Fuck you, Sarah Palin! Just take some responsibility of what happened, instead of putting all the blame on loughner. Or at least say you're sorry if you might have influenced the event
@emerson24 Please cite your source. A independent double blind study that has been published in no less then six recognized papers. Your claim is dubious at best and most likely based on your own desires and not fact. Pray is no more useful the any other O.C.D. or delusional behavior.
Guns are used more often by citizens to stop crime than start crime. What happened in Arizona was unfortunate, but for you people that think banning guns is a good idea because of this incident it will leave more people dead and vulnerable in the long run!
@YourSkyliner You obviously can't prove it with numbers, because not everybody that scares a criminal away with a gun reports it to the police, that'd be wasting their time.
The Arizona shooter, Jared Loughner was a left-wing pothead. In order for a true mental illness to be diagnosed one must be clean for two years for brain chemistry to normalize enough for a proper diagnosis. The left is trying to blame it entirely on mental illness now that it has been established that he was a liberal. (see my About Me for link)
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At first the left not only blamed Palin & Beck for the shooting but campaigned to revoke Palin’s right to freedom of speech.
On 12 January 2011, the Mexican government unveiled a new database giving a total of 34,612 people killed over the past four years. This total included suspected drug gang members, members of the security forces as those considered innocent bystanders
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We're mourning the loss of six in Az shooting. Just imagine if that crap crossed the border.
@derberg19486 No Goddammit! Americans do not worship Palin. *Some* Americans do.
Don't buy into the media crap that she's incredibly popular. She is among certain ultra-Reich-wing loonies, but that's about it. The only reason she's still in the public eye is because of statements like these that get broadcasted around and Faux News.
@InverStone60 For being a whiny offended liberal faggot you talk alot of shit..Well,listen her fag swoon boy were republicans we got balls..We dont retreat,we reload an hope a liberal pussy might be in the way hahah..You hate palin cause she points out your party hates anything thats white an works hard.Your just a white guilt ridden bleeding heart that wants my hard earned tax dollars to pay for illegal mexicans an lazy ass ghetto queens that smoke blunts an make babies all day......FALL BACK..
This has nothing whatsoever to do with Sarah Palin.
How do you know if Bill Mahers rhtoric didn't set this lunatic off? Jared was more Leftist than anything else. He probably listened to Maher and Stewart. Blame them.
@Frugs22 - Maybe because she was a Blue dog democrat and voted in ways that pissed him off. You'll need to ask Jared that question. But one thing is certain; with his views on the Afghan war, welfare, GOD, and Religion he is 100 percent NOT Right of center.
@Richardisdorky Yea,i know im racist cause i dont want my tax money to pay for some ghetto queen whos smokes blunts all day an makes babies so she can collect a check.Or pay for people who lied on there mortgage application an i didnt..Or pay for illegal mexicans who wave there flag in my face then want free healthcare,welfare an education..An palin points that out.But were not liberal faggots..We wont retreat,we reload an hope some asshole like you gets in the way..
@CaptainHowdeey Yes because violence is always an answer. A selfish, unintelligent, and poorly thought out answer, but an answer non the less. Of course I'm really not all that worried about Palin and her supports. Main because they are in the minority, but more importantly because even if by some miracle she were to get elected to a public office again she would do the least amount of work possible. Then quit after two years. Mainly what I'm saying is she serves no real purpose.
@Richardisdorky Im the kind of guy to turn the other cheek like my loving God has told me too.So ill pray for you an hope you lose that hate in your heart for those who think different from you..May God bless you sir..Even if you dont believe in him,he still loves you.
@CaptainHowdeey Whoa you tell me I hate. I'm not the one "reloading" I didn't use the term "liberal faggot". I didn't complain that because a few poor people may get a little help that they may or may not have earned. My only wish is for peace. There is nothing worth killing another person for. Yet you are the one who admits that your a racist and doesn't want people to be able to disagree. SO YOU ARE THE ONE WITH HATE, That's what being a racist is. Oh and there is no god even if you believe.
@CaptainHowdeey This smacks of two face back pedaling to me. I hope you realize that this only make you look like a hypocrite. Not a huge surprise though.
@Richardisdorky Im sorry you feel that way richard..I will pray for you in my nightly prayers.I always try an put myself in others shoes to see how id feel..If i took it personal everytime someone didnt agree with me or put me down id be one angry person..Thats why i just feel bad for sarah palin that people put the death of a 9 year old girl on her..But it was nice speaking w/you an you take care ..
@CaptainHowdeey Don't waist your time praying. Spend that time doing something good for someone else. Do that in my name. Praying does nothing but make you feel good about yourself. Try doing something good for a stranger without them asking you. Give money to the next homeless person you meet. Hell just tell a complete stranger you care whether or not they succeed and you want them to be happy.Do it because it's right not for god. I love you because your here and that's all the reason I need.
@CaptainHowdeey Oh and most of your taxes goes to kill brown people over oil. So you should be happy about that right. Racist like it when brown people die and then get to take their oil.
we all should be affraid as long as republican maniacs are that strong and i fear they always will be. germany had more nobel price winners then any other country and yet "we" voted for hitler
maybe i worry too much what other people think, but it also helps on the job. if i see something that may not offend me but i will be aware of the possible offense or bad outcome of the audience who may see it. or if im given private information and there is no procedure on securing that specific info, i make something up in with persons best interest in mind to not let that information get stored all willy nilly. use your brians.
@InverStone600 after the arizona shooting we apparently cant say anything offensive or violent anymore. that includes you. im still waiting for the gov't to ban "the catcher in the rye" for inspiring john lennon's assassion.
@hfiosl Well all I'm saying is that "good" and "bad" words are all just subject to different circumstances. Like, what makes them bad? The fact that a majority believes them to be offensive? It doesn't really make sense that one constructed sound coming from our mouths hurts people's feelings more than another. Its honestly dumb.
People with severe mental disabilities are EVERYWHERE. I live with one. I am scared to death of what my oldest child might do one day. He is a great kid, and I love him with every fiber of my being, but he has very scary moments. He has therapists, a psychiatrist, loving parents, and he is on medication, but...if people put violent images into his head and convince him that he is in jeopordy, he may freak out. PLEASE stop the apoplytic rhetoric...
@dougyoolikeme War and patriotism is completely different than wanting to die cause someone got shot by a nutter. Giving your life for the child that had no chance at life would be a better sacrifice than a later in life politician that has already lived and you didn't know until she got shot. Your comment there insults soldiers not supports them.
I'm not a psychologist, (I'm just a hillbilly from the mountains of West Virginia), but I figgure that the shooter was suffering from the undiferentiated type. It's reported that he was unsuccessful at school and withdrawn in social relationships. Further, he may have been prone to outbursts in public (classroom) of grandious or political nature. Politics may have been his outlet for his grandious delusions to take shape in reality.
If that's true - then you are cruel to blame the innocent.
Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.
There's five types:
•Catatonic - withdrawn and flat unable to do things
•Disorganized - thoughts jump to unrelated subjects
•Paranoid - anger, arguementive, anxious, delusions of grandeur
And here I thought that a conspiracy minded, paranoid sociopath did the shooting. Is anyone not given credit for independant action these days?
