The British and Canadian attacks on U.S. territory were a legitimate response to American aggression. The burning of the public buildings Washington was retaliation for what your forces did to York (now Toronto) and Niagara-on-the-Lake.
Britain was in the wrong in stopping U.S. vessels on the high seas and impressing members of their crews. That was arguably a just cause of war. But the British colonies in North America posed no threat to the U.S., and the War of 1812 was *not* a second war of independence, because Britain did not want war with the U.S. or intend to re-annex them.
Americans don't seem to know that they kidnapped Canadian citizens and forced them to fight in the US army. Filthly liars and propaganda wankers. The Americans were the aggressors in this war and they LOST spectacularly.
@squirell1952 That just proves what a fucking idiot you are. You're Irish, obviously you don't know that all of your problems in Ulster were caused by Scottish aristocrats, not English ones. Fuck Ireland, this empire belonged to Britain.
@TheLiberalKnight - It was NOT the scottish aristocrats who started the war in ulster and the rest of ireland. it was the ENGLISH aristos who put them up to it. Ane the scots fell for it. celt fighting celt while anglo looks on in glee and rubs her hands. those same scots sold out their own country to england. t hat is why they got land in ireland as a reward.
America and canada were NEVER colonized by Britain. they were colonized by ENGLAND. If you do not believe me, get your atlas of The Anglocelt Ises (aka British Isles) out and familiar ise yourself with a wee bit of geography. you DO know what geography is, don't you?
Totally war rose the moral, especially after British empire was bombarding your coast and burned the Washington DC and white house.... But thats when a lawyer wrote the National anthem :)
The British originally demanded the surrender of Maine and the western frontier to Britain and their native allies. Britain refused to discuss peace even after our negotiators approached them, until Wellington recommended it. The idea we fought to expand into land that was useless to us, rather than in response to our shipping and sailors being taken, or our navy being attacked in our own waters, simply doesn't carry water in my view. The war was not a spur of the moment event...
@Robertz1986 2nd.Those western lands where not Americas to take. Natives had every right to fight for their freedom.
You guys keep tripping over that fact.
If impressment was a true issue the war would have happened in 1807 after the Chesapeake-Leopard Affair.
And as for being snotty about how useless Canada was to the US allow me to return the insult you racist child murdering bastard offspring of the British empire.
Canada was actually not as important to the US as Canadian schools often teach. While symbolically the idea of removing Britain from North America was valuable, Canada simply wasn't worth much to the US economically or strategically. America already had more land than it could readily use. Britain had repeatedly violated the rights of the US and its citizens. In exchange for peace, the British originally demanded the entire western half of the US be surrendered to Britain and allies
@Robertz1986 I don't understand why Americans down play the taking of Canada as an objective. They seem to think people are stupid.
1st. If the US was not ravenous for land why continually attack Native peoples? The more then enough land statement in light of US actions leading up to the war is preposterous. There were easier lands to take, true but no American can say that the US was not land hungry & be taken seriously.
@Robertz1986 The US has alway been tied to Canada economically. The US war was hotly contested from the beginning because of the effect it would have on trade with Canada. Eventually, pressure from US business was one the main reasons the war was stopped. US interest in taking over Canadian wealth was a factor in Western Canada which is the reason the Canadian National railway was built and fort built along the boarder.
Just as Canadians tend to emphasize the battle of Lundy's Lane over the Siege of Fort Erie, or the Queenston Heights over Moraviantown. As for WWII, a lot of nations take more credit than they deserve for the Allies winning, specifically the US, Britain, and the Soviet Union stand out. All of them were vital to the war, but they tend to sleight each other. Russians do it too, generally largely underestimating American material contributions to the USSR which were vast and vital.
@Robertz1986 Yes, but each stage of the war had greater or lesser involvement of certain nations, and all are equally significant. Still, the Russians would have eventually defeated Germany w/o the help of the U.S. or British. Without the Russians, the U.S. and Brits would have had a much harder time fighting the Germans/Japs, and maybe would not have defeated them.
Always interesting to think about, but all academic.
Even leaving out Japan, the Soviet Union likely could not have won against Axis Europe alone. The allies crippled Germany's cities and war industry through mass bombing campaigns, and Germany had deployed huge forces to the west and south to counter allied invasions, and lost much of their air force engaging the Allies. Even with this aid, and massive economic aid to the Soviet Union (e.g. half of all Soviet trucks were American made) 15% of their people and most soldiers died.
@Robertz1986 The Russian winters, and summers have always slowed/stopped invaders attacking Russia. Stalin had already moved production much further/deeper into the country. Resources and man-power was essentially limitless. Whatever the Germans had, the Russians could match (eg Panzer 4 vs T34), and 5 times over in numbers. Russia never has given a crap about their soldier's death rate.
@Robertz1986 Without the allies destroying needed resources, the Germans could have further developed the atomic bomb via the Uranium Club. That would have been very interesting and of course, crushed Russia.
The War of 1812 is not taught as a "failed conquest of Canada", because in America the invasion of Canada was of secondary concern. The war is often called "The 2nd War of Independence" and is viewed as an assertion of American sovereignty against the invasion of our rights by the British. It is true that the invasion of Canada failed, but that is usually a side note, with emphasis going to a few major battles of significance to us (Baltimore, New Orleans) and the USS Constitution.
@xHellerxful A lot of American schools are biased, I have seen them for myself.
Answer me this- in American schools, do they teach that America was the most important factor in winning BOTH the world wars, and do they teach that America won the war of 1812?
