You know guys just chill out , if u have found out that your ancestors was part of something great be proud of it , Dont go takin crap of others . What ever great things that was introduced to this world it was a contrubution of many civilitazation not one. If your think u great today , think again becouse here today gone tomorrow. No matter if your Indian , Chinese , Greek , pakistani,English we have the same fucked up brain that is evident in this page. .... : )
@palan2676 I am sure he is an internet troll. Well I don't have time on my hands to sit and play a mud slinging match with him. I don't give a shit about the past as I am not part of it. I would rather concentrate on the present and the future.
@angryaznman I find it hilarious that you are going all over the youtube trying to troll Indians :P I am an Indian and I know that we can are still a long way to go before we become a super power. But a Greek guy belittling us Indians is a bit of a joke in my humble opinion. Though I am not a proud Indian like the many who have replied to you, the world knows that India has contributed heavily in different fields of excellence.
ps: You Greeks have more important things to do then troll here
@jensonpais its a joke because 1. your historical texts refer to greeks to be revered as GODS. and 2. alexander the great curb stomped indians too easily.
@angryaznman@angryaznman Ha Ha what do you mean stomped the Indians. He struggled to beat a local ruler called Porus. Well Alexander the Great was great conqueror. Also enough of your Greek fist pumping as at the moment a beggar is better off than Greece !!! Live in the present. I hate when my fellow Indians keep harping about our past glories before the British arrived as we are doing well now in the present and we are only going to get better. I know you cannot say the same about Greece :|
@jensonpais LMFAO half of alexanders animals and men died crossing the mountains and he STILL conquered kingdom after kingdom. he even installed PUPPET GREEK kingdoms in india. you should be grateful the greeks were not closer to india and that the romans never cared to conquer india.
but regardless, the mughals ended up doing it anyway.
@shubroto81 ehh you need to look at a map some time. not really southern india. at least not half and half. more like the southern tip. you should be grateful for the muslims. they built india's most famous landmark. taj mahal.
@angryaznman mughals never conquered southern india, u need some geography lessons. Secondly muslims destroyed tons of hindu monuments as well, u should be grateful that your past is hazy and that u know nothing about religion or spirituality except what u read.
@shubroto81 90% of what is india now was conquered by mughals. get it straight. you keep saying southern india but its really just that little tip at the end.
@angryaznman nope not really..u are wrong..the southern empire was a hindu empire. The sikh empire also resisted the mughals infact they went all the way to afghanistan. Secondly the tibetan budhist monks, the ones really interested in budhism and meditation..not just political ones..looked towards india for spiritual guidance not china. Like i said many of them lost their lives travelling deep into india to learn the untainted, un-corrupted, un- influenced teachings of the budha.
@shubroto81 no im not. anyone who googles "Mughal Empire" can see maps of its size. the simple fact is the greatest indian empire, was Muslim. the only bigger was British India, but that was a colony.
@angryaznman No it wasn't. Secondly the mughal empire wasn't indian. IT was on indian soil but not indian..later on it adopted a lot of indian characteristics as does any empire when it moves to a diff location. Budha was born in the hindu kingdom of nepal but he attained enlightenment in india, so most of his teachings were given in india.
@angryaznman and tibetan budhist monks Never travelled to china but to the heart of india to learn budhas core messages to take it back to tibet. Even today in southern part of india..esp bangalore there are many tibetan refugees found..that have tibetan monastries.
@angryaznman well you are wrong as the Mughals never managed to conquer the whole of India. India is a big country divided on the basis of language,caste,creed back in those days too. The Mughals failed to conquer the South. That is the reason why the British and the Portuguese managed to land in the South and the British succeeded in taking over India. I do agree that you are correct about King Fu's birth but you are wrong when it comes to Indian history.
@angryaznman yes i agree with your opinion "NO country sells China high tech stuff" bcoz there is no need for them to buy things from others they just steal others technology and create a product of their own. they are able to do that so succesfully just because there are a few dumb idots like you to believe what they say. you dumb MF
you are so delusional. the US has veto China to join the ISS for years. now all of a sudden NASA chiefs consider working with China because CHina copied them?
@angryaznman i know that your greece government is going to cut off all the benifits that you lazy fuckers were enjoying till now. dont worry if each and every single indian who lives in the so called slum pays 10 rupees for a lazy greeks like you then that enough for you to pay back all your debt. first pay your debt without write off, then you lazy fuckers can talk about our country. MF
@martysgotmail301 why do you post in such an ugly language to me. you know you are using ROMAN characters right? yet another blessing greco roman civilization gave to the world.
including the damn computer you are using and the internet.
@angryaznman chinna ati does not mean china ati. chinna means Small in tamil and malayalam. stop interpreting your own ideas. and stop being ignorant. we know you chinese does not own anything you just copy every thing right from american military tech to wiping your own ass. theruttu thavudeya pasangala.
@martysgotmail301 LMFAO denial. go google it. NONE of the translations is what you claimed. stop stealing chinese art. i didnt make up ANY meaning. OTHERS already stated it CLEARLY.
modern warfare is because of gun powder, which we invented. and we OWNED INDIA in 1962. so suck it up bitches.
@martysgotmail301 you dont want to get into who doesnt own anything. the aryans were foreign invaders to india and replaced the indus valley civilization. then the mughals were foreign invaders and built indias msot well known structure, taj mahal. then british completely colonized india.
@martysgotmail301 this isnt even getting into how indian historial record has a HUGE inferiority complex towards the greeks.
Varahamihira wrote in the Brihat-Samhita: "The Greeks, though impure, must be honored since they were trained in sciences and therein, excelled others....."[29]
Another Indian text, the Gargi-Samhita, also similarly compliments the Yavanas (Greeks) saying: "The Yavanas are barbarians yet the science of astronomy originated with them and for this they must be revered like gods".[30],
the Mahabharata compliments them as "the all-knowing Yavanas" (sarvajnaa yavanaa), "The Yavanas, O king, are all-knowing; the Suras are particularly so. The mlecchas are wedded to the creations of their own fancy."[31]
@martysgotmail301 LOL i dont have greek pride. im just using INDIAN TEXTS to highlight what ancient indians thought about greeks. that they should be revered as GODS.
EPICCC FAILLLLL. the link shows a bunch of stretches. it is the BEST evidence so far bodhi has NOTHING to do with the shaolin kung fu. course historians already know this.
If all of you asshole think that chinese martial arts didnt come from INDIA then why do the chinese worship BODHIDHARMA,actually all the martial art(discipline) came frm INDIA,all the other martial arts were either copied or influential!!!and
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to Dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
Qing Scholars of the same time as the preface denounced the author of the preface as "an ignorant village master" because there are MANY historical errors in the preface, including getting who was emperor at the time WRONG. that is like saying Bush is still president.
google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
There is ONE source for this bodhi myth. 1800s PREFACE of the yi jin jing has the story of him staring at a rock wall for years then disappearing into thin air leaving behind 2 books. 1 being the yi jin jing, which doesnt teach any fighting. it only teaches stretches and breathing exercises. even the MYTH doesnt say bodhi taught shaolin monks anything.
historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) have discredited the myth and the preface altogether.
@MrLaavinesh ill say this again, in very simple terms, so you indian can understand.
all this stem from ONE source. the PREFACE of the 1800s version of yi jin jing. now fuk what you imagine it says, the actual preface doesnt say he taught anyone ANYTHING. it says he stared at a wall, vanish, and leave behind the book. second, the book itself, which he is credited for leaving, ONLY TEACHES STRETCHING AND BREATHING. NONE of the shaolin forms are taught in it.
@MrLaavinesh Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
CHINNA ATI - China ati is a set of techniques taught in a few Kalaripayat schools. The origin is credited to some Chinese sailors.
@martysgotmail301 you monkeys spend enough time making up fantasies for chinese history, despite historians telling otherwise. so now you are butthurt i use INDIAN historians to tell the TRUTH of kalari AND others that you STOLE chinese art.
@martysgotmail301 Chinese invented way more than slumdogs ever did. btw, did you hear? Chinese just accomplish space docking. that space station is going up. can india get a satellite into space yet?
@angryaznman you fuckin ignorant cunt india has launched a lot of satellite in to space. recently it had launched a satellite for israel. you fuckin greek cunts keep getting loans and eat your burgers that has been copied and manufactured in china. are you supporting china just because you fuckers are expecting loans from china?. even if china gives loan to you greece you will not repay them.
@angryaznman while you fuckers talk about chinese space station dont you realise that these chinese were first working in nasa(america) and learnt about space tech and finally they are manufacturig a copyed version of nasa's space station. the whole world knows that these chinese use reverse enginering to develope things which the americans had already developed. fuckin copy cats.
@martysgotmail301 boy you slumdogs are ignorant. America has NEVER let China get ANY high tech. this is common knowledge. Chinese bought basic RUSSIAN tech to start their program. but NO country sells China high tech stuff. this docking system was Chinese designed. and they succeeded on their first attempt.
the European Space Agency wants to work with China now. so does Russia.
