GH1 vs HF10 Comparison! HD Superwide & Bilingual Closed Captions

[NewAgeDirector]

Great video keep up the good work.

[Hikosaemon]

@NewAgeDirector Thank you kindly!

[Panimate]

興味深いですね、ビデオで特化したはずのパナソニックのdslr­と写真に特化したはずのCanonのビデオカメラを比較って、違­和感を感じさせるのも、おおっ！そういうところ突つくのか！って­言う感じにもなりますね、逆にパナソニックのビデオカメラとCa­nonのdslrを比較するのはあまりにも面白くないものなのか­な？(⌒-⌒; )

[kymsaaaa]

大変参考になりました。　ありがとうございます。

またGH1と他機種の比較をして頂けたら嬉しいです

[zhangsimeng]

まあ画質では　言うまでもなくＧＨ１のほうがいいけど　ＨＦ１０の方が映画みたいでいいと思う

[Suharry]

日本語がところどころ理解できないw

Good thing I understand English ^_^;

[ngvgnDOTcom]

I really like the GH1 and the Canon 5D. I love Japan it's like a big store for geeks. LOL

[Joni0001984]

I am worried 720p@60p will be video quality, as the HF10 or worse, and 1080p@24p too slow. Suddenly someone moves and the shot is ruined!

[MrMalthus80]

Once again the gh1 shows what an amazing camera it is. You need to go to the 5d mark 2 to beat it, but i appreciate you dont have one of them. It was a good comparison video as it effectively showed the differences between the cameras you use.

[Hikosaemon]

@MrMalthus80 I seriously considered the Canon 7d. Both it and the 5d have a huge sensor that shoots gorgeous video in low light. In the end of the day though, more than the price and excellent video customization features, the feature I loved most about the GH1 was the articulated viewfinder. It seems gimmicky, but it changes the entire experience of using the camera, for video or photography. This year, I'll try do make some more vids showing off what it can do :)

[BigCarKilla]

@Hikosaemon And not to forget - The GH1 has the worlds most accurate and inteligent automaitc mode (Ai) and will also autofocus while shooting video. The same unfortunantely cant be said for the 5D MkII. Not to mention that from today, the cost of a GH1 with video lens is now HALF the price of a 5D MkII body alone!

[Hikosaemon]

@BigCarKilla Good points. For me the articulated viewfinder on the GH1 is huge as well, it changes the whole user experience. But still, the beautiful full sensor of the 5D always makes it win out for the dead serious camera pros. I'm more than happy with my GH1 though ;)

[BigCarKilla]

@MrMalthus80 And not to forget - The GH1 has the worlds most accurate and inteligent automaitc mode (Ai) and will also autofocus while shooting video. The same unfortunantely cant be said for the 5D MkII. Not to mention that from today, the cost of a GH1 with video lens is now HALF the price of a 5D MkII body alone!

[ngvgnDOTcom]

I like the Panasonic better, But the outside shoots with green I think I like the Canon.

To tell you the truth it's not the camera but the person taking the pictures. That's not to say but any camera. But if I had to pick I go with Panasonic now.

[Hikosaemon]

@ngvgnDOTcom The main issue with the GH1 is its poor stabilization. For video it is basically a tripod only camera, although I recently got a solution I will soon try out for that :)

The specialized camcorders are made for handheld shooting, and so that is something to remember. But the Panasonic is just a magic camera. Interchangeable lenses, and photos and camcorder features just open up entire new worlds...

[videouzleg]

Great comparison! Lately I too began too fall in love with Panasonic cameras.

[mugupo10]

hf10 is down to $400 in my local shop.

[CINECAMARATV]

GH1 will always beat any HD camcorder with up to 1/3" single cmos ship, simply because its chip is 12.1 megapixels; specially in low light. It will even beat the TM300, HMC70, HMC40, FX7 in low light situations. But the GH1 has to used with very slow panning and in static scenarios. No fast movements because its autofocus is not that fast and it tends to go out of focus. You also cannot see VU meters, or control audio settings, so by faith you hope that your audio is good.

[Hikosaemon]

I still use the HF10 and lately have figured out some good night settings. The key isn't so much making it bright, as getting the noise out and getting clear blacks, which I recently found some good settings for. More recent models address this issue that the HF10 had in its automatic settings. Good point about the sound with the GH1 - I got the external mic but have hardly used it yet.

Peace

[mugupo10]

It should compare to top market hd camcorder like camcorder tm300 which can manual focus.

[Hikosaemon]

I'm stuck with what I have. The HF10 is my old camera, and the GH1 is my new camera. I would love to do a review of two equivalent cameras, but I can only work with what I have. HF10 is a good camera, but weak in low light (later models improved this) - I think this vid showed that.