@TalonMercenary I know it's the biased shit taught in American schools, but I was waiting for a dumbass American response. Thanks for pointing out the obvious, anyway.
@AaahImOnFire11 you have no idea how many americans have said to me they won the war because Britian didnt gain a territory from it. . . . it is rediculous the count is at about 15 on the collage humour video. . . . but then again its just a bunch of uneducated people over there. . . .just thought you should know that TheLiberalKnight has some thought behind his point
interesting how the central bank of usa is not mentioned in this video .. read THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND.. this book gives some insight on the role the central banks have played in causing war of 1812 .
@gamblemadman Check out CSPAN's 'The Civil War of 1812' by Alan Taylor. He makes some valid points with which even the Canadians might agree, such as the thinking back in 1812 that borders were not fixed in the minds of settlers. A mistake made was the assumption that Canada had misplaced Americans who were Revolutionaries at heart and the invasion of Canada was viewed as a rescue of these entrapped people. Sadly, the U.S. learned the hard way on that misconception.
Impressment was NOT a justifiable reason to declare war on a another soveregn nation. The U.S didn't want The Brit empire ANYWHERE on the American continent ... it wanted British North America and it thought it could take it easily while the Brits were busy dealing with the French.
It didn't realise that the Canadian militia were just as dangerous when being threatened as the U.S militia were back in war of independence. It didn't even expect a fight.
@gamblemadman impressment and was a sub cause. the main cause was that the british restricted trade with France. also mentioned in the video, they opposed US expansion west and even supported enemy tribes who would support england during the war of 1812. i know you guys like the story of big strong america picking on Canada but that wasnt entirely the case. as a matter of fact the US barely had a navy much less an big military. most of the fighting was done by militia.
@mrmemanme Actually there was never any proof that Britain aided Natives.
"It is difficult to account for the activity and combinations which have for some time been developing themselves among tribes in constant intercourse with British traders and garrisons without connecting their hostility with that influence"
James Madison Speech - War Message
June 1, 1812
No proof was ever brought forward. Since Tecumseh joined the British in defense of Canada historians assume the accusation was true.
@mrmemanme As you can see Madison Says 1) "Britain is trading with Natives" 2) "Natives are Hostile to USA" 3) "Britain is therefor the cause of Native Hostility"
It never enters his mind that Natives might be hostile about the US taking their lands.
What makes this so funny is in the same speech he complains about British interference with USA's neutral right to trade with Napoleon.
With the Napoleonic wars Britain was in no position to do anything for Natives. It was a lie.
@MegaTheBrit Which is exactly where Morison makes his error. By not stating clearly who was against separation he fudges the details of exactly how devastating a move this was. Morison down plays the importance of the event then glosses over the fact that by taking the position they did that when the war ended the Federalist party utterly vanished from American politics.
The Federalists bet their political lives by taking a stand against the war. It's a pity we didn't care about the states.
@MegaTheBrit No. Morison is wrong. They did wish to leave the union & broker an independent peace with Britain.
True, they DID NOT want to join Britain but we had allowed a massive smuggling operation with the New England states to form while at the same time shutting down all sea traffic from hostile states. So treasonous aid and comfort is debatable as their neutral position was highly profitable as other states suffered the ravages of war.
@MegaTheBrit I'm not a grammar Nazi but could you rewrite that post about the Hartford Convention. I don't understand what you are trying to say.
The Federalists in Congress were from states whose economies relied upon Peaceful British trade. Even the Provocations of Impressment which they suffered more of then any other state change their anti war stance.
As a not proud Canadian I believe the Americans were completely justified. If you apply the just moral principle that no man or nation shall initiate force against another, Britain was clearly in the wrong. America made the only moral choice it could. . .to defend itself.
It does not say I'm a yank in my profile . and what does it matter what country you were born in.. the moral principle is the same. Those who initiated the force are in the wrong.
@timberskid It does not matter where you are from, it only matters if you lie about it to make is seem as if a Canadian buys in to American lies & propaganda.
Much the same way MegaTheBrit pretends to be British while repeating the same 200 year old Anti British propaganda.
Only Americans are dumb enough to think anyone but fellow Americans believe that crap.
@Eddythebeast666 . . You cannot be objective and are only using your irrational nationalistic emotions to form your opinion. I am a born Canadian but I can see the truth based upon the facts because I am being objective. America's fight for freedom is responsible for you not still living in log cabins. You on the other hand have resorted to gross insults, calling me a liar and calling Americans dumb, to try to distract the audience on this site.
@timberskid An American preaching about objectivity?
First of all if you were Canadian you would have disassociated British impressment as a provocation of our making as most do. If you were informed enough to know it was the same thing you would also know that the States that were most affected by Impressment voted AGAINST the war in fact were about to break from the USA & form an independent peace with Britain. (The Hartford Convention)
@timberskid If you truly were Canadian you would know The War Hawks who wanted the war were from Western & Southern States who had very few sailors to impress but were greedy for new lands. Ether Native or ours. The Southern States were enraged by the British Anti Slave Trade Act 1807 which was shoved down their throats. Cutting them off from their work force needed for cotton & sugar production.
Impressment was used to undercut the Federalists in Congress. An excuse for war not the reason.
@timberskid If you were Canadian you would know we are not nationalistic. That is a character flaw more common south of the boarder. A Land filled with flag waving lunatics who think you can pretend to be from another nation just by sewing a different flag on your backpack & nobody will realize you are truly American the moment you open your mouth & American crap starts flowing out of you.