@angryaznman you fucker are calling us slumdogs ? we are not like you dick. our indian economy is the fourth largest in gdp. where does your greece stands?. do you need loan's ? if you want one just ask china they would provide you with it but if you are not able to repay them they are not going to just leave you like these europian union did they would make you suck their chines dick untill you pay them back their loans. hahahha....
@martysgotmail301 i dont know why you are laughing. greeks survive ROMAN conquests and turn Greco Roman into the greatest civilization the world has ever known. you think a little debt problem is going to eliminate greece? ROFL
@angryaznman you fuckin monkey stop stealing U.S technology and invent some thing on your own. fuckin white pigs you fuckers are the greatest thieves of this world.
@angryznman chinna ati means small hit. it does not mean china ati you bastard does'nt know the meaning of chinna and you are talking shit. thevudeya paiya. gommala em poola oombu da badu.
dont you chinese shit dont feel ashamed of stealing others ideas. you people are the scum bags of this world who hack american web sites and steal their technology. fuckin robbers. do you deny the fact that you fuckers were stealing american technology. tel me from you heart. you fuckers doesnt have heart so we cannot expect any truth from you people.
As if India hasn't embarassed itself enough on the global stage,here comes along yet another piece of ethnic bullshit-kalaripayyatu. A so-called 'fighting' (or dancing ?)style in which two malnourished looking gay men dunked in gallons of oil and wearing gay loincloths jump up and down like gay monkeys. It is a well known (and constantly proven)fact that kalaripayyatu is useless in a fight
@MrLaavinesh fuck you slumdog....you get your facts right little indian ...we are bigger and much stronger than you brown cockroaches...even our women can whoop your asses...so just fuck off.........
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
1. Kung Fu predates shaolin: Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin. A good example is Shuai Jiao, grappling martial art.
2. Shaolin kung fu predates bodhi: The 2 men who became the VERY FIRST Shaolin monks were ALREADY experts in kung fu. Shaolin kung fu came from them. ("History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity") Also, they found weapons in the monestaries of Chang'an. ("Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff") Suggesting the monks already practied martial arts.
3. Creation of 5 animal kung fu styles is documented, NO BODHI: Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the original 18 techniques of Shaolin. He expand to 72, but wanted to do more. He travel to Gansu Province to the city of Lanzhou and met Li Sou. He was a master of Hong Quan. they work with Bai YuFeng and expand the 72 techniques to around 170. Those 170 techniques were than divided into the 5 animal forms.
@angryaznman Mr.dickhead ur the 1 who mentioned about the "Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the 18 techniques of Shaolin',So-called original!!!Even stupidity has its limits you know.BTW the link has clear READABLE title that is SHAOLIN EIGHTEEN LOHAN HANDS which you mentioned.
@MrLaavinesh there isnt ONE sources that credits bodhi with teaching kung fu to the monks.
you cant give me ONE. because even the MYTH doesnt say he did. the MYTH says he left the yi jin jing in a cave and disappeared. the MYTH is from the PREFACE of an 1800s VERSION of the yi jin jing. it isnt even in the yi jin jing itself.
its in a PREFACE. and that PREFACE has MULTIPLE historical errors. indian FAILLLLLLL
4. The ONE place that credits bodhi is discredited: ONLY the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yijin Jing mentions Bodhi with kung fu at all. Historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) discredit this preface because it is FULL of INACCURACIES. Even getting the Emperor Reigns wrong.
5. The painting in Shaolin does NOT depict bodhi teaching shaolin monks. It actually only shows many shades of monks, all wearing Chinese clothes, practicing kung fu. Leave it to dreamers to think anyone who is a shade darker than light is Indian. Even if they were, no indication whatsoever about bodhi. PLUS the painting was done a THOUSAND years after bodhi’s time. It CANNOT be used as an indication of the past.
6. Sinews Changing Classic: Scholars disregard this preface because it has many anachronistic mistakes and the fact that popular fictional characters from Chinese literature, including the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客), are listed as lineage masters. In fact, Ling Tinkang (1757-1809), a SCHOLAR of the QING Dynasty, described the author (Li Jing) as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
7. So in conclusion, there was kung fu before shaolin. There was shaolin kung fu before bodhi. The creation of the animal styles is documented, no bodhi. The one source that credits bodhi is faulty and the author of that one preface was viewed as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
Hey mate ramsen i can tell you that you need to do more research ok because shaoling temple martial art never originated from the south indian guy named bodhidharma.It was originated from kirata mongoloied race of himalaya or nepal and traveled to the india and china.Buddha himself was mongoloied man from nepal not india.Aryans were not inventor of martial art it was kirata mongoloied race of himalaya.
Hmm very beautiful ...I am Pakistani(but) India had it all befor Egypt ...they even had nucler bombs...but don't know what happened we lost all:(...and no white man didn't made atom bomb..it's were Indians ;)
So Kalari is the origin of the martial art before it goes to china and became kung fu and brought by Chinese to Okinawa and became Karate? This is awesome
As We say, Every star has its own place in the sky, every ART has its own place of Existance, and we should learn Each other's art and culture - instead of fighting for the superiority... Art itself is the most Superior thing... no matter - from which place its origined... Instead, we should learn them, to protect Humanity and Peace on the Earth.
the stats that listed the biggest economies from 100ad to 1900s or w/e used India and Pakistans CURRENT LAND MASS.
this means they took ALL ECON ACTIVITY in that land mass, for EVERY time period except for mughal and british india. added ALL that econ and enter it as if it was magically ONE entity, ONE kingdom.
yes we know where is China but India is not behind either most important its DEMOCRACY,we cant force people to work hard in specific sector.but still its growing with 9% per year.[China will be 2nd biggest economy this year but India will also be no 8th-9th] with this growth it will be in top 5 in near future.PEACE go watch Russel Peters lolzzzzzz
Infact many tibetan budhist monks died travelling across the plains of india due to the different climate, to find and preserve the original teachings of budha.
Hindu kings were ruling over Indo-China and the numerous islands of the Indian Archipelago, from Sumatra to New Guinea. Indian religion, Indian culture, Indian laws and Indian government moulded the lives of the primitive races all over this wide region, and they imbibed a more elevated moral spirit and a higher intellectual taste through the religion, art, and literature of India. In short, the people were lifted to a higher plane of civilization."
not really. you talking about the khmer? indonesians? all of south east asia that was hindu was conquered by people Han Chinese kicked out of East Asia.
like the Thais and Laotians.
the last to take huge chunks of south east asia, was the Vietnamese, a vasal of China.
even the the rejects and protege's of China were stronger than your hindu kings.
this are small nations dude if you do some economy,communist forced population and small nations with medium population are easier to stabilize. i will be,my neutral and honest opinion is ''i will prefer developing Thailand to tiny Singapore''
@saurabhCherished small how. you realize SG is an international financial centre right? you realize SG has the strongest military in SEA right? you realize they have the highest gdp per capita in SEA right?
This countries gone poor after Invasion of British and Chinese,thats reason its little poorer now but still developing.as your talking TODAY'S WORLD ,By your perspective the areas which are Indian influenced ,never attacked India[Pakistan gone under Arab influence].Other hand so called Chinese influenced Japan[remember Nanking ,it was unfortunate though],Taiwan itself against mainland.watch Russel Peters video instead wasting time on false history.PEACE bro
@saurabhCherished ahahaha. interesting. Indias neighbors never attacked India? you sure? i must have imagined the whole pakistan, muslim-hindu thing huh.
its true, Chinese past vassals are not vassals today. of course they are doing what is best in their interest. point is they are strong. the students are now strong grown men. they dont have to follow or even like China. their success is enough thanks.
Singapore is great,i've been there many times but Thailand,Malaysia,Indonesia,Cambodia are still developing.I already told you Pakistan gone under Arab influence[if you read carefully]I am not saying China is bad or anything like that,paper,gunpowder invented in China but how you can say India did nothing in the past? modern numerical,chess etc invented in India.most important thing is why your coming on India related page and praising China?your just spreading hate nothing more!
i am a historian and economist myself ,China is indeed great !it was superpower[its superpower now too] along with India.If you read books written by Angus Maddison you will know the truth.India had the world's largest economy from the first to eleventh century, and in the eighteenth century, with a (32.9%) share of world GDP in the first century to (28.9%) in 1000 AD, and in 1700 AD with (24.4%) before English invasion.
Google image search for lord Macaulay's parliament address 1835.India wasnt poor ,after independence British left India with 90% poverty now its 37% where are that 50% people?thats called emerging middle class.I accept now days we Indians are haunted with exaggerated nationalism/patriotism.so they are looking down on other culture.sorry if your hurt.China was gr8 ,China is gr8.gudday! dont fall again for few stupid uneducated Indians dumb posts.
