Stupak: You can't fire me, I quit! Now that he has quit I have a question. He quit if you or I quit we can't get unemployment. Does he still get his Government benefits?
Go to fuckin' hell dipshit, I do believe we need government but more and more and more, give me a fuckin' break. Go right ahead and keep paying all that tax money to people with no drive and no goals, wasteoids just like you!!!!!
Nafaidni, Lincoln's executive order did something because he won a massive war over it, because the EO itself changed something (as opposed to merely clarifying a law just passed), and because he (and most of the North) very much wanted to enforce it. We are not in anything like the same situation.
(Cont'd from below) The idea that an EO necessarily has "the full force of the law, period" is just not tenable. It might, when the person ordering it wants to enforce it and has absolute power to do so; but when it's a weak clarification of a law that was just passed issued by someone who despises it and would love to avoid enforcing it, it counts for virtually nothing. At absolute most, it might cost President Obama a few political points if he quietly sweeps it under the rug.
Again, stop acting like the Executive Order isn't a big deal. Stop acting like Stupak sold out.
The Executive Order has the full force of law; period.
If an Executive Order can end slavery, what makes you think that it can't prevent federal funding from being used to pay for abortions?
Right-wingers have been fooled by their masters into believing the left, the liberals, those who value the life of every individual, believe that abortions are a good thing.
Incredible. Stupak has lost his bitty mind. The Democrats are the party of protection for the unborn?!! 180 degrees wrong. It is unbelievable Stupak would even utter such obvious nonsense. Bizarro World has arrived. Up am down, Ugly am pretty.
Here's a guy who has no choice but to convince himself he made the right choice, by going against his prior convictions. He's like the preacher preaching out loud trying to convince himself of his own sermon. My Mom was a Democrat, may her memory be eternal, and she would have voted his two-faced self . . . out of there! It would have had nothing to do with abortion at all. This ordeal just split his constituents votes down the middle. He now has to play Stupik. Have some balls!
dems are toast ! liars ..betrayers...promising all..and delivering nothing but more big gov and taxes.... theyve done nothing for the minorities.. the reps did !
@fppmd2 I agree with you. I don't know why so many people are saying he's pro-choice...It looks like many people are actually using the abortion debate to promote their party or political views rather than promote life. Stupak did a good job.
It's because Republicants are angry that he's not a stupid wingnut with no principles.
They, even like me, to be honest, thought he was just a shill who would vote against the bill no matter what was added to it.
Only I expressed dislike of him for it while the right expressed satisfaction.
When he proved all of us wrong, our opinions re-polarized to the extreme. I grew extreme respect for his honesty and principles while the right resented him for it.
Why are you retards so bitchy about this anyway? Why would Democrats want to fund abortion? Most of them are rigidly against that, which is why they supported this amendment LAST TIME, when it wasn't proposed simply to derail the legislative process
You Republicants are blinded by your media and representatives (or should I say masters) who paint Obama and Democrats as abortion-junkies who can't pass a single bill without somehow adding abortion in there.
Show me the clause in the legislation that allows any federal funds for abortion.
Once you find nothing, I'll show you the Executive Order, which has full force of law, btw.
The Emancipation Proclamation which ended slavery was an Executive Order. It had the full force of law. So does this one, reasserting the value of the unborn.
stupidpack, you could have done something good for the country but you caved like like a cheap suit. You never were a pro lifer or you would have never fallen for that trick. You are a noodle back man. No spine or strength of conviction. No balls just an empty scrotum
No one seems to know why Stupak suddenly gave in and accepted the senate bill's language after he spent months and months opposing it. Obama's executive order was the only thing, but considering that the EO is utterly meaningless and everyone knows it, Stupak's sudden change of heart remains unexplained.
Umm... What did he say that was wrong? He made sure that the government would not fund abortion, and continues to fight for the unborn... The republicans didn't do crap. The enraged uninformed tea-partiers have gotten so much press attention (which snowballs, and energises more uninformed wackos), that republicans are affraid to even suggest that reforming (out of control) health care might be a good idea.
