Debunking Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theories Part 1: HAARP

[whiskeredtuna]

Why meet in an out of the way tavern...if your willing to go in front of a camera. jesse this sort of crap does not work.

[oatstao]

wow.. .HUGE disinfo video. Never heard that theory @3:40. And even droppping in WMD in there. What a fucking curve ball. Never watched Ventura's show..if I wanted wrestling..I'd watch MrT vs. Hulk Hogan theatre.

[oatstao]

Haarp is not a joke, But Ventura sure is. He just takes HAARp out of context, as do many others. Those that don't believe at all, will understand soon. They will undesttand the science and application of haarp. It's public info now and it's all about wireless data transmission. (and weather control..proof positive) . Start digging a bit deper folks. Don't be afraid.

[edmfw]

Was this Ventura Bozo once a governor of some dumb state? Sad, really sad ...

[rkdukies1]

constantly repeating "No you can't do that" isn't debunking. You debunked yourself, there is plenty of documentation out there, but since you can't get past your own denial to actually do any research whatsoever. You will wake up one day, hope for you it isn't too late. Question authority, you might be surprised at what you might actually discover.

[MandalaOfThe7]

I am not Stupid and I know that 911 and a few other similar topics do not add up correctly but this recent obsession with HAARP weather manipulation is about as dumb as it gets. Actually no; It Gets even more retarded then HAARP conspiracies but, I digress. Thank you for the upload.

[TheAlexJonesCult]

Everyone on this show is a wackjob even the unverified people who back him up. he talks to contractors who work for company's who are not allowed to give out any information because they can be fired.. so he takes that as there trying to cover up this big conspiracy.... My grandpa works for a federal company and he is not authorized to give out any information even if a bunch of cooks approach him it could cost him his job.

[BillKiernan]

"when i get denied something, i get angry" it's a fucking airforce facility, not the fucking hershey factory. you can't just politely ask to go in and look around unless you have clearance. all sides have their propaganda.

[cHronilogy]

lmao you call this debunking? uneducated, narrowminded and just complete failure of facts. no evidence that radiowaves/frequecy's have an impact on mind and emotion? really? Maybe a 5th grader would buy that. educate yourself.

[PhantasyPublishing]

so he has an author trying to sell a book as a source of this hyped up claim. No wonder they would not let him in.

[Mandama004]

"The HAARP patent papers also stated that the invention could 'simulate and perform the same function as performed by the detonation of a heavy type nuclear device'." - this is a quote from an official UN document. It can be read on their site, here;

un(dot)org/News/Press/docs/200­7/gacol3160(dot)doc(dot)htm

[Mandama004]

Also, my friend, you should know that Wikipedia and Ehow are not credible sites regarding this. The UCLA one was a great, credible source... however, I have seen users on Youtube accurately predict earthquakes and severe weather. More than once.

[Mandama004]

I think it's a huge downfall of our society to believe that anyone who questions our government is crazy or schizophrenic. Seems they have a pretty good hold on most people.

[FreeUSAmericans]

not trying to hate-however this is without question the worst attempt i've seen at debunking- I can also read what the HAARP officials put out- Do you ALL honestly believe you are told everything that goes on within government? WAKE UP PEOPLE

[salvadory]

@FreeUSAmericans because the govt lies which it does doesnt mean haarp is an earthquake machine- theres no proof of it causing weather manipulation and quakes which despite what you believe have and will always occur- and did occur well before haarp was even an idea in someones head- its clearly linked to communication and for military purposes- because we have tornado outbreaks which happen every few decades doesnt mean it was haarp

[FreeUSAmericans]

@salvadory 1st of all u don't know what I believe u are making an assumption at what I believe 2nd where in my comment did I STATE "its ALL caused by HAARP" 3rd Contrary to your statement there is proof that weather CAN BE modified by something such as HAARP 4th EVERYTHING vibrates 5th FREQUENCIES are vibrations 6th HAARP uses FREQUENCIES 7th I'm not on YOUTUBE to get into internet debates on what you or I or anyone else believes 8th ALWAYS keep an open mind and QUESTION everything

[salvadory]

@FreeUSAmericans weather can be modified but not to cause storms- thats the loophole in your basic fact- its not strong enough and haarp doesnt even effect areas where storms are formed or could be effected even if haarp was strong enough- the ionsphere is not where weather and storms form- they form much lower and every weather outbreak this year and every other year was predicted by the storm prediction center- sorry if i dragged you into a debate- ps im openminded have studied haarp alot

[bambino492]

dude... you are awesome... and your sarcasm torwards all this bullshit has me laughing hysterically... i am now a subscriber...

