One of the best books I've ever read. When I read it, I tried to think of how Orwell envisioned this and how eerie it must have been to create this world and read it when it was first published. I compared it to our world today and a lot of stuff is really similar (doublethink, "Big Brother", etc), but the scary thing is how many people today don't find this world all that scary.
I know age doesn't matter and all but I am 14, and my serious reading is usually Twilight and other teen romance book.I picked up this book hoping to receive a challenge and honestly twilight looks like crap compared to 1984 by George. He is brilliant !
@Tinafigureskater technically twilight is physically a book therefore it CAN be compared but I think its pretty evident that 1984 surpasses it immensely!!!!!!!!
The New Order (German: Neuordnung) or the New Order of Europe (German: Neuordnung Europas) was the political order which the Nazis wanted to impose on Europe, and eventually the rest of the world, during their reign over Germany from 1933 to 1945. The establishment of the New Order was already begun long before the start of World War II, but was publicly proclaimed by Adolf Hitler in 1941:
“The year 1941 will be, I am convinced, the historical year of a great European New Order”.
Ingsoc (Newspeak for "English Socialism") is the political ideology of the totalitarian government of Oceania in George Orwell's dystopian science fiction novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
Ingsoc- English National Socialism. - English right-wing Nazism. The ultimate goal of Bush, Blair, Cameron and Harper. The ultimate evil totalitarianism.
@ckohan2 I don't think so... I lived in the US 17 years and now in the EU for 10 and the EU is much more free.... at least the EU is not obssesed with security and terrorism and monitoring people, installing cameras everywhere etc.
@TheYaom true is lived in boston for 10 years and now in the netherlands, amsterdam (again).
Coffeshops selling weed,legal redlight districts and alot of vacation from my job and shorter workweeks.
They also censor less here on television here as you can swear and show tits at any time of the day(and just on normal channels and not pay for view),hahah
The age of Revelations will be green, conservative, and peaceful, and Satan will take credit for it, and tell you that god is the blame for wars, and to take his(Satan's) mark, and if you dont, and you confess you are a follower of god, you will be labeled a troublemaker and imprisoned or maybe even put to death.
I found it humorous that poeple think satan works in the Obvious, with ugly conditions,,, Not So. Satan was the most Beautiful Angel in Heaven Till he was Cast down, and he Practices to Decieve, and he knows he cant decieve with uglyness, Satan will make his grass appear greener on his side. Satan will come as a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing!
@Galakrond why do you suspend you critical faculties now, why? I know thought crime exists in islam like in every religion, but why do you act according to it? of what are you afraid thinking about allah oder islam ciritcally? yes, the punishment in hell for thinking freely; I forgot it --> thought police. you are forced to love someone who you also fear. you really mean it? it is not totalitarianism? then you don't know anything about totalitarian ideologies.
orwell and huxley both discussed what future totalitarian regimes may look like before either 1984 / BNW were published. orwell envisioned a world like that depicted in 1984 ie/ stalinist and huxley thought that drugs and other methods of physiological/psychological manipulation would be more effective.
and another little interesting fact is that huxley briefly taught orwell at eton - french class as he passed through the chool for a short time
I had stopped reading books for years, this is the first one I picked up since my 'break'. The part when Winston and Julia are discovered, and the painting falls to reveal a telescreen, sent chills down my spine like no horror movie ever could. Never again will I give up reading; literacy is liberty.
we're seeing many elements of 1984 occurring in the world today, especially in the past 5 years. but the people are starting to see it and have started to stand up against the totalitarian elements; not just in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and Wall Street, but in many other places. it's time for a true people's revolution, it's time for the people to kick some ass.
@webmaster2850 It's the movie from 1984. He's put clips of it together, along with a perfectly suited soundtrack from Equilibrium. Needless to say, it's great.
@Galakrond Thanks for the info! I haven't seen that movie, but I've heard several comments about it. Guess I'm going to have to find it for rent or buy it online somewhere.
Both Equilibrium and V for Vendetta are movies with ideas highly inspired from Orwell's final masterpiece. I recommend both of them to anybody who enjoyed the book/film.
People should read "Postemotional society" by Stepan Mestrovic. He writes how totalitariansm these days is emotional, suppressing anti-social emotions like anger while blowing constructive emotions like wanting people to like you, out of proportion. It's actually more effective than sealing people off factual knowledge. Once you know a forbidden fact you're awake, but when you can't feel emotion they can throw a baby under a train in front of your eyes and you won't know what's happening.