First it was "Blame the Tea Party!!!" and then it was found that Lohner was a social Democrat.
On NPR I heard a doctor claim that marijuanna abuse was a contributing factor to his paranoid schitzophrenia - justifying the costly and ineffective "War on Drugs."
I think is is better to attribute this act to the gunman - but that would make sense.
In this video you took the words right out of my mouth. When Palin' spoke re. democracy her words were truly inspiring & I couldn't agree with her more...but her lack of apology or ANY expression of personal responsibility, accountability or remorse for her actions AFTER GIFFORD'S VERY CLEAR VIDEO statement in reference to Palin's threatening ad her behavior is absolutely appalling, horrible and unacceptable." Although she said words expressing sorrow to those harmed Palin looked mad not sad.
The Left's accusations against the Right have been debunked. They have lowered themselves to the point of no return. The American people are seeing thru the Left and are figuring out how they operate. What they tried to do, to pin the shootings on conservatives, has probably caused the death of progressive agenda for a long time now. Even the President has distanced himself from the baseless accusations of the Left which is a big sign that the progressive agenda is falling apart.
Some of the shooter's online postings show that he thought that Bush was behind the 911 attacks. Perhaps his violent disillusion with public officials began with this. So blame Michael Moore + his ilk
Wow she said that? I bet she brushed her shoulders off like "Meh no one is stupid enough to actually listen to Sarah Palin and shoot me. It can't happen to me" i think i would think the same way.
Wow, the loons are still trying to crucify the right and palin over this huh? It's sadder since it's already become clear this wasn't a political shooting. A madman shot at everyone. Grow up kiddies.
@HilarityBribo Even if the guy is a madman, you think the response of someone who put a target over someone else's face would be a little more sympathetic.
@Pokarot If I were being attacked the same way the leftist snakes are attacking I probably would have responded with a middle finger. Let's face it though, no matter what Palin says or does you're going to hate it. You're blinded by hate.
@HilarityBribo I don't know if I'd use the word hate, but I definitely dislike Palin. She's backwards as hell, goes out of her way to get offended by jokes (Letterman / Family guy), and seems as smart as my three week old leftovers. Just because I don't like her doesn't mean I instantly hate everything she does (Her going on SNL with Tina Fey, yup that's about it...). I guess that's the difference between us, I care about what actions they take, you care about their political party.
@hfiosl Honestly no it isn't. Not in these circumstances. You really want her to have any sort of power in this country? She is a half retarded house wife that has very little power but some how motivates a bunch of people to follow her. She is just dumb. I think that politicians like her are the ones who need to be shot. Why do the good ones like JFK, Lincoln, fucking Martin Luther King(although not a politician) get killed while the ass holes live?
Inciting violence and then throwing salt on the wound she helped inflict. Sarah Palin is a disgusting person. I'm sorry I have to share the same species and gender as her. She is not a representative of humanity nor is she a representative of femininity.
It is obvious that the teaparty -panhandler and their cohorts radio announcers are guilty of this horrendous crime of monstruosity! But fortunately America is a evolutionary moving society that with time and evolution will educate and eradicate irrational and monstrous behaviour such as these tea party panhandlers or extremists!
Sarah Palin and the tea party are a cancer growing with in the US and like any cancer it must me eradicated! and once eradicated America can start to heal"
Logically If someone goes on a TP Killing spree, I can go on making this statement without regret or responsibility.
Right?
I can later claim that I meant via nonviolent political action or some blame the right for existing
Anyone who is able to kill another human being without remorse is a psychopath... doesn't matter what his political views were. can't blame anyone for that, not even sarah palin
If Cenk is simply chastising people for what he considers irresponsible rhetoric, I have no problem with that. If he thinks that legislation would provide an answer, I disagree utterly and completely.
Everyone does realize the democrats had a cross hair map too right?
So because no one acted on theirs... it's cool for them to have it... I gotcha. I guess someone but the assailant always has to be the blame in America. But I'm not sure what's worse, the fact this travesty's been politicized, or the fact they whored out to Netflix right after they finished talking about something like this.
@Berserker07 The only evidence I have seen of this is a map of 'bull-eyes' made in 2004. While I admit this is similar it is also different in some VERY crucial aspects.
If I am wrong please reference me to the information you have, that I have not seen.
@ASparrow1 It's hardly different. A bulls-eye marks were you shoot just as much as a cross hair and btw, it's not just guns, cross hairs are used on scopes of all kinds in general, it's used as a graphing and measurement tool at long range, that's all
But just saying "they're different" doesn't make them different different. I go to the gun range and shoot bulls-eyes through my cross-hairs. Just admit, the democrats aren't innocent, they got lucky and don't have a right to bash Palin for this
@Berserker07 You are right. My response did not do justice to either of our positions. I was rushed and I apologise.
I see your point that cross hairs can be used that in other instruments such as theodolites, I had not considered this. However i maintain there is a fundamental difference in the alluded messages. The symbolic cross-hair used were an obvious reference to the idiom 'in the cross hair' which is undeniable a reference to the sight of a gun.
@Berserker07 A bulls eye symbol is a target. Again I agree with you that this can be associated with with guns and violence, however again I have to address the idiomatic reference. The bulls eye as a symbol represent a area to focus to achieve a desired result. Cross-hair is a area of focus to destroy.
I grant you the difference is subtle. Perhaps it is clearer to me as I live outside the US, where guns are very rare. To me cross hairs means guns, the same is not true for bulls-eyes
You can stab someone pretty easily with a knife or poison them. The physical effort required in killing someone is insignificant. There are better psychological and sociological reasons that prevent the sane from murder in ways no amount of physical controls could match.
Sarah Palin is a f***ing moron but people are talking about Bill Clinton for what reason again? Because he was a good president? if you mean good as in didn't really do anything but let the country take care of it self and not stand in the way... you are right. If you mean good as in did something... I have a hard time finding what good he actually did.
@so4eyo Bill Clinton actually contributed to society. He was a bad husband but a good man. Unlike some Alaskan ( Insert douchbag remark like some asshole).
@so4eyo Did I ever say Palin was responsible and where did I mention Christianity? No where. Nice red herrings, try not to float off topic but while we're on the topic, why wasn't he excommunicated for his actions?
@so4eyo He read some of Ayn Rand, Plato, Aldous Huxley, and believed the NASA space flights were fake and a bunch of other conspiracy theories. I guess YouTube influenced him, if one followed your logic, yes. Fact is, he was all over the place.
@so4eyo And that means what? Nothing but I guess you don't know Mein Kampf has multiple mentions of God and praising him. I doubt you know much of any thing. He also had some conservative books the right wing are ignoring. I take it you aren't the sharpest knife in the kitchen giving how you ignore that one of the victims was "targeted" by Palin. That's what people are talking about. Anti war? What rational person isn't anti war?
If Sarah Palin was in any way decent, she would back down from any political position she has (I don't know or care what it is) and admit she was partially responsible for the terrible outcome her actions sparked.