[ZhugeNaut]

The looks she has on her face at 16:34 is the same expression ive had on my face this whole time. I'm outraged at the level of bullshit they try to pass for truth on television and in the conspiracy movement.

[brianneburnell1]

SECOND VIDEO PLZ



[Butchurus]

this place is not heavily guarded at all, a pair of wire cutters could break you into america's big top secret earthquake weapon. this conspiracy theory is a joke, but people still actually believe in that reptillian stuff so why not starwars.. good job on the vid.

[dalek14mc]

@Butchurus-Not to mention, HAARP posts their own agenda on the internet. Yeah, this big, evil, secretive organization tells you everything that they're doing.

[TheMercilessEye]

@ReignbowSmite Aye. A common flaw in thinking amongst people of 'that sort' is that if you open the door to ONE possibility, the whole SPECTRUM of possibility must similarly be considered to be 'probable.' Alex Jones is a classic example of this - he gets a handle on Part C, and therefore believes that D, E, F and G must also be equally plausible. Inductive reasoning at its worst...and definitely sloppy science...

[TheMercilessEye]

@RantyChris @ReignbowSmite -

I've taken the liberty of forwarding you both some links to extended research on the topic of the effects of EMF on biological organisms, should you care to examine them...

( O )

[RantyChris]

@TheMercilessEye Thank you.

Note that I'm not deliberately ignorning any comments. As a student I am fairly busy with other obligations. I will try to address comments as I can, anyone who wants can send messages to my inbox where it will be easier for me to track them.

[TheMercilessEye]

One final note: for those who still think that radio waves aren't capable of causing harm to living creatures... Remember 'masers'?

Check THIS out:

watch?v=J1w4g2vr7B4

The latest in U.S. Gov't. 'crowd control' - the 'heat ray' or 'remote pain field generator' - based on microwave technology (yes, the same frequencies that cook your frozen TV dinners, folks...now available for clearing out those NASTY protestors...)

[TheMercilessEye]

I'm far from thinking that Mr. Ventura is any sort of authority on such things - he's merely using his name-recognition to try to further his agenda - but a complete 'baby/bathwater' scenario of tossing out any argument regarding possible deleterious side effects from the Haarp research seems, to me, about as silly as claiming it can cause earthquakes...

[TheMercilessEye]

Of course, it's also been speculated that cell phone relay transmissions may be responsible for messing up some or all of these migratory animals, or causing the colony collapse disorder in the honeybee population. Again, entirely possible, depending upon what frequencies of electromagnetic RF affect which animals. I think a plat would be needed, showing comparisons between RF sources and sites of these animal mishaps, to be able to make that determination.

[TheMercilessEye]

These animals, however...notably migratory birds...depend on a very high sensitivity to perturbations in the earth's magnetic field. With that degree of sensitivity, it's easy to imagine what might well happen if a flock of them were to be caught in mid-flight by a downward atmospheric 'skip' of a Haarp signal: the effect could easily be devastating...and I believe there have been some recent casulties among these animal populations...

[TheMercilessEye]

One must keep in mind that the effect of electromagnetic interference is subject to the law of inverse squares: that is, you double the distance from the electromagnetic source, and you decrease the effectiveness of the electromagnetic exposure by a factor of four - however, Haarp is using radio 'skip' off the ionosphere, and this can lead to concentrations of electromagnetic 'splash' effect as the waves return to the ground from an upper atmosphereic 'skip'...

[TheMercilessEye]

Now, I DO draw the line at HAARP being capable of affecting plate tectonics: to me, that idea is rather laughable. However, I think it is well within the realm of possibility that Haarp may well be the source responsible for such things as the deaths of migratory flocks of birds, shoals of fish or pods of whales committing 'suicide', and possibly even the 'colony collapse disorder' observed in honeybees. It is hypothesized that all these life forms depend on electromagnetism for navigation...

