No offense taken, I did let myself get carried away. One of these days I'm gonna have to stop being lazy and do a massive overhaul of the videos on my channel.
The initial intention of the GLF was to promote to keep each other safe, watch each others' backs and what not. This of the GLF as the snot nosed younger-brother to S.O.P.H.I.E.; it picks fights and tends to be an asshole but wants nothing more than to help people out.
And on a side note, if we seem to fit the mold here then definitely check out S.O.P.H.I.E. Their approach isn't as head-strong as ours.
When most people become part of a scene its because they like the music and clothes and want to spend time with people of similar interests not because they want to seperate themselves from the rest of humanity. Also most members of scenes dont define themselves as such. Thats why most "goths" are not going to have time for stuff like the GLF. Im not a goth myself but i am part of a fairly allternative scene so to an extent im familier with the issues raised.
You do raise a valid point in that people in any given scene don't really consider themselves as such, i'm not 100% with you on why they wouldn't have time for the GLF. They don't follow the dress code of what's considered to be 'goth' to draw attention to themselves but rather the opposite. The reason Goths don't like the GLF is because it draws attention.
Sorry i can't better explain it...but that's a basic run down...
Philly is notorious for having people who are very difficult to deal with. Not just goths, but people in general. But you would think with all the lashing out against goths, they might be a little more interested in helping.
god,its bullshit.being discriminated over stupid sit.damm,if people don't get this,that just proves the ignorance of societity,and i do beleave media does fuck it up even more,just the other fucking day,i was falsely acused of being a satanist and nearly gotton beaten up of this fucken rumor.........it sickens me that how the fuck that ple whould just beat u up or even fucken kill you just over being yourself.
And all i'm saying is don't be a fucking dick when you tell someone to get over it. It's just as easy to tell someone, "Hey, it's cool. It's not the end of the world." without dropping insults.
Also, shyvr was originally used as a nick for Unreal Tournament.
i'd honestly like you to say all of these things to that young woman's mother and see if she takes it as well as i do, Miss blissfullydead89. Just because your experience is different you have the right to say to others it's not a big deal. Aren't you a fucking hero...
And yes, i'm enjoying you pestering me. Getting heat from someone who's name is obviously nothing related to Emo is definately making think twice about my choice of life style.
Actually, it was just yesterday. Apparently people don't like the noise of punk music blaring from a car.
Trust me, I get fucked with all the time for my appearance, my music choice, everything. Yet, I don't post rants on youtube about it. I simply tell them like it is. I say "hey man, fuck off. you're nobody." Unlike you, you give me something to do. I pester you, and you reply with stuff that makes me laugh. I'm simply stating the fact that you should lighten up and get over it, Mr Shyvr.
Wow, so people simply heckled you. You're life has never been threatened, you've never had people hold guns or knives to your face for the way you look. What a surprise. And here you just think you can justify what you say cuz someone said something about the music in your car. Well don't you feel bigger now for insulting me? Nevermind the fact a young woman is dead now for the very same reason and the local law of the area wants to blanket all of this...
I just have nothing better to do for the moment so I'm talking shit.
I think its stupid how you go on and on talk about goths like they're a different race. Its just a stupid subculture where a bunch of kids write dark poetry, go to raves, and obsess over meaningless shit. Honestly, the world has got more important issues to deal with than some goth kid getting jumped for wearing makeup. Don't complain if you do something out of the norm and you get fucked with.
Well, congradulations on successfully using up time to talk shit. So tell me when the last time you were fucked with for any reason? i'm sure you didn't complain about it like you've been complaining to me for the past couple of days over a video you happened across.
Blissfullydead...yeah, that's not dramatic. And no, i'm not gonna go fuck off and sit in a dark corner. Got a problem with that? i sincerely hope you do, cuz if you keep watching my videos you're only gonna get more and more pissed off...which is what i want you to do!
he's right the TRUE GOTH'S need to stand together one of my female friends was almost RAPED 4 BEING GOTHIC but thank god (figure of speech) me and my friends were there and damn near killed the bastards true goth or someone trying to fit in stand together damn it no one can make it alone
I understand your frustration. I'm not even a part of my local scene because the few local goths I've met were rude to me when I tried to make friends with them on the bus.
What is to become of you once your gone or you idealism has faded? 1000 yrs from now these "attacks" wont matter. move out and put the make up away. Oi! Oi!
It's obvious what'll become of me once i'm gone. They'll bury me! So what you're saying is since it won't matter in a 1,000 years i should quit now, eh? Well, in turn, your words won't matter in 1,000 years either. So i'm not going to listen to them now...
I've personally never understood it and annoyed by the old "I'm a darker goth than you" I think it has turned into a fashion trend for a lot of people but its difficult to be able to get out of something so out of hand.
This is the reason why i decided to take up the reigns for GLF Philly. i see it in Philly all the damned time and i just want it to come to a sudden end...
Thanks for taking the constructive criticism the right way.
Catvore 7 months ago
Goddamn! Sorry, but you gotta ease up on your passion. Don't intend to offend, but its unattractive.
Catvore 8 months ago
@Catvore
No offense taken, I did let myself get carried away. One of these days I'm gonna have to stop being lazy and do a massive overhaul of the videos on my channel.
shyvr 8 months ago
This guy is what? 30 years old, living at home and scared to wake up his parents?
suprasnhoodies 9 months ago
@suprasnhoodies
Yeah, pretty much. Economy sucks, no money, divorce, health issues, any excuse that gets you through the day...
shyvr 9 months ago
The initial intention of the GLF was to promote to keep each other safe, watch each others' backs and what not. This of the GLF as the snot nosed younger-brother to S.O.P.H.I.E.; it picks fights and tends to be an asshole but wants nothing more than to help people out.
And on a side note, if we seem to fit the mold here then definitely check out S.O.P.H.I.E. Their approach isn't as head-strong as ours.
shyvr 2 years ago
but i think you need to focus on keeping safe an individual rather than put in down to anti gothic hate crimes or whatever
xraygegz5 2 years ago
When most people become part of a scene its because they like the music and clothes and want to spend time with people of similar interests not because they want to seperate themselves from the rest of humanity. Also most members of scenes dont define themselves as such. Thats why most "goths" are not going to have time for stuff like the GLF. Im not a goth myself but i am part of a fairly allternative scene so to an extent im familier with the issues raised.
xraygegz5 2 years ago
You do raise a valid point in that people in any given scene don't really consider themselves as such, i'm not 100% with you on why they wouldn't have time for the GLF. They don't follow the dress code of what's considered to be 'goth' to draw attention to themselves but rather the opposite. The reason Goths don't like the GLF is because it draws attention.
Sorry i can't better explain it...but that's a basic run down...
shyvr 2 years ago
Philly is notorious for having people who are very difficult to deal with. Not just goths, but people in general. But you would think with all the lashing out against goths, they might be a little more interested in helping.
Some people never learn.
disasterinprogress 2 years ago
god,its bullshit.being discriminated over stupid sit.damm,if people don't get this,that just proves the ignorance of societity,and i do beleave media does fuck it up even more,just the other fucking day,i was falsely acused of being a satanist and nearly gotton beaten up of this fucken rumor.........it sickens me that how the fuck that ple whould just beat u up or even fucken kill you just over being yourself.
kittykat490 3 years ago
Its the fucking cure, dude.
And by the way I'm a guy, so I'll give you that point. haha.
but honestly, I've been jumped and all sorts of shit in my life time for the way i dress and what i say.
I'm just saying get over it.
its simple!
Be happy!!!!
Brighten up your room.
Listen to ska.
All I'm saying is all the goths here moan over shit like you're doing. I admit whatever happened to that woman was probably bad. but its whatever.
blissfullydead89 3 years ago
And all i'm saying is don't be a fucking dick when you tell someone to get over it. It's just as easy to tell someone, "Hey, it's cool. It's not the end of the world." without dropping insults.
Also, shyvr was originally used as a nick for Unreal Tournament.
shyvr 3 years ago
By the way, How long did it take you to make up you're little goth name?
Or was it given to you at a rave?
I really want to know how long you sat in your dark room and thought about it.
For real.
blissfullydead89 3 years ago
i'd honestly like you to say all of these things to that young woman's mother and see if she takes it as well as i do, Miss blissfullydead89. Just because your experience is different you have the right to say to others it's not a big deal. Aren't you a fucking hero...
And yes, i'm enjoying you pestering me. Getting heat from someone who's name is obviously nothing related to Emo is definately making think twice about my choice of life style.
shyvr 3 years ago
You're really ignorant. Why do you watch it if you know you will have a prtoblem with it?
Grave187RIP13 3 years ago
maybe he is just giving him some constructive criticism. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean that they are ignorant.
