Drum Set Balancing Tips : Bass Drum Techniques

[ClarkKasheta]

This guy has good videos. His lessons fly over the heads of a lot of the more arrogant people on here. But he definitely knows what he's doing.

[LukesDrumsOnline]

the bass drum resonates soooooooooooooo much!!!!!!!!

[MaggotMuncher96]

his bass drum is way too small to get any quality in sound, his beater is positioned way too high up on the head of the drum, he did basically the correct heal toe, and he sucks at teaching

[duplacite]

@MaggotMuncher96 That's an 18-inch bass drum that jazz drummers use. His beater has to be positioned that high due to the relative sizes of the pedal and the BD. As for the sound, I think it sounds pretty nice for an 18".

This guy has played for 27 years and teaches drums, he's damn skilled and after watching his other video I'm even more sure about it. He doesn't suck at teaching, he probably had to make a short video because that's the set amount of time given to him by the filmmaker.

[flrbskate]

thank god for this guy he knows what hes talking aboutand all the critics,, hes showing the gist of what hes trying to say not go into the tricks and whatnot

[Theayto]

You look like the man from Superbad

[ubermoomer]

what drumset is that cuz i like the look of the red



[gitarhiro]

same drums :D

[ubermoomer]

@gitarhiro what set is it?



[gitarhiro]

@ubermoomer ludwig lc 315

[Malamacha]

They should have a "How to suck at drumming " video...

[NolikargAven]

@Malamacha All their videos are about it muhahah

[0ryuk]

love the iron cobra .. ^^

[Warkive]

Congratulations most of you. You've managed to band together and troll something that while admittedly it isn't the best instruction out there, it certainly isn't worthy of a lynch mob.

[JESDRUMS1994]

i wonder when these guys are gonna give up, they have more dislikes than likes, do yourself a favor and stop embarassing yourselves lmao

[Maatdrummer1]

The problem with American drummers these days is they think they know everything, and you can't tell them anything without them acting like they know it all. So, why even bother looking at a video, guys. You obviously are John Bonham reincarnated. More practice!

[mrinosent1]

wut r them clamps on your bass drum

[Extuder]

wtf

[jimiskinglivecouk]

He looks like the guy from superbad, the one who ran over seth xD

[MaggotMuncher96]

GOOD JOB GENEOUS!!! YOU FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO HEEL TOE!!!

[MonkeyMan214]

Dude, MUFFLE YOUR DRUM!! :l

[ThoseGuysCommentary]

This guy's in a band? Oh Lord...

[OCDP187]

@Anonymous6355 Bass drums aren't supposed to sound like tympani's

[OCDP187]

I don't think I've ever heard a kick drum with a ping to it before..

[teundrumhead]

the whole 'expertvillage'concept is just bullshit.

[avisupchurch]

That last stroke doesn't even do what he says it's supposed to... the beater still stays pushed into the head for too long and he gets the muted sound anyway.

[alibarnes94]

How about instead of 'throwing your heal down' you just get a bit quicker with your feet and move it off quickly?

[sk8terboi499]

those drum heads r nasty they sound like hitting a box...

[grandolddrummer]

Every time I watch an expertvillage video I think to myself, "they can't all be terrible." Expertvillage, you have proven me wrong yet again.

[aileanwazere]

cough* expert village sucks*

[WhereverYouTakeMe]

omg why hi won't centre his pedal to hit the bass drum in the center.

[XxSharkBatexX]

@WhereverYouTakeMe That's because the soundwaves spread out from where you hit the head, bounce against the rim and return. If you hit the bass drum it in the centre, it'll mute the sound, making it sound like some kind of cheap tom, whereas hitting it just under or above the centre will give you the nice, deep boomy sound that a bass drum is supposed to make (although that's not quite the case with this one, I'll admit that).

[ffc14]

that lengt of the bassdrum is very long!!

[khendriks1]

@maxinodavid- You "oftenly" can't spell often.

[w9jon]

this is the only expert village dude i like

[billybobjoe1997]

THIS SUCKS CRAP (no offense dude. that is fairly fast).

[speedlightnin]

it sounds cool sometimes. you probably wouldn't be able to tell in most punk.

who wants a mute note on a snare drum?

[XxSharkBatexX]

@maxinodavid And you, sir, suck at spelling, grammar, punctuation and modesty. I suggest you try doing what they do, and doing it better.

[maxinodavid]

@XxSharkBatexX are you defending these suckers? or are you one of them? seriously, they suck...no offense dude...if you really want to learn bass drum techniques, id say you watch John Blackwell's DVD... EXPERTVILLAGE?? i think its USELESSVILLAGE

[findapulse]

I think there's a time and place for everything. Most teachers probably teach "don't bury the beater," but I've found there are times where that's what you want (don't take my word for it--plenty of pros bury it when they want that sound). As far as the "ringing" that results from not burying the beater, that also has its place, and usually results in getting the full resonance of the drum. Useful in jungle, jazz, and in some studio environments to give the engineer something to work with.