[salvadory]

@TheMercilessEye sounds reasonable and possible - but weather and quakes is indeed the point where the haarpers cross from reasonable into flat out comedy

[TheMercilessEye]

@salvadory New evidence suggests that cellphones and cellular technology play a much larger role in this, as far as the bees are concerned. If you're interested, I have a PDF file of a paper done recently in Switzerland on just such a study.

[salvadory]

@TheMercilessEye already read the study online so thanks - but im glad your reasonable enough to see what haarp can do without believing the nwo is causing quakes and tornadoes- people do that- they assume if hypothetical A is possible then everything else is possible- which is junk science

[TheMercilessEye]

@salvadory Cool. Yeah, there's a real lack of scientific acumen in the world. I run into that with 9/11 'truthers' all the time: I argue metallurgy, convection heating, superstructure damage - and I get labeled as an 'NWO shill.' It really grinds one down, after a while...

[TheMercilessEye]

I'm sorry to have to debunk YOU (however partially) but the research is IN regarding electromagnetism affecting the brain. Viz:

watch?v=XJtNPqCj-iA

However new this research may be, there is no question but that the magnetic field is affecting this man's speech centers in his brain. Now, anyone with a common understanding of the work of James Faraday knows that radio waves are a part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Therefore: radio waves CAN effect brain functions.

[QuantumDarkness]

A billion watts; That's about the power in a single lightning strike.

[grendelee]

LOL im not even gonna wait for your response. Did that guy just ionize air....and claim thats what haarp can do? Then why use HAARP, when a GIANT FAN would work better? You can use a FAN on what, 10 watts?, that would move more air then your 100 watt ionized air machine. He basically just used a blow dryer to show you how haarp works. lol And he knows hes lying....

[grendelee]

Lol was that a joke? "Let me on this air base!" "ummm, no?" "CONSPIRACY!"

[CappitranoBellephant]

I'm going to watch this later for sure but I don't have time right now, but a 5th grader could debunk Jesse Ventura. And i'm not kidding I work with kids and I literally saw a 5th grader effectively debunk Jesse Ventura! He is such a yuts... You should have see the one on super soldiers, try and watch that episode and not laugh there's no way anyone could take it seriously. The way i see it we was a pro wrestler so drama, acting, and faking is his forte.

[RantyChris]

@CappitranoBellephant I'll get around to watching that episode for sure. Going to try to make it through the series.

I love this (from Wikipedia) "In a response to the criticism, Misty Skedgell, a Turner spokesperson, described Conspiracy Theory as an "entertainment program that appears on an entertainment network."

So the organization behind the show sees it as a joke as well.

[CappitranoBellephant]

@RantyChris LMAO that's so funny XD

[ZhugeNaut]

The look she has on her face at 16:34 is the same face ive had on this whole time. I am outraged at the level of bullshit they try to pass for truth on television and in the conspiracy movement.

[Mandama004]

@CappitranoBellephant do you think it's completely unreasonable to question our government? I mean, at least 33 conspiracies that were HUGE turned out to be real in the US... so based on our history, we see that stuff like this is plausible. Seems as though the government has done a great job in making you trust that they are always right. I'm from Minnesota and have met and spoken with Jesse. He is by no means a "yuts", in fact, he's highly educated. He just questions corruption. Shouldn't you?

[CappitranoBellephant]

@Mandama004 Of course I question corruption, and of course you should question our government because they do many things that are sneaky and unjust. I'm just saying this isn't one of them and just because someone questions government doesn't mean they are correct about every question they have. Especially when the hypothesis is so off the wall and off base, lacks evidence, and is so nonsensical. I think things like this divert attention from what the government is actually doing.

[Mandama004]

@CappitranoBellephant you should keep an open mind. I have a friend in the air force who recently admitted "chemtrails" to me. The most striking evidence that I have found that this could possibly be a weapon, is that at least 3 Youtube users are able to read strange radar signatures and predict severe weather up to 48 hours before it happens. If this is natural, why don't meterologists use the skill? This would be such an amazing way to warn people of tornadoes, floods, eartquakes, etc.

[jacobromu]

you need to add lots of tags - possibly make this a video response to a more popular haarp debunk

[RantyChris]

@jacobromu I'm not sure of any HAARP debunk videos out there/don't want to spam them. I did throw this out on StumbleUpon as well.

[jacobromu]

@RantyChris I just reviewed it for stumble too