Fire in an aircraft engine

[TheOneRaf]

For a second I thought the fire caught the student in his face!

[slackerz35]

Guys, its a simulated exercise. They can turn off and on the fire with fitted valve. Simple. :-)

[VIctuszaphae]

Braves

[xGot2PullThroughx]

just chillin with your face in the flames.

[platinumsalamander]

trick candles

[MrDanieldb]

All of a sudden everybody is an expert in putting out engine fires.

[cpfreak032]

he got done with the engine then he sprayed the ground then the fire came back lol

[mickichef]

looks like a kerosene fed aircraft mockup. Whoever said it is propane needs to take a good hard look at themselves.

[lithium803]

No, I think that's a genuine fire, but I think the engine is simulated. lol

[turbocanuk]

sketchy!!!

[allenwong2]

Lol it's an engine or something tied onto a fuel tank...

[williamstalker]

I work fire department. First off WHY BE SO FUCKING CLOSE TO THE FIRE.

Second why is he on the line alone.

Third this aint no fucking airplane crash

[Oneman1life2live]

Its a aircraft fire simulation. Most large airports have crude looking burned up makeshift aircraft like this one. Its completly accurate. If a jet engine is on fire with fuel control or line damage then it will continue to dump fuel despite efforts. But they still have to attempt to control it to rescue victims. And they're using water to conserve resources. Save the foam for the real emergencies...

[lonewolfintj]

Mislabeled: There is nothing whatsoever in this video even remotely resembling either an aircraft or an engine. Please relabel to "Fire Fighting Exercise". Thank you. Grade: D. (Slightly interesting video, but extremely misleading title.) Stars: 2.

[aminuk23]

lol, using water to turn that shit off! he should use foam, stupid firefighters nearly was going for a barbeque

[bvestationfan]

it looked like the fire was on the hose

[Officialfoofighters]

the Fire Fighters there are PATHETIC. The engine fire was on fire, nothing wrong with that. But the fire fighters used water to put it out! No Wonder the flames spreaded. The fire was part liquid part solid. So water would spread the flammable liquid. Should've used a foam spray.

[areskoare]

@Officialfoofighters

the exercise was designed towards learning to handle the nozzle, not to put out an actual fire. It's true that in a real situation we would have used the AFFF foam, but it gets kinda messy with 24 students using that much foam.

[F110mech]

@Officialfoofighters dude it was a mock a/c used for firefighter training

[yiquin2009]

@Officialfoofighters read the video note! He mentioned, in training excerise they use water because 24 other students were waiting their turn. Normally, in a real engine fire event, they'd use foam!

[MrJEspil]

@Officialfoofighters Oh I am glad to see your such an ARFF expert. So tell what is the cost differnce between using water for training and using 3% AFFF?

[afflictionforlife]

@Officialfoofighters

In addition. Liquids and solids do not burn.. All fires are gases that come from the fuel.

[Ten0fSwords]

@Officialfoofighters

Water is better than nothing.

[ofnarcr]

@Officialfoofighters spreaded?

[boaterbil]

@Officialfoofighters lol spreaded

[dolphfreak]

@Officialfoofighters lol in yo face.

[CrustyBumHol]

@Officialfoofighters i think they know more then u

[87earth]

@Officialfoofighters and @chipmunkguy666 lolz no way you idiotz, they're using real gasoline instead of waterzzz to take out ze fire, can't you zsees it ?

[kdvlder]

That's not a jet engine, and that's not a jet. It might be a simulation, but that is certainly no jet engine.

[gummel82]

@kdvlder wow, you're such a genius! read the description you fucking dumbass -.-

[kdvlder]

@gummel82

So I missed reading the description, whatever. It still looks like a poor simulation.

[gummel82]

@kdvlder well..that's true ^^

[helipro555]

at 0:31 his head was on fire

[helipro555]

the fire man was rapeing the engine with water

[sunsetreptiles]

you would use foam to put this fire out.

[boen747]

water ???? strange, wouldnt that spread the fire since there would be fuel in those enginges ??? or was it just useing weater pretending its some kind of foam since its only trainning ?

[Samurai1568]

I thought for any airplane related fire, they would use some kind of chemical foam to put out the fire instead of the water used in this video.

[troy12n]

i guess its a good thing that "engine" is not running as it would suck those guys right up in it

[Nitroboss2007]

?!?!?

[asdasdasdasdasdas98]

more like fire in a tube!

