@gunnery18 Get a quad core >3ghz. if you you plan on using crossfire or SLI you'll need a faster CPU though.. 4GB really isn't enough anymore.. 6gb is, but I'd go for at least 8gb.
Very few games are 64 bit, but you still need to consider the OS. Of games that are 64 bit, they will often use it.
@2x4 You know if Nvidia puts their project Denver on their graphics cards it would be quite easy to expand the PC gaming base and get more games.
You could run most or all of the game from the graphics card. There is talk of next gen consoles being ARM too. As simple as telling somebody to get a PC with a 600 watt power supply and a Nvidia card.
It's the complexity of needing to "learn things" that limits the number of PC gamers.
@abram730 ARM is aimed at powerconservative systems. You want high performance, like for games x86 is the way to go for the foreseeable future. I doubt adding a simple arm core to a videocard is going to make it run more than the simplest of things. Would be nice for a phone or tablet though.
An arch that I admire and think would be a better replacement for the hackjob called x86 would be PPC imho. I think they agree looking at certain new instructions, AVX in particular.
@JustineBieberxoxo 8 ARMv8 cores @ 3ghz is comparable to a 4 core sandy bridge cores @ 2.4ghz, if what I read was correct.. ARMv8 also uses just 2 watts per core at 3GHZ. X-Gene is looking to put 32 cores on a chip for servers.
Games don't really use much CPU power.. 20% CPU loads are quite common.
Project Denver is 8 64bit ARM cores and 256-512 CUDA cores(32 or 64 per core) as of last reports.
@abram730 You'll see my 4 core SB sweat from time to time. Equally impressive is X3 when you have a lot of factories and populated systems. The simulated economy can make your rig cruynch numbers. Sure, COD might max at 25%, but that is a console port.
@JustineBieberxoxo I actually use Total war games to save me money on heating in the winter lol.. sooo, yes they do use my system. I had empires on for over a month once.
Some games have problems with the hyper threading and can run better on an OC 9650. It's that most games max out one core, mostly issues with older games.
@JustineBieberxoxo I think the best possible performance IMO would come from an asymmetric chip.. The highest performance core you could get and then arrays of micro cores running in parallel with a core designed specifically to manage the micro core arrays and do some complex tasks they can't.
ARM simply has numbers and $ behind it right now. It also has a good perf per watt and Moor's law will soon make that hard to ignore.
@abram730 That was already kind of done with the CEll-cpu in the PS3. It's design is something I really admire, one single PPC with several vector cores that can do parallel workloads and generate graphics. Too bad developing for it was too difficult and they had to add a full vga card instead of just a rasterizer.
PPC scales from my router at a comfy 1,2Ghz(20 watt system draw) to the 4,7Ghz behemoths of IBM. The scaling is godly. Where ARM is more for the simpler powersaving
@JustineBieberxoxo A Cell like CPU is what I'm talking about. There is lots of support for CUDA and soon OpenACC. OpenACC is high level, using compiler directives. I think it's part of OpenMP. It doesn't have the programing difficulty of the Cell and does graphic native as they are graphics cores. Integrating at the instruction level would help.
performance per watt = performance. Many things are already at a power wall. You can't very well put a 200 watt CPU on a console. I'm not talking about the death of x86, just a shrinking market.
I think the future of CPU's will be in instruction sets that can scale up in parallel. 8, 16, 32, 64 operation blocks with larger, not so latency dependent jobs done by specialty chips like a GPU or on a server.
@abram730 devices, and x86 is more for performance, the PPC can and does both already. And the powersaving could use some work, but if you put the design on 22nm and use deep sleep power states for the idle cores it might just idle belows Intels parts. I'm pretty sure it could. Design specs are also done by an open forum where x86 is a proprietary design, a bad thing when you look at history.
Very cool. I just built my first pc yesterday using a gtx580, 16g corsair ram, i7 3.4ghz, Msi board, 60g ssd, and 1tb hdd 7200 rpm's. This machine is awesome, I don't think I'll return to console gaming.
he probably bought both the gtx295's a year and half ago or so when their prices become more realistic for running crysis and warhead etc. not everyone cares about having the latest DX between dx9 and dx10..there i sn't really enough difference to justify going from win xp to vista. i skipped shitty vista altogether. jammed on my 8800gt until saving up enough for my galaxy gtx580 accelero xtreme plus hsf edition gpu. LOVE IT!! big..3 slots taken up but LOVE IT.
