Homeworld2 - PDS V11 Reaction Force

[Pouk3D]

Really good music, nice video.

[refutonefandus]

@Elukka Why do you not come to #Homeworld anymore? Also, what music is this?

[Picard578]

In which version is there Mariijan class battlestar?

[benzilabane]

I'm amazed the A.i didn't simply wipe that carrier out of existence, annoying when the combat a.i decides my hig carrier needs to wonder off doesn't really matter with vag carriers they can fend for themselves :)

[ThePixelChaos]

too bad the site is dead now. heh but everything comes to an end.

[Evangelinger]

i think it would be really awesome if the point defense mod and the R.E.A.R.M mod were put together into one.

[SpootKnight]

Good old Point Defense and their never-ending ion cannons.

[Fliuck]

0:48 to 0:54

Opps! Had the silly thing in reverse!

[dbzandroid13]

if you play multiplayer message me

[ilikepienotu]

Dose hw2 and point defense system work on win 7

[atroublestarter]

Also, i thought point defence systems were supposed to target missiles? this doesn't seem to be happening in the mod?

[atroublestarter]

is the pds v11 mod the only modification active at the time of taking this video? i have started using this mod and i've noticed some differences. I've played the campaign and player vs cpu and haven't had access to any of these new ships, and also the cannon turrets (ie on the battlecruiser or battlecarrier, whatever it was) sounds different to mine!?

i'm 99% certain i've installed the mod correctly.

[Vaesyr]

I actually had a lot of problems with this mods AI, whenever I told one of my ships to bail out and do something else they continued attacking, even when their target was destroyed they moved to the closest one. Plus the little voice overs carried over to my main game and my other mods (very annoying after a while, especially the fighter squadron creation event). It's an awesome mod, but it needs work >.<

[Talyn81]

Man if I had two of the Reaction Force super battle cruisers I could rescue Captain Sobhan from Vaygr. Hey Makaan say hello to my little friend Ha ha ha!

[Xangba]

"realistic" space combat wouldn't be nearly as awesome as space combat we have in games, don't ruin the idea of it by talking about what really happens in space

[Talyn81]

Man how many guns does the Majirian class super battle cruiser has? I starting to like this class over the Prince Of Hiigara class cruiser.

[Talyn81]

What is the name of class the Hiigaran light cruiser & Hiigaran battle cruisers in this mod?

[Elukka]

@Talyn81 The light cruiser is the LiirHra, (named after the kiith which I believe was mentioned in the HW manual) can't remember what the battlecruiser was called.

[Picard578]

@Elukka Prince of Hiigara, I think

[WayfstrthnU]

@Talyn81 I believe it's the "Majiirian-class" Super Battlecruiser. It's named after the founder of Kiith Paktu, Majiir Paktu. At least, if I remember correctly.

[LegendaryGoldDragon]

Sniff Sniff Windows 7-64 Bit fried this game....prob one of the only RTS games in years I've every liked for PC T_T

The Soundtrack is (Nutritious- Homeworld) if anyone is interested.

[bobbob0213]

I love how it seems like the ships in this mod can take more damage than other mods.. lol

[Dreadnought942]

i love this game. its the best game out there in the space strategy genre. awesome graphics, the battle chatter is also really good. :)

i broke my disk by accident :( shit i f this game was still for sale id buy it again.

sadly have to download it.

oh and for anyone woundering where to find mods visit moddub :) google it.

defo best game, best video. thumbs up. for the video :)

[SuperDILLIGAF1]

what the fuck is everyones problem? its a game for shit sakes

[LordMunchkin]

@SuperDILLIGAF1

WTF is everyone's problem with a little speculation? Did it suddenly become a crime to think?

[russiangangsta41]

If you want to talk about realism, you wouldn't hear sound in space. It would just be some epic music and combat chatter, and total silence. Also, a ship would continue moving after it shut off its engines unless it fired reverse thrusters.

[LordMunchkin]

In reality you actually wouldn't see the laser beams in space unless they were using one in the color frequency. Even then you might only see the color for an instance outside your gun and the enemy hull. GUN=----- -----=HULL

[Elukka]

In reality you also wouldn't be fighting at ranges where you can actually see the enemy, fuel would be a big factor, and you wouldn't use any unguided projectiles. :P

Actually I really want to see a game that tries to simulate realistic-ish space combat.