@saurabhCherished course it wasnt. India had 4 times China's gdp and gdp per capita most of the 1900s.
they also had better education system and more political stability. China was very far behind after a collapse of a dynasty, civil war and Japanese invasion.
@saurabhCherished, THANKS A LOT for Informing me about Macaulay's Parliment address. I would wish to know more about Our Great Indian History - which are not easily accessible... And about me, I write songs, compose music and write stories and want to make some best movies for thesake of humanity. I want to know more about some historical things. I would appreciate -if you could give me your e-mail address - so that I can communicate with you sir... I am not aware of MUCH of Indian history...
if you are who you claim, you would have realize that the stat for that included present day india and pakistan, when in those time periods it was a mass of independent kingdoms.
you are basically using an imaginary entity to make your case.
whats more, the ONLY times India counted legitimately like everyone else in those stats, is Mughal India (central asian founded) and British India (british).
Buddist philopshy and hindu pholiphy, indina yoga, indian logic, indina breathing techqniues, indian sutras, HAVE ALL INFLUCNED CHINA..which you are igrnoant of....TELL ME ARE YOU DENYING THAT YOGA, BUDDISM AND HINUUISM HAVE not influned china??????? ....YES OR NO????......crane, tiger style, where all of INDINA ORIGIN..bitch...get used to it.....its time u said...''ME SO SWWORRii''
India is not real name dude it was given by British.its official name is Bharat,but in english its India [like Nippon or nihon-Japan].Gandhar[like many Aryan kingdoms] was part of Bharat[we're calling it Bharat for 5000 years] or Aryawat[also alias of India].its like Wu,Shu and Wei dynasties.or 16 Kingdoms.present China is united with those kingdoms.they all speak Sanskrit derived languages which itself originated in Bharat aka India.
@angryaznman Every religion when travelling to a new place always adopts the existing customs. Budhism mixed with bon religion when entering tibet. Christianity mixed with pagan religions of the past as well. This is not a new concept. Budhisms core spiritual messages are same, the difference is the cultural difference thats it.
into google. and read the wiki link. Tang Dynasty was the most OPEN and ACCEPTING of Chinese dynasties. they still ended up doing this. to make sure people like you knew the only thing that is accepted is the Buddhism that is MIXED WITH TAOISM.
history is answering your pointless rambles so perfectly, but i know you will ignore. so typical of a kid.
your inferior record keeping is why the best supports for your claims are all coincidence or circumstantial. many cultures had animal deities. it is wishful thinking that they have anything to do with kung fu.
especially when chinese records already explain how they were created. this is no different than with the shaolin wish. just keep rambling about paintings drawn 1000 years after bodhidharmas time or some PREFACE of 1800s version of YJJ.
you tell me how china influenced india!!..cos i can gruantee that india has been influcing china ALOT MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER REALISE.....why is the whole of the east worhshipping buddist matrna and way of life..that comes from india prick...yoga..comes from india prick, breahtin technqiues from india prick....maths comes from india prick...chines maths were FAR INFERIOR to indan maths...SO GET FOKIN REALL.....
you asked me to prove kung fu predates shaolin by thousands of years. i did that. and now you are butthurt and can only rant about numbers and math.
this is why i stopped replying to you clowns. its such a big waste of time. you have NOTHING. you LOST. stop pestering me with your hurt feelings and inferiority complex.
the WHOLE OF ASIA..is infleunec by INDIAN BUDDIST, HINDU philiphies , buddist matras make up the entire foudnation of zen beleifs, yoga is the foundation of all martial arts of the east... ARE YOU REALLY GONA TELL ME THAT buddist and indian philiophies did not make any impact in china or the east..lmaooo.....GET UR HEAD OUR OF MAOS ASS..and smell the air..cos trust me chin the same peopel that gave china, yoga, buddism, hinduism ,maths, numbers, were FOKIN INDIANS.
anyone who has a brain and cant decide, think logically. Chinese, who are known to be meticulous record keepers, where many obscure kingdoms have their info coming only from Chinese sources; MAGICALLY forgot the creation of KUNG FU???
are you kidding me? use your brains. it wasnt recorded that kung fu OR even shaolin kung fu is from bodhi because it isnt true.
the animal styles though, for example, HAVE documented creation, it wasnt the indian monk.
@angryaznman what records!!...the indian came up with maths, numbers logic, FARRR GREATER THAN any chinese man...FACT..ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!..that you thinjg yoga is not the basic foudnation of all martial arts in the east...YES MARTIAL ARTS EXIST IN ALL PALCES AROUND THE WORLD..but breathing teachinques and yoga ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO MARTIAL ARTS..you prick..
animals stlyes??...ttiger style, crane style, were of indian concepts, in the same way indain belive in gods depicted as animals..
see, this is typical of you clowns. you randomly blurt out that you have animals as gods. and that means what?
historical record already explained the creation of the animal kung fu styles.
this is why you guys are such clowns and losers. because for someone like me who knows the truth, you attempts at claiming things that dont belong to you are funny at best.
@angryaznman lmaoo..still cant accept the INDIAN BUDIDST, HINDU CULTURE..represents the base of ALL CHINESE civilsiation,...YOGA is THE bases of all martial arts, BREATHING TECHQNIEUS are the BASE OF ALL MARITAL ARTS...the most important thing to amrial si BREATHING AND YOGA..and those acpest WHERE DEVOLED BY INDIANS not chinese...so get your facts rite...ARE YOU REALLY SAYIN that INDIAN buddism, hinduism philiosphy, yoga, is not par tof chinese culture?? lmaooo
well this is getting tiresome. you forget that you asked me to prove kung fu predates bodhii? you forget after i provided the sources you never mention it again?
now, you are just rambling and repeating yourself. you just blurt out "THIS IS THE BASE OF ALL THIS, AND THIS IS FROM INDIA, YAY".
...im telling you know, people will just laugh at you in university. if anyone even bothers to listen as long as i have.
again, READ THROUGH THE COMMENTS. i annihilated EVERYONE who challenged me on this subject. i already know ALL your attempts at proving kung fu came from India and dismantled ALL of them.
i ALSO know the STRONGEST support, and can prove its wrong.
so give up? stop wasting my time and read the past comments. i keep coming here to repeat myself. very irritating.
I would love a women to rub her feet all over me and then after woods suck her toes and lick her feet. Sorry I need to get out more!!! he he lol Indian ma rules!!!
the FUNDAMENTAL of all martial arts IS BREATHING AND YOGA TECHQNIUES.....which orignates FROM INDIA....yoga was the initial start of marial arts....So angryaznman can shout all he wants...the ROOT OF ALL MARTIAL ARTS IS FROM INDIA.....without yoga, breathing techniques from india martial arts would not emerged in the form it has. Buddism and yoga philosophy is the BEDROCK of martial arts...IT CAME FORM INDIA NO ANYWHERE ELSE.....
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA you are delusional. kung fu was already around before bodhidharama even went to China. so that ALREADY disproves all your retarded statements.
you failed quite badly. clowns like you just randomly yell out stuff, because not ONE historically document supports you.
that is the main reason why anyone with a brain wouldnt agree with you.
@angryaznman You show me that kung fu existed in china WAAAYYY BEFOREEE...bodhidharama went their.
and your telling that BREATHING IS NOT THE FUNDENMTAL PART OF any martial arts..lmaoo YOU A JOKER YOU DONT KNOW SHIT..... breathing is THE ESSENTIAL part of martial arts...brreathing techqnieus, yoga, is the FOUNDATION OF MARTIAL ARTS U kok suker....YOGA IS THE basic step for martial arts....MARTIAL ARTS IS FROM INDIA..like modern day chinese they like to forget..the truth...
Henning, Stanley (1999b). "Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff". Journal of the Chenstyle Taijiquan Research Association of Hawaii 5 (1).
they discovered shaolin weapons in the monestaries of Chang An. suggesting the chinese monks ALREADY practice martial arts.
Canzonieri, Salvatore (FebruaryMarch 1998). "History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity". Han Wei Wushu 3 (9).
explains that the two men who became the FIRST shaolin monks, were already experts in kung fu. Senchou was even a skill with the Tin Staff. it is recorded in the Chinese Buddhist Canon.
Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin.
Shuai Jiao is one martial art whos ancestor, Jiao Li, was around since the Zhou dynasty.
as you can see, there are MULTITUDES of proof that I am RIGHT and YOU have NO CLUE what you are talking about.
face it, you are an overly nationalistic retard. probably a kid. who feels strongly about this, but have NO knowledge at all.
you cant just randomly say "breathing" is whatever. too many mistakes to correct for you. another issue is bodhi only taught breathing technique to shaolin monks. they already knew kung fu, besides that, kung fu already was around
always with the interpretations and the speculation, no concrete facts.