Sarah Palin is allowed to do whatever she wants. If a gegular person did the same thing(place cross-hairs on U.S. representatives), the consequences would be far worse. And if that perrson were Arab, he would be sitting in a cell near the coast of Cuba. But Sarah Palin gets away with it because of how popular she is.
of course Sarah Palin has no remorse, she loves the murder of freedom, that's why she's a Republican loud-mouth. She's not any kind of real Tea Party person at all - all the real Tea party people are anti-republican and anti-democrat, grass-roots. She's the opposite. Her & Glen Beck claiming ownership over the Tea party is clearly a shut-down of real change. The kind of change they want is what any republican and a number of democrats would say is "anti-american"
@so4eyo She isn't responsible but she could have indirectly influenced him. It's odd one of the victims happen to be on Palin's list. You have to be retarded to not acknowledge that, also dishonest.
2) Whine about how this might affect their gunrights.
3) Whine about how they SHOULD be allowed to use violent rethoric in spite of this.
4) Try to pretend it has nothing to do with politics.
That's all I've seen the righties do. And that's all I'd EXPECT of them. They don't care about this at all beyond how it might affect their little plans.
@Shavarnarak They're the ones who made it political. People just pointed out that a politician got shot and happened to be one of Palin's targets. From what it looks like, conservatives are too stupid to understand the concept of influence. They think people are saying Palin directly had something to do with it when people are talking about how the right wing could have indirectly influenced him. They just don't get it.
@ #3 Interesting to see someone on the left raging against the first amendment. As the Republicans pretend to move more towards libertarianism it seems Democrats are moving more towards totalitarianism as a response (and I use that word in a loose sense).
And the rest of us sit back and watch the dance of the clowns.
@thegillotine09 First, how do you figure. Second-I don't see you disputing what he said. Can't one of you conservatives (or whatever) just "man up" and admit the this crap was wrong and that psychos can listen to it and take it to heart? Just one of you? Just once?
First - because I've seen calls for legislation restricting "hate speech" from liberals. I think that blame falls primarily on his parents who ignored his dangerous behavior prior to the shooting and possibly on his psychiatrist. I don't think we should live our lives in fear of provoking the insane and unpredictable elements of our society. I would say the same to someone demanding that Catcher in the Rye be banned because it was cited as an excuse to murder.
@thegillotine09 There is a HUGE difference between subject murder in a work, and inciting. If you can't tell the difference, there's no point continuing discourse. And I (and I think MOST liberals) aren't suggesting that Palin & her ilk CAUSED tragedies, merely that they influenced mentally challenged individuals into violent behavior. Aren't the conservatives the ones always trying to restrict t.v. and the "Marilyn Mansons" of the world because they influence violence. Now, all of a sudden,
@thegillotine09 it's okay. No one is looking to restrict free speech (it's the Liberals that try to thwart the conservative efforts to restrict artists, t.v., internet, etc.). What people are saying, is that insighting violence, purposely, is wrong (especially from our "civil servants") and those who do, should be held accountable. As a conservative, your party has always gone after the Marilyn's yet you won't even entertain the IDEA that maybe-yeah, your party was a little irresponsible. As
@thegillotine09 for hate speech legislation, you are aware the hate groups are already restricted from trying to incite violence. It's pretty subjective (therefore difficult to legislate), but hate speech that deliberately calls for violence, directly is dangerous. Especially when you consider the low education and mental instability of so many people out there. Particularly, those that your party attracts (no disrespect meant-these are statistics the even the Republican party agrees with).
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of both sides :P
I'm technically a registered Democrat and voted for Obama (no chance in hell of putting Palin anywhere near power) but I have no party.
Directly inciting violence is of course reprehensible - but I refuse to let the insane or instable elements of the world dictate my actions. That line of thinking is the same as the person who blames the victim of rape for "encouraging" the attacker by wearing revealing clothes.
@thegillotine09 I too, am an independent and supported Obama (THAT won't be happening again [though I will NEVER vote Republican, unless he/she's REALLY something special]). I agree with you-can't let the minority, unstable element dictate to you or society in general, but their is (or at least, should be) a line, where we say enough. That is too much-and at least try to recognize the possible danger. Not dictation, just recognition that their IS a potential danger. Personal responsibility.
And FYI I'm a registered Democrat :P Pretty moderate but sliding towards libertarian because it seems to be the only logically consistent political ideology out there.
When did this lunatic assassin indicate he was a "tea party" supporter? I'm still waiting for one shred of evidence this guy was inspired by the right wing. The election is over, you can quit the political trolling already.
I am done with this story, I am not American so I will treat it as American's treat bigger tragedies in the world... laugh and say it's not my problem. Also that you deserved it.
@ThatBlackPanda His facebook page hasn't existed for a while. However, sounds like you've been duped by one of the many hoax facebook pages that were created by left wing nuts.
Hopefully this is an isolated incident, and in all liklihood it is thankfully. But even if there is a remote chance that another lunatic is waiting in the wings makes Palin's lack of denouncement that much more irresponsible. I pray this is the end of the violence, I fear that it is not.
Now that Palin has used the offensive term "blood libel," a few months from now she'll play the victim once again (after her brain trust speechwriters have had some time to work on it) where she'll blame everyone else for her use the term and claim it's OUR fault for being offended.
The word apology doesn't exist in her vocabulary, it's too big for her to understand.
@eatmorenachos I know you didn't know that until after the media said it was offensive. It is such an obscure phrase; Palin is a moron but I'm starting to believe that the left is desperate to take her down as they parse everything she says trying to find anything they can to attack her.
I didn't know its meaning---but my Jewish friends certainly did. Someone probably wrote the speech for her cause it's got big words in it, but how could she possibly see those words and not ask what they mean? She MUST have heard of Google by now.
She's being criticized for using violence-tinged language and gun imagery----and her approach is to use even more graphic language while playing the victim?
Ignorance and narcissism do not a presidential candidate make.
Yeah after reading the bio of this kid I bet he was looking at Sarah Palin's web page to find who to assassinate.Morons. You seriously think an atheist kid who is boderline anarchist was incited by FoxNews. Use your heads dumb fucks. Sarah Palin is still stupid, but she didn't cause people to be killed by putting crosshairs on their area.
@Motionedout Yes, everyone already realizes who the killer is, so re-stating over and over would just be redundant. The issue here is to shed some light on those who have played at least some part in the events that lead up to the shooting. And again, NO ONE is Blaming anyone, we just want people to take responsibility for what they say.
@TheSuperRider I agree with you that Palin needs to take responsibilty for what she says. Though I'd argue that if we really wanted to "shed some light on those who played some part in the shooting" (which to me is just another way of saying blame belongs to somebody else) we could ask who sold Loughner the gun, who saw him last, who didn't speak to him (or up about him) when he was in college, etc. In other words, if we take that route, we don't need to look far from home.
The defenders of sarah palin are on full alert right now..never have I seen them swarming everywhere so much. Their plan: make the democrats seem as if they own the shooter REGARDLESS of the fact that the democrats were the victims in this situation.
This is chilling. But Loughner chose to do this, it's his fault and only his fault.
I know this opinion isn't popular. What Fox News and Palin do is horribly irresponsible and wrong (and should stop)------- but we have get our priorities straight. We have to call out the people who are actually perpetrating the violence.
@MrAdamseye I don't know, I just think more people are smarter than Fox News or Sarah Palin than we'd like to think sometimes. Cenk himself changed from conservative to liberal, even with Fox News and Rush Limbaugh blaring away. There's always going to be violent imagery in our media, whether it's serious journalism covering a war, or a emotional demagoguery like Fox. In this case--as much as I hate what Fox News does, again, yes, they need to cut it out--they really aren't at fault here.