[LordMunchkin]

@Elukka

Yes I realize that. In the case of total realism I'd pick a craft using 3 fusion inertial confinement drives and liquid lithium heat sinks. Arm her with two terawatt armored lasers and she'll be able to out gun all but the biggest missile buses.

[robish2]

@Elukka

Keep dreaming oO. I don't think they will do that :p

[1994chocolatemilk]

Try Independence War, that game is incredibly realistic, a little too realistic at times to be fun but good nonetheless.

[Yoofokneeum]

@Elukka Microsoft space simulator 2010.

I'd like to see that too.

[zool201975]

@Elukka most fights happen in nebula's. in those nebula's enough matter is in the beam to see it. even if it wont use visible light (which is silly to use) then the atoms and molecules can be exited enough to emit their own light. ea you will then see a beam. do keep in mind this is a beam using so many photons it can cut and blast holes in meters thick armor ;)

electricity sparks is a good example. electrons are invisible but the air gets exited by the electrons to release its own light

[rusalkin]

even if its a UV laser, space combat would be made more visable through hud stuff, similar to modern night vision that displays exactly where that infra red laser is coming from, you would have such great distances that it would be futile to rely on sight, it would all be CG enhanced, so for the sake of "coolness depiction" they (future movie guys) would make all the stuff visable so that people would know how it feels like to be a space pilot

[oilotnoM]

@Elukka Have you tried Starshatter, it's about the closest thing I've seen so far.

Still firmly in the sci-fi realm though.

[lesleyhenriquez]

@Elukka Unguided projectiles? Oh yes you would. Close in kinetic weapons, you can always get caught off guard, and breaking the hull would be good.

Otherwise, just torpedoes at large ranges.

Or just fire intelligent cruisemissiles and unmanned fighter drones. No lifes at risk.

[Cobac]

@Elukka i know its alte but you could try x3 terran conflict

[urishima]

@Elukka I'm not so sure about the 'no unguided projectiles' thing. I mean, here on earth, guided ordnance changes directions by using fins and rudders, right? Well, since there there is a near perfect vacuum in space (about one particle each cubicle cm in the interstellar medium) missles would have to use small engines to change course, making them a lot heavier. On the other, hand, since there is no friction in space, these engines would run a lot more effitiently.

[Elukka]

@urishima All it takes to evade an unguided projectile is to burn your engines for a bit in any direction. Alter your course by the tiniest bit and it'll miss.

Since there's no air the only way to maneuver is by rocket engines, which means that besides the main engine you need to add in maneuvering thrusters, and, more importantly, propellant tanks. You have to carry all your reaction mass since there's no air to push around with jet engines or fins.

[rusalkin]

at the tip of a missle is a small but heavy object that can move around,

that changes the center of mass and since the thrust is at the other end u have archimedes lever effekt

thus no need for air and fins

[urishima]

@rusalkin of course, haven't thought about that. Slab some thrust vector control on that bad boy and you're all set.

[darkbit1001]

@Elukka What about if you pit 2 Death Stars against each other? Is that what you want?

[My1account1is1a1spy]

@Elukka You need to know however, that people will not buy that game for 2 reasons. One, not as cinematic. Two, having to deal with the dickery that is space physics. But yeah I would want to see a game like that too.

[macca1088]

@LordMunchkin

In reality space combat would be rather dull....and silent

[wraith1771]

@macca1088 exactly. Thats the reason for the laser light shows and sound XF otherwise games like these would be far less popular.

come on, who really wants to watch a bunch of silent and otherwise boring(aside from exploding ships) space battles?

and kinetic weapons can not be discounted. if a civilization has the tech to create ships like the ones in HW2 you can bet they would have railguns that could accelerate matter to near light speed.

[SanityIsALie]

@LordMunchkin in reality noone cares about reality

[zan25051]

@LordMunchkin They are not "laser beams"

They are Ion beams. In reality, they would be much more powerful. They would completely disable the ships they hit, because of how intense the electrical charge is.

[lolhehewtf]

@LordMunchkin Whilst you're right about the laser thing, the weapons used "insert sci-fi fluff from one of the manuals, I forget which" are Ion Cannons/Beams not lasers. They fire a charged beam of hydrgoen/helium ions along a magnetically enclosed path towards the enemy ship which is then "ignited" using a laser. Whilst the laser itself will not be visible, the excited ion stream will produce photons which you can see.