Terrence Duke source was a movie. i can find documentary on aliens too. i can even find scientists that support the idea.
but you know why people dont believe? because EVERY god damn "proof" video is a SPECK on the lens. how many people have HD camera on their phone and we still cant get decent vid.
same for this. historical issue yet lack historical record support. THINK!
so not only did the FIRST 2 shaolin monks already know kung fu.
but last but not least, the ONE source that give bodhi credit, is the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yi Jin Jing (not in the YJJ itself). This preface is also full of errors. Martial Arts Historians Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi have now discredited the preface and the bodidharma myth as well. END.
18 luo han hands were by the 18 luo han monks. The 5 animal styles were from Li Sou, Hong Quan and Jueyuan. There is nothing left for bodhi to claim LMAO.
Yes, I heard of the painting. One problem, first, it only shows various shaded monks all wearing Chinese clothes practicing. Second, it doesn’t say anything about bodhidharma. Third, it was done during Ming, a MILLENIUM AFTER bodhi’s time. So way to go.
" I see no reason to doubt," comments Arthur Waley in his book, The Way and its Power, "that the 'holy mountain-men' (sheng-hsien) described by Lieh Tzu are Indian rishi; and when we read in Chuang Tzu of certain Taoists who practiced movements very similar to the asanas of Hindu yoga, it is at least a possibility that some knowledge of the yoga technique which these rishi used had also drifted into China."
in 67 A.D., the Emperor Ming Ti received Kashyapamadanya from India, who bore with him presents of images and sculptures for the Chinese emperor. Since then the intercourse between the two countries continued uninterrupted till at least the eighth century. During that time it is estimated that between thirty to forty Indian scholars went to China, and some two hundred Chinese scholars came to India, who took back with them to their country Indian books, paintings, and statues.
Chuan Fa, the Buddhist martial arts, preserved many Ksatreya techniques in their original forms. The monks to practiced Chuan Fa were often the sole preservers of the Ksatreya art of Avasavidya, called in Chinese Huo Ming or Hua Fa.
so not only did the FIRST 2 shaolin monks already know kung fu, not only was there chinese MA BEFORE kalari.
but last but not least, the ONE source that give bodhi credit, is the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yi Jin Jing (not in the YJJ itself). This preface is also full of errors. Martial Arts Historians Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi have now discredited the preface and the bodidharma myth as well. END.
@angryaznman Haha you make me laugh. Cant you accept that MA orginiated from INDIA. OMG u make me laugh You chinese think u r are so superior. where did yoga come from? where did the modern day numeric system come from? where did the concept of inifinity come from? where did the first plastic surgery occur? etc IN INDIA
18 luo han hands were by the 18 luo han monks. The 5 animal styles were from Li Sou, Hong Quan and Jueyuan. There is nothing left for bodhi to claim LMAO.
Yes, I heard of the painting. One problem, first, it only shows various shaded monks all wearing Chinese clothes practicing. Second, it doesn’t say anything about bodhidharma. Third, it was done during Ming, a MILLENIUM AFTER bodhi’s time. So way to go.
seems too many indians believe this funny joke. i will burst all your bubbles.
Kung Fu did NOT come from India. Boddhidharma only taught zen techniques like breathing first of all. second, the first shaolin monks were already masters in kung fu.
Also, the men who became the FIRST shaolin monks already knew kung fu.(Canzonieri, Salvatore;1998).
Its not martial arts..its dance LOL....
MrSunlei 1 month ago
You know guys just chill out , if u have found out that your ancestors was part of something great be proud of it , Dont go takin crap of others . What ever great things that was introduced to this world it was a contrubution of many civilitazation not one. If your think u great today , think again becouse here today gone tomorrow. No matter if your Indian , Chinese , Greek , pakistani,English we have the same fucked up brain that is evident in this page. .... : )
palan2676 2 months ago
@palan2676 I am sure he is an internet troll. Well I don't have time on my hands to sit and play a mud slinging match with him. I don't give a shit about the past as I am not part of it. I would rather concentrate on the present and the future.
jensonpais 2 months ago
@angryaznman By the way I hope Greece manage to survive their problems and get back to normalcy . Because I am not an a -hole like you.
jensonpais 2 months ago
Martial arts of the world: en encyclopedia. R - Z, Volume 2 edited by Thomas A. Green
Also known as ati mural (the law of hitting/attacking) and ati tata (hit/defend), as well as chinna ati (Chinese hitting),
AHAHAHAHAH FAILLLLL
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman I find it hilarious that you are going all over the youtube trying to troll Indians :P I am an Indian and I know that we can are still a long way to go before we become a super power. But a Greek guy belittling us Indians is a bit of a joke in my humble opinion. Though I am not a proud Indian like the many who have replied to you, the world knows that India has contributed heavily in different fields of excellence.
ps: You Greeks have more important things to do then troll here
jensonpais 2 months ago
@jensonpais its a joke because 1. your historical texts refer to greeks to be revered as GODS. and 2. alexander the great curb stomped indians too easily.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman @angryaznman Ha Ha what do you mean stomped the Indians. He struggled to beat a local ruler called Porus. Well Alexander the Great was great conqueror. Also enough of your Greek fist pumping as at the moment a beggar is better off than Greece !!! Live in the present. I hate when my fellow Indians keep harping about our past glories before the British arrived as we are doing well now in the present and we are only going to get better. I know you cannot say the same about Greece :|
jensonpais 2 months ago
@jensonpais LMFAO half of alexanders animals and men died crossing the mountains and he STILL conquered kingdom after kingdom. he even installed PUPPET GREEK kingdoms in india. you should be grateful the greeks were not closer to india and that the romans never cared to conquer india.
but regardless, the mughals ended up doing it anyway.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman moguls never conquered southern india where this is located. Infact southern kingdoms have defeated the mughals many times.
shubroto81 2 months ago
@shubroto81 ehh you need to look at a map some time. not really southern india. at least not half and half. more like the southern tip. you should be grateful for the muslims. they built india's most famous landmark. taj mahal.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman mughals never conquered southern india, u need some geography lessons. Secondly muslims destroyed tons of hindu monuments as well, u should be grateful that your past is hazy and that u know nothing about religion or spirituality except what u read.
shubroto81 2 months ago
@shubroto81 90% of what is india now was conquered by mughals. get it straight. you keep saying southern india but its really just that little tip at the end.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman nope not really..u are wrong..the southern empire was a hindu empire. The sikh empire also resisted the mughals infact they went all the way to afghanistan. Secondly the tibetan budhist monks, the ones really interested in budhism and meditation..not just political ones..looked towards india for spiritual guidance not china. Like i said many of them lost their lives travelling deep into india to learn the untainted, un-corrupted, un- influenced teachings of the budha.
shubroto81 2 months ago
@shubroto81 no im not. anyone who googles "Mughal Empire" can see maps of its size. the simple fact is the greatest indian empire, was Muslim. the only bigger was British India, but that was a colony.
buddha was in nepal, not india.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman No it wasn't. Secondly the mughal empire wasn't indian. IT was on indian soil but not indian..later on it adopted a lot of indian characteristics as does any empire when it moves to a diff location. Budha was born in the hindu kingdom of nepal but he attained enlightenment in india, so most of his teachings were given in india.
shubroto81 2 months ago
@angryaznman and tibetan budhist monks Never travelled to china but to the heart of india to learn budhas core messages to take it back to tibet. Even today in southern part of india..esp bangalore there are many tibetan refugees found..that have tibetan monastries.
shubroto81 2 months ago
@shubroto81 all tibetan reigious leader had to be approved by the chinese emperor. they didnt give a shit what india thought.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman well you are wrong as the Mughals never managed to conquer the whole of India. India is a big country divided on the basis of language,caste,creed back in those days too. The Mughals failed to conquer the South. That is the reason why the British and the Portuguese managed to land in the South and the British succeeded in taking over India. I do agree that you are correct about King Fu's birth but you are wrong when it comes to Indian history.
jensonpais 1 month ago
@angryaznman whats the difference in begging for loan from eu or china. you still depend on some countries for you debt . hahahah
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@angryaznman yes i agree with your opinion "NO country sells China high tech stuff" bcoz there is no need for them to buy things from others they just steal others technology and create a product of their own. they are able to do that so succesfully just because there are a few dumb idots like you to believe what they say. you dumb MF
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 oh, seems idiots include NASA chiefs?
NASA chief says US could cooperate with China
Source; MSNBC
you are so delusional. the US has veto China to join the ISS for years. now all of a sudden NASA chiefs consider working with China because CHina copied them?
LMFAO.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman i know that your greece government is going to cut off all the benifits that you lazy fuckers were enjoying till now. dont worry if each and every single indian who lives in the so called slum pays 10 rupees for a lazy greeks like you then that enough for you to pay back all your debt. first pay your debt without write off, then you lazy fuckers can talk about our country. MF
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@angryaznman un vayayum suthayum mudu da unga amma punda mavane
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 why do you post in such an ugly language to me. you know you are using ROMAN characters right? yet another blessing greco roman civilization gave to the world.
including the damn computer you are using and the internet.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman it is far better to be a poor person than to be a debtor. pay your fuckin debt in full and then come here to troll our indians.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
CHINNA ATI - China ati is a set of techniques taught in a few Kalaripayat schools. The origin of these techniques is credited to some Chinese sailors.
fail fail failllll
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman chinna ati does not mean china ati. chinna means Small in tamil and malayalam. stop interpreting your own ideas. and stop being ignorant. we know you chinese does not own anything you just copy every thing right from american military tech to wiping your own ass. theruttu thavudeya pasangala.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 LMFAO denial. go google it. NONE of the translations is what you claimed. stop stealing chinese art. i didnt make up ANY meaning. OTHERS already stated it CLEARLY.
modern warfare is because of gun powder, which we invented. and we OWNED INDIA in 1962. so suck it up bitches.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 you dont want to get into who doesnt own anything. the aryans were foreign invaders to india and replaced the indus valley civilization. then the mughals were foreign invaders and built indias msot well known structure, taj mahal. then british completely colonized india.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 this isnt even getting into how indian historial record has a HUGE inferiority complex towards the greeks.
Varahamihira wrote in the Brihat-Samhita: "The Greeks, though impure, must be honored since they were trained in sciences and therein, excelled others....."[29]
angryaznman 2 months ago
Another Indian text, the Gargi-Samhita, also similarly compliments the Yavanas (Greeks) saying: "The Yavanas are barbarians yet the science of astronomy originated with them and for this they must be revered like gods".[30],
the Mahabharata compliments them as "the all-knowing Yavanas" (sarvajnaa yavanaa), "The Yavanas, O king, are all-knowing; the Suras are particularly so. The mlecchas are wedded to the creations of their own fancy."[31]
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman wrap your greek pride and stuck it up in your own ass. the whole euro zone crisis is because of your so called greece.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 LOL i dont have greek pride. im just using INDIAN TEXTS to highlight what ancient indians thought about greeks. that they should be revered as GODS.
whats the problem lmfao.
angryaznman 2 months ago
LOOK UP CHINNA ATI. it is indian who copy Chinese sailors.
angryaznman 2 months ago
EPICCC FAILLLLL. the link shows a bunch of stretches. it is the BEST evidence so far bodhi has NOTHING to do with the shaolin kung fu. course historians already know this.
angryaznman 2 months ago
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google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
angryaznman 2 months ago
If all of you asshole think that chinese martial arts didnt come from INDIA then why do the chinese worship BODHIDHARMA,actually all the martial art(discipline) came frm INDIA,all the other martial arts were either copied or influential!!!and
kalari >5000 year old!!
MrLaavinesh 2 months ago
@MrLaavinesh Kalari TRUTH:
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to Dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
angryaznman 2 months ago
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 2 months ago
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Qing Scholars of the same time as the preface denounced the author of the preface as "an ignorant village master" because there are MANY historical errors in the preface, including getting who was emperor at the time WRONG. that is like saying Bush is still president.
google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
angryaznman 3 months ago
There is ONE source for this bodhi myth. 1800s PREFACE of the yi jin jing has the story of him staring at a rock wall for years then disappearing into thin air leaving behind 2 books. 1 being the yi jin jing, which doesnt teach any fighting. it only teaches stretches and breathing exercises. even the MYTH doesnt say bodhi taught shaolin monks anything.
historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) have discredited the myth and the preface altogether.
btw there isnt 1 indian source.
angryaznman 3 months ago
@angryaznman what source do you have to prove that bodhidharma didnt spread indian MA in China
MrLaavinesh 2 months ago
@MrLaavinesh ill say this again, in very simple terms, so you indian can understand.
all this stem from ONE source. the PREFACE of the 1800s version of yi jin jing. now fuk what you imagine it says, the actual preface doesnt say he taught anyone ANYTHING. it says he stared at a wall, vanish, and leave behind the book. second, the book itself, which he is credited for leaving, ONLY TEACHES STRETCHING AND BREATHING. NONE of the shaolin forms are taught in it.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@MrLaavinesh Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
CHINNA ATI - China ati is a set of techniques taught in a few Kalaripayat schools. The origin is credited to some Chinese sailors.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman chinna ati it means small taping in tamil. if you cannot understand our language dont give your own explanation.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 you monkeys spend enough time making up fantasies for chinese history, despite historians telling otherwise. so now you are butthurt i use INDIAN historians to tell the TRUTH of kalari AND others that you STOLE chinese art.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman the whole world knows that you chinese shit are a copy cats.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 Chinese invented way more than slumdogs ever did. btw, did you hear? Chinese just accomplish space docking. that space station is going up. can india get a satellite into space yet?
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman you fuckin ignorant cunt india has launched a lot of satellite in to space. recently it had launched a satellite for israel. you fuckin greek cunts keep getting loans and eat your burgers that has been copied and manufactured in china. are you supporting china just because you fuckers are expecting loans from china?. even if china gives loan to you greece you will not repay them.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 dumbass, the Euro Union already has a debt plan that allows for greece to cut its debt in half.
TURN ON THE NEWS SOMETIME LMFAO.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman while you fuckers talk about chinese space station dont you realise that these chinese were first working in nasa(america) and learnt about space tech and finally they are manufacturig a copyed version of nasa's space station. the whole world knows that these chinese use reverse enginering to develope things which the americans had already developed. fuckin copy cats.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 boy you slumdogs are ignorant. America has NEVER let China get ANY high tech. this is common knowledge. Chinese bought basic RUSSIAN tech to start their program. but NO country sells China high tech stuff. this docking system was Chinese designed. and they succeeded on their first attempt.
the European Space Agency wants to work with China now. so does Russia.
see this video from RUSSIAN media
watch?v=oq6kwX0jkMo
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman you fucker are calling us slumdogs ? we are not like you dick. our indian economy is the fourth largest in gdp. where does your greece stands?. do you need loan's ? if you want one just ask china they would provide you with it but if you are not able to repay them they are not going to just leave you like these europian union did they would make you suck their chines dick untill you pay them back their loans. hahahha....
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 i dont know why you are laughing. greeks survive ROMAN conquests and turn Greco Roman into the greatest civilization the world has ever known. you think a little debt problem is going to eliminate greece? ROFL
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryaznman you fuckin monkey stop stealing U.S technology and invent some thing on your own. fuckin white pigs you fuckers are the greatest thieves of this world.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
@martysgotmail301 China does far better than india in patents filed and approved. and in triadic patents.
angryaznman 2 months ago
@angryznman chinna ati means small hit. it does not mean china ati you bastard does'nt know the meaning of chinna and you are talking shit. thevudeya paiya. gommala em poola oombu da badu.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
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@martysgotmail301 Martial arts of the world: en encyclopedia. R - Z, Volume 2 edited by Thomas A. Green
Also known as ati mural (the law of hitting/attacking) and ati tata (hit/defend), as well as chinna ati (Chinese hitting),
angryaznman 2 months ago
dont you chinese shit dont feel ashamed of stealing others ideas. you people are the scum bags of this world who hack american web sites and steal their technology. fuckin robbers. do you deny the fact that you fuckers were stealing american technology. tel me from you heart. you fuckers doesnt have heart so we cannot expect any truth from you people.
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
ok i know imma get hammered for this i look this up because i read kenichi world strongest disciple lol and this is very interesting
pyroblast3000 3 months ago in playlist More videos from ramsen76155
Are you all guys so sure yoga originated in India?.
Have a look at the text called Yinshu ('Stretch Book'), which predates Patanjali and DESCRIBES yoga exercises.
MeAlek 4 months ago
As if India hasn't embarassed itself enough on the global stage,here comes along yet another piece of ethnic bullshit-kalaripayyatu. A so-called 'fighting' (or dancing ?)style in which two malnourished looking gay men dunked in gallons of oil and wearing gay loincloths jump up and down like gay monkeys. It is a well known (and constantly proven)fact that kalaripayyatu is useless in a fight
MrXiphos7 4 months ago
@MrXiphos7 Have you ever gone against a kalari practioner,i think you wont even have a chance against 1st year kalari student!!!get your facts right
MrLaavinesh 2 months ago
@MrLaavinesh fuck you slumdog....you get your facts right little indian ...we are bigger and much stronger than you brown cockroaches...even our women can whoop your asses...so just fuck off.........