@Motionedout I would agree, but I know Bill has ridiculed Ludacris for his lyrics. Saying his words have an impact, and rightfully so admitting Palin's words could do the same. I can not forgive a hypocrite.
@MrAdamseye Yeah, using Bill's own warped logic against him does have a certain appeal to it...though Cenk didn't bring that up (which he should have), thatt's a good point.
It's so ironic that Sarah's trying to say it's not political, but seems to be steering this toward sympathy for herself and the Republican party.
To hell with politics, and to hell with your party. You did something wrong, own up to it. These are seriously the people we "choose" to represent us??
megagagnon1, I'm not condoning any violence by Palin has clearly (but passively) declared war on the opposition and it's no surprise why some might think the world's better off without her. The right is so full of shit. Most claim they're under the "moral" authority of god but when it comes down to it, they remember how vengeful their is.
The Tea party is so concerned about losing their country, yet they don't realize America was never run by a bunch of people so stupid and gullible, that they would follow a moron like Palin. Idiocracy was just a movie, not a country that you lost to smarter people.
he loved gifford and was a liberal... he was just a crack head... bottom line.
with all the violent music, video games and movies... how dare you blame one woman sarah palin?... so should music artists, video game makers and directors apologize as well??? they very well created this moron to commit these actions as well.
Fuck you, Sarah Palin! Just take some responsibility of what happened, instead of putting all the blame on loughner. Or at least say you're sorry if you might have influenced the event
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@emerson24 Please cite your source. A independent double blind study that has been published in no less then six recognized papers. Your claim is dubious at best and most likely based on your own desires and not fact. Pray is no more useful the any other O.C.D. or delusional behavior.
Richardisdorky 1 month ago
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Richardisdorky 1 month ago
Guns are used more often by citizens to stop crime than start crime. What happened in Arizona was unfortunate, but for you people that think banning guns is a good idea because of this incident it will leave more people dead and vulnerable in the long run!
IMFDB 6 months ago
@IMFDB true
GNut1980 3 months ago
@IMFDB proove it
YourSkyliner 3 months ago
@YourSkyliner You obviously can't prove it with numbers, because not everybody that scares a criminal away with a gun reports it to the police, that'd be wasting their time.
IMFDB 3 months ago
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The Arizona shooter, Jared Loughner was a left-wing pothead. In order for a true mental illness to be diagnosed one must be clean for two years for brain chemistry to normalize enough for a proper diagnosis. The left is trying to blame it entirely on mental illness now that it has been established that he was a liberal. (see my About Me for link)
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At first the left not only blamed Palin & Beck for the shooting but campaigned to revoke Palin’s right to freedom of speech.
Gracelandification 1 year ago
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On 12 January 2011, the Mexican government unveiled a new database giving a total of 34,612 people killed over the past four years. This total included suspected drug gang members, members of the security forces as those considered innocent bystanders
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We're mourning the loss of six in Az shooting. Just imagine if that crap crossed the border.
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Allen West 2012
Gracelandification 1 year ago
Americans worship Sarah Palin almost like a saviour or god like person? LOL at Americans
derberg19486 1 year ago
@derberg19486 No Goddammit! Americans do not worship Palin. *Some* Americans do.
Don't buy into the media crap that she's incredibly popular. She is among certain ultra-Reich-wing loonies, but that's about it. The only reason she's still in the public eye is because of statements like these that get broadcasted around and Faux News.
GeneralBolas 1 year ago
uhhhh...WOW....Scarey
Markemark44 1 year ago
Captain Howdy...isn't that what the devil called himself in the early stages of possession of Linda Blair in "The Excorcist"?
Frugs22 1 year ago
Please please Sarah run for President............you daft daft bint.
19996669991 1 year ago
@19996669991 - Please PLEASE run Obama for a Second term attempt again ANY candidate of the Right. Including Sarah Palin !! P L E A S E !
AesopsRetreat 1 year ago
@InverStone60 For being a whiny offended liberal faggot you talk alot of shit..Well,listen her fag swoon boy were republicans we got balls..We dont retreat,we reload an hope a liberal pussy might be in the way hahah..You hate palin cause she points out your party hates anything thats white an works hard.Your just a white guilt ridden bleeding heart that wants my hard earned tax dollars to pay for illegal mexicans an lazy ass ghetto queens that smoke blunts an make babies all day......FALL BACK..
CaptainHowdeey 1 year ago
@CaptainHowdeey Dude...get help.
Frugs22 1 year ago
You are Liars. -period
This has nothing whatsoever to do with Sarah Palin.
How do you know if Bill Mahers rhtoric didn't set this lunatic off? Jared was more Leftist than anything else. He probably listened to Maher and Stewart. Blame them.
AesopsRetreat 1 year ago
@AesopsRetreat If he was leftist why did he shoot a democrat?
Frugs22 1 year ago
@Frugs22 - Maybe because she was a Blue dog democrat and voted in ways that pissed him off. You'll need to ask Jared that question. But one thing is certain; with his views on the Afghan war, welfare, GOD, and Religion he is 100 percent NOT Right of center.
AesopsRetreat 1 year ago
sarah palin has blood on her hands,she has caused the death of an innocent little girl.shame on you Sarah and the rest of the tea party
vernontrumpet2000 1 year ago
@InverStone600 I hate to point this out but you left out racist.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
@Richardisdorky Yea,i know im racist cause i dont want my tax money to pay for some ghetto queen whos smokes blunts all day an makes babies so she can collect a check.Or pay for people who lied on there mortgage application an i didnt..Or pay for illegal mexicans who wave there flag in my face then want free healthcare,welfare an education..An palin points that out.But were not liberal faggots..We wont retreat,we reload an hope some asshole like you gets in the way..
CaptainHowdeey 1 year ago
@CaptainHowdeey Yes because violence is always an answer. A selfish, unintelligent, and poorly thought out answer, but an answer non the less. Of course I'm really not all that worried about Palin and her supports. Main because they are in the minority, but more importantly because even if by some miracle she were to get elected to a public office again she would do the least amount of work possible. Then quit after two years. Mainly what I'm saying is she serves no real purpose.
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Richardisdorky 1 year ago
@Richardisdorky Im the kind of guy to turn the other cheek like my loving God has told me too.So ill pray for you an hope you lose that hate in your heart for those who think different from you..May God bless you sir..Even if you dont believe in him,he still loves you.
CaptainHowdeey 1 year ago
@CaptainHowdeey Whoa you tell me I hate. I'm not the one "reloading" I didn't use the term "liberal faggot". I didn't complain that because a few poor people may get a little help that they may or may not have earned. My only wish is for peace. There is nothing worth killing another person for. Yet you are the one who admits that your a racist and doesn't want people to be able to disagree. SO YOU ARE THE ONE WITH HATE, That's what being a racist is. Oh and there is no god even if you believe.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
@CaptainHowdeey This smacks of two face back pedaling to me. I hope you realize that this only make you look like a hypocrite. Not a huge surprise though.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
@Richardisdorky Im sorry you feel that way richard..I will pray for you in my nightly prayers.I always try an put myself in others shoes to see how id feel..If i took it personal everytime someone didnt agree with me or put me down id be one angry person..Thats why i just feel bad for sarah palin that people put the death of a 9 year old girl on her..But it was nice speaking w/you an you take care ..