[spawnof200]

@LordMunchkin Of course you would see the beams, these arn't lasers they are ion beams.

[ffaaassssddddddddd]

even for a game thats over 10-15 years old it still has unrivaled gameplay and the graphics are STILL AWESOME. definitely top 5 best games of all time, good luck finding someone to dispute that fact :D

[Talyn81]

@ffaaassssddddddddd I agree with you on that Homeworld 2 is one of the best. I just wish you could play Sajuuk for more than one level. Plus I want these warships in the game.

[SuperThatGame]

good vid. good game.=)

[ScottJackson117]

This looks awesome!

[benjamin5028]

I love those two cap ships, good escort and Calvary ships

[Maldius]

It's called Eyecandy...

But yeah, they are too big, thats enough hull plates to build 10x fleets

[1994chocolatemilk]

Actually they do serve some purpose in the backstory, but that hasn't been fully explained yet, maybe in Homeworld 3...

[dorgodorato]

I never understood the Solar System sized hull plates in the background...

[RevEngEspc]

Progenitor relics, I'm guessing.

[WayfstrthnU]

Good timing at 3:43, when the ships say "supporting friendly units", all those fighters and capital ships move in to support that stupid Carrier which wandered right next to a battlecruiser

[RynxXK5]

Yea but it was his bust cuz he didn't make it :(

[WayfstrthnU]

1:14 Are those Heavy Scouts or Heavy interceptors?

[Elukka]

Pretty sure those were Avenger heavy interceptors.

[RynxXK5]

yea they were I loved using those things as escorts for my Battlecruisers

[firemachinima]

should I buy this? Idk if its good

[festerisinthehouse]

i'm telling u it's the best game ever!!!

[trance22355]

yea bestttt

[WayfstrthnU]

You can try to find it on Amazon; however, it is available on BitTorrent. Homeworld 2 is very good, so you should get it some way or another. The mod's not the best, and it's REALLY hard, but its still fun.

[firemachinima]

oKAY

[AirWaterLandBuffalo]

Homeworld 1 is the best game ever, very closely followed by the other Homeworld games. If you buy any of them, your life will be complete.

[ultimatedirtclod]

I have all three so I guess my life is triply complete ^_^

[seekerbiswas]

@AirWaterLandBuffalo Well I started homeworld with homeworld 2 never played homeworld one should i try getting it

[AirWaterLandBuffalo]

I would definitely recommend it. It is different to HW2, but I prefer it.

[RPNova]

AWLB: HW1 was far better for storyline. However I much prefer HW2+mods for skirmish. All of them a brilliant games though. I've yet to find any that comes close since they came out.

[WayfstrthnU]

Wow 2:56, Battlecruisers>Star Destroyers. Just get about 4 or 5 of these things, BOOM - even the Executor (Super Star Destroyer) can't stand to these things.

[WayfstrthnU]

I just tried out the mod, too bad you can only have 2 Super Battlecruisers at a time. Oh well, thats still plenty of firepower

[WayfstrthnU]

Also at 1:40 and 5:50

[jshabadoo]

PDS is a good mod but Complex is prb the best out there.

[Mewiel]

Sole problem with PDS is that you must set every single unit to aggresive if you want to enable the couter-measures and anti-missile guns.

It makes the ships go berserk in the middle of the ennemy's fleet and gives a hard time having them do as you bid.

[LoneSniperSG]

If they're spewing out that much fire, I don't think you need to tell them what to do at the moment.

[Mewiel]

Try it, then you'll now what I'm talking about.

One of the ways to make it work is to have then go around the enemy in a waypoint circle.

Other than that, they're toast, since the enemy often has twice as much firepower.

[erikmann]

although my opinion of PDS is well known and it is all negative, i have to say elukka, good work and stuff on your video

very well done and can tell its a labor of love to you

[Jednooki89]

I played at PDS v11This is very well make mod for a Homeworl 2, but in my opinion too much lasers :/ Fighter with laser? Not good connections. Maby pulsar canons - OK. And more missiles xD

Good Luck for the rest of creating mod ;]

(sorry for english :P)

[Riptr]

Every time I see a PDS video, I get the strange urge to install the game.

I'm now off to reinstall Homeworld 2.

