Anyone who puts forth Pascal's Wager is an idiot. They obviously don't think God is smart enough to see through the BS and know that the "believer" is just worshiping Him out of fear and not out of faith.
Ever notice that the one thing VFX can't stand is people defying him?
Thick book? That's rich. Each Harry Potter book at least about as thick as the bible, most are much thicker. And there are SEVEN of them! I guess Harry Potter must be true.
You should be open to the idea that God is a dick and is just lying to you about everything, because being all powerful he would have no problem doing this.
You cannot prove that God is telling the truth, so you should be open to the possibility that he exists, just not in the way you think he does.
My experience is not invalid, however i dont use it and tell atheist about it since that not point of it, it your own experience, and for me my experience was it was logical one, where came up 2 points, one what happens if i am wrong about god, and what likely hood that im wrong about god. and now not going to share you my findings
is tooltime9901, is he for Christianity and dislike fang? because of his flawed logic view on everything and he being unnecessary stereotype for Christan we dont need? i think Subs 4 Jesus is obvious but just checking if its an and
I love Venomfangx. He makes creationists look (If its at all possible) ever more stupid than they are. Its hilarious I can just hear creationists now saying "Oh shut up we dont need your help - please just SHUT UP!" lol
Yes I only liked one of his videos, and disliked rest, it when he street preaching and went into argument with another a LOGICAL one, assuming if where morals come from, if god did exist and where id come from if he didn't that only video where he does both sides i seen. he just needs to shut up, it doesn't matter how people view world, as long they follow Jesus.
I am a creationist who reads and debate the evo vs creation literature all the time. Sometimes I have had VenomFangX thrown in my face. He embarrasses me. Some of the things he says are so lacking in science that I could get really paranoid and wonder if he is a disinformationist for the evo side, to make creationists look like idiots.
... i havent done anything to appologise to god about?? what is wrong with theists...
the worst thing is the kid is a reasonably intelegent well spoken person,misguided yes, he will talk his way through life and do well for himself.... i wanna twat him...
To me, what is most pathetic about this kid is that he, as every teenager in the world with identity crisis, imitates his beloved idol. in his case: kent hovind. uggh!
5:20 well you don't know that there is not an evil dragon eating a giant yellow hippo wearing a hat in a faraway galaxy so it could be true therefore im going to believe it because i don't know its not there dumbshit
......and nothing came from nothing with a 9999999999999999999+ chance into another 99999999999999999 chance into many more chances with the number 999999999999999999.......yes way to go atheists
way to make an ass of yourself on youtube..nothing came from nothing?..what the hell is that supposed to mean?
there's something..that much is obvious..no one knows why. no one knows how. don't make an ass of yourself and imply that god is the answer to the mystery..it just goes to show how weak minded u are in the fact that u can't admit to yourself that u just don't know.
yeah, weak-minded..u can't handle the fact that this life, this reality, is an utter mystery. u need god. u need an answer. so, u assert an answer. and what's your answer?..a fucking god..it's 2011!!...where's lightning come from?..Zeus. where's war come from?..Ramses. where'd reality come from? why are we here?..lemme guess, God?..the biblical god to be exact?..the one who morphed into a human and rose from the dead and performed miracles? lol, man oh man.
@itzahazylife yeah its crazy......even people who were there did not believe........it just goes to show that people want to live their own way and do what they want-without a care in the world.
bullshit..i don't refuse to believe in the bible because i wanna do what i want. i don't believe in the bible, because like u said, IT'S CRAZY..
i consider myself a very moral person and i care about a lot of things. point is, i don't need a 2000 year old book, or believe in some magical god, to do so..neither do u and neither does anybody.
2:52.When you say he refutes himself.He doesn't, listen more clearly.I didn't want to go into every other thing u thought he *refuted against himself* in the rest of the video.The scientific method is inside of the universe,he exclaims that god does NOT exist inside of it.You had to listen closely to get that one
@cruciphile Blasphemy in the face of the Encyclopedists. Acknowledge our thicker book, or be damned to hell, found in the H section. And we shall have an update in the future. Oh yes, we'll have an update, once some sort of internet system exists, and it shall be copied by everybody for nearly every subject and viewpoint, with the end of the world coming shortly after the conservative/evangelical version of it appearing. So our book says, under P for prophecies are a pile of crap.lol
If we institutionalize nutters for talking to imaginary people, why are all these theists allowed to walk the streets freely? Religion is just a dressed-up word for a mental disease.
I'm just going to throw this out there, I was raised in the church, both of my parents are very religious and very loving. I do not believe in god, I made this decision this year, he does not exist he has never existed. I have been to church camps, church, all of my life. I have experienced this 'god' but I dismissed it as feelings and influence of what a speaker has said to me.. So, what Shaun said about experience, is utterbullshit. Just my two cents, love your vids by the way bro.
So, by discouraging others from accepting religion, we'll be punished worse then we could ever imagine... more so then being an Atheist to begin with? How can we get punished more? Fang is a tool and a douche.
That, or it'll come out 20 years later that he was always a closeted homosexual and liked to play catcher. Which I wouldn't be surprised at for a single second.
PCS blocked me too. It's amazing that, despite the fact that every one of his videos gets thousands of comments, he's actually able to sort through them all, find all the comments he takes offense to and block the person who wrote it.
the absolute only thing that is more annoying than VFX's rediculous views and reasoning is his fucking face when he says the shit!!! i wish he would suck start a .45
5:26 - 5:42 I laughed my ass off when I first heard this. "YOU BETTER NOT COME ON TO YOUTUBE SAYING 'THERE IS NO GOD' BECAUSE.... well it's not very nice".