CaptainHowdeey 1 year ago
@CaptainHowdeey Don't waist your time praying. Spend that time doing something good for someone else. Do that in my name. Praying does nothing but make you feel good about yourself. Try doing something good for a stranger without them asking you. Give money to the next homeless person you meet. Hell just tell a complete stranger you care whether or not they succeed and you want them to be happy.Do it because it's right not for god. I love you because your here and that's all the reason I need.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago 6
@CaptainHowdeey Oh and most of your taxes goes to kill brown people over oil. So you should be happy about that right. Racist like it when brown people die and then get to take their oil.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
@InverStone600 Wow you're a bigot. So much hatred for good people. Btw I'm a Christian and I dislike Palin as well.
4thcoming 1 year ago
Lefties still trying bank off the tragedy I see
HilarityBribo 1 year ago
@InverStone600 ... man you have summed it up beautifully. She is NOT a true Christian - she only pretends so that she can attract the Christian vote.
ThomasAUSTRALIA1 1 year ago
we all should be affraid as long as republican maniacs are that strong and i fear they always will be. germany had more nobel price winners then any other country and yet "we" voted for hitler
brotmann86 1 year ago
I will make my own target map and I will inclued someone's house in alaska. I really don't like that bitch from alaska
migasfiesta 1 year ago
maybe i worry too much what other people think, but it also helps on the job. if i see something that may not offend me but i will be aware of the possible offense or bad outcome of the audience who may see it. or if im given private information and there is no procedure on securing that specific info, i make something up in with persons best interest in mind to not let that information get stored all willy nilly. use your brians.
dralezero 1 year ago
@InverStone600 after the arizona shooting we apparently cant say anything offensive or violent anymore. that includes you. im still waiting for the gov't to ban "the catcher in the rye" for inspiring john lennon's assassion.
apollosage 1 year ago
@hfiosl Well all I'm saying is that "good" and "bad" words are all just subject to different circumstances. Like, what makes them bad? The fact that a majority believes them to be offensive? It doesn't really make sense that one constructed sound coming from our mouths hurts people's feelings more than another. Its honestly dumb.
Mayfinder 1 year ago
People with severe mental disabilities are EVERYWHERE. I live with one. I am scared to death of what my oldest child might do one day. He is a great kid, and I love him with every fiber of my being, but he has very scary moments. He has therapists, a psychiatrist, loving parents, and he is on medication, but...if people put violent images into his head and convince him that he is in jeopordy, he may freak out. PLEASE stop the apoplytic rhetoric...
Scroozin 1 year ago
@hfiosl Ok, well go to Britain and see how inappropriate the entire country is.
Mayfinder 1 year ago
@dougyoolikeme War and patriotism is completely different than wanting to die cause someone got shot by a nutter. Giving your life for the child that had no chance at life would be a better sacrifice than a later in life politician that has already lived and you didn't know until she got shot. Your comment there insults soldiers not supports them.
sgtsysop 1 year ago
Fuck you netflix
ShatteredGrace15 1 year ago
I'm not a psychologist, (I'm just a hillbilly from the mountains of West Virginia), but I figgure that the shooter was suffering from the undiferentiated type. It's reported that he was unsuccessful at school and withdrawn in social relationships. Further, he may have been prone to outbursts in public (classroom) of grandious or political nature. Politics may have been his outlet for his grandious delusions to take shape in reality.
If that's true - then you are cruel to blame the innocent.
fuzzywuzy 1 year ago
Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.
There's five types:
•Catatonic - withdrawn and flat unable to do things
•Disorganized - thoughts jump to unrelated subjects
•Paranoid - anger, arguementive, anxious, delusions of grandeur
•Residual - symptoms of one type fade
•Undifferentiated - more than one symptom
fuzzywuzy 1 year ago
And here I thought that a conspiracy minded, paranoid sociopath did the shooting. Is anyone not given credit for independant action these days?
First it was "Blame the Tea Party!!!" and then it was found that Lohner was a social Democrat.
On NPR I heard a doctor claim that marijuanna abuse was a contributing factor to his paranoid schitzophrenia - justifying the costly and ineffective "War on Drugs."
I think is is better to attribute this act to the gunman - but that would make sense.
fuzzywuzy 1 year ago
In this video you took the words right out of my mouth. When Palin' spoke re. democracy her words were truly inspiring & I couldn't agree with her more...but her lack of apology or ANY expression of personal responsibility, accountability or remorse for her actions AFTER GIFFORD'S VERY CLEAR VIDEO statement in reference to Palin's threatening ad her behavior is absolutely appalling, horrible and unacceptable." Although she said words expressing sorrow to those harmed Palin looked mad not sad.
thrivingsalmon 1 year ago
The Left's accusations against the Right have been debunked. They have lowered themselves to the point of no return. The American people are seeing thru the Left and are figuring out how they operate. What they tried to do, to pin the shootings on conservatives, has probably caused the death of progressive agenda for a long time now. Even the President has distanced himself from the baseless accusations of the Left which is a big sign that the progressive agenda is falling apart.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
Some of the shooter's online postings show that he thought that Bush was behind the 911 attacks. Perhaps his violent disillusion with public officials began with this. So blame Michael Moore + his ilk
keefmeister77 1 year ago
@keefmeister77 michael moore never thought Bush caused 911
He just thought he nver listened to the warning signs, which was true
TheFunkyDomination 1 year ago
Wow she said that? I bet she brushed her shoulders off like "Meh no one is stupid enough to actually listen to Sarah Palin and shoot me. It can't happen to me" i think i would think the same way.
yankee82090 1 year ago
Wow, the loons are still trying to crucify the right and palin over this huh? It's sadder since it's already become clear this wasn't a political shooting. A madman shot at everyone. Grow up kiddies.
HilarityBribo 1 year ago
@HilarityBribo Even if the guy is a madman, you think the response of someone who put a target over someone else's face would be a little more sympathetic.
Pokarot 1 year ago 32
@Pokarot If I were being attacked the same way the leftist snakes are attacking I probably would have responded with a middle finger. Let's face it though, no matter what Palin says or does you're going to hate it. You're blinded by hate.
HilarityBribo 1 year ago
@HilarityBribo I don't know if I'd use the word hate, but I definitely dislike Palin. She's backwards as hell, goes out of her way to get offended by jokes (Letterman / Family guy), and seems as smart as my three week old leftovers. Just because I don't like her doesn't mean I instantly hate everything she does (Her going on SNL with Tina Fey, yup that's about it...). I guess that's the difference between us, I care about what actions they take, you care about their political party.
Pokarot 1 year ago
opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
ismokedaily420 1 year ago
@hfiosl Honestly no it isn't. Not in these circumstances. You really want her to have any sort of power in this country? She is a half retarded house wife that has very little power but some how motivates a bunch of people to follow her. She is just dumb. I think that politicians like her are the ones who need to be shot. Why do the good ones like JFK, Lincoln, fucking Martin Luther King(although not a politician) get killed while the ass holes live?