[NorthernCommand]

i like the mod, but i got the game from a friend. Does the mod work without the cd or with a crack?

[Elukka]

You could, like, buy the game.

[Dracofyre]

@Elukka Didn't you know? All the cool kids these days just screw the developers and have no care for the work that went into the games the kids feel entitled to.

[AirWaterLandBuffalo]

Goddammit, I hate pirates.

[Wargeneralguy]

ive tried modding this game but the damn campign folder dosnt actually exist on my comp.

its of homeworld 2 right?

(and yeh the campain works fine) im on vista btw, help appriciated

[Elukka]

You'd have to extract the .big files to get access to the folders. See the RelicNews modding forum.

[B5RobMan]

Man, this mod must make the vanilla campaign startlingly easy, especially the previously INSANE fights against the Keepers..

[Hawawaa]

Downloading mod! Excellent video! I have the same Homeworld music!

[MaSSiVe0101]

I like this music.. solo at 2:40 is pretty spacely awesomely mysteriously good:P

[MaSSiVe0101]

i downloaded the song. I had to download all the songs he had on that page, took me a while to find the Electro solo i was talking about. But the songs name is Nutritious - The Fallen :) nice solo in that song:)

[Stormtjakka]

You passed your awesomeness exam by saying the title. Thanks dude

[orca464]

nice music and a good vid

[ranger7650]

cool mod, i read hoqw to inastall it, unzip files to hw2 fodler and add soem parameter , will i still be ale to play normal no-mod hw2?

[Elukka]

Yup, when you launch it from a shortcut that doesn't have that parameter

[WhiteTorrent]

dontcha just love "light" battlecruisets?

[Elukka]

Mm, yes, the LiirHra. Nice design, too.

[WhiteTorrent]

actually, i think the LiiHra is too rounded, parts of it dont fit the Hiigarin designs, like most of the other models do. However, i love the vayger "queen of the damned", the best-looking ship on the whole mod.

[Elukka]

It's rounded because unlike the other ships (bar some fighters), it's designed for atmospheric flight.

[WhiteTorrent]

but its massive..... i dont think the weight/thrust ratio will balance out XD pinpoint planetary bombardment and troop drop pods are the way to go!

[Wargeneralguy]

lets referance this to starwars's deathstar.. thats reletively large and has one epic lazor cannon on it, thats round yet carnt quite hold itself in the air. lol

think of the engine needed to keep THAT in the air.

[Weirdo10o4]

This has inspired me to come over and play homeworld on your (super)computer... On second thought I'm too lazy.

[Elukka]

(that's luckily a real life friend, not an e-stalker)

[LambOfNile]

HAHAHAHA, love it xD

[JediJoshua16]

Good mod I like it! But i hope the fighters are not left out, i love fighters(Not too weak). I got to get this mod anyway!

[Elukka]

Heh, fighters are certainly useful.

You can take out an unprotected battleship with a bunch of bombers

[LtSurge659]

You were right~

And the visual quality is still stunning

Great music choice too, although you coulda turned down the volume a tad to let the cannonfire and communications be heard better. Just a tweak rly

[stevenjoebob]

the song reminds me of that from Homeworlds one, the Kadeshi swarmer song, just guitar-it-tized XD lol

[Elukka]

The song is actually a remix of that.

[stevenjoebob]

I thought so hehe it's good none the less

[LoneSniperSG]

2:57 Love those cannons..

[Nadiler]

Nice vid

Not too laggy

Sound (damn laud ;] ) + voices (from game but that nice detail)

Music fits 6/5 ;]

[grumbl69]

heey its me again butt on a friends account and your right i had this with my

HPS(Hyperspace) missile battle barge i tried out yesterday as my first try to mod a ship

had all the effects right but when i fired missiles from it you would see the HS portals come up but the missiles somewhere between 100 and 500m from a enemy ship

[blaatzak]

and they where supposed to appear in a perfect ball 100m from a enemy ship(its PDS mod)

[blaatzak]

anybody noticed that the shots from the underside gun of those BC's dont line up with the turrets themselves

[Elukka]

The ion cannons? I think that's some sort of engine limitation, because the vanilla ships sometimes do this, too. My guess is it has to do with the ships moving rather fast.

They also get displaced if you pause the game.

[danielaung691]

dude ur ships r so cool. but how do i do it how do i mod.