No shit Sherlock. And besides, doesn't he do the same thing to atheists? I mean almost all his videos are about spreading this idea that atheists are close-minded bullies who get a kick out of making fun of religion. And telling atheists to shut up because we don't support his beliefs doesn't make him anymore correct.
Are you sure he is not a crypto-jew? He looks a bit like he might be jewish, and his speech patterns and body language look VERY jewish. They do this sort of thing... Claim to be a Christian, but then act like a COMPLETE A-HOLE in order to make Christians look bad.
All Christians who claim they "experienced" God actually "hallucinated" God. Religion is a drug, just like peyote. And peyote is used for religious purposes. Peter, you made a very good point in your video, "Religion is a Drug". Religion is a mental drug, like peyote is a physical drug.
VenomFangX has, what I call, "Kelly Bundy" syndrome. He calls smart people stupid for stupid reasons. Hes reasoning is so ridiculous that it is laughably. He should start a philosophical show, and put it on the comedy channel
@Ulfvaldr2012 Nah, it's just aspergers. I have to believe that, otherwise the only other option is he is a sociopath, and does this because he needs to, "win.".
@Ulfvaldr2012 Just because someone isn't intelligent, does not mean that they cannot be without a conscience. Having no conscience is what makes someone a sociopath. Not the level of their intelligence.
You can be a stone cold retarded person, or a genius, and still be a sociopath. No empathy, no understanding of what empathy actually feels like, and unable to understand how your actions make other people feel (negatively, or positively).
You're just out to "win" as it is commonly referenced.
"Experience as a general concept comprises knowledge of or skill in or observation of some thing or some event gained through involvement in or exposure to that thing or event.[1]"
How can tooltime say that "personal experience is not proof of *anything *
@Treefrogs2 Yea, and it's not always accurate. There is a HUGE problem with witnesses forgetting/altering certain facts, giving false information and so on. Memory isn't particularly the most reliable source of evidence.
They still use witnesses because it's the next best thing to hard evidence (CCTV etc.) but it certainly doesn't make it undeniable proof.
Not to mention I've 'experienced' God, when I tripped balls on acid. Dehydrated? Hungry? Tired? Same can happen, but it isn't proof
He is hiding from the best and brightest of mankind? These "best and brightest" had arguments for the existence of God. It seems that skeptics of those arguments are the only ones who believe it is hard to ration God. So are you claiming that you are the "best and brightest?" Watch those words, my friend.
I think the one thing you do not understand is that VF's position is that he knows God exists, and he knows this because of experience and logic. He is just bad at arguing.
finally! someone else who uses the lord of the rings in comparison to the bible. but i must say that arguing with venomfangx is like arguing with a mental patient. easy but doesn't affect the guy you beat.
As far as I recall VFX's parents have put Shawn into a cult rehabilitation therapy. Even his parents knew that he was in a cult following and pulled him from the school he was in because it was making things worse rather than better as they hoped it would.
Who knows, maybe some day we'll see an apology video for his idiocy at some point.
@ocf1fan1 There were a few videos of Atheists he has 'debated with' referring to an e-mail his parents sent. They seemed pretty sincere about what they were saying and they wished his parents and him the best of luck so I'm inclined to believe he is currently being rehabilitated.
according to VFX halo must be real. its got a book several infact so it must be real. join the unsc today...maybe u'll get in cortanas pants...orshould i say play with her bianary code ;)
but .. but how does he know what he experienced really is God..
it could just be an intelligent being who's screwing with people who doesn't deserve to be in a high position and the real God could have never even spoken to us..
dude, i really like your videos, but it seems like you could have thought this through a little better. draw some pictures or something, your ideas are all over the place.
making an argument in the religious field is hard work... but you can do better than this
Tell me that shawn didnt do that!!! hold up a book and say "this is awfully thick, it must be true" please tell me he didnt do that and that he didnt took it seriosly!!!!.
Isn't saying that god exists outside the universe like saying god does not exist in our physical reality, which is like saying god does not exist to us which in turn means that there is no god? Idiot.
I don't see how launching strawmen, arguments from negative consequences, and misunderstanding science and atheism are "pwning." The time I heard about VFX being involved in any sort of "pwnage," it was when he was "pwned" right off the internet by his own family in response to his lunacy.
Strawman is a logical fallacy in which you set an argument that looks like an argument that you are trying to defeat, but is in fact not the same argument. An example is Kirk Cameron's crocoduck. An argument from negative consequences is a logical fallacy in which you argue that something can't be true because it would entail a negative consequence, or it must be true to avoid one. For example, arguing that you should believe in Allah or go to hell is such an argument.
These types of argument were VFX stock in trade. He never really presented anything that was new or even correct. He often insulted non believers and made false portrayals of their arguments.
As for pwned off the net, VFX family has banned him from posting any longer. He was forced off of youtube after filing false DMCA's and then stealing donations that he originally said were going to a children's hospital.
@VigilanteNighthawk o yes , he pwned but wz also pwned becuz i think that he took it a little too far, im a Christian and i like SOME of the things he says, but not as he duz
Atheists always wind up doing this. It is inevitable. Theists also argue from bias, but they admit it, they call it faith.
"personal experience is not proof of anything". Lol.
So if Tool Time sees Ghandi murder someone, and I don't believe it because I don't believe Ghandi would do such a thing. Tool Time's experience should not be proof to him that Ghandi murdered someone?
You would never apply this argument to your own life.
a single thought.... ask him if he knows how internet works... his answer?: " dont"... and then his justification.... internet was created by.... ??? you know it xD lol.... yep, god needed facebook to congregate his followers...
I love how all religious people basically paint the same picture of God, an absent father-figure who could give a shit about his people, and acts remarkably like a drunk, getting mad at a person for no reason, and never forgiving them.