I think it's funny how silly people think that the world will look like 1984/the USSR/DPRK one day. Capitalist totalitarianism means that everything gets flexible, transparent, accecible, sweet, banal and useful, rather than secret and closed off as in the totalitarian regimes of the past. Those regimes actually made people independent and venomous, capitalism makes people into slaves who just need another shot of their fake happiness. There's no way out now.
@ElenaXVI Don't be ignorant. The NWO will also include elements from Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World". It will be a combination of Orwells' House of Horors and Huxley's utopia of unfettered indulgence.
@ElenaXVI well said Elena, the trick is to make people think they're free, that way they will literally give away their freedom for free...or for a new consumer good
@ElenaXVI wondering what you have to say now that the PIPA and SOPA acts are being pushed and how you feel about the defense bill that was signed and being pushed through.??? Still think it's all "accessible, sweet, banal and useful"?
@ElenaXVI The idea is knowledge, where you obtain knowing things. The idea of having knowledge censored. If you're against the idea of being able to freely look something up, you are a sick person.
@Victord2000 Thank you! and i figured it would be because the book is really great! Would you say that the movie leaves out a lot of key events that happen in the novel?
@magg33 The film looks and plays a great version of the book. Visually, it leaves none of the key events out. However, as you remember from the novel, it's mostly told from Winston's point of view from recollections and thoughts. Originally, the film had far more voice over of Winston explaining the fabric of life in Oceania, however, they edited most of it out because of negative prescreenings and what you get is a lot of Winston silently staring around. Other than that, an awesome film! :)
im trying to decide if i should read this book for my book assignment but i donno if the book will as interesting as the movie, often movies are better than the books to me
I wanted to read it in english but the copies were sold out, so I had to read the swedish one... I'm surprised that they even translated INGSOC into ENGSOSS.
@sygede you wanna go to china, its more freedom in china than in many western nations you mean like north korea. China is not what the main stream media displays it, of course not everything is free but its changing.
@yoyuepz first of all North Korean is worse than China, and is not a western country. However my Chinese friend mocked their country as the "West Korean" because obviously China is approaching to that direction very quickly. Meanwhile you are talking to someone that had lived in China from 10 to 18, so please and thank you, I know everything about “Freedom in China”
@sygede Also the USD as lost 97% of the value since 1971, when they came off the gold standard. Where as countries such as China and India are buying gold and want it to be become a gold standard currency. When that happens the yuan will be more value than the USD and the USD will be worthless due to debt to GDP. I am not FOR and AGAINST china or usa. I am in the middle, but the EUR will finish in the next few years and so will the USD. Just wait and see what I say and this is facts
@yoyuepz I Agree with you on EUR but not USD. You should know better that the diminishing advantage of China's cheap labor will not last forever. moreover, while we are commenting on what IS going on in China, I'd rather bravely face the truth than covered it up and framed it as a pretty history of development, which do nothing but trade off freedom and human rights for so-called econ-development that benefit more officials than any other citizens in China. Hu Jintao would be 10 times liar then
@yoyuepz why is China cutting off bank reserves starting Nov. 30? what's wrong with your surplus in exporting? OMG your real estate (btw only rightfully owned for 70 yrs and will be reclaimed by the government) market is shrinking and price dropped like 1/3 in Beijing! OMG Wen Zhou biz owners are fleeing to US with their money! And so is your beloved leaders' offspring! Not to mention that the country write off debts from Africa for like 20 billions while spent less than ever on social welfare.
@sygede Nope, I see inbetween the lines. And you have less and less freedom in the west, high oil prices, more gov intervention, higher taxes. Of course china has a long way to go before they are "free" but I look at china today in 2011 and I look at china in 1989 and 1969 so much as changed. they came out of a great depression under mao and now they desire profit. Where as the west is going back into a depression, good luck with your "freedom in china" coz all i know you a lieing.
@711DAS Communism does not necessarily correlate to a lack of freedom. Ideal, Marxist communism is way, way less authoritarian than what was implemented in China and the USSR. At the same time, however, communism is only "ideal" for industrializing countries.
@IreneBodomChild I know I explain to people about this and about economy but everyone keeps saying "why would it affect me im sure they resolve something" and then "your paranoid freak".. these days I dont even bother explaining myself to people, because its pointless.
All these big brother dystopias are always set in britain... like the americans are subliming telling us we aint free... and i dont think we are lol!!!
@jnctf islam is exactly the same like it is described in "1984". just replace big brother with god or allah, the party with umma or islam, and you do not have to change another word. this concept of political form exists much longer ... it isn't a new one, just everybody thinks it is because of communism and nazi germany in the last century. but this is not true. the origin of totalitarianism is in religion itself. mainly in the three monotheisms. islam-watch. org/MohdAbdullah/1984.htm
@Yadira1ism it's not an ordinary religion. it's an ideology. a totalitarian ideology. it's exactly the same. why are you so offended? I think you the one who's ignorant. orwell wrote that a totalitarian state is like a theocracy. "war is peace. freedom is slavery. ignorance is strength." in other words: jihad will bring peace, freedom is submission(islam), (blind) faith is strenght. f you can't see these parallels you're blind and you know nothing really about his works or about himself.
@venustasveritatis I'm sorry, but what kind of Islam do you know about? Because what you said is NOTHING like the Islam I know. Just because -some- countries are theocratic and are Islamic, doesn't mean that Islam is like Ingsoc. Based on your reasoning, someone could say that Catholic Christianity is like Ingsoc as well, based on the Inquisition. However, we don't, because we know that's not the case.
@Galakrond I think you didn't get it... religions(not just islam) are totalitarian. and theocracies are the worst of them. you want to know why? because there is no escape. you can die and leave north korea or orwell's world. but you can't do that in monotheistic religions. you can't escape. it's utter, it's complete. they've only just started with you when you'll die. the real "fun" begins at the point of death. it's the worst form of totalitarianism our species has ever invented.
@Galakrond it's senseless, I thought you were a freethinker but you are a totalitarian. if god sends it... if mohammad made it to let everyone elsa submit and have control over them. look, it's like in 1984, you are trying to defend it at any price, a slave = ABDullah. if big brothers ( allah) says it then is not evil, bad, or totalitarian right? idiotic thinking
cctv police state everywhere, martial law & microchipped population, media control, speech & thought control... that's just the edge of it, and it's already clear to be seen as we look around at our society.
If they adapt this book within the next decade, they need Christopher Nolan to direct, Colin Firth to play Winston, Sean Connery as O'Brien, and Emma Watson to play Julia.
This film would work in our modern time as it can be a disturbing reminder of the way things are in our current society, and remind the people that a totalitarian world, maybe not as severe as Orwell's vision, can become a reality
And in the trailer, they should use the song Sound of Silence.
If only everyone would unite
wiggledytoes 7 hours ago
Orwell was right.
He just got the year wrong.
timeparadox888 11 hours ago
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
TheNightsMoon 23 hours ago
There are thought criminals who believe terrorism is not real...
electrocatalyst 1 day ago
1984 = ACTA
keineAhnungi 1 day ago
Music sounds like it's from Equilibrium.
trvius 1 day ago
well-it has happend---and looks like we will get the full treatment.
ndaa,,,acta---gun bann in nj---rigged elections--and big money running the show.
We are screwed
tbwest 1 day ago
The war is fought not because it must be won, but because it must be continuous. Sounds familiar.
cuttlefishgem 2 days ago 3
What's the name of the song? 1984= the mother of all dystopias
monus782 2 days ago
Ingsoc=Illuminati
d3ltadrive 3 days ago
pick up that can
CaliforniaVolante 4 days ago
1:30 that's the united states right there.... scary
TheYaom 4 days ago
i can't fucking find this movie anywhere. we read the book at school and it's pissing me off that i can't see the movie. what the actual fuck T__T
oh and down with big brother, of course
ishouldplayzelda 4 days ago
@ishouldplayzelda it is available for streeming on Netflix
ckohan2 3 days ago
@ckohan2 maybe i can get my friend who has an account to let me watch it
ishouldplayzelda 3 days ago
2012 is a sequel to the 1984.
Morihaus1 5 days ago
After reading the book I discovered how many things I've seen that have been influenced by it now I must watch this film!
BLUESLASH13 1 week ago
Prole
SneakerAddicted12 1 week ago
One of the best books I've ever read. When I read it, I tried to think of how Orwell envisioned this and how eerie it must have been to create this world and read it when it was first published. I compared it to our world today and a lot of stuff is really similar (doublethink, "Big Brother", etc), but the scary thing is how many people today don't find this world all that scary.
SweetestCollision 1 week ago 2
Does anyone know what song plays in the recurring scene of Winston opening the door to Room 101?
Gwotch 1 week ago
@Gwotch The song comes from the movie " Equilibrium " with Christian Bale
szemjaza 1 week ago
Love this book. So glad I was introduced to it at such a young age that I am (fourteen), all thanks to my dad! Brilliant.
Thatisfuckingpwoper 1 week ago 2
SOPA Is The Thought Police
kontrahylian 1 week ago 11
@kontrahylian ACTA is the INGSOC, the greatest evil.
Narania234 1 week ago 2
@kontrahylian plus ndaa, patriot act
WorldMilitia 1 week ago
What was written in 1948 is relevant today. Orwell sure was a visionary.