[routhoula]

i installed the mod but it crashes every time i try to run a pds skirmish. plz help

[Elukka]

You probably did something wrong, then. Go to the PDS help forum and check the "HOW-TO SET UP PDS/NGCS ON PC---!READ BEFORE POSTING!" sticky.

[routhoula]

thnx

[jonathanf4]

oh kool

[jonathanf4]

wat does psd stand for?

[Elukka]

Point Defense Systems.

This is because originally all it did was add small weapons (point defense systems) on capital ships to help them fight fighters.

[Gam3sA10t]

They're ion cannons are orange though arnt they?

[Gam3sA10t]

Does PDS only work for the Campaign?!?!

[orca464]

that music almost could pass as starcraft 2 zerg music

[SpraxIAKS]

Good choice of music.

[al3xandrul]

Where can i find instalation instructions for the PDS V11 ????

[Gam3sA10t]

The ReadMe. You have to install it first. :( I got confuzed too.

[ranger7650]

But that higaraan cruiser have too many turrets :)

[xsun2]

By my standards, nothing has enough guns. Every thing should be completely encrusted in turrents

[ranger7650]

hmm..... loks very, very good I like ships with lot of guns :))

[Saiko47]

Good god how many guns does that Hiigaran battlcrusier have?! Its got like 7+.

[typhoonoftempest]

I'd say over 20 turrets, but then again that's me counting.

[Saiko47]

Strike craft? What strike craft? ^_^

[Apiaani]

Oh it's got guns but a force of bombers should have no problem taking it out if it isn't properly supported.

[BlackOmega9]

You best have a lot of bombers buddy.....in PDS they're little more than support craft, best they can down on their own are frigates. Cruisers and Battleships have monstrous point defense weaponry.

[Elukka]

Makes sense, though - Wars are usually fought with similar technology.

[aznargo]

I can't get mine to work. Every time I try to play a duel, test duel, invasion, etc. it just closes. i can play invasion for a little bit, but then i just closes too.

[aznargo]

oh wait, nevermind. i got it to work

[typhoonoftempest]

well, one thing that I don't like about the PDS mod is that it gives the Vaygr ion cannons. I would think they would stick to what they do best: fire off a hail of nasty missiles. Then again, I didn't make it, so there's not much I can do =P

[BScharlach]

Nice video, did you beat the mission?

[Elukka]

Yup. If memory serves, the Vaygr at the shipyard were the last enemies.

[Xiomen]

wut is this game and wut do u do

[Elukka]

It's Homeworld 2 and it's a real time strategy game.

[jasontangy]

pretty good movie, is their any difference made to the game with this mod cos i dont really notice much changes

[Elukka]

Uhh... you missed how it changes basically everything except some ship models?

[jasontangy]

oh heh

[Burningmist]

It's pointless to have HW2 without PDS

[jasontangy]

it isnt im literally hooked and i aint got any mods

[typhoonoftempest]

My only complaint is in the middle of the song, when we first see the Higgy BC, there is a terrible stitching of the song to extend it. Otherwise, Elukka, it is an awesome video (saved under 'favorites')

[Elukka]

True.. that was because i was too lazy to open up Audacity and did it in Movie Maker.

There's actually a second stitching there, but it's not so horrible.

[typhoonoftempest]

I will say that at 4:40, you had done a beautiful job at the stitching

[telquessir]

Just watched it, and OMG lol fun

[Rodrivy]

awsome footage & views

[erikmann]

PDS=viruses and adware on your computer

[Elukka]

Uh... no it's not.

What makes you think a game mod would get you viruses and adware?

[wsewse]

PDS = german socialist party

[AirWaterLandBuffalo]

LOL.

[battledroidx]

Another hit with me.

[OldAndCranky]

Really snazzy battlecruiser moves.

[whatewer23]

Hei ootsä suomesta?

[Elukka]

Joo.

[whatewer23]

voisitsä kertoa miten ton modin saa?

[Elukka]

Youtube ei anna laittaa nettiosotteita tähän, googleta "filefront telquessir", siitä lataa sitte V11B8Full.zip ja PDSv11b8to801update.zip.

Toi modin oma nettisivu on tossa videon vieressä.

[whatewer23]

ok kiitti

[whatewer23]

ok mä latasin sen mutta miten mä asennan sen?