@LordJummy you're NAGGING of my grammar is about a useful as a tick on a dog. PISS OFF TROLL. It's not my responsibility to EDUCATE you about computer hardware and many coherent comparisons involved.
@LordJummy I KNOW im not the one confused. Why? I KNOW from Experience. 10 years custom building more than 40 gaming computers for 40 different customers, have used amd and nvidia chipset video cards per customer request basis, have built them using equal amount of amd and intel cpu's, ocz, corsair, kingston ram, and virtually every band of motherboard out there. You're welcome.convo is over..get over it. it's done. ya lost. move on.
@LordJummy you're about the dumbest fucktard I have ever had to correct on youtube. Kid do ya not have a life? Seriously. you're not funny and you're no longer entertaining, pathetic, or hopeless enough for me to care. end of the conversation. done over. do not pass go and collect money. ya lost, the end. fin, hasta nunca. no quiero de a tu. sal`es ahora. it's called a clue. I can only spell it out for ya so many ways kid. Get over it. I'm done responding. You lost.
@chronofusion you seem to have some serious anger issues. you also said the conversation was over in your comment before this one. your desperation shows that you are scared and lost. i really hope that you find your way soon. god bless!
@2x4 I did download it from there and ran it but it keeps going back and forth to the mainscreen then to a black screen then after 30 seconds to a bsod.
Do i need a gtx 480 for this cos ive only got 2 gtx 295s in sli?
Holy shit, that looks so damn realistic
lonesoldier33 1 month ago
I have 2 570s :D
bloc22 2 months ago
my GTX 560 lags a little bit on full tesselations :(
gunnery18 4 months ago
@gunnery18 maybe you should get a better proccesor or more ram cause mine dosent lag at all
mstrx21 2 months ago
@mstrx21 i know, my 4gb ram and my core 2 duo is weak
gunnery18 2 months ago
@gunnery18 actually,your ram is good,but whats really slowing you down is that core 2 duo,atleast get quad form amd or intel or maybe even a 6 core
mstrx21 2 months ago
@gunnery18 i would reccomend intel core quad 3.25 ghz+ to you,then youll be able to play everything flawlessly.
mstrx21 2 months ago
@gunnery18 Get a quad core >3ghz. if you you plan on using crossfire or SLI you'll need a faster CPU though.. 4GB really isn't enough anymore.. 6gb is, but I'd go for at least 8gb.
Very few games are 64 bit, but you still need to consider the OS. Of games that are 64 bit, they will often use it.
abram730 1 month ago
@abram730 thanks!
gunnery18 1 month ago
8 is the answer
acemace3618 4 months ago
well crysis water does look almost like this
roshawn1111 5 months ago
oh sorry for my ignorance but how did you spend?
ale13471096 6 months ago
@2x4 How did you spend for this pc and where can i buy it?
ale13471096 6 months ago
@ale13471096 i bought all parts at newegg and put it together
2x4 6 months ago 6
@2x4 You know if Nvidia puts their project Denver on their graphics cards it would be quite easy to expand the PC gaming base and get more games.
You could run most or all of the game from the graphics card. There is talk of next gen consoles being ARM too. As simple as telling somebody to get a PC with a 600 watt power supply and a Nvidia card.
It's the complexity of needing to "learn things" that limits the number of PC gamers.
Average IQ is 100 and all.
abram730 1 month ago
@abram730 ARM is aimed at powerconservative systems. You want high performance, like for games x86 is the way to go for the foreseeable future. I doubt adding a simple arm core to a videocard is going to make it run more than the simplest of things. Would be nice for a phone or tablet though.
An arch that I admire and think would be a better replacement for the hackjob called x86 would be PPC imho. I think they agree looking at certain new instructions, AVX in particular.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo 8 ARMv8 cores @ 3ghz is comparable to a 4 core sandy bridge cores @ 2.4ghz, if what I read was correct.. ARMv8 also uses just 2 watts per core at 3GHZ. X-Gene is looking to put 32 cores on a chip for servers.
Games don't really use much CPU power.. 20% CPU loads are quite common.
Project Denver is 8 64bit ARM cores and 256-512 CUDA cores(32 or 64 per core) as of last reports.