Doesn't much matter, since the legislative law doesn't fund abortions, anyway. This order only reinforces that fact. Nothing in the law disagrees with the order, so trumping is not necessary.
And if you disagree, I BEG YOU to show me the clause that permits it in the law.
It doesn't directly fund abortion but my understanding is that Plans that do cover abortion will be receiving federal money. This is the reason for the Executive order. My point was the order cannot modfiy law, hence the order is useless and in my opinion unconstitutional.
It's about time someone stands up and tells the truth about the Republicans and their false sense of loyality to the Abortion issue. They pander it out there for all to think they are so supportive, when basically they are doing so for political gain. The likes of Jean Schmidt and John Boehner and what they spew out of their mouth. People are not stupid! But then again maybe they are.....
His son committed suicide and yet this monster still pushes on for the socialist utopia. Maybe it was best that his son didn't see what a spineless sellout his father was unless he knew and was part of what contributed to his son doing what he did.
Stupak is a horrible person and he sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver and proves almost all demonrats are the same and there is no such thing as a pro-life democrat.
How's it feel to have sold your soul for a bit or power and attention. Will you be able to handle to guilt of really being maybe the face of the ugliest thing we have ever seen because of YOU? Obviously your heart is void so I'm guessing it wont bother you. We as all men are flawed but you really take the cake....
Health care for babies AFTER they are born? Boo! Hiss! Once they exit the womb their days of freeloading are over. Throw some bootie straps at them. Put them to work. No socialist post-natal care for them!
Keep repeating talking points, Republican't. Won't change the truth any degree.
Show me a single part of the legislature that allows abortions. A SINGLE PART that defies previous law and allows abortion.
And once you don't find anything, I'll show you the Executive Order. Legislature might trump an Executive Order, but when there's nothing in the legislature at odds with an Executive Order, guess who wins?
Do you honestly think that this won't cover abortions. I'm sorry but you have been smoking some good stuff! You are just like the Obama minions who are fainting
at his sight, he is going to get the boot in 2012 and then you can go live in Cuba or North Korea if you wish you piece of shit socialist.
Yes I do, you fucking idiot. Not only is it illegal for it to fund abortions already, it has absolutely no clause permitting abortion. Also, this Executive Order has made it sure that it will remain so.
And don't frigging tell me Executive Orders have no power. An Executive Order ended slavery in the South. An Executive Order has the full force of law.
Why don't you and the retarded members of your worthless piece of shit ideology that those who destroy society must be left to fix it go read the fucking bill.
Go read the fucking bill and tell me where abortions are covered.
Find me a single clause, even through your credibility starved conservative propaganda sites, that gives federal funding for abortions except in cases of rape, incest, or health risks to the mother (which, in such cases, already are funded).
If you're all American, America is truly a fucked up nation: full of idiots and those who have no respect for reality, no ability to READ, and who will believe anything they are told by some petty politicians who put politics above policy, but will deny an EXECUTIVE ORDER MADE BY THE HIGHEST OFFICIAL IN THE LAND.
Go move to Somalia, anarchist piece of shit. You'll see how good no government is. Go get kidnapped by pirates and starve on the streets. Must be heaven to you.
Pro-Lifers have alot to say Abortion but nothing to say about the high Infant Motality rate in the USA
Irisheddy 1 year ago
Stupak is great
johnfox3 1 year ago 4
Not one dime from me!
BeantownJim 1 year ago
Like the "Kielbasa King", Ala the controversial "Kielbas Queen" Benishek?????????.
Tmetrvlr 1 year ago
Stupak: You can't fire me, I quit! Now that he has quit I have a question. He quit if you or I quit we can't get unemployment. Does he still get his Government benefits?
iamlostonearth 1 year ago
Go to fuckin' hell dipshit, I do believe we need government but more and more and more, give me a fuckin' break. Go right ahead and keep paying all that tax money to people with no drive and no goals, wasteoids just like you!!!!!
AllAmerican1964 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Those that are shouting out are out of order."
jassy345 1 year ago
Hey Bart....In November we will remember
VoiceOfReason61 1 year ago
Nafaidni, Lincoln's executive order did something because he won a massive war over it, because the EO itself changed something (as opposed to merely clarifying a law just passed), and because he (and most of the North) very much wanted to enforce it. We are not in anything like the same situation.
Shadowsire42 1 year ago
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Shadowsire42 1 year ago
(Cont'd from below) The idea that an EO necessarily has "the full force of the law, period" is just not tenable. It might, when the person ordering it wants to enforce it and has absolute power to do so; but when it's a weak clarification of a law that was just passed issued by someone who despises it and would love to avoid enforcing it, it counts for virtually nothing. At absolute most, it might cost President Obama a few political points if he quietly sweeps it under the rug.
Shadowsire42 1 year ago
Btw, I saw some conservative calling the retard who uploaded this a liberal because he put "slam" in the title.
Good job.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Again, stop acting like the Executive Order isn't a big deal. Stop acting like Stupak sold out.
The Executive Order has the full force of law; period.
If an Executive Order can end slavery, what makes you think that it can't prevent federal funding from being used to pay for abortions?
Right-wingers have been fooled by their masters into believing the left, the liberals, those who value the life of every individual, believe that abortions are a good thing.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Incredible. Stupak has lost his bitty mind. The Democrats are the party of protection for the unborn?!! 180 degrees wrong. It is unbelievable Stupak would even utter such obvious nonsense. Bizarro World has arrived. Up am down, Ugly am pretty.
stooben1 1 year ago
Here's a guy who has no choice but to convince himself he made the right choice, by going against his prior convictions. He's like the preacher preaching out loud trying to convince himself of his own sermon. My Mom was a Democrat, may her memory be eternal, and she would have voted his two-faced self . . . out of there! It would have had nothing to do with abortion at all. This ordeal just split his constituents votes down the middle. He now has to play Stupik. Have some balls!
O2H2D2 1 year ago
dems are toast ! liars ..betrayers...promising all..and delivering nothing but more big gov and taxes.... theyve done nothing for the minorities.. the reps did !
dasenuff 1 year ago
He is my new hero! He is a true pro-lifer, promoting all life. I admire his bravery and ideals.
fppmd2 1 year ago
@fppmd2 I agree with you. I don't know why so many people are saying he's pro-choice...It looks like many people are actually using the abortion debate to promote their party or political views rather than promote life. Stupak did a good job.
equitemcroce 1 year ago 2
@equitemcroce
It's because Republicants are angry that he's not a stupid wingnut with no principles.
They, even like me, to be honest, thought he was just a shill who would vote against the bill no matter what was added to it.
Only I expressed dislike of him for it while the right expressed satisfaction.
When he proved all of us wrong, our opinions re-polarized to the extreme. I grew extreme respect for his honesty and principles while the right resented him for it.
nafaidni 1 year ago
This guy's in a sad shape. Obama's a liar.
Most people WANT healthcare reform. MOST DO NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ABORTION AND THE ABORTION DEATHEATERS.
RondelayAOK 1 year ago
Bart Stupak is not pro abortion, you dumb ass.
MrClipper23 1 year ago
Why are you retards so bitchy about this anyway? Why would Democrats want to fund abortion? Most of them are rigidly against that, which is why they supported this amendment LAST TIME, when it wasn't proposed simply to derail the legislative process
You Republicants are blinded by your media and representatives (or should I say masters) who paint Obama and Democrats as abortion-junkies who can't pass a single bill without somehow adding abortion in there.
Just like death panels, this is a lie.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Stupak, you traded the lives of thousands of unborn babies for the repair of 3 airports, you are a disgusting man. You cannot call yourself pro life.
1776iscoming 1 year ago
@1776iscoming
Show me the clause in the legislation that allows any federal funds for abortion.
Once you find nothing, I'll show you the Executive Order, which has full force of law, btw.