[martinlaporte2]

I've been playing heel-up for 26 years and

i always release the beater off the head.

Much bigger and fatter sound. Heel-up or heel-down, you have to let your beater bounce off the head if you want a rounder and fatter sound. Basic stuff!!!

[ollietrix]

@martinlaporte2 i use heel up and heel down both releasing the beater and burying it, all at different times. it gives more dynamic and choice when you can control it, i think people should be open-minded to all styles and experiment a bit instead of just using 1 exact kick sound for 26 years.

[inbing]

the fucker's village

[mafouger]

hahahaha expert village still sucks

[DDrummr41]

your bass drum sounds like poop...fix that.

[SmurfDrums310]

hahaha poop

[daynedrums]

i suck at playing heal down

[GGFan]

The beater is set too high and the drum needs to be tuned -

[RunawayDrummer12345]

@GGFan  yeah i never undersood why expert village always has crappy drum sets. and the players usualy suck

[daynedrums]

i think it might look higher because the bass drum is kinda small, im guessing 18' and yea it does need to be tuned

[1bass]

Ooooo. You have an Iron Cobra.

[googenshlagen]

It's a pretty small bass drum.

Still is a little out of tune, but still. It'll sound more like that.

[comanderstupid]

i dont think its out of tune i think the tom is resonating with it but he should move the beater down to the sweet spot of the drum

[Bashy14]

i play heel down the whole time and have ever since ive been playing. I use a pearl eliminator double pedal and can play almost any tempo, and i mean stuff like unearth opeth etc. Its possible to get enough power with the foot down technique to play in live scenarios isnt it?

[skinmasher]

Yes. If you're practiced enough you can achieve the same power and precision with any technique

[BlkLion0726]

The toms are resonating from the bass drum. That is why it sounds that way.

[AwesomeSauce714]

is it me or is that bass drum out of tune?

[stumptohendrix]

yeah, it doesnt sound too good. haha

[timas951]

its you xD joke I agree this bass drumm sucks

[AlphaCentauri00]

Why does every "expert" at expert village not tune their equipment?

[VenomCoB]

@AlphaCentauri00  xD i agree

[drummerkingmike]

That third technique - if you actually want any benifit from it you reall have to release the beater quicker than that... He's still burying the beater for a good half a sec or so, therefore still muting the sound. Should be a really instant thing.

[spazzy50]

It's not hard to keep the beater from going into the head while playing heel up. You don't need to go straight to heel down to get it to resonate. Just need to develop better foot control.

[Nato61]

Give me 10 minutes with that bass drum and I'll fix the sound

[swampycricket]

yes, it takes time to take time tuning the bass drum. shouldn't sound like paper, needs a full strong low tone.

[scopchanov]

@Nato61 You can't.

Correct me if I am wrong, but to me it looks like Hipgig by Yamaha. I am not very sure about the exact brand/model, but it is certain, that you can disassemble the bass drum in two pieces. Such idiotic inventions just don't sound well. Furthermore he is playing it from the wrong side (if it is a Hipgig after all). And to make things worse, the pedal is too far away from the head, causing the drummer to put too much effort for these extra centimeters.

[TheRealAxelFury]

I tried recently a pedal BOA, it was sorta of an axis, but less expensive and more balanced!

I possess a twin iron Cobra Power glide, and i find it fantastic.

DW in general have more resistance but this means also it tend to fatigue your feet more, but at the end, i believe that out there, there is always a pedal perfect for anyone of us.

[gitarmanmyactv]

try the new pearl demon drives. i played them at a guitar center and they are awesome, except their pretty expensive.

[SuperGilbs]

or dampen it just a bit

[v11drummer]

Iron Cobra's suck.

[quackbeef]

no they don't, they are excellent. axis pedals are good too, if you like a really thin footboard

[v11drummer]

Iron Cobra's and Axis pedals both are very suck-ish and over priced.

[quackbeef]

then what do you like to use?

[v11drummer]

DW5000

[quackbeef]

no wonder you don't like the feel of iron cobras or axis. dw 5000s have absolutely no resistance at all, they feel vastly different from the other two brands. i like the iron cobra because they have the right amount of resistance and a solid footboard.

[v11drummer]

i don't know man, I feel like both of those pedals are way too easy to push down. I feel like DW pedals make me feel like I'm putting in effort when i play.

[Laurenan69]

they may be overprized ( axis ) but they are not " suckish "

[MrKodave81]

that bass drum sounds horrible!

get a drumkey man!!!

or maybe a pair of ears:))))

[SouthOfHeaven33]

iron cobras

[Drumfreak5612]

alright pretty much all expert village drummers are shit!!!!

[tdscotland17]

SHUT UUUUUUUUP!

[propernutrition]

not to be a youtube critic but i'm pretty sure you can just play heel up without holding the beater on the head like every other generic rock drummer who knows any thing about anything.