@mrfwest I've just been debating with 2 people here on youtube whom may not be American but sure as hell are not Canadian or British.
Now I know that is not a backpack but it's a false flag all the same.
To be fair I've suspected that some trolls who have American in their profiles are not but simply pretending to be so in order to make the USA look bad but I have my hands full discrediting the fake Canadians. The Yanks will have to police their own.
America wanted Canada. Plain and simple. The US wanted to expand in every direction. I think the hope was that with the war in Europe, Britain could not help. And Canada would be an easy picking. But three cheers for the resident Canadian people and their Aboriginal allies in fighting back and holding the fort till help did arrive from Britain. Canadians residents, in that time, never wanted to be part of the US. The same hold true today!
The War of 1812 was perpetrated by the Rothschilds to punish Jefferson because he refused to renew the charter of the Bank of the United States. The history books completely leave out the influence of the banking conspiracy which is the true history of the world.
@OysterLava The USA under Madison declared war on Britain & invaded the British colony of Canada 3 times while Britain was engaged in the Napoleonic wars. It was only Napoleons disastrous invasion of Russia that allowed Britain to free up enough troops to threaten the USA.
What ever the Rothschild's had against Jefferson they didn't push the war it was Jefferson himself who favored the war believing taking Canada was "Simply a matter of Marching".
The Americans burned down York in what is now Toronto ....The British burned down the White House
Such a stupid war
At the end of it , the suits on both sides just agreed to pretend the whole thing never happened
All of those people were killed and mamed for nothing
On top of it , the war is almost forgotten in history
The good thing that came out of it is the ancestors on both sides realized how stupid it all was and agreed to unite as brothers, allies and trading partners
@hopeurforfreedom Americans are nothing more than barbarians and today they are no better than Hitler was in WW2 you should look up wikki leaks on Iraq Before your government has it taken down. I seen they Closed off one i seen last night where they shot up a car with 2 children inside .It is horrible what they are doing over there .They showed a solder saying killing people was fun and he enjoys killing
@Bryannia25 Ha ha ha, I see you're waving your white flag of surrender now Bryannia.
Changing the subject entirely is a losers way of admitting defeat.
Are you still going to tell me that Canada never had slavery?
Or why is the Queens name listed as the home owner for the Canadian consulate?
Oh, and since you want to bring up war, like Iraq, let me ask you this : do you know why Canadian soldiers who were captured in the D-Day invasion were executed a lot by the Germans?
@THUD086 My white Flag lol i Simply said the American stories of 1812 was wrong in fact the navel battle that is talked about happened 3 years after the war of 1812 . Even that battle had no winner the British sailed away before daylight . Facts were United States crossed into Canada and were defeated by smaller force of settlers and not a professional armed force .When the regular force joined they they marched on to the white house
@Bryannia25 You still haven't answered my question. Who is the Head of State in your country? Ours, unfortunately is barry. Who is your leader? Is the man or woman Canuck? Does your leader reside in Canuckland?
@THUD086 Germans would not Fight head to head with Canada in WW@ research the battles you can see the tried to avoid Canadains because they never beat Canada in a battle .As for killing lol it was war . You say the queen owns something i say do your research
@Bryannia25 I guess you also forgot about Operation MarketGarden, which was under 100% British command, with Canadian units...it was the largest defeat for the Allies in in Europe, and btw...where was Canada getting all there equipment from???
@Bryannia25 Baby killer nation? I believe Canada falls into that category. There are 30 abortions for every 100 live births. I wouldn't be casting stones.
@hopeurforfreedom I take it you did not watch the link of use solders shooting up a van with 2 small children in it when the driver stopped to help 2 reporters that they just shot up . Yes in Iraq United States are guilty of war crimes .You should look up some stuff here on youtube .and in the world press that the American government banned to show in your country
@hopeurforfreedom The U.S lost the was of 1812 then turned their guns on each other. When that was over they tried to wipe out the native population for land .
@Bryannia25 Canada is also only one of a few nations that kills baby seals for harvesting.
What a disgracefull lot of turds you people are.
Oh, and by the way, you claim that Germany never defeated Canada in a battle? Are you that stupid? I guess you're not familiar with the Dieppe Raid in 1942.
@THUD086 lol Canada mad it against the law to kill white coats over 30 years ago you may like to look up what you post lol .All photos of of people killing them are mostly over 30 years old or fake .Green peace loves to use old stuff to get your American bleeding hearts money.Do some research on the seal hunt
@hopeurforfreedom Moron there is a big difference in Killing an animal for fur or food .Than Turing a 60mm on 2 reporters then shooting the hell out of a van that had children in it because the driver stopped to help the men that got shot .War crimes and your government tried to hide it .You people have no clue a sick country that are modern day Barbadians no better than Hitler was in WW2 .Look up the Iraq war it would make you sick .Where are the WOMD all the U S found was muster gas
@Bryannia25 Butt-plug, if you'll look back a few posts, you made a claim killing baby seals was banned 30 years ago. Hell, you didn't even know Canucks playing "whack-a-pup" was still a sport. Hey, don't worry, you are free because of the American soldier putz. You have the luxury of having no enemies on your border and have lived under the American security blanket since WWII. It is because of America you live in utter luxury compared to the rest of the world.
@Bryannia25 yeah, Iraq is pretty sick, but what was sicker was rape rooms, summary executions, gassing your own citizens ect. I suppose you think Hussein should have stayed in power. BTW, Hussein was a major supporter of the morons who strapped on bombs to murder. You are the morally bankrupt soul for supporting the head of a government who could ever do such things. Whoever you complain about in your blather are nothing more than soldiers. All wars have bad incidents, dumb ass.