BabblingCosmonaut 1 week ago 5
exactly whats going on today
daleva187goligo 1 week ago 7
I know age doesn't matter and all but I am 14, and my serious reading is usually Twilight and other teen romance book.I picked up this book hoping to receive a challenge and honestly twilight looks like crap compared to 1984 by George. He is brilliant !
BabyZ12321 1 week ago 5
@BabyZ12321 Twilight DOES NOT COMPARE to 1984.
Tinafigureskater 1 week ago 4
@Tinafigureskater technically twilight is physically a book therefore it CAN be compared but I think its pretty evident that 1984 surpasses it immensely!!!!!!!!
BabyZ12321 1 week ago 2
@BabyZ12321 Hmm... I said it does not compare to 1984 psychologically speaking... 1984 is EPIC, Twilight is not.
Tinafigureskater 1 week ago
@Tinafigureskater im reading ur comment but i ddn't see that but i guess its obviously implied but yeah i agree with ya there
BabyZ12321 1 week ago
Good god this gives away a lot of the plot...
Yosh2006 1 week ago
SOPA was the cause
XxSilly63xX 1 week ago
Is this a real movie? It looks like it, but I've never heard of the movie before, just the book.
MegaMonkeyTrouble 1 week ago
@MegaMonkeyTrouble yes but read the book, the movie isnt that good. gets confusing in places because it misses parts out
00die00991 1 week ago
I asked my Gran last week if she'd read 1984, she said no but she'd seen the film. This was the first I'd heard of one! lol, need to get it on DVD
DavidLeeThrower 1 week ago
If the SOPA and PIPA will pass, this is how America will look like.
JuliusIsMe 1 week ago
@JuliusIsMe SOPA, ACTA and PIPA=INGSOC
Narania234 1 week ago
SOPA and PIPA
Forward this to everyone tonight!!!
Ron Paul 2012!!
Liberty!
cahivx 1 week ago
SOPA AND PIPA
re2fanlicker2 1 week ago
Remake please!!!
Hetkanookanders 2 weeks ago
The New Order (German: Neuordnung) or the New Order of Europe (German: Neuordnung Europas) was the political order which the Nazis wanted to impose on Europe, and eventually the rest of the world, during their reign over Germany from 1933 to 1945. The establishment of the New Order was already begun long before the start of World War II, but was publicly proclaimed by Adolf Hitler in 1941:
“The year 1941 will be, I am convinced, the historical year of a great European New Order”.
—Adolf Hitler
Narania234 2 weeks ago 3
You should start interesting what is New World Order...
bzyku741 2 weeks ago
38 members of Ingsoc dislike this video.
Societ of Ingsoc:
1.Big Brother
2.Inner Party 2% of population.
3.Outer Party.
4.Proles 85% of population.
Narania234 2 weeks ago 28
Ingsoc (Newspeak for "English Socialism") is the political ideology of the totalitarian government of Oceania in George Orwell's dystopian science fiction novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
Ingsoc- English National Socialism. - English right-wing Nazism. The ultimate goal of Bush, Blair, Cameron and Harper. The ultimate evil totalitarianism.
Narania234 2 weeks ago 5
Wow! they should have called it USA 2012
SpecialEffectsRecord 2 weeks ago 75
@SpecialEffectsRecord my friend, the answer to 1984 is 1776.
TheAmericanFreeBird 1 week ago
@SpecialEffectsRecord
USA 2012 or EU 2012
Lugburz6 6 days ago 2
@Lugburz6 Eu is not that bad compared to the US
TheYaom 4 days ago
@TheYaom EU is worse...for now.
ckohan2 3 days ago
@ckohan2 I don't think so... I lived in the US 17 years and now in the EU for 10 and the EU is much more free.... at least the EU is not obssesed with security and terrorism and monitoring people, installing cameras everywhere etc.
TheYaom 3 days ago 2
@TheYaom they enacted ACTA
ishouldplayzelda 3 days ago
@TheYaom true is lived in boston for 10 years and now in the netherlands, amsterdam (again).
Coffeshops selling weed,legal redlight districts and alot of vacation from my job and shorter workweeks.
They also censor less here on television here as you can swear and show tits at any time of the day(and just on normal channels and not pay for view),hahah
goodmood3 3 hours ago
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70somi 6 days ago
@SpecialEffectsRecord The only difference is Obama who is the Big Brotha....
AkiraBrahe 6 days ago
@SpecialEffectsRecord Why not everywhere 2012
YooNet93 3 days ago
My english class just finished reading this book i thought it was a good book it wasn't really boring but it was super great either lol
jesusismyrock456 2 weeks ago
That was weird, in order to comment i had to put those STUPID letters in right? The letters were fackwar lol no joke
L33thalLee 2 weeks ago
royal wedding)
joebstarsurfer 2 weeks ago
We were always at war with Iraq
AlSween 2 weeks ago
This looks Double-Plus-Un-Good
rampart23 3 weeks ago
@rampart23 thumbs up for the reference
thumbs down for the inaccuracy of the comment
whyareyousosweaty 2 weeks ago
I don't see much difference with now, exept for the blue overalls.
ikt93 3 weeks ago
I dont liked the book...
Hamburger1993 3 weeks ago
@Hamburger1993 With spelling like that, it's easy to see why.
ObituaryBirthday1 2 weeks ago
@ObituaryBirthday1 haha maybe youre right, but I think animal farm was more realistic
Hamburger1993 2 weeks ago
The book was better.
DrMrN1KOLA 3 weeks ago
It will come in with a smile not by force.
HornedWarMachine 3 weeks ago
The National Defense Authorization Act is another big step in making this film come very much true in America. It's happening, and we're letting it.
RikkWolf 3 weeks ago 3
its happening
Lizardvenom1 3 weeks ago
Silly big brother.
We all know 2+2=10
(In base 4, I'm fine!)
DavidReinold 3 weeks ago 2
The age of Revelations will be green, conservative, and peaceful, and Satan will take credit for it, and tell you that god is the blame for wars, and to take his(Satan's) mark, and if you dont, and you confess you are a follower of god, you will be labeled a troublemaker and imprisoned or maybe even put to death.
Dreambro1 3 weeks ago
I found it humorous that poeple think satan works in the Obvious, with ugly conditions,,, Not So. Satan was the most Beautiful Angel in Heaven Till he was Cast down, and he Practices to Decieve, and he knows he cant decieve with uglyness, Satan will make his grass appear greener on his side. Satan will come as a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing!
Dreambro1 3 weeks ago
@Galakrond why do you suspend you critical faculties now, why? I know thought crime exists in islam like in every religion, but why do you act according to it? of what are you afraid thinking about allah oder islam ciritcally? yes, the punishment in hell for thinking freely; I forgot it --> thought police. you are forced to love someone who you also fear. you really mean it? it is not totalitarianism? then you don't know anything about totalitarian ideologies.
venustasveritatis 3 weeks ago
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venustasveritatis 3 weeks ago
rated R for "Really happening now"
morgonfr33m4n1337z 4 weeks ago 3
orwell and huxley both discussed what future totalitarian regimes may look like before either 1984 / BNW were published. orwell envisioned a world like that depicted in 1984 ie/ stalinist and huxley thought that drugs and other methods of physiological/psychological manipulation would be more effective.
and another little interesting fact is that huxley briefly taught orwell at eton - french class as he passed through the chool for a short time
Vegeta10ism 4 weeks ago
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lambofgod661 1 month ago
This fits so well together, can't wait for the new year, 2012 will be great..
Spot the sarcasm.
CombineHgrunt 1 month ago
I had stopped reading books for years, this is the first one I picked up since my 'break'. The part when Winston and Julia are discovered, and the painting falls to reveal a telescreen, sent chills down my spine like no horror movie ever could. Never again will I give up reading; literacy is liberty.
stridexr 1 month ago
@stridexr I like that quote you use... Literacy is liberty..it's true in a sense....I got the book for christmas...im gonna start reading it soon.
MrTripplenipple 3 weeks ago
we're seeing many elements of 1984 occurring in the world today, especially in the past 5 years. but the people are starting to see it and have started to stand up against the totalitarian elements; not just in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and Wall Street, but in many other places. it's time for a true people's revolution, it's time for the people to kick some ass.
PrinceRavensword 1 month ago
Is this a "new" movie remake that was released in just the past couple of years?
Or is this the same movie that was released back in the actual year 1984, which was scripted from Orwell's Book he wrote in the 40's?
webmaster2850 1 month ago
@webmaster2850 It's the movie from 1984. He's put clips of it together, along with a perfectly suited soundtrack from Equilibrium. Needless to say, it's great.
Galakrond 1 month ago
@Galakrond Thanks for the info! I haven't seen that movie, but I've heard several comments about it. Guess I'm going to have to find it for rent or buy it online somewhere.
webmaster2850 1 month ago
Want to see a real life version of "1984"? Just study North Korea.
TheRandomSweed 1 month ago
NDAA is here come Jan 1st 2012...
LoveSteroid 1 month ago
@LoveSteroid he signed it? who the fuck would give a president that much power? it's unethical and evil
Myytmovies 1 month ago
@Myytmovies 1984, here we come!