MrXiphos7 9 hours ago
Kalari TRUTH:
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
angryaznman 5 months ago
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 5 months ago
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Pure Facts that destroy delusional dreamers:
1. Kung Fu predates shaolin: Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin. A good example is Shuai Jiao, grappling martial art.
angryaznman 5 months ago
2. Shaolin kung fu predates bodhi: The 2 men who became the VERY FIRST Shaolin monks were ALREADY experts in kung fu. Shaolin kung fu came from them. ("History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity") Also, they found weapons in the monestaries of Chang'an. ("Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff") Suggesting the monks already practied martial arts.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman ..i agree chinese martial arts have not come from this kalari bullshit
MrXiphos7 4 months ago
@MrXiphos7
And most Chinese kung fu is useless in a fight too... whats your point?
chiconspiracy 4 months ago
@chiconspiracy all traditional arts are crap...but my point is...kalari aint the predecessor of kung fu
MrXiphos7 9 hours ago
3. Creation of 5 animal kung fu styles is documented, NO BODHI: Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the original 18 techniques of Shaolin. He expand to 72, but wanted to do more. He travel to Gansu Province to the city of Lanzhou and met Li Sou. He was a master of Hong Quan. they work with Bai YuFeng and expand the 72 techniques to around 170. Those 170 techniques were than divided into the 5 animal forms.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman 1nd go this webpage>wwwshaolinorgchikunglohan And read the first paragraph,2rd get embrassed because of your own useless fact.
MrLaavinesh 2 months ago
@MrLaavinesh LMFAO YOU RETARD. did you LOOK at the link? NONE of those are martial art. taht is QI GONG.
AHAHAHAHAHA DELUSION INDIAN FAILLLLL. one of the "18 hands" is twirling your hands around and twirling your head. AHAHAHA
angryaznman 2 months ago
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@angryaznman Mr.dickhead ur the 1 who mentioned about the "Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the 18 techniques of Shaolin',So-called original!!!Even stupidity has its limits you know.BTW the link has clear READABLE title that is SHAOLIN EIGHTEEN LOHAN HANDS which you mentioned.
MrLaavinesh 2 months ago
@MrLaavinesh there isnt ONE sources that credits bodhi with teaching kung fu to the monks.
you cant give me ONE. because even the MYTH doesnt say he did. the MYTH says he left the yi jin jing in a cave and disappeared. the MYTH is from the PREFACE of an 1800s VERSION of the yi jin jing. it isnt even in the yi jin jing itself.
its in a PREFACE. and that PREFACE has MULTIPLE historical errors. indian FAILLLLLLL
angryaznman 2 months ago
4. The ONE place that credits bodhi is discredited: ONLY the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yijin Jing mentions Bodhi with kung fu at all. Historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) discredit this preface because it is FULL of INACCURACIES. Even getting the Emperor Reigns wrong.
angryaznman 5 months ago
5. The painting in Shaolin does NOT depict bodhi teaching shaolin monks. It actually only shows many shades of monks, all wearing Chinese clothes, practicing kung fu. Leave it to dreamers to think anyone who is a shade darker than light is Indian. Even if they were, no indication whatsoever about bodhi. PLUS the painting was done a THOUSAND years after bodhi’s time. It CANNOT be used as an indication of the past.
angryaznman 5 months ago
6. Sinews Changing Classic: Scholars disregard this preface because it has many anachronistic mistakes and the fact that popular fictional characters from Chinese literature, including the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客), are listed as lineage masters. In fact, Ling Tinkang (1757-1809), a SCHOLAR of the QING Dynasty, described the author (Li Jing) as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
angryaznman 5 months ago
7. So in conclusion, there was kung fu before shaolin. There was shaolin kung fu before bodhi. The creation of the animal styles is documented, no bodhi. The one source that credits bodhi is faulty and the author of that one preface was viewed as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
The End, dreams over.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman And you'll need to straighten up with this guy called shobyms in here: watch?v=rIR138ceCck
6arcsn1sky 4 months ago
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@all indians.
Hey mate ramsen i can tell you that you need to do more research ok because shaoling temple martial art never originated from the south indian guy named bodhidharma.It was originated from kirata mongoloied race of himalaya or nepal and traveled to the india and china.Buddha himself was mongoloied man from nepal not india.Aryans were not inventor of martial art it was kirata mongoloied race of himalaya.
raj26079 8 months ago
Was one those break dancing?
hermesake 8 months ago
Hmm very beautiful ...I am Pakistani(but) India had it all befor Egypt ...they even had nucler bombs...but don't know what happened we lost all:(...and no white man didn't made atom bomb..it's were Indians ;)
JabrilAqdas 8 months ago 3
@JabrilAqdas god bless you my brother. it is so happy to see out brother pakistani supporting us. respect from india
martysgotmail301 2 months ago
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dapitsanchiam 10 months ago
proud to be a keralite!!
samyhear 11 months ago 6
Very cool
Fangsinurface 11 months ago
So Kalari is the origin of the martial art before it goes to china and became kung fu and brought by Chinese to Okinawa and became Karate? This is awesome
iBlobs23 11 months ago 5
@iBlobs23 no, not even close.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@iBlobs23 nope. pure delusion.
angryaznman 3 months ago
is it even more complex than chinise medicine???
alexaioanei 1 year ago
As We say, Every star has its own place in the sky, every ART has its own place of Existance, and we should learn Each other's art and culture - instead of fighting for the superiority... Art itself is the most Superior thing... no matter - from which place its origined... Instead, we should learn them, to protect Humanity and Peace on the Earth.
SinriseSadaa 1 year ago
to clarify this:
the stats that listed the biggest economies from 100ad to 1900s or w/e used India and Pakistans CURRENT LAND MASS.
this means they took ALL ECON ACTIVITY in that land mass, for EVERY time period except for mughal and british india. added ALL that econ and enter it as if it was magically ONE entity, ONE kingdom.
NO other entry got that handicapped.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
yes we know where is China but India is not behind either most important its DEMOCRACY,we cant force people to work hard in specific sector.but still its growing with 9% per year.[China will be 2nd biggest economy this year but India will also be no 8th-9th] with this growth it will be in top 5 in near future.PEACE go watch Russel Peters lolzzzzzz
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
hindu chini bhai bhai
ragyfish 1 year ago
if dharma army's points are so correct? how come he cant provide ONE source to back up ANYTHING he says.
why is it always just
"ajavadivu Elephant stance
Simhavadivu Lion stance
Asvavadivu Horse stance
Varahavadivu Wild boar stance"
like that means something. you going to list the western zodiac as well?
this clown actually thinks stances is the same as a kung fu style. if anything they would be compared with other stances.
i cant believe how dumb this kid is.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
Infact many tibetan budhist monks died travelling across the plains of india due to the different climate, to find and preserve the original teachings of budha.
shubroto81 2 months ago
Hindu kings were ruling over Indo-China and the numerous islands of the Indian Archipelago, from Sumatra to New Guinea. Indian religion, Indian culture, Indian laws and Indian government moulded the lives of the primitive races all over this wide region, and they imbibed a more elevated moral spirit and a higher intellectual taste through the religion, art, and literature of India. In short, the people were lifted to a higher plane of civilization."
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA indo China? you mean south east asia?
not really. you talking about the khmer? indonesians? all of south east asia that was hindu was conquered by people Han Chinese kicked out of East Asia.
like the Thais and Laotians.
the last to take huge chunks of south east asia, was the Vietnamese, a vasal of China.
even the the rejects and protege's of China were stronger than your hindu kings.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA higher plane of civilization my ass. indias whole region and everyone they influenced is 3rd world poor.
meanwhile, those in the historic Sinosphere are as follows:
1. Hong Kong
2. Taiwan
3. Japan
4. South Korea
every south east asian country that is chinese dominated does better than the others.
1. like Singapore
reality speaks for itself. sumatra and new guinea are nothing compared to Hong Kong and Japan.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
this are small nations dude if you do some economy,communist forced population and small nations with medium population are easier to stabilize. i will be,my neutral and honest opinion is ''i will prefer developing Thailand to tiny Singapore''
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished small how. you realize SG is an international financial centre right? you realize SG has the strongest military in SEA right? you realize they have the highest gdp per capita in SEA right?
you know all this......right?.....
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
This countries gone poor after Invasion of British and Chinese,thats reason its little poorer now but still developing.as your talking TODAY'S WORLD ,By your perspective the areas which are Indian influenced ,never attacked India[Pakistan gone under Arab influence].Other hand so called Chinese influenced Japan[remember Nanking ,it was unfortunate though],Taiwan itself against mainland.watch Russel Peters video instead wasting time on false history.PEACE bro
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished ahahaha. interesting. Indias neighbors never attacked India? you sure? i must have imagined the whole pakistan, muslim-hindu thing huh.
its true, Chinese past vassals are not vassals today. of course they are doing what is best in their interest. point is they are strong. the students are now strong grown men. they dont have to follow or even like China. their success is enough thanks.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
Singapore is great,i've been there many times but Thailand,Malaysia,Indonesia,Cambodia are still developing.I already told you Pakistan gone under Arab influence[if you read carefully]I am not saying China is bad or anything like that,paper,gunpowder invented in China but how you can say India did nothing in the past? modern numerical,chess etc invented in India.most important thing is why your coming on India related page and praising China?your just spreading hate nothing more!