[duplacite]

@propernutrition Yes that is possible but everyone has their own approach to their foot techniques. You'll find most dual-kick metalcore guys will bury their beaters in, same with most other generic neighbourhood rockstar drummers.

Of the many tutors I studied under so far, none of them buried their beaters in. But none of them play death metal either. And all my death metal friends bury their beaters in...

[BLdrummer740]

The toms are resonating ... it's not the bass. BUT; you need to get a different pedal for that kick drum. Your beater is TOO high; you'll go through the head!

[BigNickontheDrum]

yea it would sound better if the beater were striking near the center

[riddlemynn]

dude i know you, your from drummerworld :D

[drummerdude712]

dude. tune that bass head before doing more vids. k?

[ThatMadeMeLmao]

feathering has no purpose

[drummerdude712]

wat about jazz drumming? the basic time in jazz has soft quarter notes being played on the bass while the highhat is being placed on the second and fourth notes and keeping a swung eighth note pattern on the ride cymbol.

[OnTheRoof1]

lol er... yes it does.

[Timmyinc44]

You're an idiot.

[crazykinoflongboards]

yea what kinda kit is that

[Carks128]

anyone know what kind of kit he has? i like how it isn't glossy.

[gnialf]

haha good call moron... but it is called a BASSdrum ;)

[gnialf]

bass drum ? what happened to bass ? haha

[FragileBandSweden]

jazz u idiot

[renquist13]

wow. i dont know what gigs he is talking about. them drums are muted. and that "new" technique looks like a pain

[NintendoMegaDrive]

i hate my pedal i cant go fast with it

[Drummerforlife98]

what do you have?

[NintendoMegaDrive]

what do you meen ???

[Drummerforlife98]

Im asking what pedals you have....

[NintendoMegaDrive]

premier

[espChris93]

oh crap i clicked an expertvillage vid haha

[AHillFL]

i know exactly what your talking about its so easy to get trapped in this village filled with idiots.

[wizkid6000]

hahaha wtf ive been drumming like a year and i was using that "new" technique of his

[DannyJvideos]

thats the horriblest bass drum in the world

[aerozeplyn]

im guessing you mean it sounds horrible. and yea, it does sound pretty horrible, but considering all of the drums are muted.... i dont think the sound exactly matters in that setup.

[DannyJvideos]

probs XD

[VampireZach]

@DannyJvideos and you probably have the worlds most horrible grammar

[circleslammer]

@VampireZach right on dude, horriblest is not a fucking word! if someone is going to make a comment, they should sound like an educated person!!

[philip3441]

@DannyJvideos thats the worst language in the world, hahahahaha

[musicman387]

to let the drum sustain don't let the beater stay on the head you idiot.

[chambers1013]

haha your right mate its just common sense, these expert village fags are soo useless haha

[NintendoMegaDrive]

i cant play single bass im only good with double

[Allinthewrist1]

Im Sure the ring is from the batter toms overtune

[gunnnzz]

Where is that ring coming from? GEEZE!

[willlovestodrum132]

well im sure thats very helpful, but the bass drum sounds shit.

[PIRTEKM3]

You all seemed to be freaked about the size of the kick and the sound. It's a Jazz kit that's why. Before you rip the kit, try playing Jazz on a 22"24"or 26" kick. It will sound horrible and out of place.

[ben80s08]

if he likes that sound then go for it its always what the taste are no body are going to have same taste

[Rezzy214]

Yu said it bro

[retardedbloke]

WHY ARE U USING A TOM AS A BASS DRUM.

[beastrevor]

lol its just a tiny ass bass silly

[timas951]

but it sounds like a tom xD

[gh3heroboi]

actually, thats not really all. If the pedal is hitting the center, it gets rid of ring. if its not at the center, it does add ring. but there is also not enough dampening

[jba1995]

no, the ring has to do with the head resonance. e-z fix, put a felt strip across the batter head and/or sound head.

same drum sound, with alomost zero muting.

[Darkcloud9071]

your not suppose to mute your sound heel up lol, suppose to let off on the pedal when you strike it

[toddy1968]

thats a 16" bass drum. That butterfly clip is so you can separate the bass drum and flor tom and stack all of the drums inside each other. Very cool.

[Rockbandrules35]

Sounds like hes hitting cardboard lol

[luiscandia10]

el bonbo suena raro , no

[PipoBones]

its sounds like crap dats how it sounds like

[dozzyozzy12]

uuhh ur bass doesnt sound like a bass

[tamaplayer22]

that's only because the snare drum isin't there. if you dont believe me try it yourself, just move your snare drum

[alf1441]

nah man, it just wasnt tuned

[eXdXgXe4life]

look at the size of it, its a catalina set. It's supposed to sound that high pitch....newbs

[etherealeyes]

also mind it could be the mic, sounds like the sound is being low-pass and high pass filtered so the boominess is taken out...of course not on purpose lol

[realgdrummer]

his pedal isnt even lined up right thts why it has a slight dull ring afterwards

[terrifiedcoin]

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[paacko92]

nice (: