I think many narcissists are filled with hostility & not well disguised rage.These narcissists desperately want pay back for their suffering & to vent this pay back rage on whomever seems to be a likely target or victim & the best victims are compliant spouses and defenseless children! Jealousy is a big part of a narcissist's rage,he can't stand that someone might have a happy,successful or even an unburdened life so the narcissist lusts to sabotage them..thus supplying sadistic gratification!
@OlymPigs2010 A sense of self, self esteem, a defined ego. They constantly flatter people, or himself, or unsutls them. They dont necessarily want or need to be correct about something, as long as they get praise, praise they cannot give themselves. Either way, the game is about the ego trying to find its self, but its always conditional, always through other people who have a healthy sense of self. The N is trying to get a sense of 'self', but dont know where to look within.
@OlymPigs2010 Sadly they derive great PLEASURE. In healthy relationships, you do or say things to bring your partner pleasure and increase the bond/intimacy between you. Sadly this is not 'normal' for a N it is actually a foreign uncomfortable phenomena. So instead during fits of rage, they abuse you emotionally and sadistically and sociopathologically enjoy same. It is a painful cycle and the worst part is you may think as I did "I was a strong person" but it is quicksand.
an abstract field of knowledge. yup. It's unethical when the spaces do overlap. There are some that get supply in these areas by having unethical relationships, like in politics, or say a Dr. patient, etc. It's interesting that you point out they can be separate tho. But they definitely have these spaces. The title really caught my attention. I can't keep track of the false selves. It's so frustrating, but then again no, it's not my problem.
I've had to listen many times - so complex! Nearly every description, conclusion, explanation fits my N exactly... fascinating, once it stops scaring the heck out of me.
WOW ! Sam you've said a mouth full , I could hardly keep up : ) but good job just the same. I am constantly amazed just how well you point out even the most abstract narcissistic attributes with precision . Sadly once again I recognize myself.
@Kathydrel A narcissist would never recognize him/herself, so may I suggest your are recovering from being under bad influence. So rather, the way I see it, you are on the right track ! Shake it off! But I`m not the ekspert here.
what about narcissists like the pedophile assistant coach, Paterno, McQuery and others who allowed children to be abused at Penn State. Now it is revealed the children were also pimped to rich patrons who paid for sex with children. How disgusting. And don't forget the students who are more concerned with rioting to support these people who harm others. True Narcissism at its finest!
Wow - at 13:15, this is EXACTLY what this guy did.... showed up initially very quiet, humble-acting (not him at ALL). Then after several months managed to disrupt and destroy an entire group...
Likewise, he plays video games all night long and communicates with his online "friends" via Twitter and the online game networks. He almost never leaves the house... Hmmm.
Wow - I'm thinking of a narcissist I know, who at 30, still lives with his parents, works for his father, and (since he still lives only 5 miles from where he went to high school) still tries to contact and date girls who he knew in high school who are still local. Wonder if this qualifies as narcissistic space?
Intriguing detail on the N’s world. Had to listen twice there is so much in this one. Wondering if there are any clues we ‘secondary supplies’, who are on the other end of the N’s "Emotional Involvement Preventative Measures", can pick up on before things get ugly or we get bad feelings? What would the N do to back out of a Space? The Back-Out Ceremony.
Sam...I've mentioned this to you before, but whenever you use the male pro-noun in conjunction with these disorders, rather than being gender-neutral, you give the radical hardcore feminists & man haters ('They who cannot be reasoned with') more ammunition and they become even more emboldened like a 'jayeenn' below for example.
This is not a discussion about the average number of narcissists by 'gender'...it should be about elucidating the 'symptoms' and characteristics of the pathology only...
I think many narcissists are filled with hostility & not well disguised rage.These narcissists desperately want pay back for their suffering & to vent this pay back rage on whomever seems to be a likely target or victim & the best victims are compliant spouses and defenseless children! Jealousy is a big part of a narcissist's rage,he can't stand that someone might have a happy,successful or even an unburdened life so the narcissist lusts to sabotage them..thus supplying sadistic gratification!
Shamagogue 1 month ago 2
,,,Bottom Line: What does the Narcissist get or derive from abusing,controlling and thwarting people?
OlymPigs2010 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@OlymPigs2010 A sense of self, self esteem, a defined ego. They constantly flatter people, or himself, or unsutls them. They dont necessarily want or need to be correct about something, as long as they get praise, praise they cannot give themselves. Either way, the game is about the ego trying to find its self, but its always conditional, always through other people who have a healthy sense of self. The N is trying to get a sense of 'self', but dont know where to look within.