@Domodeath I have seen heaven too. I see it every day right here on earth. When two strangers hug a tiny heaven is formed. When a seedling bursts forth from its shell a tiny heaven is formed. I know heaven when I hear my son laugh. Heaven is everywhere if you can see it. I do not believe in a "god" or follow a religion yet I can see exactly what you see. How is this so?
Oh yeah, you can totally see that little shit (Shawn) persecuting the heretics in another age. What a little hypocrite! Telling people that they will go to hell and pretending there is only one religion in the world to fill that "void' in knowledge could fit... THAT'S not nice much either If that little git had and idea of the wealth of extensive knowledge that free-thinkers share his tiny brain would implode to the exposure to actual critical rigour.
...hang on a moment...if the universe (not to mention the "multi-verse") is "infinite...does that not mean that somewhere there's a planet where Venomflange is RIGHT about everything....???
How can THAT be.?..that would mean there's an angry, moody, petty spiteful "God"(as described by VF and other crazy over-the-top Christians)..and also (because of THIS planet..where people that say VF is an moron)..there wouldn't be such a God?
Mathematics doesn't prove there's a ghost in my toilet but I've seen her...she's a turn of the century chinese girl...pretty scary..but a bit funny cos she's stuck in my toilet forever.
LMFAO @ venomflange bitching around 6.00...wtf is he talking about "not nice"...to God?..."we all deserve to be punished for the things we've done to God, cos God is perfect and holy and blah blah..."
I bet "HE" isn't like that..if there is a God, I reckon he'd hate ass-kissing fuckers like venom-fanx.. and send him "downstairs" for being such an annoying bitch....
I reckon he'd probably like ME, and be interested in my list of "complaints and suggestions" about his universe.
The Bible is a very thick book...it is NOT well-written though. "a page turner"..I've read thicker books that was a far better read...it isn't what you'd call .
on another note...I've "experienced God"...you'd probably say it was "invalid" because I've taken a SHIT LOAD of acid.
but do you know everything?..of course not..do I know half of anything?..fu*k knows, I've forgotten what I was talking about....
Hello folks...can someone tell me more about "naturalism"..I don't want to be "an athiest" because they are just buzz-killing douche-bags..and I don't want to be an "agnostic" cos THAT is just blatant "fence-sitting".
I DO kind of believe that there is some "equation" to the universe, which could be defined as "God"...but I don't want to praise or worship that "equation" because it would be like a bacteria on a toilet seat praying to the toilet seat and asking it for favours every night...
@homerbear46 fantastic...you ask the right questions! i'm a kinda weird cross of gaian and humanist. we're a unique essence to the enveloping universe/multiverse....that kind of guff. works for me. by the way...acid = god. : ) ps and for god's sake read terry pratchett!
@homerbear46 you sure you didn't stumble into a monty python film? by the way, i think VF should be forced to read "foundation". it'll either blow his little mind or kill him through boredom. seriously though, if you haven't already, read some terry pratchett man. got religion pegged down to death. fucking funny too.
I bet my grandmother if in some horrid universe teh scientific method proved Gods existence without a shadow of a doubt...Creationists would laud the merits of it. Cry it from the highest mountain tops.
wow, i cant believe how ignorant and stupid he is! he was forced to resort to threatening us of hell if we don't believe! well, i would rather go to hell than bow down to a god that would do something so evil as to send anyone to hell for not believing in the absense of evidence!
@HaveFaithInScience LOL I thought you would be busy tearing the skull of an imprisoned Monkey for research. or better yet, smashing sub atomic particles just to see what would happen.
You obviously have no idea about "meaning" and the human experience. Life isnt a court case you know LOL.
for the record, I consider you equally dangerous as the evangelicals.
It's funny that Jesus is denouncing this creationist guy.
Garrence88 6 days ago
Anyone who puts forth Pascal's Wager is an idiot. They obviously don't think God is smart enough to see through the BS and know that the "believer" is just worshiping Him out of fear and not out of faith.
Ever notice that the one thing VFX can't stand is people defying him?
rrward 2 weeks ago
Subscribed, great video man, keep 'em coming.
SomeOddworld 3 weeks ago
"lalalalal can't hear you lalalalala goddidit lalalala"
goreziad 2 months ago 3
You are just a parrot repeating what you've heard.
dec4dence 2 months ago
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@dec4dence You are just a parrot repeating what you've heard.
JEL625 1 month ago
lol VenomFang is so cocky. He's like Dennis on Always Sunny.
vandermade24 2 months ago
@dangerics no, but we have the start of invisibility cloaks. In 20, 30, 100 years time. But I don't want you to remember this - Obliviate!
Damn, spells don't work down telephone lines.
micmac274 3 months ago
Thick book? That's rich. Each Harry Potter book at least about as thick as the bible, most are much thicker. And there are SEVEN of them! I guess Harry Potter must be true.
Anyone know a vanishing spell?
dangerics 3 months ago
He bases all of his evidence on the assumption that his God exists.
It also depends on your definition of perfect. From what I know of the bible, I certainly would not call him perfect. Not by a long shot.
And why should a finite crime be met with infinite punishment? That makes no sense, unless God is a sadist.
VFX proposes pascals wager as proof of God. This is not proof, it is just fear of potential consequences.
ps atheists gain the betterment of humanity by disproving God's existence.
:)
MegaSolipsist 4 months ago
You should be open to the idea that God is a dick and is just lying to you about everything, because being all powerful he would have no problem doing this.
You cannot prove that God is telling the truth, so you should be open to the possibility that he exists, just not in the way you think he does.
MegaSolipsist 4 months ago
oh noez the wrath of god!
Excellent video TT!
batchoftruth 4 months ago
This was one of TT"S masterpieces
35TCK 4 months ago
VenomfangX should meet the people at good ol Westboro Baptist Church xDD.
adam120890 5 months ago
My experience is not invalid, however i dont use it and tell atheist about it since that not point of it, it your own experience, and for me my experience was it was logical one, where came up 2 points, one what happens if i am wrong about god, and what likely hood that im wrong about god. and now not going to share you my findings
soMeRandoM670 5 months ago
is tooltime9901, is he for Christianity and dislike fang? because of his flawed logic view on everything and he being unnecessary stereotype for Christan we dont need? i think Subs 4 Jesus is obvious but just checking if its an and
soMeRandoM670 5 months ago
I love Venomfangx. He makes creationists look (If its at all possible) ever more stupid than they are. Its hilarious I can just hear creationists now saying "Oh shut up we dont need your help - please just SHUT UP!" lol
dborg321 5 months ago
@dborg321
Yes I only liked one of his videos, and disliked rest, it when he street preaching and went into argument with another a LOGICAL one, assuming if where morals come from, if god did exist and where id come from if he didn't that only video where he does both sides i seen. he just needs to shut up, it doesn't matter how people view world, as long they follow Jesus.
soMeRandoM670 5 months ago
You know, I often wondered if Shawn was just an incredibly clever Poe...but nah, he's just an idiot
Bernstein1917 5 months ago
IDIOCRACY 2 starring venomfangx!!!!
MonkeySpecs301 6 months ago
Did he just use pascals wager....?
Muzikman127 6 months ago
Before he promised us life, Jesus warned us that a thief would try to kill, steal and destroy it. John 10:10
ndrummer99 6 months ago
I hate the look on that snotty little bastard's face.
Smug little asshole.
yackon4game 6 months ago
Damn, my bible is less than of the size of his. It has half of the books too, I've checked XD. That bitch is huge!
MyriadCharm 6 months ago
@MyriadCharm oops, all of the books lol, funny because my origin of species book is a lot thicker XD
MyriadCharm 6 months ago
1.Replace the word "god" with "invisible pink unicorn" in Venomfangx's speech.
2. Realize the invisible pink unicorn exists.
3. ???
4. Profit!
MsYpsylon 7 months ago
An evolutionist that looks like an ape........You can't make this shit up
bahdahdoop 8 months ago
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WaltonSauce 7 months ago
@bahdahdoop
God: you did make that shit up
Evidence, you can't make that shit up.
WaltonSauce 7 months ago
@WaltonSauce I'm a deist. Save your evangelical atheism for the religious zealots.
bahdahdoop 7 months ago
HAHAHA LORD OF THE RINGS BOOK XD
Silence21x 8 months ago
I am a creationist who reads and debate the evo vs creation literature all the time. Sometimes I have had VenomFangX thrown in my face. He embarrasses me. Some of the things he says are so lacking in science that I could get really paranoid and wonder if he is a disinformationist for the evo side, to make creationists look like idiots.
LoricaLady 8 months ago
this video is fucking hilarious.
thanks for this.
AllegoricalAntgonist 8 months ago
Naturalism is not self-refuting, but VenomFangX is. XD
JRC3034 9 months ago
God has to exist because thieir would be no meaning in life
hillrode12 9 months ago
@hillrode12
The fact we have only one life on it's own means it has meaning. We must do what we can to experiance theorld now or our lives are wasted.
NUTCASE71733 8 months ago
@hillrode12
living is the meaning to life.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
... i havent done anything to appologise to god about?? what is wrong with theists...
the worst thing is the kid is a reasonably intelegent well spoken person,misguided yes, he will talk his way through life and do well for himself.... i wanna twat him...
ferret630 9 months ago
... i havent done anything to appologise to god about?? what is wrong with theists...
ferret630 9 months ago
To me, what is most pathetic about this kid is that he, as every teenager in the world with identity crisis, imitates his beloved idol. in his case: kent hovind. uggh!
sirdelrio 9 months ago
ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY CREATE INTO MORDOR!
smileyking96 9 months ago
5:20 well you don't know that there is not an evil dragon eating a giant yellow hippo wearing a hat in a faraway galaxy so it could be true therefore im going to believe it because i don't know its not there dumbshit
iden39 9 months ago
......and nothing came from nothing with a 9999999999999999999+ chance into another 99999999999999999 chance into many more chances with the number 999999999999999999.......yes way to go atheists
IrnBruDude000 9 months ago
@IrnBruDude000
way to make an ass of yourself on youtube..nothing came from nothing?..what the hell is that supposed to mean?
there's something..that much is obvious..no one knows why. no one knows how. don't make an ass of yourself and imply that god is the answer to the mystery..it just goes to show how weak minded u are in the fact that u can't admit to yourself that u just don't know.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
@itzahazylife "weak minded" lol, are u one of these Jedi that rocketed to one of the top 5 religions in the uk that then dissapeared overnight.
IrnBruDude000 8 months ago
@IrnBruDude000
yeah, weak-minded..u can't handle the fact that this life, this reality, is an utter mystery. u need god. u need an answer. so, u assert an answer. and what's your answer?..a fucking god..it's 2011!!...where's lightning come from?..Zeus. where's war come from?..Ramses. where'd reality come from? why are we here?..lemme guess, God?..the biblical god to be exact?..the one who morphed into a human and rose from the dead and performed miracles? lol, man oh man.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
@itzahazylife yeah its crazy......even people who were there did not believe........it just goes to show that people want to live their own way and do what they want-without a care in the world.
IrnBruDude000 8 months ago
@IrnBruDude000
bullshit..i don't refuse to believe in the bible because i wanna do what i want. i don't believe in the bible, because like u said, IT'S CRAZY..
i consider myself a very moral person and i care about a lot of things. point is, i don't need a 2000 year old book, or believe in some magical god, to do so..neither do u and neither does anybody.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
Once again I have to say:
Nice one, tooltime! :)
auritone 9 months ago
2:52.When you say he refutes himself.He doesn't, listen more clearly.I didn't want to go into every other thing u thought he *refuted against himself* in the rest of the video.The scientific method is inside of the universe,he exclaims that god does NOT exist inside of it.You had to listen closely to get that one
urbman29 10 months ago
thicker books are truer? well then i'm glad me and my family are strict Dictionarilists.
cruciphile 10 months ago 23
@cruciphile Blasphemy in the face of the Encyclopedists. Acknowledge our thicker book, or be damned to hell, found in the H section. And we shall have an update in the future. Oh yes, we'll have an update, once some sort of internet system exists, and it shall be copied by everybody for nearly every subject and viewpoint, with the end of the world coming shortly after the conservative/evangelical version of it appearing. So our book says, under P for prophecies are a pile of crap.lol
NoNamesLeft0102 3 weeks ago 2
omg I loved the Lord of The Rings..now I'm gonna build a Church of The LOTR assembly!
Sonorite 10 months ago
If we institutionalize nutters for talking to imaginary people, why are all these theists allowed to walk the streets freely? Religion is just a dressed-up word for a mental disease.
encyclopediajake 10 months ago 2
Something that the good ol' Ricky Gervais once said - "If God exists...then why did he make me an Athiest?"
PuffyAmiYumi 11 months ago 2
Pwned. Nuff' said.
george77772moons 11 months ago
One day, someone will walk in on him fucking a bible, at which point they will make sure to forcefully crush his dick in it.
george77772moons 11 months ago
I'm just going to throw this out there, I was raised in the church, both of my parents are very religious and very loving. I do not believe in god, I made this decision this year, he does not exist he has never existed. I have been to church camps, church, all of my life. I have experienced this 'god' but I dismissed it as feelings and influence of what a speaker has said to me.. So, what Shaun said about experience, is utterbullshit. Just my two cents, love your vids by the way bro.
PuppyLovew123 11 months ago 2
So, by discouraging others from accepting religion, we'll be punished worse then we could ever imagine... more so then being an Atheist to begin with? How can we get punished more? Fang is a tool and a douche.
Blueace12345 11 months ago 2
@Blueace12345" you're only making it worse for yourself!" "worse? how could it be worse?? jehova jehova jehova!"
cruciphile 10 months ago
I could not facepalm because if I did VenomFangX would be right. The force of it would have reduced me to fourth grade intelligence.
MacabreManifesto 11 months ago
If everybody recycled as much as Shawn, we could safe the planet ;)
Xigano1 11 months ago
We can't let him procreate.
MagicActor1987 1 year ago 22
@MagicActor1987
VFX will be forever alone, I nearly guarantee it.
That, or it'll come out 20 years later that he was always a closeted homosexual and liked to play catcher. Which I wouldn't be surprised at for a single second.
JunkCCCP 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 He must procreate, so that our children are exposed to humor.
wondergundy 2 months ago
@MagicActor1987 He's gay and in love with Kent Hovind; don't worry, he won't.
TheChurchOfKali12357 2 weeks ago
mad fag is mad!
TheRavic23 1 year ago
PCS blocked me too. It's amazing that, despite the fact that every one of his videos gets thousands of comments, he's actually able to sort through them all, find all the comments he takes offense to and block the person who wrote it.
TheIntolerantAtheist 1 year ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist
Well with a name like "Intolerant Atheist" you certainly aren't hiding very well.
JunkCCCP 11 months ago
Science! It works
boshthestanbeed 1 year ago
War and Peace is a thick book too but I don't believe it either. It's just a story.
bvwatcher 1 year ago
Tooltime, I admire your patience. You can't use rational argument on an irrational person, but I appreciate your trying.
62netty 1 year ago
face palm for the win!!!
heikkala2797 1 year ago
lol @ the geico caveman trying to act smart.
vicnetto 1 year ago
the absolute only thing that is more annoying than VFX's rediculous views and reasoning is his fucking face when he says the shit!!! i wish he would suck start a .45
TheDoc1313 1 year ago
5:26 - 5:42 I laughed my ass off when I first heard this. "YOU BETTER NOT COME ON TO YOUTUBE SAYING 'THERE IS NO GOD' BECAUSE.... well it's not very nice".
No shit Sherlock. And besides, doesn't he do the same thing to atheists? I mean almost all his videos are about spreading this idea that atheists are close-minded bullies who get a kick out of making fun of religion. And telling atheists to shut up because we don't support his beliefs doesn't make him anymore correct.
VoiceoftheBoa2 1 year ago
I love Tolkein. Irrelevant yes, but I needed to let it out.
bibhuna 1 year ago
Are you sure he is not a crypto-jew? He looks a bit like he might be jewish, and his speech patterns and body language look VERY jewish. They do this sort of thing... Claim to be a Christian, but then act like a COMPLETE A-HOLE in order to make Christians look bad.
1776Matthew 1 year ago
this is the best video i've seen in a long time. Mental masturbation is awesome, especially when using philosophy as your porn.
okgo43 1 year ago
I didn't even know about VenomFangX until a few days ago. Every time I hear his voice I just want to punch him in his fucking face.
Xxxfire45xxX 1 year ago
This video is epic!
supersmash43 1 year ago
All Christians who claim they "experienced" God actually "hallucinated" God. Religion is a drug, just like peyote. And peyote is used for religious purposes. Peter, you made a very good point in your video, "Religion is a Drug". Religion is a mental drug, like peyote is a physical drug.
UnmaskedTuxedo 1 year ago
Awesome video tooltime9901! He got pwned so hard that he's probably in a mental institution now.
Vislav 1 year ago
VenomFangX has, what I call, "Kelly Bundy" syndrome. He calls smart people stupid for stupid reasons. Hes reasoning is so ridiculous that it is laughably. He should start a philosophical show, and put it on the comedy channel
Ulfvaldr2012 1 year ago 36
@Ulfvaldr2012 haha "Kelly Bundy" syndrome. I'm gonna have to remember that
AKaudy 1 year ago
@Ulfvaldr2012 Nah, it's just aspergers. I have to believe that, otherwise the only other option is he is a sociopath, and does this because he needs to, "win.".
Obsessive vs Compulsive. Both are pretty scary.
Artisn 11 months ago
@Artisn I disagree, sociopaths are, for the most part, intellegent. He is not.
Ulfvaldr2012 11 months ago
@Ulfvaldr2012 Just because someone isn't intelligent, does not mean that they cannot be without a conscience. Having no conscience is what makes someone a sociopath. Not the level of their intelligence.
You can be a stone cold retarded person, or a genius, and still be a sociopath. No empathy, no understanding of what empathy actually feels like, and unable to understand how your actions make other people feel (negatively, or positively).
You're just out to "win" as it is commonly referenced.
Artisn 11 months ago
war and peace is an awfully thick book. it surely must have been a chronicle of factual happenings.
sisseeboy 1 year ago
"Experience as a general concept comprises knowledge of or skill in or observation of some thing or some event gained through involvement in or exposure to that thing or event.[1]"
How can tooltime say that "personal experience is not proof of *anything *
Treefrogs2 1 year ago
"personal experience is not proof of anything"? Courtrooms all over the world make finding based on experiences of witnesses.........
Treefrogs2 1 year ago
@Treefrogs2 Yea, and it's not always accurate. There is a HUGE problem with witnesses forgetting/altering certain facts, giving false information and so on. Memory isn't particularly the most reliable source of evidence.
They still use witnesses because it's the next best thing to hard evidence (CCTV etc.) but it certainly doesn't make it undeniable proof.
Not to mention I've 'experienced' God, when I tripped balls on acid. Dehydrated? Hungry? Tired? Same can happen, but it isn't proof
TalonWolf 1 year ago
Love all the threats.
TheBlackSpider82 1 year ago
He is hiding from the best and brightest of mankind? These "best and brightest" had arguments for the existence of God. It seems that skeptics of those arguments are the only ones who believe it is hard to ration God. So are you claiming that you are the "best and brightest?" Watch those words, my friend.
I think the one thing you do not understand is that VF's position is that he knows God exists, and he knows this because of experience and logic. He is just bad at arguing.
KrunchyGoodness 1 year ago
@KrunchyGoodness no sweetheart. Not really. VenomFangX is just sorta arrogant and insane.
milkmankennedy 1 year ago
VenomFagX sounds like the biggest douchebag ever. Just his tone of voice is really annoying.
lesliekwan80 1 year ago
Yeah that was a Pwnage!
TheDarkSagan 1 year ago
All of the Twilight books are thick. They must be true.
My Warhammer Galaxy book is way thick. That must be even truer than Twilight.
Ho about some of the Harry Potter books?
All hail the one marked with the lightning bolt!
GojyotheFeared 1 year ago
finally! someone else who uses the lord of the rings in comparison to the bible. but i must say that arguing with venomfangx is like arguing with a mental patient. easy but doesn't affect the guy you beat.
th3vampan3z3l0rd 1 year ago
@th3vampan3z3l0rd
As far as I recall VFX's parents have put Shawn into a cult rehabilitation therapy. Even his parents knew that he was in a cult following and pulled him from the school he was in because it was making things worse rather than better as they hoped it would.
Who knows, maybe some day we'll see an apology video for his idiocy at some point.
MysteriousAya 1 year ago
@MysteriousAya it's not likely. VFX seems to arrogant...
th3vampan3z3l0rd 1 year ago
@th3vampan3z3l0rd I can hope!... In vain.
MysteriousAya 1 year ago
@MysteriousAya So how do you know so much about "Venom Fang X"?
ocf1fan1 1 year ago
@ocf1fan1 There were a few videos of Atheists he has 'debated with' referring to an e-mail his parents sent. They seemed pretty sincere about what they were saying and they wished his parents and him the best of luck so I'm inclined to believe he is currently being rehabilitated.
MysteriousAya 1 year ago
i watched a crap load of these vids and i found venom is a retard.
tainted705 1 year ago
@tainted705 Welcome to the sane side of Youtube :)
zzman305 1 year ago
@tainted705 Definitely!
TheDarkSagan 1 year ago
according to VFX halo must be real. its got a book several infact so it must be real. join the unsc today...maybe u'll get in cortanas pants...orshould i say play with her bianary code ;)
TheNightrunner666 1 year ago
Hey! You don't believe in the sacred book Lord of the Rings!!?? Blasphemer!
paulineprojectlove 1 year ago
venomfangx is fun. He is a fairly easy target for ridicule. After all he is simply a nutcase...
fmanh 1 year ago
Pascals wager anyone?
Coyotecyb 1 year ago
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@Coyotecyb "Pascals wager anyone?" Changes of winning are so low that I'll pass. :)
GeneralCalculus 1 year ago
Why the Bible's so thick:
"...And A begat B and B begat C and C begat D and D begat E..."
Daruqe 1 year ago
but .. but how does he know what he experienced really is God..
it could just be an intelligent being who's screwing with people who doesn't deserve to be in a high position and the real God could have never even spoken to us..
woyay 1 year ago
i laughed so fucking hard at the lotr book
leanfiend444 1 year ago 50
@leanfiend444 That was I believe, as they say in the trade, "uber-pwnage."
paperstreetfilms 1 year ago
@paperstreetfilms Hahaha indeed!
leanfiend444 1 year ago
@leanfiend444 dude i saw this comment before watching but i still lmfao hahaha
zysilveria47 1 year ago
@leanfiend444 I almost died from lack of air in the lungs at that part as well
Setsotama 9 months ago
It's just fun to rundown VFX because it's so easy. VFX=useless
TheBlackSheep2134 1 year ago
dude, i really like your videos, but it seems like you could have thought this through a little better. draw some pictures or something, your ideas are all over the place.
making an argument in the religious field is hard work... but you can do better than this
keep up the good work
De4sher 1 year ago
Tell me that shawn didnt do that!!! hold up a book and say "this is awfully thick, it must be true" please tell me he didnt do that and that he didnt took it seriosly!!!!.
gugagagagreprpr 1 year ago
@gugagagagreprpr
oh no he di'n't!
c'mon, what do you expect from that guy? they don't call him VFX for nothing :)
De4sher 1 year ago
@De4sher That just makes me sad!!!.
gugagagagreprpr 1 year ago
@gugagagagreprpr
appreciate the diversity of human stupidity! how can you not be struck by its awe?
De4sher 1 year ago
Isn't saying that god exists outside the universe like saying god does not exist in our physical reality, which is like saying god does not exist to us which in turn means that there is no god? Idiot.
MarkArandjus 1 year ago
exactly venom was pwning
aell0111 1 year ago
@aell0111
I don't see how launching strawmen, arguments from negative consequences, and misunderstanding science and atheism are "pwning." The time I heard about VFX being involved in any sort of "pwnage," it was when he was "pwned" right off the internet by his own family in response to his lunacy.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@VigilanteNighthawk i honestly have no idea wut ur trying to say
aell0111 1 year ago
@aell0111
Strawman is a logical fallacy in which you set an argument that looks like an argument that you are trying to defeat, but is in fact not the same argument. An example is Kirk Cameron's crocoduck. An argument from negative consequences is a logical fallacy in which you argue that something can't be true because it would entail a negative consequence, or it must be true to avoid one. For example, arguing that you should believe in Allah or go to hell is such an argument.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@aell0111
These types of argument were VFX stock in trade. He never really presented anything that was new or even correct. He often insulted non believers and made false portrayals of their arguments.
As for pwned off the net, VFX family has banned him from posting any longer. He was forced off of youtube after filing false DMCA's and then stealing donations that he originally said were going to a children's hospital.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@VigilanteNighthawk o yes , he pwned but wz also pwned becuz i think that he took it a little too far, im a Christian and i like SOME of the things he says, but not as he duz
aell0111 1 year ago
@VigilanteNighthawk
the psycho stare alone should have been enough to get him off of youtube
De4sher 1 year ago
Responses to VFX videos are some of the funnest videos on youtube, period. I almost miss his videos haha
MetalsirenIXI 1 year ago
@MetalsirenIXI they still exist in mirrored form on the channel called venomfangxp.
supersmash43 1 year ago
Venon or Shawn is nothing but a retard.
cerritoboy 1 year ago 2
3:42 is where tool time starts arguing from bias.
Atheists always wind up doing this. It is inevitable. Theists also argue from bias, but they admit it, they call it faith.
"personal experience is not proof of anything". Lol.
So if Tool Time sees Ghandi murder someone, and I don't believe it because I don't believe Ghandi would do such a thing. Tool Time's experience should not be proof to him that Ghandi murdered someone?
You would never apply this argument to your own life.
2bornot2b1984 1 year ago
PCS sounds like an Al Qaeda jihadi here...what a wackjob!
nice job picking him apart tooltime
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
2:26 I nearly crapped myself laughing. "Gee, LotR must be a non-fiction." You are awesome.
BioCryo 1 year ago
a single thought.... ask him if he knows how internet works... his answer?: " dont"... and then his justification.... internet was created by.... ??? you know it xD lol.... yep, god needed facebook to congregate his followers...
tokasmierda 1 year ago
lol if hell is real id imagine it would be filled with people just like venomfang
ShroomFuu86 1 year ago
Tooltime9901 you pwned VFX very badly.
supersmash43 1 year ago
it's gonna suck when venomfangx finds out he's gay...
DanRossiTV 1 year ago
See my video responding to one of venomfangx's moronic rantings about evolution
youtube.com/watch?v=j6spTNEFuC0
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
I love how all religious people basically paint the same picture of God, an absent father-figure who could give a shit about his people, and acts remarkably like a drunk, getting mad at a person for no reason, and never forgiving them.
Drakescythe9 1 year ago
i like the LOTR thick book analogy lol
bugsbunnygotshot 1 year ago
@bugsbunnygotshot Are you going to Heaven
Domodeath 1 year ago
@Domodeath i dont believe in heaven. and i cant go somewhere if it doesent exist.
bugsbunnygotshot 1 year ago
@bugsbunnygotshot I tell you the truth I have seen Heaven...
Domodeath 1 year ago
@Domodeath and i have seen the invisible pink unicorn, and she says hi.
bugsbunnygotshot 1 year ago
@Domodeath I have seen heaven too. I see it every day right here on earth. When two strangers hug a tiny heaven is formed. When a seedling bursts forth from its shell a tiny heaven is formed. I know heaven when I hear my son laugh. Heaven is everywhere if you can see it. I do not believe in a "god" or follow a religion yet I can see exactly what you see. How is this so?
IamYou86 1 year ago
I think venomfangx is an actor thats just on youtube to wind people up, he's probably not even religious
neromustdie 1 year ago
It cracks me up EVERY-TIME...(VF's "argument" that the Bible must be entirely accurate, due to it being a "pretty thick book")
for fuck sake don't let him read Lord of The Rings...
He'll be making videos warning us about the "dark Lord Sauron"
homerbear46 1 year ago
god created cancer and infected my religious moma with it... when i die, gawd better not exist!
PhantomAct 1 year ago
All praise Gandalf. He who died by the Balrog and was resurrected
arshsingh1984 1 year ago
@arshsingh1984 that made me laugh
HighFlyActionGuy 1 year ago
Oh yeah, you can totally see that little shit (Shawn) persecuting the heretics in another age. What a little hypocrite! Telling people that they will go to hell and pretending there is only one religion in the world to fill that "void' in knowledge could fit... THAT'S not nice much either If that little git had and idea of the wealth of extensive knowledge that free-thinkers share his tiny brain would implode to the exposure to actual critical rigour.
jemborg 1 year ago
...hang on a moment...if the universe (not to mention the "multi-verse") is "infinite...does that not mean that somewhere there's a planet where Venomflange is RIGHT about everything....???
How can THAT be.?..that would mean there's an angry, moody, petty spiteful "God"(as described by VF and other crazy over-the-top Christians)..and also (because of THIS planet..where people that say VF is an moron)..there wouldn't be such a God?
homerbear46 1 year ago
Mathematics doesn't prove there's a ghost in my toilet but I've seen her...she's a turn of the century chinese girl...pretty scary..but a bit funny cos she's stuck in my toilet forever.
homerbear46 1 year ago
LMFAO @ venomflange bitching around 6.00...wtf is he talking about "not nice"...to God?..."we all deserve to be punished for the things we've done to God, cos God is perfect and holy and blah blah..."
I bet "HE" isn't like that..if there is a God, I reckon he'd hate ass-kissing fuckers like venom-fanx.. and send him "downstairs" for being such an annoying bitch....
I reckon he'd probably like ME, and be interested in my list of "complaints and suggestions" about his universe.
homerbear46 1 year ago
The Bible is a very thick book...it is NOT well-written though. "a page turner"..I've read thicker books that was a far better read...it isn't what you'd call .
on another note...I've "experienced God"...you'd probably say it was "invalid" because I've taken a SHIT LOAD of acid.
but do you know everything?..of course not..do I know half of anything?..fu*k knows, I've forgotten what I was talking about....
homerbear46 1 year ago
Hello folks...can someone tell me more about "naturalism"..I don't want to be "an athiest" because they are just buzz-killing douche-bags..and I don't want to be an "agnostic" cos THAT is just blatant "fence-sitting".
I DO kind of believe that there is some "equation" to the universe, which could be defined as "God"...but I don't want to praise or worship that "equation" because it would be like a bacteria on a toilet seat praying to the toilet seat and asking it for favours every night...
homerbear46 1 year ago
@homerbear46 fantastic...you ask the right questions! i'm a kinda weird cross of gaian and humanist. we're a unique essence to the enveloping universe/multiverse....that kind of guff. works for me. by the way...acid = god. : ) ps and for god's sake read terry pratchett!
raverdeath100 1 year ago
@raverdeath100 ...ooooh...you're so right...
ACID!!
me and my friend SAW God once...(in the clouds..he had his beard and everything)
he looked angry..we run away...
maybe these Christians DO know a bit about God...
(yikes)
homerbear46 1 year ago
@homerbear46 you sure you didn't stumble into a monty python film? by the way, i think VF should be forced to read "foundation". it'll either blow his little mind or kill him through boredom. seriously though, if you haven't already, read some terry pratchett man. got religion pegged down to death. fucking funny too.
raverdeath100 1 year ago
WTF you talking about, lord of the rings is true!! All hail the almight omnipotent gandalf!! Bless thy with your ork slaying abilitys.. Amen.
iscay666 1 year ago
I bet my grandmother if in some horrid universe teh scientific method proved Gods existence without a shadow of a doubt...Creationists would laud the merits of it. Cry it from the highest mountain tops.
eahazell 1 year ago
not even a Piccard Facepalm can express my disdain for creationists
eahazell 1 year ago
Why.... If god was real, then why the fuck did he create retards like this?
I can't even begin to understand how it is possible for people to be this stupid, it literally depresses me
SpiritualNightFoxx 1 year ago
ya gotta love the hatred on here i liked the debates man why make someone leave it was great hearing debates =)
SupportAlexJones 1 year ago
Is it just me, or does watching and listening to VFX just make you want to ram a spear through his head.
joshie92 1 year ago
VFX(Sean) = Delusional
RevJoshua 1 year ago
Thanks for pwning this guy.
lozleigh 1 year ago
wow, i cant believe how ignorant and stupid he is! he was forced to resort to threatening us of hell if we don't believe! well, i would rather go to hell than bow down to a god that would do something so evil as to send anyone to hell for not believing in the absense of evidence!
HaveFaithInScience 1 year ago
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Treefrogs2 1 year ago
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Treefrogs2 1 year ago
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@HaveFaithInScience LOL I thought you would be busy tearing the skull of an imprisoned Monkey for research. or better yet, smashing sub atomic particles just to see what would happen.
You obviously have no idea about "meaning" and the human experience. Life isnt a court case you know LOL.
for the record, I consider you equally dangerous as the evangelicals.
Treefrogs2 1 year ago