MarkSamurai5 3 years ago
Disagreeing is not a problem, at least they are giving some form of opinion. But when it comes to insults, it's a whole different matter.
If i thought everyone was going to agree with me then i'd have no right to do these videos, let alone saying what i'm saying.
i'm only allowed 500 characters so i'll just leave at this: constructive criticism, good; insults in general...not so good.
But i do appreciate the input, nonetheless.
shyvr 3 years ago
i agree with you
MarkSamurai5 3 years ago
Actually, it was just yesterday. Apparently people don't like the noise of punk music blaring from a car.
Trust me, I get fucked with all the time for my appearance, my music choice, everything. Yet, I don't post rants on youtube about it. I simply tell them like it is. I say "hey man, fuck off. you're nobody." Unlike you, you give me something to do. I pester you, and you reply with stuff that makes me laugh. I'm simply stating the fact that you should lighten up and get over it, Mr Shyvr.
blissfullydead89 3 years ago
Wow, so people simply heckled you. You're life has never been threatened, you've never had people hold guns or knives to your face for the way you look. What a surprise. And here you just think you can justify what you say cuz someone said something about the music in your car. Well don't you feel bigger now for insulting me? Nevermind the fact a young woman is dead now for the very same reason and the local law of the area wants to blanket all of this...
shyvr 3 years ago
I'm not pissed.
I just have nothing better to do for the moment so I'm talking shit.
I think its stupid how you go on and on talk about goths like they're a different race. Its just a stupid subculture where a bunch of kids write dark poetry, go to raves, and obsess over meaningless shit. Honestly, the world has got more important issues to deal with than some goth kid getting jumped for wearing makeup. Don't complain if you do something out of the norm and you get fucked with.
blissfullydead89 3 years ago
Well, congradulations on successfully using up time to talk shit. So tell me when the last time you were fucked with for any reason? i'm sure you didn't complain about it like you've been complaining to me for the past couple of days over a video you happened across.
shyvr 3 years ago
you're so fucking dramatic. Get over your fucking self.
Honestly, watching this video made me think of that skit on SNL with that one guy who just rambles but never gets to his point.
Fuck off and go sit in a dark corner.
you're worse than an emo kid.
blissfullydead89 3 years ago
Blissfullydead...yeah, that's not dramatic. And no, i'm not gonna go fuck off and sit in a dark corner. Got a problem with that? i sincerely hope you do, cuz if you keep watching my videos you're only gonna get more and more pissed off...which is what i want you to do!
shyvr 3 years ago
he's right the TRUE GOTH'S need to stand together one of my female friends was almost RAPED 4 BEING GOTHIC but thank god (figure of speech) me and my friends were there and damn near killed the bastards true goth or someone trying to fit in stand together damn it no one can make it alone
mandatswx2 3 years ago
I understand your frustration. I'm not even a part of my local scene because the few local goths I've met were rude to me when I tried to make friends with them on the bus.
outstretchedwings 3 years ago
i support the gothic libertaion front
i gives you a big thumbs up and great points man
JaradZix 3 years ago 2
What is to become of you once your gone or you idealism has faded? 1000 yrs from now these "attacks" wont matter. move out and put the make up away. Oi! Oi!
xxswtxtragedyxx 3 years ago
It's obvious what'll become of me once i'm gone. They'll bury me! So what you're saying is since it won't matter in a 1,000 years i should quit now, eh? Well, in turn, your words won't matter in 1,000 years either. So i'm not going to listen to them now...
shyvr 3 years ago
im listening too.. im with you hun *stands united we stand hun*
vampirepriestess 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
shut the fuck up with this bullshit goddamn....
tttake2 3 years ago
Don't like it, stop listening...
shyvr 3 years ago
I've personally never understood it and annoyed by the old "I'm a darker goth than you" I think it has turned into a fashion trend for a lot of people but its difficult to be able to get out of something so out of hand.
Cerustar 3 years ago 2
i never understood it either, honestly. Through the eyes of outsiders, we're nothing but misguided, rebels, or targets. That's no way to live at all!
x a n
shyvr 3 years ago
Thank you for the response! These fights and petty disagreements within the gothic subculture piss me off to no end.
RavenAmongDoves 4 years ago
This is the reason why i decided to take up the reigns for GLF Philly. i see it in Philly all the damned time and i just want it to come to a sudden end...
shyvr 3 years ago
At least you're trying!
cdowg187 4 years ago