The Emancipation Proclamation which ended slavery was an Executive Order. It had the full force of law. So does this one, reasserting the value of the unborn.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Thanks Bart, job well done!!!
blumag88 1 year ago
Why do liberals always use "slam" and "bash" in their video titles?
I can't wait until it's our turn to "slam" and "bash" and I'm not talking verbally either.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
LMG8S- Bring it motherfucker, you don't have the cojones to step up to the plate!!!
blumag88 1 year ago
@blumag88 Oh come on, we all know that people like me do.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
before the fat lady sings, she's gona need a free abortion.
ilwilis 1 year ago
Hope he spends those 30 pieces of silver wisely.
juniorjer 1 year ago 2
He sold out plain and simple. I hope he thinks his airport money is worth it.
ellaelizabeth 1 year ago
stupidpack, you could have done something good for the country but you caved like like a cheap suit. You never were a pro lifer or you would have never fallen for that trick. You are a noodle back man. No spine or strength of conviction. No balls just an empty scrotum
twopopsforsure 1 year ago
No one seems to know why Stupak suddenly gave in and accepted the senate bill's language after he spent months and months opposing it. Obama's executive order was the only thing, but considering that the EO is utterly meaningless and everyone knows it, Stupak's sudden change of heart remains unexplained.
Shadowsire42 1 year ago
@Shadowsire42
"but considering that the EO is utterly meaningless and everyone knows it, Stupak's sudden change of heart remains unexplained."
The Emancipation Proclamation was an Executive Order.
In 1962, Lincoln wrote it to proclaim that, within a year, any Confederate state would have all their slaves freed.
And was it meaningless? No, no it was not. The South became completely free because of it after the North won.
Executive Orders have the full force of law, period. Get over it.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Hahaha it seems to me the Replublicans are stooping to name calling smh whats next spit balls lol
ricyaboy 1 year ago
What a joke
bishopm5 1 year ago
Umm... What did he say that was wrong? He made sure that the government would not fund abortion, and continues to fight for the unborn... The republicans didn't do crap. The enraged uninformed tea-partiers have gotten so much press attention (which snowballs, and energises more uninformed wackos), that republicans are affraid to even suggest that reforming (out of control) health care might be a good idea.
stevenjbrant 1 year ago
An executive order cannot trump legislative law.
fortsmith1 1 year ago
@fortsmith1
Doesn't much matter, since the legislative law doesn't fund abortions, anyway. This order only reinforces that fact. Nothing in the law disagrees with the order, so trumping is not necessary.
And if you disagree, I BEG YOU to show me the clause that permits it in the law.
nafaidni 1 year ago
@nafaidni
It doesn't directly fund abortion but my understanding is that Plans that do cover abortion will be receiving federal money. This is the reason for the Executive order. My point was the order cannot modfiy law, hence the order is useless and in my opinion unconstitutional.
fortsmith1 1 year ago
Thank you for loving life from womb to grave.
jillleebean 1 year ago
It's about time someone stands up and tells the truth about the Republicans and their false sense of loyality to the Abortion issue. They pander it out there for all to think they are so supportive, when basically they are doing so for political gain. The likes of Jean Schmidt and John Boehner and what they spew out of their mouth. People are not stupid! But then again maybe they are.....
Sleek1313 1 year ago
@Sleek1313 Yeah, maybe they are...
stooben1 1 year ago
His son committed suicide and yet this monster still pushes on for the socialist utopia. Maybe it was best that his son didn't see what a spineless sellout his father was unless he knew and was part of what contributed to his son doing what he did.
Stupak is a horrible person and he sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver and proves almost all demonrats are the same and there is no such thing as a pro-life democrat.
BuckoFama007 1 year ago 2
I LOVE this.
Republicans continue to make themselves look completely ridiculous... like a bunch of trigger happy, stubborn babies.
marzieh 1 year ago
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BRAVO BART.
Thank you for putting the Republican back in their place.
PaulHartXYZ 1 year ago
BRAVO BART.
You put the Republicans back in their place.
THANK YOU.
PaulHartXYZ 1 year ago
Hey Bart -
How's it feel to have sold your soul for a bit or power and attention. Will you be able to handle to guilt of really being maybe the face of the ugliest thing we have ever seen because of YOU? Obviously your heart is void so I'm guessing it wont bother you. We as all men are flawed but you really take the cake....
jcincolo1 1 year ago
Health care for babies AFTER they are born? Boo! Hiss! Once they exit the womb their days of freeloading are over. Throw some bootie straps at them. Put them to work. No socialist post-natal care for them!
smathis98 1 year ago
"Those that are shouting out are out of order." LOL As if they were ever in order.
These Democrats are liars and thieves.
BBKlima 1 year ago 5
I am considering a move from the lower peninsula to the upper peninsula just so I can help vote this idiot out of office.
BBKlima 1 year ago
Well isn't this ironic
LopezCaro 1 year ago
despicable baby killer
EncompassedRunner 1 year ago
There is no public funding for abortion in this bill. Period.
This will save tens of thousands of lives a year. Good job, Democrats.
ord1711 1 year ago 3
LOL they passed the senate bill. Yes it does fund abortion. Not that the truth matters to democrats...
Stupak, you're nothing but a whore.
Reedasaurus 1 year ago 2
@Reedasaurus
Keep repeating talking points, Republican't. Won't change the truth any degree.
Show me a single part of the legislature that allows abortions. A SINGLE PART that defies previous law and allows abortion.
And once you don't find anything, I'll show you the Executive Order. Legislature might trump an Executive Order, but when there's nothing in the legislature at odds with an Executive Order, guess who wins?
nafaidni 1 year ago
Do you honestly think that this won't cover abortions. I'm sorry but you have been smoking some good stuff! You are just like the Obama minions who are fainting
at his sight, he is going to get the boot in 2012 and then you can go live in Cuba or North Korea if you wish you piece of shit socialist.
AllAmerican1964 1 year ago
@AllAmerican1964
Yes I do, you fucking idiot. Not only is it illegal for it to fund abortions already, it has absolutely no clause permitting abortion. Also, this Executive Order has made it sure that it will remain so.
And don't frigging tell me Executive Orders have no power. An Executive Order ended slavery in the South. An Executive Order has the full force of law.
Just shut up and get an education. Just shut up.
nafaidni 1 year ago
@AllAmerican1964
Why don't you and the retarded members of your worthless piece of shit ideology that those who destroy society must be left to fix it go read the fucking bill.
Go read the fucking bill and tell me where abortions are covered.
Find me a single clause, even through your credibility starved conservative propaganda sites, that gives federal funding for abortions except in cases of rape, incest, or health risks to the mother (which, in such cases, already are funded).
nafaidni 1 year ago
@AllAmerican1964
If you're all American, America is truly a fucked up nation: full of idiots and those who have no respect for reality, no ability to READ, and who will believe anything they are told by some petty politicians who put politics above policy, but will deny an EXECUTIVE ORDER MADE BY THE HIGHEST OFFICIAL IN THE LAND.
Go move to Somalia, anarchist piece of shit. You'll see how good no government is. Go get kidnapped by pirates and starve on the streets. Must be heaven to you.
nafaidni 1 year ago
@ord1711 There is public funding for baby killing now.
How are you going to "save lives" while instituting a fascist medical tyranny?
MillionthUsername 1 year ago
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Special place in hell for people like Stupak.
TheodoresWorld 1 year ago
219 "yea" votes = 9/12
whatliesintheshadow 1 year ago
So much for those "pro-life" democrats. Can you trust *any* Democrats anymore? Seriously?
corncat 1 year ago
This is a fucking circus. The Senate is so galvanized that it looks like Korea's senate...
luisfcayo 1 year ago
This is the House.
ord1711 1 year ago
Stupak is worse than Ben Nelson.
marzutraII 1 year ago