Peace

[127volts]

both shots are 1080? cause it seems there is some loss whem you converted HF10 regarding details... if GH1 is 720, sure the conversion step is diferent so with diferent results...

[Gimmeaflakeman]

Amazing footage! I WANT!

[Meowbay]

Oh and you set the white-balance wrong for the HF10, clearly. Not a fair comparison.

[Hikosaemon]

Again, no. I had both cameras set on all auto settings. I also clearly mention in the sidebar that normally you would adjust those settings yourself. It just seemed the best way to do the comparison.

I do however admire your passionate defense of the HF10. I still love the camera and plan to go on using it as it remains better to use than the GH1 under many circumstances. It's just a simple side by side. Nothing to get upset about.

Peace

[Meowbay]

Yeah, the GH1 is about double the price of an HF10, and almost 2 years newer, so yeah, what a bullshit comparison.

[Hikosaemon]

Erm, no. Check the links in the sidebar. You can pick up a GH1 lens kit in Japan currently for less than an HF10.

[Meowbay]

These are just cameras here, not

"lens kits", and no, the Canon HF10 will cost you around $750 new now, while the GH1 will cost you at least $1300. Go check ebay, amazon or cnet for a better indication of current world pricing schemes.

And yes, the HF10 is 2 years older. Nice comparison there, NOT.

[cametiii]

Clearly GH1, no doubt.

[mostawesomestjes]

do both cameras you use take still shots? I saw the shots on facebook that you took at the wedding. They are amazing. I am looking for a new video camera that can also take nice still shots (or vice versa) as my camera was stolen T-T. The GH1 video was always very rich in colors and beautiful! Thanks for the comparison!

[Thatguyfox]

GH1 hands down. Especially since you can still take still images with it at very high quality

[APOKALYPSE34]

Excellent photos first off!

I kind of like the GH1 better it clearer I think. As for sound i would love to know which would be best in the city with all the sound coming at you.

[trmtn]

すごいですね！+

ザクティーを比較しているころからいていましたが

こんなにたくさんビデオカメラ買って大丈夫なんですか･･･?

[ck1film]

Very cool! Loved the music as well.

[denitson777]

Gh1 wins landslide,hands down ! :)

[purphanz]

yup

[yumyumsesame]

The colour on the GH1 is amazing. When the bride and groom are signing the register you switched from the HF10 to the GH1 and all of a sudden it felt like I was really there!

[stargateheaven23]

What do you do with your old cameras? give it to meee :D

[grooveonchan]

Thanks for including my song in your work... I like how you put it to those chil slides, it's a nice match that makes the song look more classy, haha... ;)

[TheDutchGaijin]

Holy crap, where is the color on the HF10

GH1 has much more detail, on the HF10 you can sometimes see the pixel-changes.

I wish I had a camera like that man ...

[iFukuyama]

even on youtube, there's a significant difference. the guitar hero looks just so much better~

[kakera]

I definitely think that the GH1 has much more vivid colour and seems sharper generally! the GH1 also takes amazingly beautiful photographs. *jealous*

[Hikosaemon]

Haha, I love my GH1, and my GH1 loves me.

It's a beautiful thing ;)

Peace

[thatjapanesegirl]

Wow. このあいだNikon D90をかりて、とって見たところ、ビデオカメラでは撮れない感­じの映像がとれたので、ちょうど考えていたところです。

[Hikosaemon]

うん、やっぱり全然違うよね。

ただ、腕をちょっと上手にしないとね・・・

まぁ、もっと勉強したくさせるね。

レンズは確かにこんなに面白いとは、予想していなかった。

Peace

[5dArK5sOuL5]

I would go for GH1

[kioka2009]

I have A HF100, color is very strange

[Firefly25252]

I've been saying I wanted this camera since it came out! I want it more for the video quality than anything else but yes for those of us who are good with vid but not so good with still photos this camera will give you something to do and learn! :-) I need to save up a bit more before I can spend any money on it.

[Hikosaemon]

I think you're like me, I wanted it for the video too, but it is a great way for people like us to jump into the scary world of photography as well, knowing we are not losing any of the video we like! The price is still dropping on this, but I think at under a grand US already with the lens kit, it is already a pretty good buy.

Peace

[Firefly25252]

^^ Yes I think I will try to find a deal online for this, but I'm also needed a new computer so I may have to wait on this camera! but I hope you post more interesting video with it. I'm so in love with the GH1 lol

also post more photos when you take them!

[MicknFumi]

Love that traffic pic at 3.27...The GH1 wins in artificial light conditions, but the HF10 has vibrant colour outdoors at 2.42, almost too vibrant, but nicer to look at, even if the GH1 may have a crisper picture. But editing would probably bring up vibrancy & the GH1 would then win again...Nice to see Meiji, again. I was there 15/9/08 for my sis in laws wedding, maybe you were there on the same public holiday this year?