Do you know PPC watts per core?
abram730 2 weeks ago
@abram730 ARMv8 at 3Ghz and 2 watts? Those cores must be simplified or no way. Which would explain why they are comparable to 1,5Ghz of SB.
X-Gene is not the first, HP already has ARM servers for sale. Many simple cores, but they are not suited to all kinds of workloads.
"20% CPU loads are quite common", eeh, excuse me? What kind of godlike 10Ghz cpu do you have? Or do you stick to Fruit Ninja and Angry Birds?
Fire up a 2000 entity Supreme Commander game, or Shogun 2 maxed out.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@abram730 You'll see my 4 core SB sweat from time to time. Equally impressive is X3 when you have a lot of factories and populated systems. The simulated economy can make your rig cruynch numbers. Sure, COD might max at 25%, but that is a console port.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo I actually use Total war games to save me money on heating in the winter lol.. sooo, yes they do use my system. I had empires on for over a month once.
Some games have problems with the hyper threading and can run better on an OC 9650. It's that most games max out one core, mostly issues with older games.
abram730 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo I think the best possible performance IMO would come from an asymmetric chip.. The highest performance core you could get and then arrays of micro cores running in parallel with a core designed specifically to manage the micro core arrays and do some complex tasks they can't.
ARM simply has numbers and $ behind it right now. It also has a good perf per watt and Moor's law will soon make that hard to ignore.
abram730 2 weeks ago
@abram730 That was already kind of done with the CEll-cpu in the PS3. It's design is something I really admire, one single PPC with several vector cores that can do parallel workloads and generate graphics. Too bad developing for it was too difficult and they had to add a full vga card instead of just a rasterizer.
PPC scales from my router at a comfy 1,2Ghz(20 watt system draw) to the 4,7Ghz behemoths of IBM. The scaling is godly. Where ARM is more for the simpler powersaving
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo A Cell like CPU is what I'm talking about. There is lots of support for CUDA and soon OpenACC. OpenACC is high level, using compiler directives. I think it's part of OpenMP. It doesn't have the programing difficulty of the Cell and does graphic native as they are graphics cores. Integrating at the instruction level would help.
Look at Cray's upgrade from Jaguars to Titans.
abram730 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo
As to ARM
performance per watt = performance. Many things are already at a power wall. You can't very well put a 200 watt CPU on a console. I'm not talking about the death of x86, just a shrinking market.
I think the future of CPU's will be in instruction sets that can scale up in parallel. 8, 16, 32, 64 operation blocks with larger, not so latency dependent jobs done by specialty chips like a GPU or on a server.
abram730 2 weeks ago
@abram730 devices, and x86 is more for performance, the PPC can and does both already. And the powersaving could use some work, but if you put the design on 22nm and use deep sleep power states for the idle cores it might just idle belows Intels parts. I'm pretty sure it could. Design specs are also done by an open forum where x86 is a proprietary design, a bad thing when you look at history.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
Good sir, what program do you use to check the fps of games?
007finness 8 months ago 3
@007finness fraps, kind sir
2x4 8 months ago 9
@2x4 thank you.
007finness 8 months ago
Very cool. I just built my first pc yesterday using a gtx580, 16g corsair ram, i7 3.4ghz, Msi board, 60g ssd, and 1tb hdd 7200 rpm's. This machine is awesome, I don't think I'll return to console gaming.
palefaced1 9 months ago
@palefaced1 good on you mate that's a killer rig.
fragman08 5 months ago
This graphics card is amazing no need for 590 or radeon 6990
ryangamv8 9 months ago 5
he probably bought both the gtx295's a year and half ago or so when their prices become more realistic for running crysis and warhead etc. not everyone cares about having the latest DX between dx9 and dx10..there i sn't really enough difference to justify going from win xp to vista. i skipped shitty vista altogether. jammed on my 8800gt until saving up enough for my galaxy gtx580 accelero xtreme plus hsf edition gpu. LOVE IT!! big..3 slots taken up but LOVE IT.
chronofusion 10 months ago
@chronofusion that was the most useless run on sentence comment ever.
LordJummy 9 months ago
@LordJummy you're NAGGING of my grammar is about a useful as a tick on a dog. PISS OFF TROLL. It's not my responsibility to EDUCATE you about computer hardware and many coherent comparisons involved.
chronofusion 9 months ago
@chronofusion i think you are a bit confused sir.