@hopeurforfreedom Saddam was supported by the USA for decades. That fact really under cuts your argument that you were motivated out of the goodness of your hearts in taking him out. fact is after supporting him so long you guys deserve to pay the bill for his removal.
@Eddythebeast666 You try to get along with whoever is in power. Maybe you do not know this, but Hussein tried to have Bush Sr. assassinated while in Kuwait. That is reason enough in my book.
@hopeurforfreedom Yes after the US turned on him. He asked permission of the USA before attacking Kuwait. The fact Saddam was a dick was never a question. The US knew that even when you were providing him with billions in weapons including the chemical weapons he used on Iran & eventually his own people. The question is after all the hell that that has been unleashed are the pricks we put in power any better then the one we took out.
@Eddythebeast666 apparently you lack knowledge. Maybe the term "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" will help you understand the political climate over there. No matter what we thought of Iraq, Iran is worse. The chemical weapons weren't our, you moron.
@hopeurforfreedom I'm not a spelling Nazi such errors don't bother me. We created the problem in Iran in the first place. The US was instrumental in Iraq's acquisition of the chemical weapons.
The Reagan administration did not stop aiding Iraq after receiving reports affirming the use of poison gas on Kurdish civilians. None of that is the problem. Hell I approve of the tactical reasoning. Our problem is we have lost all moral credibility.
@Eddythebeast666 Chemical weapons are pretty easy to produce and Iraq produced their own. Moral credibility with whom, a bunch of tyrants? Who give a rats ass.
@hopeurforfreedom Moral credibility With people. How can any of our nations expect respect if we don't act respectfully. There is no such thing as Anti-Americaisum if all the things people accuse us (The western powers) of doing is actually true.
@Eddythebeast666 EddyTheClueless, let me fill you in on where Saddams chemicals came from.
In the late 70's, the German firm of Karl Kobe provided him with their first ingredients for chemical weapons (CW's) to produce mustard gas.
From five other German firms, Saddam got botulin toxin & mycotoxin.
From the CDC (Center for Disease Control) in the U.S., they got samples only of anthrax, West Nile Virus, botulism, & Brucella melitensis for medical research purposes.
@THUD086 Author Barry M. Lando says, by 1987, the U.S. military was so invested in the correct outcome, that "officers from the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency dispatched to Baghdad were actually planning day-by-day strategic bombing strikes for the Iraqi Air Force." Iraq used this data to target Iranian positions with chemical weapons, says ambassador Galbraith. The CIA knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.
Remember, even though we were not friends of Saddam (we never were), he was at war with our new enemy, Iran.
Iranians overthrew the Shah, and held our embassy people hostage for 444 days.
They now become our enemy, more than Saddam became a friend.
That's the way those things work. I for one find no fault in it. I'll bet you find no fault in your mother country, the U.K.,even though they used gas on the Kurds back in the 1920's, right? Right?
@THUD086 I'm well aware of the Commonwealths involvement in the mess that has become the Middle East that is the only reason I've been using "We" & "Our" in stead of "You" & "Yours".
The creation of Israel & the vast majority of other Mid East problems was our mistakes. The USA had no blame in the creation of them.
You guys jumped in to that steaming pile of crap as we were desperately trying to get the hell out.
Right now a bit of moral high ground is the only issue because no one trusts us.
@THUD086 Even our most innocent attempts at help inspire backlash & rage.
We have huge financial interests in the region. China is gaining ground too fast. All they have to do is wait as all the compromises we made in the past blow up in our faces one after another.
I don't see a winnable scenario. We have compromised too many of our princables.
Do WE even trust our selves any more? Really, I sure as hell fact check every word the Jokers up here claim as truth.
@THUD086 Again its not the tactical actions that are the problem. They are all reasonable for the times in which they occurred. Our problem is we have lost all moral credibility.
Damned in I know how we get that back It would be extremally useful to have now that the whole Middle East is tossing out all the bastards we have been doing business with.
@Bryannia25 What is it with Canadians and killing the young? Slaying helpless baby seals, which is no different than taking a baseball bat to young puppies.
@Bryannia25 Ah stupid, the Korean War was a U.N. war where we did all the heavy lifting.
The Vietnam War was a Vietnamese civil war between North & South Vietnam, it was not an American War. It only looks that way because again, we do all the heavy lifting.
Nor did we "run", as you say. We simply left because of anti-war sentiment at home. The U.S. military was not defeated in Vietnam.
@THUD086 you all got your asses kicked by rice farmers .While your people are still in Iraq killing civilians look up wikki leakes Iraq here in youtube you will see solders killing children
@THUD086 Why is when you Americans are wrong some one and you have to lower your self to name calling . If i new you were a 12 year old child i would just ignored you
The British's War goal never really was to retake the USA. And honestly, why would they? It was would be a matter of time before they rose up again, and the British were more interested in interests in India and the colonies that hadn't rebelled in America. Canada/Britain defeated American invasion and lost no territory. Meanwhile the USA failed to invade Canada and Maddison's plan of the "Matter of Marching" invasion failed utterly. I think its safe to say that Canada/Britain won xD
TheMaskhadov nobody won the war because it was a stalemate because no real objectives were accomplished on either sides, besides repelling the the americans in canada. england still didn't destroy the US, and it stilled remained soverign in the end. also burning down a capital doesn't mean you win. because if it does then that means the US won vietnam NOT
This was hardly a big war and undoubtedly Britain won, because they burned whasington DC and generally showed the Americans up. The act of gang pressing is not a reason for invading a country or an Empire. This was most likely oppurtunist Americans thinking they can get a good chunk of Canada while Britan was at war in the Napoleonic war.