Mayfinder 1 year ago
Sad..she seems so nice.
Moneymyke357 1 year ago 10
America 2010 = Germany 1938.. we're fucked.
einsteinslies 1 year ago
Kill Palin
einsteinslies 1 year ago
Sarah Palin should be ashamed of herself.
Inciting violence and then throwing salt on the wound she helped inflict. Sarah Palin is a disgusting person. I'm sorry I have to share the same species and gender as her. She is not a representative of humanity nor is she a representative of femininity.
WellIAMScottish 1 year ago
Sarah Palin = Piece of garbage
chrism20 1 year ago 2
It is obvious that the teaparty -panhandler and their cohorts radio announcers are guilty of this horrendous crime of monstruosity! But fortunately America is a evolutionary moving society that with time and evolution will educate and eradicate irrational and monstrous behaviour such as these tea party panhandlers or extremists!
52michail 1 year ago
So If I make a claim such as:
Sarah Palin and the tea party are a cancer growing with in the US and like any cancer it must me eradicated! and once eradicated America can start to heal"
Logically If someone goes on a TP Killing spree, I can go on making this statement without regret or responsibility.
Right?
I can later claim that I meant via nonviolent political action or some blame the right for existing
SuperPyst 1 year ago
Anyone who is able to kill another human being without remorse is a psychopath... doesn't matter what his political views were. can't blame anyone for that, not even sarah palin
jnoelpb87 1 year ago
@InverStone600 sounds like you are quite a bigot yourself...
apollosage 1 year ago
If Cenk is simply chastising people for what he considers irresponsible rhetoric, I have no problem with that. If he thinks that legislation would provide an answer, I disagree utterly and completely.
yermomsboxx 1 year ago
Gifford called her shot like Babe Ruth did.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago 3
@Shadowlit001 That is the darkest, most perfect thing anyone could have said to describe it.
Darkside626 1 year ago
Netflix killed Gabby? whaaa
TheNightboy1 1 year ago
Something weird that is barely mentioned: Giffords was subscribed to Loughner. She only had two subscriptions.
hitherandyon 1 year ago
Everyone does realize the democrats had a cross hair map too right?
So because no one acted on theirs... it's cool for them to have it... I gotcha. I guess someone but the assailant always has to be the blame in America. But I'm not sure what's worse, the fact this travesty's been politicized, or the fact they whored out to Netflix right after they finished talking about something like this.
God bless America.
Berserker07 1 year ago
@Berserker07 The only evidence I have seen of this is a map of 'bull-eyes' made in 2004. While I admit this is similar it is also different in some VERY crucial aspects.
If I am wrong please reference me to the information you have, that I have not seen.
ASparrow1 1 year ago
@ASparrow1 No your correct. Please explain to me why marking people with a bulls-eye is alright, but marking them with a cross hair is wrong.
Berserker07 1 year ago
@Berserker07 Cross-hairs imply you are looking through the sights of a gun. You point them at what you want killed.
I agree that a bulls-eye target is not much better, but it is different.
ASparrow1 1 year ago
@ASparrow1 It's hardly different. A bulls-eye marks were you shoot just as much as a cross hair and btw, it's not just guns, cross hairs are used on scopes of all kinds in general, it's used as a graphing and measurement tool at long range, that's all
But just saying "they're different" doesn't make them different different. I go to the gun range and shoot bulls-eyes through my cross-hairs. Just admit, the democrats aren't innocent, they got lucky and don't have a right to bash Palin for this
Berserker07 1 year ago
@Berserker07 You are right. My response did not do justice to either of our positions. I was rushed and I apologise.
I see your point that cross hairs can be used that in other instruments such as theodolites, I had not considered this. However i maintain there is a fundamental difference in the alluded messages. The symbolic cross-hair used were an obvious reference to the idiom 'in the cross hair' which is undeniable a reference to the sight of a gun.
ASparrow1 1 year ago
@Berserker07 A bulls eye symbol is a target. Again I agree with you that this can be associated with with guns and violence, however again I have to address the idiomatic reference. The bulls eye as a symbol represent a area to focus to achieve a desired result. Cross-hair is a area of focus to destroy.
I grant you the difference is subtle. Perhaps it is clearer to me as I live outside the US, where guns are very rare. To me cross hairs means guns, the same is not true for bulls-eyes
ASparrow1 1 year ago
Before guns people used swords, before swords people used sticks
dougluvn 1 year ago
@dougluvn yeah, and sticks are just as easy to kill someone with as it is with a gun.
mustangrun173 1 year ago
@dougluvn yea but can you shoot a stick or sword at the speed of sound...yea i didn't think so it's a little harder to conceal a sword...
Dominacao1686 1 year ago
@Dominacao1686
You can stab someone pretty easily with a knife or poison them. The physical effort required in killing someone is insignificant. There are better psychological and sociological reasons that prevent the sane from murder in ways no amount of physical controls could match.
thegillotine09 1 year ago
Sarah Palin is a f***ing moron but people are talking about Bill Clinton for what reason again? Because he was a good president? if you mean good as in didn't really do anything but let the country take care of it self and not stand in the way... you are right. If you mean good as in did something... I have a hard time finding what good he actually did.
atmdusty 1 year ago
Loughner is a Liberal. Democrats support Loughner. Nazis were left wing. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
apathist04 1 year ago
@apathist04
Nazism is a far right ideology. Sorry to break it to you.
0ptikz 1 year ago
@0ptikz You missed the point of the satire of the post, sorry to break it to you.
apathist04 1 year ago
@apathist04
You just nailed me. Sorry to break it to you :P
0ptikz 1 year ago
@0ptikz no prob homie.
apathist04 1 year ago
@so4eyo Bill Clinton actually contributed to society. He was a bad husband but a good man. Unlike some Alaskan ( Insert douchbag remark like some asshole).
ThisGuysRetarded 1 year ago 2
@so4eyo But he was raised a Catholic and his book wasn't placed on the Index of Prohibited Books.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@so4eyo you're welcome babe ;)
Pir4te47 1 year ago
@so4eyo Did I ever say Palin was responsible and where did I mention Christianity? No where. Nice red herrings, try not to float off topic but while we're on the topic, why wasn't he excommunicated for his actions?
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@so4eyo "operative word is Nazi Christianity" that's two words genius.
Pir4te47 1 year ago
Wow
tofubandito 1 year ago
@so4eyo Blame gangsta rap too.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@so4eyo ********Classic projection guys. A conservative accusing someone of lying xD seems you've got a future at Fox News**********
Pir4te47 1 year ago
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Sarah Palin should be put into prison!
hongyewu 1 year ago 4
@so4eyo He read some of Ayn Rand, Plato, Aldous Huxley, and believed the NASA space flights were fake and a bunch of other conspiracy theories. I guess YouTube influenced him, if one followed your logic, yes. Fact is, he was all over the place.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@so4eyo And that means what? Nothing but I guess you don't know Mein Kampf has multiple mentions of God and praising him. I doubt you know much of any thing. He also had some conservative books the right wing are ignoring. I take it you aren't the sharpest knife in the kitchen giving how you ignore that one of the victims was "targeted" by Palin. That's what people are talking about. Anti war? What rational person isn't anti war?
