgages of Gage, Jones, Rodriguez, Avery, et al?
shooter686 1 year ago
@novawildcat89 maybe it wasn´t a sky-scraper,but it was a mountain bike who dressed up like one ? a bike WOULD collapse in a fire, i did some research on this so i know what iam talking about
HDRtour 1 year ago
i veiwed this video and a cotrolled demolition video, BOTH LOOK SIMILAR!
MrCSXboy98 2 years ago
Look, the building was not "extensively damaged." The damned thing caught fire and came down hard. That doesn't even happen to four story walkups!
LeoAdd0 2 years ago
Shooter, there are many examples of buildings that tipped over from bad demolition attempts and from earthquakes and other damage. Are you saying something similar could NOT have happened to WTC7?
Skeptic121 2 years ago
The Turkey had the entire middle and side removed at once. That did not happen with WTC 7. WTC 7 had a chuck of the central portion along with hours of uncontrolled fires. The failed CD was also a completely different type of building. It wasn't a steel framed 43 floor building.
shooter686 2 years ago
shooter: search YouTube for China 16 Buildings Demolition and watch buildings tip over and tell us again that could not have happened to WTC7!
Skeptic121 2 years ago
How many buildings similar to WTC 7 have collapsed? How many tipped over?
Similar construction...similar height...similar damage.
It is too easy to speculate on what you think would happen or what you want to happen.
Until you find demolition experts and explosives experts to assist you in your guesses, you have nothing but pure speculation.
shooter686 2 years ago
Look on Google Earth and note that this video was taken from the NORTH, and slightly to the east, of WTC7. Thus, it does not show the damaged SOUTH side. In fact, we have only a few stills that clearly show damage to to south side. All videos of WTC7's collapse show that the undamaged NORTH facade dropped right along with the damaged SOUTH side. WTC7 leaned only about ten degrees to the south as it neared the ground. The mystery of WTC7 is the MANNER of its collapse, nearly straight and even.
Skeptic121 2 years ago
watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
To me its obvious what happened. The truth is anyone who thinks that this building fell from debris damage is full of guff. You are all just afraid to see the nasty truth about how the "bosses" of this world really are. Gimme a break people.
brianarnold11 2 years ago
tell me that wasnt a controled demolition... "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB"
meboboya 2 years ago
Easy!! It couldn't have been a CD.
Just saying so proves you cannot tell the difference.
shooter686 2 years ago
what is your training, education and experience in demolition?? how did you come to your conclusion?? although I disagree with your opinion you are entitled to it and I mine........
meboboya 2 years ago
I dont know what is more disturbing the government terrorizing its own country or people still beleiving it was in fact muslim terrorists
rageatm4life 2 years ago 2
Or those that think people with no experience, education or knowledge of explosives can make up "facts" of such things.
Imagine any real expert saying it was a controlled demolition.
I guess the gullible folks that believe in 9-11 fairy tales are the same that think Bigfoot roamed the woods by their pappy's place or there are crop circles in the Illuminati wheat field.
Alex Jones laughs at you guys all the way to the bank
shooter686 2 years ago 3
@shooter686 sorry but seeing a building fall like that is plenty of evidence. Just check out engineers for 9/11
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole Evidence of what? It looked exactly like a catastrophic collapse. Why do you think nobody heard any primary or secondary explosions before or during the collapse? Why do you think all the firefighters on scene agreed that it was going to collapse based on what they saw and heard (Creaking and bowing of the supports)?
Do you think that if you don't know the difference between a real controlled demolition and a catastrophic collapse that you will mistake one for the other?
shooter686 1 year ago
@shooter686 Wow really? I've heard different and I've seen different. There is news footage that showed this very building fall with the sound of explosives, I've already linked ppl with footage of fire fighters stating that they heard explosions. Try again man
MilitantAtheistAhole 1 year ago
@MilitantAtheistAhole Actually, you are saying that you heard "explosions", not "explosives". This is the most common mistake by those that do not understand the difference. There is not a single eyewitness that said it was explosives. They heard "booms" and other types of loud sounds.
By the way, have you ever seen a catastrophic collapse of any building either on Youtube or in person?
shooter686 1 year ago
himselfe is nothing more than an atheist. Know what that means? It means besides not believeing in a higher power or God, but also they believe in nothing.
070469blueboy 2 years ago
You are confusing Athiest with Nihilist, idiot.
spitlord 2 years ago
Shut the fuckup punk. I wasn't talking to you.