LordJummy 9 months ago
@LordJummy I KNOW im not the one confused. Why? I KNOW from Experience. 10 years custom building more than 40 gaming computers for 40 different customers, have used amd and nvidia chipset video cards per customer request basis, have built them using equal amount of amd and intel cpu's, ocz, corsair, kingston ram, and virtually every band of motherboard out there. You're welcome.convo is over..get over it. it's done. ya lost. move on.
chronofusion 9 months ago
@chronofusion very impressive string of random words.
LordJummy 9 months ago
@LordJummy you're about the dumbest fucktard I have ever had to correct on youtube. Kid do ya not have a life? Seriously. you're not funny and you're no longer entertaining, pathetic, or hopeless enough for me to care. end of the conversation. done over. do not pass go and collect money. ya lost, the end. fin, hasta nunca. no quiero de a tu. sal`es ahora. it's called a clue. I can only spell it out for ya so many ways kid. Get over it. I'm done responding. You lost.
chronofusion 9 months ago
@chronofusion you seem to have some serious anger issues. you also said the conversation was over in your comment before this one. your desperation shows that you are scared and lost. i really hope that you find your way soon. god bless!
LordJummy 9 months ago
Crysis already looks better
TheAussieStew 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
i found it at nzone.com
bigpoint58 1 year ago
no one on the planet will dislike couse its the best :D
prohacker883 1 year ago
Give me a call when they will actually use this in games... Saw this over a year ago and everyone was hyped. Who has implemented it? No one..
stovnergutt 1 year ago
@stovnergutt
Well, Just Cause 2 uses this (CUDA GPU accelerated water rendering). And it looks fantastic.
But you are right I can't name many other games besides JC2.
darkzerk7 11 months ago
@darkzerk7 JC2 has a bad water effects if u compare tu this one :)
sbk180tr 10 months ago
This in 720p=Fuck real life :PP
Silvester94T3 1 year ago
@Silvester94T3 lmfao yea, fuk traveling anywhere, we can see the beauty of evrything on our own PCs =P
DaLooseGoose11 1 year ago
can i run this whit a GTS450? ^^
VitalSoX 1 year ago
@VitalSoX , yes you can because it runs on dx 11 .
manandblack2 1 year ago
check this out msi laptop
>>>> LAPTOP directX 11 tessellation SUPPORTED (msi GX640)
pogi2st 1 year ago
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EliTeGaming01 1 year ago
gtx 580 would be my next upgrade, but how many watt of psu needed to power up this card?
MattSynysterRx20 1 year ago
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@MattSynysterRx20 you can check on nvidias website
fuge805 1 year ago
@MattSynysterRx20
minimum 600W for a single. I would recommend 850W and 1200W+ for tri-sli. Of course it all depends on your other hardware as well.
HDaviator 1 year ago
wow, This looks so real in life, Greatfully of technology, we can't imagine in those future
hanscool26 1 year ago
That is incredible! I love it!
MansellRa 1 year ago
no niezla ta woda
szatanizmo 1 year ago
This perfoms worst on 5870
When I got it all on right only 5 FPS
zhiheng2005 1 year ago
@zhiheng2005 lol, my 5850
toontent 1 year ago
@toontent
This is because AMD Cards have no PhysX acceleration, that is the main problem
zhiheng2005 1 year ago
thanks for posting this man.. i'm amazed.. my 470 drops to 14-15 fps (without fraps) when i move all slides right
inemanja 1 year ago
can you link the download please?
popothecatathome 1 year ago
The only downside is that it does move quite faster then it should :(
26psyside 1 year ago
Where can i download this
iceman111 1 year ago
@iceman111 i found it at guru3d
2x4 1 year ago
@2x4 I did download it from there and ran it but it keeps going back and forth to the mainscreen then to a black screen then after 30 seconds to a bsod.
Do i need a gtx 480 for this cos ive only got 2 gtx 295s in sli?
iceman111 1 year ago
@iceman111 this is a dx11 tech demo so you won't be able to run it because gtx295 does not support dx11
2x4 1 year ago
@iceman111 U have Dual GTX295 and u don't know they don't support Dx11??? wow! just... WOW!
sbk180tr 10 months ago