[livelyitis]

nice i went to a navy fire trainer with something similar to that, we used AFFF on it though

[andrew6606]

where is this taking place\?

[Bianka73]

Trainingcamp in Holland Woensdrecht. Was also there..Nice and hot with liquid gas. It feel's like a steak on a XXXXL BBQ grill.

[pf126p]

I'm surprised they used water on an engine fire. I don't know much about fires but I do know a bit about jet fuel. It floats on water, so it stands to reason it would reignite.

[snedie69er]

The water contains a special mixture that prevents hydro-carbons from vapourising, making them hard to combust. This is why there appears to be white foam on the ground at real air crashes. Admittedly this does look like water, and probably in a foreign country outside of the EU/US.

Also, don't confuse the foam I said with the full on foam they use if there isn't a fire.

[skywidedesign]

So - back to Halon...

Isn't is a heavy gas that can suffocate people by filling their lungs and displacing oxygen? (hence its effectiveness). So, what are the risks in responding to a plane fire, which has invisible halon around it? How to be safe?

[macnazri]

extinguish the fire below first then the engine,cause fuel are still dripping from the engine...

[stbilco]

In most cases you're not abel to put out a fire in a jet engine, from the outside. The best way to try putting out a jet engine fire is by using "light wather" (AFFF) im combination with powder.

[KtownPilot]

Pilatuspcsixdont be a dick as an american im tires of ass holes like you giveing us a bad name!!

[areskoare]

This is the training facility at Rygge airport in Norway. We are using water, but in a real situation we would be using AFFF foam.

[MatjakoSLO]

It is because you use lots of water, and if it would be foam it would polute the ground, correct?

[canadianboy40]

Foam is very expensive and it goes incredibly fast, especially when youre pumping at 3000= gallons a minute

[HorustheElder]

Are they using water? I thought you never used water on burning jet fuel.

[supremewhip]

Massive fail at putting out a fire.

[puchdiesel]

This is in the Airforce base woensdrecht in Holland

[chipmunkguy666]

using water to deal with a jet engine fire.

of course the fuckin yanks would be stupid enuf to do that

[KPX1138]

It's a fire trainer you fuckin dumbass! It uses propane not jet fuel so water IS what you need in this training exercise. I guess these "yanks" are smarter than you!

[SullyWild1]

Good come back. Nice 1.

[Floatsforlife]

Ok but how many planes do you know of that run on propane DUMBASS! Guess what Your still stupid! hahahahaha

[Floatsforlife]

just like a yank to get all up in your face eh? hahahah you could insult there mothers and not get a reply like that. but call them a yank stupid and its war! hahahahah Classic!

[areskoare]

The exercise is not that much about putting out a real aircraft engine fire, as that would have been done by the firetrucks. However, it's good for learning how to use the hose and nozzle properly, with this kind of intense fire. The guy in the movie is holding a hose for the fifth time in his life. Not bad!

[pezzza16]

to be fair to these "yanks" in training we dont usaly use foam either as its more impotant to have a full tank of foam for a real incident not training

[psp310]

There not american look at the turnout gear

[Pilatuspcsix]

First of all they are not Americans fighting this fire so get it straight.secondly you can call us anything you want but it was America and England that kicked your Nazi asses back to the stone age. A Great man once said (NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVE UP) we didn't and you payed the price,who's stupid now??

[chipmunkguy666]

"Nazi"? what the fuck are you talking about im australian

and i wouldnt go bragging about defeating the nazis. it took all of europe and america to do it

[Pilatuspcsix]

interesting...when I looked at your stats it read that you were from Germany??????wonder why you changed that???????you did bring up a good point though, it did take a lot of power to defeat the Nazi forces...

[SaGruenwdt]

to stoneage? ahh I see... therefore we are the number one in world economy today. cause of your stoneage work... lol

[Pilatuspcsix]

So America is still in the stone age huh? we built stone age war machines that took apart Germany. what does that say of you? I own a German made car. Germany engineering is undeniable. but in Fairness your country is suffering in this economy business too. America Technology is undeniable and you know that America has achieved many great accomplishments that has yet to be rivaled.

[beserksock]

ummm... the americans only stepped in at the end of the war, it was us brits and those nail hard russians(whom still look and sound like their recovering from stalingrad) who duked it out with the bosch.

[fakkahSWE]

Really wonder why firefighters at airports cannot use HALON. Its okay INSIDE an airplane, but why not outside it? Weird..