[Hikosaemon]

Ha, quite possibly the same holiday there! I've been in Japan nearly 11 years, but this was my first ever Japanese style wedding it it was magic to watch. Cheers mate!

[MicknFumi]

Yeah they're pretty cool...was really interesting when you all march off into the little shrine area, where the budist priest & traditional dancers do their thing for the ceremony. Wish I'd got footage of that, but my father in law told me to leave my camera...cheers : )

[DeeDoubleYou81]

SLR... Hands down! Great comparison! I'm thinking about upgrading my camera to a Canon D-SLR that will also shoot HD video. You just convinced me that I should!

[Hikosaemon]

I have seen jaw dropping amazing vids shot with Canon DSLRs and really agonized over getting one myself. Without question, they are the best quality you can get in video for under 3 grand. I went with the GH1 mainly for the autofocus, dedicated video functionality, light-weight, lower price, and most of all, the articulated viewfinder that allows you to shoot... yourself. A bit narcissitic I know, but without a film crew, it is a big difference. Go for the Canon though, I want to see!

[DeeDoubleYou81]

Hmmm... The Nikon D5000 has an articulated LCD screen... seems like a nice thing to have! I'm fairly partial to Canon though... I'll let you know what I get :)

[kenkengaugau]

画質の比較だったらデジカメに軍配が上がるのは仕方ないね。

[Hikosaemon]

まぁ、ビデオカメラは手ぶれとオートフォーカス、ズームの機能の­すべてで勝つけど安定した所から撮影をするなら、確かにデジカメ­は負けませんね。

Peace

[psychomelody]

Damn you! I want one of those so badly! It looks amazing!

[Hikosaemon]

Mate, thank YOU for putting me onto this camera to begin with. It looks great!

Peace

[psychomelody]

I want commission, then! 100%!

Heh. Well, If I could sell all my cameras and buy one of those I would, Problem is, I have too many HDV tapes and would need my Sony to read them.

[Hikosaemon]

Tape is still a great quality format to work with - it is just that capturing before editing is such a pain...

Your commission will be 100% of my eternal gratitude for putting me onto this BEAST of a camera!

Cheers mate!

[gripapple]

画質きれいですね。

それについてお値段も・・・

コスパがよいカメラがあればこれからも

ご紹介ください。

[Hikosaemon]

今度Hikotalkチャネルで感想を話そうと思っています。

今Xacti、HF10、GH1を使っていて、それぞれ良いとこ­ろがあるので、多分答えられると思います。

是非紹介させていただきます！

Peace

[gripapple]

ありがとうございます。

私もHikoさんの紹介でＣＡ－８を購入しました。

[thegakuranman]

Looks wonderful man! I am jealous of that 14-140mm lens you have with the GH-1. If I had the money I'd get one for my E-P1 ^^. Btw, who and how did did you make your Hikosaemon intro section for all you videos?

[Hikosaemon]

Mate, I might bug you a bit about how you designed your own splash page on your website. The amaaaazing intro was sent to me out of the blue by an old Japanese friend who stumbled across my YT channel and decided to make it for me.

The 14-140mm lens is cool, but I can tell you I have spent nearly all my time playing with the beautiful 20mm F1.7 pancake lens that I got as an extra. It probably shoots a lot like the E-P1, another great little camera!

Peace

[nexviper223]

発色に違いがありますねぇ。

写真もとても素晴らしいと思います。

もっと写真みたいです＾＾

[Hikosaemon]

ありがとうございます！

俺も大変満足をしています。

写真を乗っかるブログを今検討しているけどとりあえず、自分のF­acebookドットComスラッシュHikosaemonのペ­ージで撮る写真を載せますね。

是非、チェックしてください！

Peace

[siolor]

The GH1 quality picture looks much higher then the other. But this SLR is little bit slow with it auto focus then the dedicated camcorder camera.

[Hikosaemon]

Very true, the real downsides of the GH1 as a video camera are the slower autofocus, and the shakiness (you really need to fix the camera on a tripod to take good video with it). However, one nice thing is that you can use shallow lenses and manual focus to have better control (when you get used to it, which I have yet to do) and really get some very cool cinemagraphic looks... I can't wait to start showing off more of what this camera can do, but the HF10 definitely still has its place.

Peace

[Ido013]

Definitely GH1, now I'm starting to cry because I should've bought a SLR instead of a point and shoot :( It's so much better than what I got...

[Hikosaemon]

I have other friends who went through the same process and got good point and shoots, and there's a lot of merit to it - highly automated, more compact, good video and photos, lower price, and ones like the Canon Powershoot do pretty well. But the SLR is indeed a whole different class (even if technically, the GH1 is an interchangable lens camera, rather than a pure SLR - something to do with prisms and lenses true SLRs use internally).