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
If Sarah Palin was in any way decent, she would back down from any political position she has (I don't know or care what it is) and admit she was partially responsible for the terrible outcome her actions sparked.
ThisGuysRetarded 1 year ago
All I could think about this entire video was Netflix.
4petelol 1 year ago
Anyone who believes that shooting politician has nothing to do with politics is almost as crazy as the shooter.
CHAOSoriginal 1 year ago 14
Sarah Palin is allowed to do whatever she wants. If a gegular person did the same thing(place cross-hairs on U.S. representatives), the consequences would be far worse. And if that perrson were Arab, he would be sitting in a cell near the coast of Cuba. But Sarah Palin gets away with it because of how popular she is.
CHAOSoriginal 1 year ago 32
@CHAOSoriginal I agree with you... I
SRAANG01 1 year ago
of course Sarah Palin has no remorse, she loves the murder of freedom, that's why she's a Republican loud-mouth. She's not any kind of real Tea Party person at all - all the real Tea party people are anti-republican and anti-democrat, grass-roots. She's the opposite. Her & Glen Beck claiming ownership over the Tea party is clearly a shut-down of real change. The kind of change they want is what any republican and a number of democrats would say is "anti-american"
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
Nobody is responsible for this except the loon who shot the woman. The more the left keeps going on this the more they make themselves look retarded.
upperhillsdale 1 year ago
@so4eyo She isn't responsible but she could have indirectly influenced him. It's odd one of the victims happen to be on Palin's list. You have to be retarded to not acknowledge that, also dishonest.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
i thought lee doren shut this site down by exposing cenk as a liar. Seriously, this is worse than a tabloid.
so4eyo 1 year ago
@so4eyo unfortunately this site have had even more success now
and the host is on msnbc, getting all kind of viewers.
oh btw. where is Lee Doren now and his how the world works show lol
izaccy 1 year ago
Remorse and the right-wing? Bwahaha!
This is what I saw righties do after the shooting
1) Try to convince people Loughner was a liberal.
2) Whine about how this might affect their gunrights.
3) Whine about how they SHOULD be allowed to use violent rethoric in spite of this.
4) Try to pretend it has nothing to do with politics.
That's all I've seen the righties do. And that's all I'd EXPECT of them. They don't care about this at all beyond how it might affect their little plans.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago 101
@Shavarnarak Who needs convincing? His friends and college classmates said he is.. Have you even did your research before you typed that?
XxUrSoLoStxX 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak They're the ones who made it political. People just pointed out that a politician got shot and happened to be one of Palin's targets. From what it looks like, conservatives are too stupid to understand the concept of influence. They think people are saying Palin directly had something to do with it when people are talking about how the right wing could have indirectly influenced him. They just don't get it.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
@ #3 Interesting to see someone on the left raging against the first amendment. As the Republicans pretend to move more towards libertarianism it seems Democrats are moving more towards totalitarianism as a response (and I use that word in a loose sense).
And the rest of us sit back and watch the dance of the clowns.
thegillotine09 1 year ago
@thegillotine09 First, how do you figure. Second-I don't see you disputing what he said. Can't one of you conservatives (or whatever) just "man up" and admit the this crap was wrong and that psychos can listen to it and take it to heart? Just one of you? Just once?
corbinmichael123 1 year ago
@corbinmichael123
First - because I've seen calls for legislation restricting "hate speech" from liberals. I think that blame falls primarily on his parents who ignored his dangerous behavior prior to the shooting and possibly on his psychiatrist. I don't think we should live our lives in fear of provoking the insane and unpredictable elements of our society. I would say the same to someone demanding that Catcher in the Rye be banned because it was cited as an excuse to murder.
thegillotine09 1 year ago
@thegillotine09 There is a HUGE difference between subject murder in a work, and inciting. If you can't tell the difference, there's no point continuing discourse. And I (and I think MOST liberals) aren't suggesting that Palin & her ilk CAUSED tragedies, merely that they influenced mentally challenged individuals into violent behavior. Aren't the conservatives the ones always trying to restrict t.v. and the "Marilyn Mansons" of the world because they influence violence. Now, all of a sudden,
corbinmichael123 1 year ago
@thegillotine09 it's okay. No one is looking to restrict free speech (it's the Liberals that try to thwart the conservative efforts to restrict artists, t.v., internet, etc.). What people are saying, is that insighting violence, purposely, is wrong (especially from our "civil servants") and those who do, should be held accountable. As a conservative, your party has always gone after the Marilyn's yet you won't even entertain the IDEA that maybe-yeah, your party was a little irresponsible. As
corbinmichael123 1 year ago
@thegillotine09 for hate speech legislation, you are aware the hate groups are already restricted from trying to incite violence. It's pretty subjective (therefore difficult to legislate), but hate speech that deliberately calls for violence, directly is dangerous. Especially when you consider the low education and mental instability of so many people out there. Particularly, those that your party attracts (no disrespect meant-these are statistics the even the Republican party agrees with).
corbinmichael123 1 year ago
@corbinmichael123
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of both sides :P
I'm technically a registered Democrat and voted for Obama (no chance in hell of putting Palin anywhere near power) but I have no party.
Directly inciting violence is of course reprehensible - but I refuse to let the insane or instable elements of the world dictate my actions. That line of thinking is the same as the person who blames the victim of rape for "encouraging" the attacker by wearing revealing clothes.
thegillotine09 1 year ago
@thegillotine09 I too, am an independent and supported Obama (THAT won't be happening again [though I will NEVER vote Republican, unless he/she's REALLY something special]). I agree with you-can't let the minority, unstable element dictate to you or society in general, but their is (or at least, should be) a line, where we say enough. That is too much-and at least try to recognize the possible danger. Not dictation, just recognition that their IS a potential danger. Personal responsibility.
corbinmichael123 1 year ago
@corbinmichael123
And FYI I'm a registered Democrat :P Pretty moderate but sliding towards libertarian because it seems to be the only logically consistent political ideology out there.
thegillotine09 1 year ago
@thegillotine09 My bad, I just got this Email. Lets change Republican party for conservative views. Sorry about that.
corbinmichael123 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak I agree with you on that, but.
This is what Demorats did after the shooting
1) Try to convince people Loughner was a conservative.
2) Talk about taking gun rights away.
3) Sweep the whole 'violent rethoric' thing under the rug.
4) Try to pretend it has nothing to do with politics.
I just think both side are kinda messed up. I agree that the right-wingers are worse, but still...
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
palin has blood in her hands
Lifeplay 1 year ago
"six people who were killed" What would you like him to do, mourn them? I don't know if he did; these are just segments.
"two government officials that were found dead" Again, just segments and it's not clear who's responsible.
Repeating myself was necessary because I wasn't sure you were literate.
MonsieurJackAss 1 year ago
she did have that thought, why else would she have scrubbed her site of all reference to it BEFORE the shooter was named.
But like a criminal and a con artist, her first instinct wasn't to confront the tragedy, but destroy the evidence and lash out at anyone near by.
vektork 1 year ago 6
The only lesson I've learned during this whole ordeal is to avoid big crowds in red states.
darklinkx8 1 year ago
...the whole time she was saying she wasnt afraid i was picturing a hole in the right sideof her forehead...fuckin chilling..
peasinacan 1 year ago
When did this lunatic assassin indicate he was a "tea party" supporter? I'm still waiting for one shred of evidence this guy was inspired by the right wing. The election is over, you can quit the political trolling already.
alvincay100 1 year ago
@alvincay100 look at his facebook.