[stbilco]

Airplanes have halon systems. One system for every engine.

Airplane engine are the only place where they still have halon gas. We cannot longer use halon in firefighting, becouse halon gas is wery wery dangerouse.

[fakkahSWE]

Please, let me correct you.

It is still legal to have Halon inside the cabin of an airplane. Not only the engines are equipt with halon, also the firwextinguisher's inside the cabin does have Halon. This is also accepted in submarines.

[stbilco]

Yes thats tru; but if and when these are used, they will not be replaced with halon. That's the case in Norway.

[fakkahSWE]

Yeah?? Man thats stupid... :/

Aircrafts should have the best extinguisher avalible, weither its bad for the environment or not. :)

[NKS969]

Good one Elmer

[P0Psyckle]

lol its like whack-a-mole. u get it then it just comes back out!

[iSelltohunters06]

is this at ORD's training facility?

[Joeey]

you didn't put "simulated" in your title. dickhead.

[undertake782]

He put it in the description dickhead.

[Joeey]

It is pretty fundamental as titling, mon head of dick. Maybe it should be "fire training: aircraft engine"

The current title is still misleading, Penisaurus.

[levikulhan]

omg it's AFTERBURNER!!!!!

 lol joke xD!!

[Coiltec]

Why don't they shut down the engine and then extinguish the fire?

[undertake782]

Um... if an aircraft crashed, don't you think the people inside would be knocked out? What use is shutting down the engine if fuel is already leaking everywhere? Shutting down the engine doesn't help at all.

[AlexisBV]

Actually "shutting the engine down" makes a big difference, assuming the controls still work. Why? Hint: Fuel shutoff valve.

[TruckerGarth]

i thought they use foam for this type of fire as there fuel involved?

[pointsur]

he could have put the engine fire out sooner by adjusting the nozzle to form a "cone" over the intake. "penciling", as he did here, takes too long to cool and smother the fire. it is similar to putting a top on a skillet fire.

[liv4deth95]

lol the fire in engine keeps coming back:)

[CADETINATORT1000]

that guy is stupid

why not keep on poring water through the jet and have someone else put out the fire on the ground???

[undertake782]

Well this is simulated and I think he had to do it by himself.

[SirDodds]

they should of used co2 ud never put a real engine fire out without co2.

[doctorErotic]

DOsent foam work better?

[studionightbird7]

success. flames are out. nice work...though i wouldn't stand that close to a real plane engine

[drpeper25]

This is an ARFF (aircraft rescue firefighter) prop for training. This is NOT a airplane.

I train on a similar prop. this one is a bit whimpy, but does give them the idea. They are not using foam (AFFF) They just push the fire until the operator shuts off the fuel letting them put it out.

[hereosinerror]

they should of put the ground fire out first, thats wht kept relighting the fuel.

[kdmq]

that didnt look like an airplane engine

[weipeiwu2000]

this is why the description says that its a "simulation"

[pokekid123]

lol yeah

[areskoare]

The oxygen in the water isn't really a problem. The water takes the energy away from the flames and removes the heat.

Using water on hot metal can be a problem yes, but not every kind of metal becomes so hot. But we do not use water on burning aircraft brakes, as they can explode if cooled to rapidly. You can see on the color of the flame if its safe to use water on it. Google "color temperature" if you would like to know more.

[cyberst0rm]

thanks for this information

[rendrageed]

as for brakes.. they dont put water on magnesium brake fire because it makes the fire hotter

[WhiteMorphageus]

quite true tho is this case it's oil thats leaking from the engine; thats y the fire on the ground keeps re-setting the turbine on fire lol

[cyberst0rm]

I thought water was not intended to use with burning metal, as oxygen in water feeds the fire.

[hereosinerror]

oxegen in water (as in h2o) ???

[dumdum987654321]

The fire kept re-forming!

[kdmq]

LOL IT DID!

[GotIt123]

seems like a 30 lb. fast flow in PK would have been better(,then the line for cooling). Never got to try one on a jet engine but I have yet to not be able to extinguish a 3D fire with one.

[areskoare]

True. But this model was the only available on the course. And the idea was to see how the aircraft fuel would react in a situation like this. The combustion chamer could have been destroyed or unreachable if there was a crash.

[HUGEROASTBEEF]

spraying water into the intake is not going to do anything you have to cut into the side to acsess the combustion chamber.