LoveSteroid 1 month ago
@LoveSteroid Obama, his new name is O'Brien
Myytmovies 1 month ago
@Myytmovies u are insane
josienevable12 1 month ago
@josienevable12 how?
Myytmovies 1 month ago
@josienevable12 O'brien was the villian in 1984. Obama=O'brien
Myytmovies 1 month ago
Osama bin Laden: Emmanuel Goldstein
Ministry of Love: Guantanamo Bay
corydonald1 1 month ago 21
@corydonald1 Very good comparison
MichiganManiac5594 1 month ago
@corydonald1 War on Terror = War with Eurasia/Eastasia.
Spookeh ;)
mininachos1 3 weeks ago
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McPimpingtonTube 1 month ago
Both Equilibrium and V for Vendetta are movies with ideas highly inspired from Orwell's final masterpiece. I recommend both of them to anybody who enjoyed the book/film.
SamsButterscotch 1 month ago
what's the music called ?
dopejoel 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What's the name of the song?
sexypotterhead 1 month ago
Makes me think of North Korea.
LucifersSweetAngel 1 month ago
People should read "Postemotional society" by Stepan Mestrovic. He writes how totalitariansm these days is emotional, suppressing anti-social emotions like anger while blowing constructive emotions like wanting people to like you, out of proportion. It's actually more effective than sealing people off factual knowledge. Once you know a forbidden fact you're awake, but when you can't feel emotion they can throw a baby under a train in front of your eyes and you won't know what's happening.
ElenaXVI 1 month ago 3
I think it's funny how silly people think that the world will look like 1984/the USSR/DPRK one day. Capitalist totalitarianism means that everything gets flexible, transparent, accecible, sweet, banal and useful, rather than secret and closed off as in the totalitarian regimes of the past. Those regimes actually made people independent and venomous, capitalism makes people into slaves who just need another shot of their fake happiness. There's no way out now.
ElenaXVI 1 month ago 25
@ElenaXVI Don't be ignorant. The NWO will also include elements from Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World". It will be a combination of Orwells' House of Horors and Huxley's utopia of unfettered indulgence.
teched246 1 month ago
@ElenaXVI Yes, freedom is slavery. I agree.
shmeebegek1 3 weeks ago
@shmeebegek1 If freedom is slavery, does that make slavery freedom? I don't get it.
L33thalLee 2 weeks ago
@L33thalLee Now you're getting it. But only if the party says so. That's blackwhite for you.
shmeebegek1 2 weeks ago
@ElenaXVI well said Elena, the trick is to make people think they're free, that way they will literally give away their freedom for free...or for a new consumer good
riDNinahmeandawgs 2 weeks ago
@ElenaXVI wondering what you have to say now that the PIPA and SOPA acts are being pushed and how you feel about the defense bill that was signed and being pushed through.??? Still think it's all "accessible, sweet, banal and useful"?
MOM1NATOR 1 week ago
@MOM1NATOR So if you don't have Wikipedia, you can't be free?
ElenaXVI 1 week ago
@ElenaXVI The idea is knowledge, where you obtain knowing things. The idea of having knowledge censored. If you're against the idea of being able to freely look something up, you are a sick person.
MegaMonkeyTrouble 1 week ago
One chilling image pops into my mind when I think of big brother...Obama.
vadarman9906 1 month ago
NewWorldOrder, BigBrother:All Seeing Eye, Illuminati
kidcheesy 1 month ago
It's kinda happening now -_-
IAMSAM1234567890 1 month ago
Must find a way to download.
Galakrond 1 month ago
1984, the matrix, equalibrium, invasion of the body snatchers.. All the same film, powerful messages of the human psyche
JDPKRevolution 1 month ago
Does the movie have sex scenes like in the book?
JosephStalin11 1 month ago
is the book similar to the movie?
magg33 1 month ago
@magg33 The movie is very good, but the book is better - as they usually are.
Victord2000 1 month ago
@Victord2000 Thank you! and i figured it would be because the book is really great! Would you say that the movie leaves out a lot of key events that happen in the novel?
magg33 1 month ago
@magg33 The film looks and plays a great version of the book. Visually, it leaves none of the key events out. However, as you remember from the novel, it's mostly told from Winston's point of view from recollections and thoughts. Originally, the film had far more voice over of Winston explaining the fabric of life in Oceania, however, they edited most of it out because of negative prescreenings and what you get is a lot of Winston silently staring around. Other than that, an awesome film! :)
luis6079 1 month ago in playlist Movie's
I love how misunderstood this book is.