Peace

[Ido013]

Oh i see that I'm not alone, though you're right, the only thing that makes me regret it, is the fact that we can't change the zoom whenever we take a video, at least with the Lumix DMC-FX500.. Well I'm not too disappointed by the quality, you are spot on about that.

[BusanKevin]

the GH-1 takes such beautiful pictures. Really amazing!

[Hikosaemon]

It's an amazing difference to me, although for pure shooting of other subjects, I really agonized over going for a Canon 7D. I'm pretty happy with how this turned out though, it's something new to learn!

[myargonauts]

obvious winner in this test is the GH1.

Is this the same new camera that Chris at StreetEnglishTV just made a video about?

It takes amazing images for a "non-video" camera.

[Hikosaemon]

Hey Jas! Yes indeed, this is indeed the same camera that Chris now uses for StreetEnglishTV. I was first put onto this by Psychomelody many months ago, and I mentioned this camera to him not longafter. Tokyocooney's advice on camera also was that it is all about the lens on the camera, which is why these SLRs work so great. For various reasons, now was just the right time for me to persuade my wife we needed an eigth camera...

Peace

[redmuzam]

gh1

[chrishimself84]

Good comparison video Hiko! sound quality seems okay too, does it have an external mic. input ? personally I'm going to wait what the guys from RED (Camera) will have ready for the consumer level :) Until now I'm working with a HG20 by Canon.

[Hikosaemon]

It has an external mic (2.5mm) input, and there is a mic accessory that I got, but didn't use on this (I thought the sound was pretty good as is, actually). Overall, I'm still a big fan of the Canons, I think their picture quality is unrivalled (7D and 5D dSLR video is amazing), but the GH1 is such a great package, and the adjustable viewfinder in particular sealed the deal for me.

Peace

[staticbb]

absolutely beautiful video. Easily the most beautiful i've seen on youtube.

[Hikosaemon]

Hehe, even with all the filtering and conversion, DSLR shot video shines through on YouTube. Glad to hear you like it. It makes me want to find stuff to show it off!

Peace

[6663000]

GH1

[krumbine]

I'm only watching it in HQ and the GH1 still looks incredible.

[Hikosaemon]

Yep, cameras like the Panasonic GH1 and the Canon 7D/5D basically now offer ordinary people the chance to shoot professional quality video. I luuuuurve this camera ;)

Peace

[shenmue2951]

The GH1 looks amazing! Especially the still images. They made me hungry!!! LOL. Can't wait to see you use the GH1 more in your videos. :D

[Hikosaemon]

Hehe, it sounds like I'll need to shoot some more vids with it then!

I also liked how the vid came out in the new superwide format YouTube is allowing.

[mitch17315]

gh1 is the best because its less blured and and the colours are nicer.

[Hikosaemon]

I tend to agree, although the focus is not as fast on the GH1, but I like having manual control on that.

Peace

[smiley62]

GH1

[tsjoencinema]

You don't use automatic settings if you know your camera!

[myargonauts]

he explains why he did this in the sidebar, and it makes sense for a comparison video like this one.

[Hikosaemon]

To tell the truth, I think I was playing with the settings a bit as I took the GH1 footage. It's hard not to, but I'll work on getting smart with those settings now.

Cheers!

[Degenskonto]

Insanely beautiful pictures.

Keep em comin'!

[Hikosaemon]

Until I figure out a good way to set up a dedicated blog, I will post my photos taken with the camera on Facebook, which you can see by just adding my username after typing in the Facebook URL ;)

Peace

[7thwave42]

The colours on the GH1 are much better, the orange the girls are wearing outdoors really pops.

Funny thing is, the week after i get back to Japan my friend is getting married and i think i might be videoing it. Hope she has a decent camera haha

Cheers man.

[Hikosaemon]

I like the vibrant colours as well, although of course the colours can be adjusted on either camera in the camera or by post processing. But still, I'm used to seeing the same difference comparing my HF10 to my Xacti for example, but this is another jump. A good camera definitely makes a big difference.

[NegatioNZor]

I think they're at their best in different situations, as far as i can see by watching youtube right now. The GH1 seem to bring forth more vibrant colors in the start, yet it seems to have less lively colors when you're filming the people standing on the grass.

However, the zoom on the HF10 seems kinda nice. But i can only tell you the obvious differences via youtube tbh :P

Gratz on the new camera though! :D

[Hikosaemon]

Cheers mate! To tell the truth, I think some of those shots, I may have been fiddling a bit with the GH1 settings (I'm still learning my way around it). The main thing I'm looking forward to is seeing it in HD cinemascope when it is done processing ;)

Peace