@hopeurforfreedom British won the war of 1812 do to the fact USA was unable to take the British territory . It was the USA that was the aggressor of the war of 1812
@Bryannia25 I can understand a Canadian's view of how they want to "interpret" the War of 1812, as a way to console themselves from their shame.
You see, unlike the U.S. which fought the British Empire for it's independence, and Mexico, which fought the Spanish for it's independence in 1821, Canada has never done it. They remained subservient to their British lords and masters, too cowardly to fight for freedom.
That's the shame that Canadian's must carry with them in life.
@THUD086 lol Canada was always free we did not need to fight to own slaves or did we wish to kill off the native people of this land like Americans . United States attacked settlements and did not have the balls to attack England
@THUD086 And what did you fight for to dodge a tax bill you could call that freedom of a sort but I'm sure if I private indivdual tried it the banks would have somewthing to say. Al hail the tax todgers republic right whats the first act oh yeah were raising taxes!
@THUD086 Canada was an independed country sense 1867 and as a part of the commonwealth of nations are still loyal to the queen/king of the Commonwealth . this do not mean Canada answers to England ,You have no clue what you are talking about
@Bryannia25 No, you were not independent in 1867, and your entry into WW1 a day after the U.K. declared war on the Central Powers proved that. Even more, your forces were entirely under under British command.
You're still an idiot.
Aaaawww, did I shatter your Canadian myth? Are you even still going to tell me there was no slavery in Canada?
Do your homework, and then get back to me and try to tell me that there was no slavery in Canada. Or do you dare?
@Bryannia25 I do post facts, the problem with morons like you is, you can't dispute them because you're ignorant.
Take my advice here.
Stop skipping school. That's right, get back into the classroom. Learn your school lessons. Study hard, and hopefully by the time you turn 18, you should be able to graduate and get a diploma.
Because if you don't, you'll go through life being the idiot that you are.
. At that time the population of Canada was almost entirely French, but in the next few decades, thousands of British colonists emigrated to Canada from the British Isles and from the American colonies. In 1849, the right of Canada to self-government was recognized.
@THUD086 we entered Because we fought for the Commonwealth of Nations that we are a part of you may like to do some more research as well we entered ww2 with Britain .When you know what you are talking about then post
@THUD086 (Rupert's Land) from which the provinces of Manitoba (1870), Alberta (1905), and Saskatchewan (1905) were later formed. In 1871, British Columbia joined the dominion, and in 1873, Prince Edward Island followed. The country was linked from coast to coast in 1885 by the Canadian Pacific Railway.
@Bryannia25 Would you like me to give you American history? Don't waste your time and mine, but just tell me that you didn't have slavery in Canada.
Oh, by the way. The Canadian consulate here in the Boston area was just given a new residence to live in in Wellesly Mass. On the real estate transaction, the owner is listed as, and get this,,,,Queen Elizabeth the second.
Do you know why the Queens name is listed as the owner for the Canadian consulate?
@THUD086 i Can not Fix stupid d no it is no it is the Commonwealth of Nations not British nations and you think Canada is still under British rule you make me Lol
@Bryannia25 I never said that Canada is still under British rule. Either you are a liar, or you have a reading comprehension problem. Check the comments.
But I did ask you why Queen Elizabeth is listed as the owner of a recently purchased home for the Canadian consulate in Boston. Do you have the answer? I don't, that's why I'm asking you, a Canadian, who should know why the Queens name is listed as the owner for the Canadian consulate.
@THUD086 Probably she owns the building then lol .Look it up i always thought the Canadian consulate was in NY city .I know it use to be there With an office outlet in in California
@Bryannia25 By the British North America Act of 1867, the dominion of Canada was created through the confederation of Upper and Lower Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick. In 1869
@Bryannia25 You are owned by Britain. Americans are free, we are citizens of our own country. You are a subject, subject to the will of a foreign power, Britain.
@Bryannia25 And boy, you really stepped in a pile of dogshit over slavery. Look into Canadas history Einstein, and you will see that you did have slavery. It just wasn't as well publicized today because of U.S. slavery overshadowed it.
Afua Cooper is an instructor at the University of Toronto who has expertise in the subject. Do you think you can muster up as much as two brain cells to research this and see for yourself, or are you afraid that your myth would be shattered?
@THUD086 Paying a person a fee to work for them no matter the colour ( yes it is colour not color the lazy Americana way ) paying some one to work was called employment .Beating them have to death and starving them to male them work is slavery
The British and Canadian attacks on U.S. territory were a legitimate response to American aggression. The burning of the public buildings Washington was retaliation for what your forces did to York (now Toronto) and Niagara-on-the-Lake.
Oswulf1 2 weeks ago
Britain was in the wrong in stopping U.S. vessels on the high seas and impressing members of their crews. That was arguably a just cause of war. But the British colonies in North America posed no threat to the U.S., and the War of 1812 was *not* a second war of independence, because Britain did not want war with the U.S. or intend to re-annex them.
Oswulf1 2 weeks ago
history is soooo boring...
leciberlanga 3 weeks ago
Americans don't seem to know that they kidnapped Canadian citizens and forced them to fight in the US army. Filthly liars and propaganda wankers. The Americans were the aggressors in this war and they LOST spectacularly.