ThatBlackPanda 1 year ago
@ThatBlackPanda Look at the claims of validity. Don't have confirmation bias.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
I am done with this story, I am not American so I will treat it as American's treat bigger tragedies in the world... laugh and say it's not my problem. Also that you deserved it.
ThatBlackPanda 1 year ago
@ThatBlackPanda His facebook page hasn't existed for a while. However, sounds like you've been duped by one of the many hoax facebook pages that were created by left wing nuts.
alvincay100 1 year ago
Hopefully this is an isolated incident, and in all liklihood it is thankfully. But even if there is a remote chance that another lunatic is waiting in the wings makes Palin's lack of denouncement that much more irresponsible. I pray this is the end of the violence, I fear that it is not.
Seabound117 1 year ago
Now that Palin has used the offensive term "blood libel," a few months from now she'll play the victim once again (after her brain trust speechwriters have had some time to work on it) where she'll blame everyone else for her use the term and claim it's OUR fault for being offended.
The word apology doesn't exist in her vocabulary, it's too big for her to understand.
eatmorenachos 1 year ago
@eatmorenachos I'm sure you knew that blood libel is phrase used by Christians against Jews in ancient times.
Da55Moose 1 year ago
@Da55Moose ,
well yeah, that's why it's offensive.
eatmorenachos 1 year ago
@eatmorenachos I know you didn't know that until after the media said it was offensive. It is such an obscure phrase; Palin is a moron but I'm starting to believe that the left is desperate to take her down as they parse everything she says trying to find anything they can to attack her.
Da55Moose 1 year ago
@Da55Moose ,
I didn't know its meaning---but my Jewish friends certainly did. Someone probably wrote the speech for her cause it's got big words in it, but how could she possibly see those words and not ask what they mean? She MUST have heard of Google by now.
She's being criticized for using violence-tinged language and gun imagery----and her approach is to use even more graphic language while playing the victim?
Ignorance and narcissism do not a presidential candidate make.
eatmorenachos 1 year ago
@eatmorenachos I'm sure you knew that blood libel is phrase used by Christians against Jews in ancient times.
Da55Moose 1 year ago
Yeah after reading the bio of this kid I bet he was looking at Sarah Palin's web page to find who to assassinate.Morons. You seriously think an atheist kid who is boderline anarchist was incited by FoxNews. Use your heads dumb fucks. Sarah Palin is still stupid, but she didn't cause people to be killed by putting crosshairs on their area.
Da55Moose 1 year ago
@Da55Moose The point? Over your empty head, kid.
robfathah 1 year ago
It's not Sarah's fault for what happened, this would have happened anyway'. This guy had it in his mind well before she said anything.
ralphedds1 1 year ago 3
Don't blame Sarah for causing violence. She's too stupid to ever realize she's doing anything wrong.
And181377 1 year ago 2
we're all guilty.
XxUrSoLoStxX 1 year ago
why is sarah palin still her (job).. she is to stupid
Jaysoto25 1 year ago
@Motionedout Yes, everyone already realizes who the killer is, so re-stating over and over would just be redundant. The issue here is to shed some light on those who have played at least some part in the events that lead up to the shooting. And again, NO ONE is Blaming anyone, we just want people to take responsibility for what they say.
TheSuperRider 1 year ago
@TheSuperRider I agree with you that Palin needs to take responsibilty for what she says. Though I'd argue that if we really wanted to "shed some light on those who played some part in the shooting" (which to me is just another way of saying blame belongs to somebody else) we could ask who sold Loughner the gun, who saw him last, who didn't speak to him (or up about him) when he was in college, etc. In other words, if we take that route, we don't need to look far from home.
Motionedout 1 year ago
@Motionedout everyone is guilty of being a hypocrite.
XxUrSoLoStxX 1 year ago
To bad the media didn't blame it on LIL Wayne, or any rapper. So easy to make people dislike them.
MrAdamseye 1 year ago
These sponsors are really starting to bug me now.......
PLICK4444 1 year ago
The defenders of sarah palin are on full alert right now..never have I seen them swarming everywhere so much. Their plan: make the democrats seem as if they own the shooter REGARDLESS of the fact that the democrats were the victims in this situation.
cosmicforums 1 year ago
@cosmicforums isn't that what the left has done, and is doing right now?
XxUrSoLoStxX 1 year ago
This is chilling. But Loughner chose to do this, it's his fault and only his fault.
I know this opinion isn't popular. What Fox News and Palin do is horribly irresponsible and wrong (and should stop)------- but we have get our priorities straight. We have to call out the people who are actually perpetrating the violence.
Motionedout 1 year ago
@Motionedout You can call out all the troops you want, but that's just a band-aid. You must remove the source of any problem to solve it.
MrAdamseye 1 year ago
@MrAdamseye I don't know, I just think more people are smarter than Fox News or Sarah Palin than we'd like to think sometimes. Cenk himself changed from conservative to liberal, even with Fox News and Rush Limbaugh blaring away. There's always going to be violent imagery in our media, whether it's serious journalism covering a war, or a emotional demagoguery like Fox. In this case--as much as I hate what Fox News does, again, yes, they need to cut it out--they really aren't at fault here.
Motionedout 1 year ago
@Motionedout I would agree, but I know Bill has ridiculed Ludacris for his lyrics. Saying his words have an impact, and rightfully so admitting Palin's words could do the same. I can not forgive a hypocrite.
MrAdamseye 1 year ago
@MrAdamseye Yeah, using Bill's own warped logic against him does have a certain appeal to it...though Cenk didn't bring that up (which he should have), thatt's a good point.
Motionedout 1 year ago
@Motionedout TY!
MrAdamseye 1 year ago
It's so ironic that Sarah's trying to say it's not political, but seems to be steering this toward sympathy for herself and the Republican party.
To hell with politics, and to hell with your party. You did something wrong, own up to it. These are seriously the people we "choose" to represent us??
kadsl123 1 year ago 2
megagagnon1, I'm not condoning any violence by Palin has clearly (but passively) declared war on the opposition and it's no surprise why some might think the world's better off without her. The right is so full of shit. Most claim they're under the "moral" authority of god but when it comes down to it, they remember how vengeful their is.
clipsryan 1 year ago
sarah palin is a cunt.
Mayfinder 1 year ago 152
very eerie
tookthenight 1 year ago
The Tea party is so concerned about losing their country, yet they don't realize America was never run by a bunch of people so stupid and gullible, that they would follow a moron like Palin. Idiocracy was just a movie, not a country that you lost to smarter people.
Sonofspam64 1 year ago
I don't think I've ever seen a politician take responsibility for creating a monster.
Relyt22 1 year ago
he loved gifford and was a liberal... he was just a crack head... bottom line.
with all the violent music, video games and movies... how dare you blame one woman sarah palin?... so should music artists, video game makers and directors apologize as well??? they very well created this moron to commit these actions as well.
break the left right bullshit tyt
its gettin old.
tntbadman 1 year ago