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished the whole point is to show that the Chinese influenced nations in SEA are infinitely more successful and influential.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
i am a historian and economist myself ,China is indeed great !it was superpower[its superpower now too] along with India.If you read books written by Angus Maddison you will know the truth.India had the world's largest economy from the first to eleventh century, and in the eighteenth century, with a (32.9%) share of world GDP in the first century to (28.9%) in 1000 AD, and in 1700 AD with (24.4%) before English invasion.
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished
Google image search for lord Macaulay's parliament address 1835.India wasnt poor ,after independence British left India with 90% poverty now its 37% where are that 50% people?thats called emerging middle class.I accept now days we Indians are haunted with exaggerated nationalism/patriotism.so they are looking down on other culture.sorry if your hurt.China was gr8 ,China is gr8.gudday! dont fall again for few stupid uneducated Indians dumb posts.
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished course it wasnt. India had 4 times China's gdp and gdp per capita most of the 1900s.
they also had better education system and more political stability. China was very far behind after a collapse of a dynasty, civil war and Japanese invasion.
but, we know where China is today.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished, THANKS A LOT for Informing me about Macaulay's Parliment address. I would wish to know more about Our Great Indian History - which are not easily accessible... And about me, I write songs, compose music and write stories and want to make some best movies for thesake of humanity. I want to know more about some historical things. I would appreciate -if you could give me your e-mail address - so that I can communicate with you sir... I am not aware of MUCH of Indian history...
SinriseSadaa 1 year ago
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SinriseSadaa 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished
if you are who you claim, you would have realize that the stat for that included present day india and pakistan, when in those time periods it was a mass of independent kingdoms.
you are basically using an imaginary entity to make your case.
whats more, the ONLY times India counted legitimately like everyone else in those stats, is Mughal India (central asian founded) and British India (british).
angryaznman 1 year ago
Gajavadivu Elephant stance
Simhavadivu Lion stance
Asvavadivu Horse stance
Varahavadivu Wild boar stance
Sarpavadivu Snake stance
Marjaravadivu Cat stance
Kukkuvadivu Rooster stance
Matsyavadivu Fish stance Mayuravadivu Peacock
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
Buddist philopshy and hindu pholiphy, indina yoga, indian logic, indina breathing techqniues, indian sutras, HAVE ALL INFLUCNED CHINA..which you are igrnoant of....TELL ME ARE YOU DENYING THAT YOGA, BUDDISM AND HINUUISM HAVE not influned china??????? ....YES OR NO????......crane, tiger style, where all of INDINA ORIGIN..bitch...get used to it.....its time u said...''ME SO SWWORRii''
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA the only influence was buddhism. which was from Gandhara. in the past, known as Gandhara. in the present, known as Pakistan.
it wasnt "india" back then, it isnt "india" now. so.....use your brain.
second, buddhism entered China mixed with taoism in the first place. it was already changed on entry.
GREAT ANTI BUDDHIST PERSECUTION (wikipedia it)
the very reason for it was to send a message to people like you.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman
India is not real name dude it was given by British.its official name is Bharat,but in english its India [like Nippon or nihon-Japan].Gandhar[like many Aryan kingdoms] was part of Bharat[we're calling it Bharat for 5000 years] or Aryawat[also alias of India].its like Wu,Shu and Wei dynasties.or 16 Kingdoms.present China is united with those kingdoms.they all speak Sanskrit derived languages which itself originated in Bharat aka India.
saurabhCherished 1 year ago
@saurabhCherished thats nice
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Every religion when travelling to a new place always adopts the existing customs. Budhism mixed with bon religion when entering tibet. Christianity mixed with pagan religions of the past as well. This is not a new concept. Budhisms core spiritual messages are same, the difference is the cultural difference thats it.
shubroto81 2 months ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
copy and paste
"Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution"
into google. and read the wiki link. Tang Dynasty was the most OPEN and ACCEPTING of Chinese dynasties. they still ended up doing this. to make sure people like you knew the only thing that is accepted is the Buddhism that is MIXED WITH TAOISM.
history is answering your pointless rambles so perfectly, but i know you will ignore. so typical of a kid.
angryaznman 1 year ago
your inferior record keeping is why the best supports for your claims are all coincidence or circumstantial. many cultures had animal deities. it is wishful thinking that they have anything to do with kung fu.
especially when chinese records already explain how they were created. this is no different than with the shaolin wish. just keep rambling about paintings drawn 1000 years after bodhidharmas time or some PREFACE of 1800s version of YJJ.
5 animal style was also documented. you all lose.
angryaznman 1 year ago
you tell me how china influenced india!!..cos i can gruantee that india has been influcing china ALOT MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER REALISE.....why is the whole of the east worhshipping buddist matrna and way of life..that comes from india prick...yoga..comes from india prick, breahtin technqiues from india prick....maths comes from india prick...chines maths were FAR INFERIOR to indan maths...SO GET FOKIN REALL.....
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA actually my history is quite good. India was not even a country in the past.
India was united ONE time by an Indian. Maurya Dynasty.
the other TWO times was by Mughal (central asian and mongol) and the British.
whats more, is the cultural exchange China had was with Gandhara.
this is present day PAKISTAN. STILL not India.
you must be 14. i clearly know wayyy more than you. give it up.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
you asked me to prove kung fu predates shaolin by thousands of years. i did that. and now you are butthurt and can only rant about numbers and math.
this is why i stopped replying to you clowns. its such a big waste of time. you have NOTHING. you LOST. stop pestering me with your hurt feelings and inferiority complex.
angryaznman 1 year ago
the WHOLE OF ASIA..is infleunec by INDIAN BUDDIST, HINDU philiphies , buddist matras make up the entire foudnation of zen beleifs, yoga is the foundation of all martial arts of the east... ARE YOU REALLY GONA TELL ME THAT buddist and indian philiophies did not make any impact in china or the east..lmaooo.....GET UR HEAD OUR OF MAOS ASS..and smell the air..cos trust me chin the same peopel that gave china, yoga, buddism, hinduism ,maths, numbers, were FOKIN INDIANS.
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA you have really lost you marbles. so emotional. actually, only buddhism was from india out of your whole list.
AND, buddhism in China entered as a MIX with Taoism. it was only accepted as a foreign kind of Taoism.
angryaznman 1 year ago
anyone who has a brain and cant decide, think logically. Chinese, who are known to be meticulous record keepers, where many obscure kingdoms have their info coming only from Chinese sources; MAGICALLY forgot the creation of KUNG FU???
are you kidding me? use your brains. it wasnt recorded that kung fu OR even shaolin kung fu is from bodhi because it isnt true.
the animal styles though, for example, HAVE documented creation, it wasnt the indian monk.
THINKKKKKK.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman what records!!...the indian came up with maths, numbers logic, FARRR GREATER THAN any chinese man...FACT..ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!..that you thinjg yoga is not the basic foudnation of all martial arts in the east...YES MARTIAL ARTS EXIST IN ALL PALCES AROUND THE WORLD..but breathing teachinques and yoga ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO MARTIAL ARTS..you prick..
animals stlyes??...ttiger style, crane style, were of indian concepts, in the same way indain belive in gods depicted as animals..
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
as expected, you couldnt counter anything i said. nobody cares what indians believe. the 5 animal styles creation is also documented.
The 5 animal styles were from Li Sou, Hong Quan and Jueyuan, expanded from the 18 luo han hands and hong quan.
give it up. you clearly dont know anything. i have very little interest in embarrassing you further.
you ramble like a delusional kid.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
see, this is typical of you clowns. you randomly blurt out that you have animals as gods. and that means what?
historical record already explained the creation of the animal kung fu styles.
this is why you guys are such clowns and losers. because for someone like me who knows the truth, you attempts at claiming things that dont belong to you are funny at best.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman lmaoo..still cant accept the INDIAN BUDIDST, HINDU CULTURE..represents the base of ALL CHINESE civilsiation,...YOGA is THE bases of all martial arts, BREATHING TECHQNIEUS are the BASE OF ALL MARITAL ARTS...the most important thing to amrial si BREATHING AND YOGA..and those acpest WHERE DEVOLED BY INDIANS not chinese...so get your facts rite...ARE YOU REALLY SAYIN that INDIAN buddism, hinduism philiosphy, yoga, is not par tof chinese culture?? lmaooo
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA that is exactly what i am saying. it isnt.
well this is getting tiresome. you forget that you asked me to prove kung fu predates bodhii? you forget after i provided the sources you never mention it again?
now, you are just rambling and repeating yourself. you just blurt out "THIS IS THE BASE OF ALL THIS, AND THIS IS FROM INDIA, YAY".
...im telling you know, people will just laugh at you in university. if anyone even bothers to listen as long as i have.
angryaznman 1 year ago
again, READ THROUGH THE COMMENTS. i annihilated EVERYONE who challenged me on this subject. i already know ALL your attempts at proving kung fu came from India and dismantled ALL of them.
i ALSO know the STRONGEST support, and can prove its wrong.
so give up? stop wasting my time and read the past comments. i keep coming here to repeat myself. very irritating.
angryaznman 1 year ago
actually no martial foundation is breathing and yoga. besides the fact kung fu was already around BEFORE bodhidharama went to China.
even the men who BECAME the first shaolin monks ALREADY knew kung fu.
hopeless cause. the point of all this is why cant these clowns provide ONE historical text that supports their cause???