TheLiberalKnight 3 weeks ago
And britain NEVER had an empire. The empire you refer to is the ENGLISH EMPIRE.
Check up on Celtic Nationallism while you are at it.
squirell1952 1 month ago
@squirell1952 That just proves what a fucking idiot you are. You're Irish, obviously you don't know that all of your problems in Ulster were caused by Scottish aristocrats, not English ones. Fuck Ireland, this empire belonged to Britain.
TheLiberalKnight 3 weeks ago
@TheLiberalKnight - It was NOT the scottish aristocrats who started the war in ulster and the rest of ireland. it was the ENGLISH aristos who put them up to it. Ane the scots fell for it. celt fighting celt while anglo looks on in glee and rubs her hands. those same scots sold out their own country to england. t hat is why they got land in ireland as a reward.
squirell1952 3 weeks ago
@squirell1952 LOL!
TheLiberalKnight 3 weeks ago
@squirell1952
you're perhaps uninformed.
the Scots of Ulster are of lowlander creed, and thus would not be of the area of cultural connect between the two.
There is nothing wholly Celtic about either Ireland or Scotland in that time frame either;
The Irish peoples had gone from Celt to Hiberno-Norman.
you're just a racist against the English, and despite how you try to hide it, it blatantly shows.
LiamUe 2 weeks ago
@squirell1952
Yes it did.
1707. Great Britain formed. There. easy as cake.
As per Celtic Nationalism in Ireland, it was a clever ploy introduced by the republican Marxists like De Valera and men as such;
it unified the Irish against the British.
Pathetic, racist attempt to pit one group against another. and it worked.
Actually, it is just history repeated.
The 'Greeks' became untied because of Pan-Hellenism, which was spurred by war and fear of 'Barbarians' /other races.
LiamUe 2 weeks ago
America and canada were NEVER colonized by Britain. they were colonized by ENGLAND. If you do not believe me, get your atlas of The Anglocelt Ises (aka British Isles) out and familiar ise yourself with a wee bit of geography. you DO know what geography is, don't you?
squirell1952 1 month ago
@squirell1952
no, I nor anyone believes you.
The Americas were colonised by both states before their political union in 1707.
Ses 'Act of Union 1707'
And Cape Breton island - lots of Scots. That's part of Canada.
Oh, and Newfoundland, New Brunswick and Massachusetts - tonnes of Irish.
tonnes of Scottish.
Hardly just English.
Besides, if they're the super evil rich guys you claim them to be, why would they leave their awesome 'lair' ?
LiamUe 2 weeks ago
Totally war rose the moral, especially after British empire was bombarding your coast and burned the Washington DC and white house.... But thats when a lawyer wrote the National anthem :)
Sinelnyy 2 months ago
@Sinelnyy
the anthem was writ at Baltimore - just in case you're saying it was at Washington.
LiamUe 2 weeks ago
@nigee1970 True, the Peninsular War was much more important for the British but even this isn't covered in schools
aspiringdrummer17 4 months ago
@nigee1970
The British originally demanded the surrender of Maine and the western frontier to Britain and their native allies. Britain refused to discuss peace even after our negotiators approached them, until Wellington recommended it. The idea we fought to expand into land that was useless to us, rather than in response to our shipping and sailors being taken, or our navy being attacked in our own waters, simply doesn't carry water in my view. The war was not a spur of the moment event...
Robertz1986 4 months ago
@Robertz1986 2nd.Those western lands where not Americas to take. Natives had every right to fight for their freedom.
You guys keep tripping over that fact.
If impressment was a true issue the war would have happened in 1807 after the Chesapeake-Leopard Affair.
And as for being snotty about how useless Canada was to the US allow me to return the insult you racist child murdering bastard offspring of the British empire.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@nigee1970
Canada was actually not as important to the US as Canadian schools often teach. While symbolically the idea of removing Britain from North America was valuable, Canada simply wasn't worth much to the US economically or strategically. America already had more land than it could readily use. Britain had repeatedly violated the rights of the US and its citizens. In exchange for peace, the British originally demanded the entire western half of the US be surrendered to Britain and allies
Robertz1986 4 months ago
@Robertz1986 I don't understand why Americans down play the taking of Canada as an objective. They seem to think people are stupid.
1st. If the US was not ravenous for land why continually attack Native peoples? The more then enough land statement in light of US actions leading up to the war is preposterous. There were easier lands to take, true but no American can say that the US was not land hungry & be taken seriously.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@Robertz1986 The US has alway been tied to Canada economically. The US war was hotly contested from the beginning because of the effect it would have on trade with Canada. Eventually, pressure from US business was one the main reasons the war was stopped. US interest in taking over Canadian wealth was a factor in Western Canada which is the reason the Canadian National railway was built and fort built along the boarder.
shirehorse91 2 months ago
simons a nnoob
SKCunited 4 months ago
@nigee1970
Just as Canadians tend to emphasize the battle of Lundy's Lane over the Siege of Fort Erie, or the Queenston Heights over Moraviantown. As for WWII, a lot of nations take more credit than they deserve for the Allies winning, specifically the US, Britain, and the Soviet Union stand out. All of them were vital to the war, but they tend to sleight each other. Russians do it too, generally largely underestimating American material contributions to the USSR which were vast and vital.
Robertz1986 4 months ago
@Robertz1986 Yes, but each stage of the war had greater or lesser involvement of certain nations, and all are equally significant. Still, the Russians would have eventually defeated Germany w/o the help of the U.S. or British. Without the Russians, the U.S. and Brits would have had a much harder time fighting the Germans/Japs, and maybe would not have defeated them.