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@OlymPigs2010 Sadly they derive great PLEASURE. In healthy relationships, you do or say things to bring your partner pleasure and increase the bond/intimacy between you. Sadly this is not 'normal' for a N it is actually a foreign uncomfortable phenomena. So instead during fits of rage, they abuse you emotionally and sadistically and sociopathologically enjoy same. It is a painful cycle and the worst part is you may think as I did "I was a strong person" but it is quicksand.
hollywd125 1 week ago
an abstract field of knowledge. yup. It's unethical when the spaces do overlap. There are some that get supply in these areas by having unethical relationships, like in politics, or say a Dr. patient, etc. It's interesting that you point out they can be separate tho. But they definitely have these spaces. The title really caught my attention. I can't keep track of the false selves. It's so frustrating, but then again no, it's not my problem.
IndifferentSky 2 months ago
I've had to listen many times - so complex! Nearly every description, conclusion, explanation fits my N exactly... fascinating, once it stops scaring the heck out of me.
organysntracey1 3 months ago in playlist More videos from samvaknin 2
How can one make an N's PNS a hostile place for them, causing them to seek a new PNS?
iamestrella 3 months ago in playlist Psychopathic Narcissists in Social Settings
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Is this who you think I am Helen?
MoorLetoh 3 months ago
WOW ! Sam you've said a mouth full , I could hardly keep up : ) but good job just the same. I am constantly amazed just how well you point out even the most abstract narcissistic attributes with precision . Sadly once again I recognize myself.
Kathydrel 3 months ago
@Kathydrel A narcissist would never recognize him/herself, so may I suggest your are recovering from being under bad influence. So rather, the way I see it, you are on the right track ! Shake it off! But I`m not the ekspert here.
JeanetteDK11 3 months ago in playlist More videos from samvaknin
but what about facebook or any other "social media" opportunity ... couldn't this be a vital part of the PNS?
cocobogey 3 months ago
@reliableandrew it was a joke / flippant comment, not srs bsnss. Settle down, Francis.
jayeenn 3 months ago
what about narcissists like the pedophile assistant coach, Paterno, McQuery and others who allowed children to be abused at Penn State. Now it is revealed the children were also pimped to rich patrons who paid for sex with children. How disgusting. And don't forget the students who are more concerned with rioting to support these people who harm others. True Narcissism at its finest!
kellycat2552 3 months ago
So can a relationship survive with one being a Narcissist?
Dassy0607 3 months ago 4
Wow - at 13:15, this is EXACTLY what this guy did.... showed up initially very quiet, humble-acting (not him at ALL). Then after several months managed to disrupt and destroy an entire group...
bluestmarble 3 months ago 3
Likewise, he plays video games all night long and communicates with his online "friends" via Twitter and the online game networks. He almost never leaves the house... Hmmm.
bluestmarble 3 months ago 2
Wow - I'm thinking of a narcissist I know, who at 30, still lives with his parents, works for his father, and (since he still lives only 5 miles from where he went to high school) still tries to contact and date girls who he knew in high school who are still local. Wonder if this qualifies as narcissistic space?
bluestmarble 3 months ago 2
@bluestmarble Narcissist infant that is scared to leave the familiar playpen they have learn't to control.
GrumpSkull 3 months ago
@GrumpSkull *laughing* Never thought of it that way - great analogy :)
bluestmarble 3 months ago
Intriguing detail on the N’s world. Had to listen twice there is so much in this one. Wondering if there are any clues we ‘secondary supplies’, who are on the other end of the N’s "Emotional Involvement Preventative Measures", can pick up on before things get ugly or we get bad feelings? What would the N do to back out of a Space? The Back-Out Ceremony.
ItsJustTimeTo 3 months ago 7
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It's no coincidence that Pathological Narcissistic Space's acronym, PNS, resembles the word penis.
jayeenn 3 months ago 15
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@jayeenn I don't get it.
TruTV 3 months ago
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@TruTV lol jayeenn, things that make ya go "HUH???"
DelusionDispeller 3 months ago
@jayeenn Only in a twisted misandrist pathological mind.
reliableandrew 3 months ago 3
Sam...I've mentioned this to you before, but whenever you use the male pro-noun in conjunction with these disorders, rather than being gender-neutral, you give the radical hardcore feminists & man haters ('They who cannot be reasoned with') more ammunition and they become even more emboldened like a 'jayeenn' below for example.
This is not a discussion about the average number of narcissists by 'gender'...it should be about elucidating the 'symptoms' and characteristics of the pathology only...
reliableandrew 3 months ago 4
@reliableandrew Typical man! (just kidding!)
EasterMeansLove 2 weeks ago in playlist Psychopathic Narcissists in Social Settings
@EasterMeansLove Let me guess. You like an 'atypical' man. (Just jokes)
reliableandrew 2 weeks ago
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Pippisongbird 3 months ago