ElenaXVI 1 month ago
They were off by ≈27 years.
Mazgelis626 1 month ago
im trying to decide if i should read this book for my book assignment but i donno if the book will as interesting as the movie, often movies are better than the books to me
SuperNation22 1 month ago
Funny, because this is almost coming to a reality here in America.. God help us
FliPf13 1 month ago 4
Seems a lot like what our future in the west is becoming...
FistsOfStobe 1 month ago
trailer looks badass, im reading this book now prob gonna watch movie after it
RapWorld3000 1 month ago
fuck big brother
soffer 1 month ago 3
I wanted to read it in english but the copies were sold out, so I had to read the swedish one... I'm surprised that they even translated INGSOC into ENGSOSS.
RedBigButton 1 month ago
The america with 1867 bill
Oloimpresive 1 month ago
what was the actual year? i read the book and it had said he thought it was 1984 but it was really later or something
InTheEnd0108 1 month ago
National Defense Authorization Act; Sec. 1032 -- US citizens may now be indefinitely detained (if the bill is not vetoed by Obama)
LoveNeverCeases 1 month ago
modern China under Communist, per say.
sygede 1 month ago
@sygede you wanna go to china, its more freedom in china than in many western nations you mean like north korea. China is not what the main stream media displays it, of course not everything is free but its changing.
yoyuepz 1 month ago
@yoyuepz first of all North Korean is worse than China, and is not a western country. However my Chinese friend mocked their country as the "West Korean" because obviously China is approaching to that direction very quickly. Meanwhile you are talking to someone that had lived in China from 10 to 18, so please and thank you, I know everything about “Freedom in China”
sygede 1 month ago
@sygede Also the USD as lost 97% of the value since 1971, when they came off the gold standard. Where as countries such as China and India are buying gold and want it to be become a gold standard currency. When that happens the yuan will be more value than the USD and the USD will be worthless due to debt to GDP. I am not FOR and AGAINST china or usa. I am in the middle, but the EUR will finish in the next few years and so will the USD. Just wait and see what I say and this is facts
yoyuepz 1 month ago
@yoyuepz I Agree with you on EUR but not USD. You should know better that the diminishing advantage of China's cheap labor will not last forever. moreover, while we are commenting on what IS going on in China, I'd rather bravely face the truth than covered it up and framed it as a pretty history of development, which do nothing but trade off freedom and human rights for so-called econ-development that benefit more officials than any other citizens in China. Hu Jintao would be 10 times liar then
sygede 1 month ago
@yoyuepz why is China cutting off bank reserves starting Nov. 30? what's wrong with your surplus in exporting? OMG your real estate (btw only rightfully owned for 70 yrs and will be reclaimed by the government) market is shrinking and price dropped like 1/3 in Beijing! OMG Wen Zhou biz owners are fleeing to US with their money! And so is your beloved leaders' offspring! Not to mention that the country write off debts from Africa for like 20 billions while spent less than ever on social welfare.
sygede 1 month ago
@yoyuepz main stream media? you sure you are not referring to your CCTV and People's Daily?
sygede 1 month ago
@sygede Nope, I see inbetween the lines. And you have less and less freedom in the west, high oil prices, more gov intervention, higher taxes. Of course china has a long way to go before they are "free" but I look at china today in 2011 and I look at china in 1989 and 1969 so much as changed. they came out of a great depression under mao and now they desire profit. Where as the west is going back into a depression, good luck with your "freedom in china" coz all i know you a lieing.
yoyuepz 1 month ago
@sygede yea their economy is doing well, but communism never lasts. people need freedom
711DAS 1 month ago
@711DAS Communism does not necessarily correlate to a lack of freedom. Ideal, Marxist communism is way, way less authoritarian than what was implemented in China and the USSR. At the same time, however, communism is only "ideal" for industrializing countries.
Truth118 1 month ago
this isn't too far off from the current state of affairs..
IreneBodomChild 1 month ago
@IreneBodomChild I know I explain to people about this and about economy but everyone keeps saying "why would it affect me im sure they resolve something" and then "your paranoid freak".. these days I dont even bother explaining myself to people, because its pointless.
yoyuepz 1 month ago
@yoyuepz explain what?
marioncullen16 1 month ago
I think this is the NWO. If you know what does it mean write to me
GorgenGortex 1 month ago
INGSOC aka DHS welcome to 1984.
The military will soon be on the streets arresting Americans.
ARBuilder1776 1 month ago
theres a lot of 70's bush in this film if you know what i mean......
TheYesWinston 2 months ago
All these big brother dystopias are always set in britain... like the americans are subliming telling us we aint free... and i dont think we are lol!!!
TheYesWinston 2 months ago
I was thinking North Korea too.
Rock74 2 months ago
North Korea anyone?
XxRusty96xX 2 months ago
The U.S. government got the idea for 9/11 from this book.
BOTNETLOL 2 months ago 2
this has already begun
Ron Paul or BUST
RonPaulForPres012 2 months ago 2
I just finished reading this book, chilling to see how George Orwell's vision is not that far off in today's society.
jnctf 2 months ago 32
@jnctf islam is exactly the same like it is described in "1984". just replace big brother with god or allah, the party with umma or islam, and you do not have to change another word. this concept of political form exists much longer ... it isn't a new one, just everybody thinks it is because of communism and nazi germany in the last century. but this is not true. the origin of totalitarianism is in religion itself. mainly in the three monotheisms. islam-watch. org/MohdAbdullah/1984.htm
venustasveritatis 1 month ago
@venustasveritatis stop being ignorant...you shouldnt judge a religion on this...no offence
Yadira1ism 4 weeks ago
@Yadira1ism it's not an ordinary religion. it's an ideology. a totalitarian ideology. it's exactly the same. why are you so offended? I think you the one who's ignorant. orwell wrote that a totalitarian state is like a theocracy. "war is peace. freedom is slavery. ignorance is strength." in other words: jihad will bring peace, freedom is submission(islam), (blind) faith is strenght. f you can't see these parallels you're blind and you know nothing really about his works or about himself.
venustasveritatis 4 weeks ago
@venustasveritatis I'm sorry, but what kind of Islam do you know about? Because what you said is NOTHING like the Islam I know. Just because -some- countries are theocratic and are Islamic, doesn't mean that Islam is like Ingsoc. Based on your reasoning, someone could say that Catholic Christianity is like Ingsoc as well, based on the Inquisition. However, we don't, because we know that's not the case.
Galakrond 3 weeks ago
@Galakrond I think you didn't get it... religions(not just islam) are totalitarian. and theocracies are the worst of them. you want to know why? because there is no escape. you can die and leave north korea or orwell's world. but you can't do that in monotheistic religions. you can't escape. it's utter, it's complete. they've only just started with you when you'll die. the real "fun" begins at the point of death. it's the worst form of totalitarianism our species has ever invented.
venustasveritatis 3 weeks ago
@Galakrond /watch?v=eefS0gayKFc
venustasveritatis 3 weeks ago
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@Galakrond it's senseless, I thought you were a freethinker but you are a totalitarian. if god sends it... if mohammad made it to let everyone elsa submit and have control over them. look, it's like in 1984, you are trying to defend it at any price, a slave = ABDullah. if big brothers ( allah) says it then is not evil, bad, or totalitarian right? idiotic thinking
venustasveritatis 3 weeks ago
@Yadira1ism /watch?v=qbnfskyB81M
venustasveritatis 4 weeks ago
@jnctf Not really, I;m inclined to think that Huxley's vision in "brave new world" is more spot-on, and the two are quite opposite
meowandmeow 4 weeks ago
Sean Connery has retired and is quite ill from what I understand. Good choice though.
amishwiseguy 2 months ago
A vision of the future, if we're not careful.
shades2 2 months ago
1:30 'where terrorism is exploited by the state': patriot act, iraq and afghanistan invasions anybody?
stoneman289 2 months ago 3
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RESIST THE NEW WORLD ORDER
LaurenKarablabla 2 months ago
LOL. Rated R for REALLY HAPPENING NOW. LAWLAWLAWL.
TheCoExister 2 months ago 5
a nation at war with eastasia? eurasia? who!? haha
idiolectmang 2 months ago
@idiolectmang
You must be american.
MrMalikic 2 months ago
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idiolectmang 2 months ago
@MrMalikic so how is that relevant?
idiolectmang 2 months ago
Epic book and epic movie.. And soon something like this will be our reallity.. We long ago started to heading to this kind of reality..
kristijan1985 2 months ago
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cctv police state everywhere, martial law & microchipped population, media control, speech & thought control... that's just the edge of it, and it's already clear to be seen as we look around at our society.
lilyeve222 2 months ago
I like this movie and I love the book!
cosmicjets 2 months ago
If they adapt this book within the next decade, they need Christopher Nolan to direct, Colin Firth to play Winston, Sean Connery as O'Brien, and Emma Watson to play Julia.
This film would work in our modern time as it can be a disturbing reminder of the way things are in our current society, and remind the people that a totalitarian world, maybe not as severe as Orwell's vision, can become a reality
And in the trailer, they should use the song Sound of Silence.
That's my shitty opinion.
Resurrected2011 2 months ago 87