Always interesting to think about, but all academic.
clearlogicify 3 months ago
@clearlogicify
Even leaving out Japan, the Soviet Union likely could not have won against Axis Europe alone. The allies crippled Germany's cities and war industry through mass bombing campaigns, and Germany had deployed huge forces to the west and south to counter allied invasions, and lost much of their air force engaging the Allies. Even with this aid, and massive economic aid to the Soviet Union (e.g. half of all Soviet trucks were American made) 15% of their people and most soldiers died.
Robertz1986 3 months ago
@Robertz1986 The Russian winters, and summers have always slowed/stopped invaders attacking Russia. Stalin had already moved production much further/deeper into the country. Resources and man-power was essentially limitless. Whatever the Germans had, the Russians could match (eg Panzer 4 vs T34), and 5 times over in numbers. Russia never has given a crap about their soldier's death rate.
clearlogicify 3 months ago
@Robertz1986 Without the allies destroying needed resources, the Germans could have further developed the atomic bomb via the Uranium Club. That would have been very interesting and of course, crushed Russia.
clearlogicify 3 months ago
@nigee1970
The War of 1812 is not taught as a "failed conquest of Canada", because in America the invasion of Canada was of secondary concern. The war is often called "The 2nd War of Independence" and is viewed as an assertion of American sovereignty against the invasion of our rights by the British. It is true that the invasion of Canada failed, but that is usually a side note, with emphasis going to a few major battles of significance to us (Baltimore, New Orleans) and the USS Constitution.
Robertz1986 4 months ago
@xHellerxful That's good to know.
TheLiberalKnight 4 months ago
@xHellerxful A lot of American schools are biased, I have seen them for myself.
Answer me this- in American schools, do they teach that America was the most important factor in winning BOTH the world wars, and do they teach that America won the war of 1812?
TheLiberalKnight 4 months ago
What happened? I'll tell you what happend AMERICA HAPPENED!
AZsportshut 5 months ago
Why do Americans think they won this war? I'm interested to know, because they didn't, yet they are absoloutely sure they did.
TheLiberalKnight 5 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Because the won the revolutionary war, they think they won this aswell. All propaganda
TalonMercenary 5 months ago
@TalonMercenary I know it's the biased shit taught in American schools, but I was waiting for a dumbass American response. Thanks for pointing out the obvious, anyway.
TheLiberalKnight 5 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Well, im not American
TalonMercenary 5 months ago
@TalonMercenary I know
TheLiberalKnight 5 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight We don't think we won it,and if you're Canadian then you're living up to a giant stereotype, i hope you know that.
AaahImOnFire11 4 months ago
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@AaahImOnFire11 I am glad at least one person is sane. I hope all of America understands that they did not win this war.
TheLiberalKnight 4 months ago
@AaahImOnFire11 you have no idea how many americans have said to me they won the war because Britian didnt gain a territory from it. . . . it is rediculous the count is at about 15 on the collage humour video. . . . but then again its just a bunch of uneducated people over there. . . .just thought you should know that TheLiberalKnight has some thought behind his point
bananaboi18 4 months ago
@AaahImOnFire11 He's not Canadian he's British.
Mehtaphorical 4 months ago
interesting how the central bank of usa is not mentioned in this video .. read THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND.. this book gives some insight on the role the central banks have played in causing war of 1812 .
erichvrundstedt 6 months ago
@gamblemadman Check out CSPAN's 'The Civil War of 1812' by Alan Taylor. He makes some valid points with which even the Canadians might agree, such as the thinking back in 1812 that borders were not fixed in the minds of settlers. A mistake made was the assumption that Canada had misplaced Americans who were Revolutionaries at heart and the invasion of Canada was viewed as a rescue of these entrapped people. Sadly, the U.S. learned the hard way on that misconception.
Planetar17 7 months ago
@Planetar17 Excellent resource. Mr Taylor gives a well researched presentation.
Thank you for pointing it out.
Eddythebeast666 7 months ago
This is such bullshit.
Impressment was NOT a justifiable reason to declare war on a another soveregn nation. The U.S didn't want The Brit empire ANYWHERE on the American continent ... it wanted British North America and it thought it could take it easily while the Brits were busy dealing with the French.
It didn't realise that the Canadian militia were just as dangerous when being threatened as the U.S militia were back in war of independence. It didn't even expect a fight.
It was wrong lol.
gamblemadman 7 months ago
@gamblemadman impressment and was a sub cause. the main cause was that the british restricted trade with France. also mentioned in the video, they opposed US expansion west and even supported enemy tribes who would support england during the war of 1812. i know you guys like the story of big strong america picking on Canada but that wasnt entirely the case. as a matter of fact the US barely had a navy much less an big military. most of the fighting was done by militia.
paulinotou 5 months ago
Lol this guy is a historical noob, we pressed a few sailors, helped some Indians and raided like 3 ships! these are hardly causes of war.
mrmemanme 8 months ago
@mrmemanme Actually there was never any proof that Britain aided Natives.
"It is difficult to account for the activity and combinations which have for some time been developing themselves among tribes in constant intercourse with British traders and garrisons without connecting their hostility with that influence"
James Madison Speech - War Message
June 1, 1812
No proof was ever brought forward. Since Tecumseh joined the British in defense of Canada historians assume the accusation was true.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@mrmemanme As you can see Madison Says 1) "Britain is trading with Natives" 2) "Natives are Hostile to USA" 3) "Britain is therefor the cause of Native Hostility"
It never enters his mind that Natives might be hostile about the US taking their lands.
