JUDO 19 GROUND HOLDS 2.5min NEWAZA Osaekomi

[thejohnnylowe]

Anyone know who sings this song and what its called?

[lallope]

kill the music!

[Shweepsable]

good music .. ;)

[derm0ntti]

Hi chchjudoschool

I was wonding if you are from christchurch, new zealand?

if so can you plz send me the address of your dojo??

i would like to do a couple classes next time im in town.

Thx :D

[chchjudoschool]

@derm0ntti

sure; 250 Stanmore Rd Richmond

we train everyday but senior judoka mainly seniors 6-8.30pm Tuesday Thursday (keen ones also Saturday and Sunday)

[derm0ntti]

Kata Gatame, is trained diffiernt in bjj to judo i believe,

Judo = they teach you to stay close to the opponent or even mount them if you can.

BJJ = they teach you to seperate from your opponent.

which is the better way??

[chchjudoschool]

@derm0ntti

Hi;

I am sure different teachers in judo teach different ways, there are thousands of clubs & must be 300,000 coaches of judo to support our over 10 million judoka.

I prefer to concentrate on keeping it tight at the focus point of the shoulder, and fluid elsewhere.When I hold this people submit immediately, but it is undeniably on the edge of the judo rules, and applies neck pressure, technically illegal, but widely performed

Not sure BJJ way sorry,

I am sure it will be good too.

[fullkitty]

@derm0ntti It depends on your goal. If you want to hold the person down or establish control, staying close is what you should do. If you want to fish for submissions, separate and allow the person to roll to their side in order to force a vulnerable position. Judo is more focused on control. Jui Jitsu is more focused on submissions. That's why they teach mount position differently.

[xSpeedyxxx]

It's something wrong at 1:36.

Makura Kesa Gatame should be Pillow scarf hold.

Kezure Kesa Gatame = Broken Scarf Hold

:)

[chchjudoschool]

@xSpeedyxxx

hi; i thin it is more correct to call it kezure kesa gatame; makura kesa gatame at 1.36 is an old name, but describes the technique very well.

[WildWhiteDignity]

I know how useful arts like judo are for self defense, i just hate any type of wrestling.

[WildWhiteDignity]

just to be clear I realize that not the case with many of these, if you get caught in a lot of these pins you're fucked.

[chchjudoschool]

@WildWhiteDignity

In just about every case once the hold is cemented in there is only unusual people who can generate the explosive technique to escape the hold.

While its true the person underneath could grab an ear, significantly more dirty tricks can be employed by the holder, than the recipient who is restrained.

Its easy for the top person to kill the restrained person, if they needed to. That is why judo allows a positional restraint win.

[WildWhiteDignity]

A lot of these holds could possibly be broken by a novice if there weren't any rules, I saw her pusshing against his head at one point, she could have grabbed his ear, clawed his face & there were a few points where she could have bitten him, am I wrong, would it be like Aikido and she'd just applied the move herself by resisting?

[NoFrag0]

Some holds are useless tho, you can't transition into submissions

[chchjudoschool]

@NoFrag0

Which holds??? The holds are submissions, aren't they???

Many holds from judo are submissions!

It's not what you do, but the way you do it...

They crush the body to the point of breaking, requiring the defender to submit, or just lie there inactive to await the 25 seconds rolling around.

[NoFrag0]

@chchjudoschool

I doubt you're gonna break somebody's ribs by pinning him down using kesa-gatame. That being said, kesa-gatame (a.k.a. side control) IS a good hold since it allows you to do many things from there. However some holds like Kami-Sangaku are only effective under Judo newaza rules for the countdown. In open-grappling competition where the only way to win is by submission, you won't see many of those. I'm not hating on judo by the way, I was myself a practitioner. 

[chchjudoschool]

@NoFrag0

Actually I broke my sumo coaches ribs teaching him kesa gatame....

He exchanged teaching with me for 18 months; but we stopped the exchange after they did not heal.

Most holds can exert a trumendous pressure that requires the receiver to tap.

However its often easier just to break an arm or strangle as most judoka dont know how to exert that pressure, they haven't the faintest idea about holding.

I dont show that sort of knowledge on youtube...its for high level students

[Rnt911]

@chchjudoschool Maybe you weight 600 lbs, cause I do BJJ for about 8 years and I never heard of that before.

[chchjudoschool]

@Rnt911

am working on it,

looooove KFC....Mac Donalds...getting rounder to help me roll

[gregorde]

@Rnt911 He's right. I've done BJJ and Judo for years, too, and I've never felt a pure BJJ player come close to applying the kind of pressure a well-trained judo player will apply in kesa gatame. I provides some nasty pressure on the ribs -- quite painful -- and I can see how it could break them. It's a best a transitional position for BJJ players, though, and they rarely apply it as a pin.

[TheJutsu14]

lol very fitting and funny music choice. great newaza!

[Berserker6969]

great work!

[tforaodg]

nice work graeme!

I think it will be a good idea to put music on and remove the sound. :-)

[chchjudoschool]

Once sound goes I cannot get it back....

Lots of grunts clearly audible but important in understanding how to hold?

If others agree??

[moelicious416]

@chchjudoschool

Thankyou for the posting. I learned the name for mune gatame! It wasn't in the kodokan judo book. Then again they have excluded many techniques from the book.

[chchjudoschool]

Yes

I think mune gatame as I called it is considered as under Yoko shiho gatame; and considered only a transitional position, because it isnt efficient in strength use. I find it very useful by effecting a judo acceptable version of a neck lock, in using wakishime to control opponents head direction.

[chchjudoschool]

what music?? any ideas??