Chinese have records for EVERYTHING, and they MISSED the creation of kung fu?
yeah that makes A LOT of sense....
angryaznman 1 year ago
I would love a women to rub her feet all over me and then after woods suck her toes and lick her feet. Sorry I need to get out more!!! he he lol Indian ma rules!!!
mysticpiggy 1 year ago
the FUNDAMENTAL of all martial arts IS BREATHING AND YOGA TECHQNIUES.....which orignates FROM INDIA....yoga was the initial start of marial arts....So angryaznman can shout all he wants...the ROOT OF ALL MARTIAL ARTS IS FROM INDIA.....without yoga, breathing techniques from india martial arts would not emerged in the form it has. Buddism and yoga philosophy is the BEDROCK of martial arts...IT CAME FORM INDIA NO ANYWHERE ELSE.....
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA you are delusional. kung fu was already around before bodhidharama even went to China. so that ALREADY disproves all your retarded statements.
you failed quite badly. clowns like you just randomly yell out stuff, because not ONE historically document supports you.
that is the main reason why anyone with a brain wouldnt agree with you.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman You show me that kung fu existed in china WAAAYYY BEFOREEE...bodhidharama went their.
and your telling that BREATHING IS NOT THE FUNDENMTAL PART OF any martial arts..lmaoo YOU A JOKER YOU DONT KNOW SHIT..... breathing is THE ESSENTIAL part of martial arts...brreathing techqnieus, yoga, is the FOUNDATION OF MARTIAL ARTS U kok suker....YOGA IS THE basic step for martial arts....MARTIAL ARTS IS FROM INDIA..like modern day chinese they like to forget..the truth...
TheDharmaArmyofASIA 1 year ago
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@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
Henning, Stanley (1999b). "Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff". Journal of the Chenstyle Taijiquan Research Association of Hawaii 5 (1).
they discovered shaolin weapons in the monestaries of Chang An. suggesting the chinese monks ALREADY practice martial arts.
angryaznman 1 year ago
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@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
Canzonieri, Salvatore (FebruaryMarch 1998). "History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity". Han Wei Wushu 3 (9).
explains that the two men who became the FIRST shaolin monks, were already experts in kung fu. Senchou was even a skill with the Tin Staff. it is recorded in the Chinese Buddhist Canon.
angryaznman 1 year ago
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@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin.
Shuai Jiao is one martial art whos ancestor, Jiao Li, was around since the Zhou dynasty.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@TheDharmaArmyofASIA
as you can see, there are MULTITUDES of proof that I am RIGHT and YOU have NO CLUE what you are talking about.
face it, you are an overly nationalistic retard. probably a kid. who feels strongly about this, but have NO knowledge at all.
you cant just randomly say "breathing" is whatever. too many mistakes to correct for you. another issue is bodhi only taught breathing technique to shaolin monks. they already knew kung fu, besides that, kung fu already was around
angryaznman 1 year ago
This footmassage is good and interesting.The address must be given to have this footmassage to be healthy and active.I like it so much.
TheLakshminarayanak 1 year ago
difference between myself and delusional clowns.
always with the interpretations and the speculation, no concrete facts.
Terrence Duke source was a movie. i can find documentary on aliens too. i can even find scientists that support the idea.
but you know why people dont believe? because EVERY god damn "proof" video is a SPECK on the lens. how many people have HD camera on their phone and we still cant get decent vid.
same for this. historical issue yet lack historical record support. THINK!
angryaznman 1 year ago
part 3
so not only did the FIRST 2 shaolin monks already know kung fu.
but last but not least, the ONE source that give bodhi credit, is the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yi Jin Jing (not in the YJJ itself). This preface is also full of errors. Martial Arts Historians Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi have now discredited the preface and the bodidharma myth as well. END.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman urgh pls bitch gimme a fuckin break
xXx0Sanctuary0xXx 1 year ago
part 2.
18 luo han hands were by the 18 luo han monks. The 5 animal styles were from Li Sou, Hong Quan and Jueyuan. There is nothing left for bodhi to claim LMAO.
Yes, I heard of the painting. One problem, first, it only shows various shaded monks all wearing Chinese clothes practicing. Second, it doesn’t say anything about bodhidharma. Third, it was done during Ming, a MILLENIUM AFTER bodhi’s time. So way to go.
end part 2...
angryaznman 1 year ago
seems too many indians believe this funny joke. i will burst all your bubbles.
Kung Fu did NOT come from India. Boddhidharma only taught zen techniques like breathing first of all.
Also, the men who became the FIRST shaolin monks already knew kung fu.(Canzonieri, Salvatore;1998).
end part 1
angryaznman 1 year ago
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" I see no reason to doubt," comments Arthur Waley in his book, The Way and its Power, "that the 'holy mountain-men' (sheng-hsien) described by Lieh Tzu are Indian rishi; and when we read in Chuang Tzu of certain Taoists who practiced movements very similar to the asanas of Hindu yoga, it is at least a possibility that some knowledge of the yoga technique which these rishi used had also drifted into China."
mrsmart001damian 1 year ago
in 67 A.D., the Emperor Ming Ti received Kashyapamadanya from India, who bore with him presents of images and sculptures for the Chinese emperor. Since then the intercourse between the two countries continued uninterrupted till at least the eighth century. During that time it is estimated that between thirty to forty Indian scholars went to China, and some two hundred Chinese scholars came to India, who took back with them to their country Indian books, paintings, and statues.
mrsmart001damian 1 year ago
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Chuan Fa, the Buddhist martial arts, preserved many Ksatreya techniques in their original forms. The monks to practiced Chuan Fa were often the sole preservers of the Ksatreya art of Avasavidya, called in Chinese Huo Ming or Hua Fa.
mrsmart001damian 1 year ago
part 3
so not only did the FIRST 2 shaolin monks already know kung fu, not only was there chinese MA BEFORE kalari.
but last but not least, the ONE source that give bodhi credit, is the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yi Jin Jing (not in the YJJ itself). This preface is also full of errors. Martial Arts Historians Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi have now discredited the preface and the bodidharma myth as well. END.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Haha you make me laugh. Cant you accept that MA orginiated from INDIA. OMG u make me laugh You chinese think u r are so superior. where did yoga come from? where did the modern day numeric system come from? where did the concept of inifinity come from? where did the first plastic surgery occur? etc IN INDIA
xXx0Sanctuary0xXx 1 year ago
@xXx0Sanctuary0xXx has nothing to do with yoga retard.
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Wow, you really are a thick chinky arnt you?
When did I say it has got anything to do with yoga u dumb bhender
Go OPEN UR EYES rofl, Chink
xXx0Sanctuary0xXx 1 year ago
@xXx0Sanctuary0xXx "where did yoga come from?"
truth hurts, you slumdogs are just dreaming. mad because i have obliterated you clowns with all these sources.
meanwhile you guys have fantasy. i 1962 you guys here hahaha
angryaznman 1 year ago
@angryaznman Haha chinks. first u think evolved differently to everyone else, but u chinks got showed.
now please chink go get plastic surgery, ur large nostrils, large cheeck bones, large jaw and slit eyes are blinding me.
FREE TIBET
Long live japan
xXx0Sanctuary0xXx 1 year ago
@angryaznman wht there actually sources? lol i just thought u pulled them out of ur arse
xXx0Sanctuary0xXx 1 year ago
part 2.
18 luo han hands were by the 18 luo han monks. The 5 animal styles were from Li Sou, Hong Quan and Jueyuan. There is nothing left for bodhi to claim LMAO.
Yes, I heard of the painting. One problem, first, it only shows various shaded monks all wearing Chinese clothes practicing. Second, it doesn’t say anything about bodhidharma. Third, it was done during Ming, a MILLENIUM AFTER bodhi’s time. So way to go.
end part 2...
angryaznman 1 year ago
seems too many indians believe this funny joke. i will burst all your bubbles.
Kung Fu did NOT come from India. Boddhidharma only taught zen techniques like breathing first of all. second, the first shaolin monks were already masters in kung fu.
Also, the men who became the FIRST shaolin monks already knew kung fu.(Canzonieri, Salvatore;1998).
end part 1
angryaznman 1 year ago
a real master
BadBlueBoy213 1 year ago
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boddhidarma teach kalari!!!! and chinese people mixed with wushu styles.
kalari is older than wushu.
SouthShaolinKungfu 1 year ago
boddhidarma teach kalari!!!! and chinese people mixed with wushu styles.
kalari is older than wushu.
SouthShaolinKungfu 1 year ago 2
I'm gonna use crocodile walk!
FreeeeS 1 year ago
Do they have schools for this in the US?
garland0130 1 year ago