070469blueboy 2 years ago
By posting a comment, you are in effect talking to the whole community. Idiot.
spitlord 2 years ago
spitlord:
You call me idiot? Really? With a name like spitlord, you bettter watch out who you call idiot.
Want to debate me you little piece of spit?
070469blueboy 2 years ago
Yawn...anyone can bawl and shout when they're anonymous.
So tedious that youtube comments always descend into name-calling.
Face to face it would be a different story, wouldn't it?
oo1ooo1oo 2 years ago
oo1ooo1oo:
Face to face would be a different story?
Yes, you are correct about that.
070469blueboy 2 years ago
Actually blueboy I'm agnostic, but I'm always amused by people who use the word atheist pejoratively.
himselfe 2 years ago
I cant possibly present the evidence here and do it justice. Look up architects and engineers for 911 truth. It is the most reputable source backed by more then 550 architects and engineers, as well as over 3000 people petitioning for new investigation.
jesusgrc1762 3 years ago 2
Not a pre-set demolition. Nor was it fire although it was small part of the collapse. There was extensive damage suffered when pieces of debris fell on WTC 7. Near the base of the south end of WTC 7 got the worst of it. 20 STORIES WAS SHEARED OFF NEAR THE BASE OF WTC 7. There are pics available on google. You will see a huge gash near the base. When you see the building collapse. it kinda tilts slighty towards the south end. Hence the weak damaged side of WTC 7.
godzilla1077 3 years ago
Oh God - use your eyes and your brain.
Just because something is too terrible to consider does not mean that it didn't happen.
ewingsco 3 years ago
"Just because something is too terrible to consider does not mean that it didn't happen."
Exactly, just because people can't comprehend the idea that buildings collapsed on their own due to damage, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
himselfe 3 years ago
sorry pal, NIST blames the 'whole' collapse on non-existent fire....
and they also acknowledge free fall speed for 1/3 of the collapse[NICSTAR1A 3.6]
...so what is the agent, that can cause the entire roof line, to fall, instantly, symmetrically, evenly, for over 100 feet
hgfbob 3 years ago
maybe the bombs went off on that side a milisecond too fast... just wondering... how did they fit 20 stories into the base of a building... a building thats 40something stories... if 20 stories sheared off a side... then we'd see half a building standing there, not a whole one with fires in three rooms... and the people in the building that harrowingly escaped woulda been like... what dead?
medivh421 3 years ago
Looks a lot like a planned demolition to me. What build falls perfectly in its foot print like that when fire was on either side. it would fall to one side or the other not collapse perfectly in the middle.
RachelMarie1992 3 years ago
It has a lot to do with the way the building was built. It a specialised system of support structure on the lower floors because it was built around a power substation.
himselfe 3 years ago
o ok
now I get it, but where all of the buildings destroyed?
JohnJohnix13 3 years ago
I don't get one thing...whats WTC7 or WT7???
I'm not American
JohnJohnix13 3 years ago
7 buildings made up the World Trade Center. WTC 1 & 2 were the North and South towers (the Twin Towers). WTC 3 was a hotel, located inbetween the towers. WTC 4, 5 and 6 were low-rise plaza buildings. WTC 7 (the building in this video) was across the road from the main WTC site.
JCRgames 3 years ago
it didn't fall like that, that has to be another building.
LunarCat10 3 years ago
sorry, but I didn't understand.
LunarCat10 3 years ago
controlled demolition .. ..simple .. just look at the building fall .. like silverstein said it "pull it"
yourboycal 3 years ago
Jesse Ventura: Not just ex-governor and ex-wrestling superstar. Jesse Ventura is a veteran of the elite U.S. Navy SEALs. He was on the UDT; "Frogman". Amphibious warfare. Demolition on land and water. Water crew are interchangeable with land crew but land crew are not interchangeable with water crews because of the necessary swimming skills. He is also a former Professor at Harvard for Political Science.
Youtube: Governor Jesse Ventura On Hannity & Colmes 4-8-08
watch?v=1lUhVFpwhgE
Machida356 3 years ago
All those credentials and he still gets basic facts wrong... amazing!
himselfe 3 years ago
not exactly "hi-res" but how can anything be hi-res on youtube?
just2w4tch 4 years ago
Good point lol.
jacraf 3 years ago
i dont understand how people think that this was controlled. it came down at 5something in the afternoon, and the building was evacuated of everyone, including firemen, by 2 because FDNY knew it was coming down. it was unstable.
controlled demolition theories make no sense in the other 2 towers, and they make even LESS sense in this one. why would they demolish a building at 5? and not at 1030 like the other ones? goddamn, people.
mykatissatan 4 years ago