What makes this so funny is in the same speech he complains about British interference with USA's neutral right to trade with Napoleon.
With the Napoleonic wars Britain was in no position to do anything for Natives. It was a lie.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
o please you just wanted to grab canada
friget234 8 months ago
who the fuck are you man?
willb123100 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit Which is exactly where Morison makes his error. By not stating clearly who was against separation he fudges the details of exactly how devastating a move this was. Morison down plays the importance of the event then glosses over the fact that by taking the position they did that when the war ended the Federalist party utterly vanished from American politics.
The Federalists bet their political lives by taking a stand against the war. It's a pity we didn't care about the states.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit No. Morison is wrong. They did wish to leave the union & broker an independent peace with Britain.
True, they DID NOT want to join Britain but we had allowed a massive smuggling operation with the New England states to form while at the same time shutting down all sea traffic from hostile states. So treasonous aid and comfort is debatable as their neutral position was highly profitable as other states suffered the ravages of war.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
@MegaTheBrit I'm not a grammar Nazi but could you rewrite that post about the Hartford Convention. I don't understand what you are trying to say.
The Federalists in Congress were from states whose economies relied upon Peaceful British trade. Even the Provocations of Impressment which they suffered more of then any other state change their anti war stance.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago 3
@MegaTheBrit Talking to your clone account?
You are one sad troll.
Eddythebeast666 9 months ago
Thanks Mega, oh, and I'm a lady.
timberskid 9 months ago
Thanks Mega, oh, and I'm a lady
timberskid 9 months ago
As a not proud Canadian I believe the Americans were completely justified. If you apply the just moral principle that no man or nation shall initiate force against another, Britain was clearly in the wrong. America made the only moral choice it could. . .to defend itself.
timberskid 9 months ago
@timberskid It says you are a yank in your profile. The USA declared war & attacked Canada, British were defenders in this war.
Eddythebeast666 9 months ago
@Eddythebeast666
It does not say I'm a yank in my profile . and what does it matter what country you were born in.. the moral principle is the same. Those who initiated the force are in the wrong.
timberskid 9 months ago
@timberskid It does not matter where you are from, it only matters if you lie about it to make is seem as if a Canadian buys in to American lies & propaganda.
Much the same way MegaTheBrit pretends to be British while repeating the same 200 year old Anti British propaganda.
Only Americans are dumb enough to think anyone but fellow Americans believe that crap.
Eddythebeast666 9 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 . . You cannot be objective and are only using your irrational nationalistic emotions to form your opinion. I am a born Canadian but I can see the truth based upon the facts because I am being objective. America's fight for freedom is responsible for you not still living in log cabins. You on the other hand have resorted to gross insults, calling me a liar and calling Americans dumb, to try to distract the audience on this site.
timberskid 8 months ago
@timberskid An American preaching about objectivity?
First of all if you were Canadian you would have disassociated British impressment as a provocation of our making as most do. If you were informed enough to know it was the same thing you would also know that the States that were most affected by Impressment voted AGAINST the war in fact were about to break from the USA & form an independent peace with Britain. (The Hartford Convention)
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago 2
@timberskid If you truly were Canadian you would know The War Hawks who wanted the war were from Western & Southern States who had very few sailors to impress but were greedy for new lands. Ether Native or ours. The Southern States were enraged by the British Anti Slave Trade Act 1807 which was shoved down their throats. Cutting them off from their work force needed for cotton & sugar production.
Impressment was used to undercut the Federalists in Congress. An excuse for war not the reason.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago 2
@timberskid If you were Canadian you would know we are not nationalistic. That is a character flaw more common south of the boarder. A Land filled with flag waving lunatics who think you can pretend to be from another nation just by sewing a different flag on your backpack & nobody will realize you are truly American the moment you open your mouth & American crap starts flowing out of you.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago 2
@Eddythebeast666 you do know the the whole "sewing a different flag on your backpack " is a myth made by Canadians....americans dont do that
mrfwest 8 months ago
@mrfwest I've just been debating with 2 people here on youtube whom may not be American but sure as hell are not Canadian or British.
Now I know that is not a backpack but it's a false flag all the same.
To be fair I've suspected that some trolls who have American in their profiles are not but simply pretending to be so in order to make the USA look bad but I have my hands full discrediting the fake Canadians. The Yanks will have to police their own.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
America wanted Canada. Plain and simple. The US wanted to expand in every direction. I think the hope was that with the war in Europe, Britain could not help. And Canada would be an easy picking. But three cheers for the resident Canadian people and their Aboriginal allies in fighting back and holding the fort till help did arrive from Britain. Canadians residents, in that time, never wanted to be part of the US. The same hold true today!
5bagpiper 9 months ago
America had it's revolution,the war of 1812 was canada's revolution against the american status quo.
1988scottcarey 9 months ago
The War of 1812 was perpetrated by the Rothschilds to punish Jefferson because he refused to renew the charter of the Bank of the United States. The history books completely leave out the influence of the banking conspiracy which is the true history of the world.
OysterLava 10 months ago
@OysterLava The USA under Madison declared war on Britain & invaded the British colony of Canada 3 times while Britain was engaged in the Napoleonic wars. It was only Napoleons disastrous invasion of Russia that allowed Britain to free up enough troops to threaten the USA.
What ever the Rothschild's had against Jefferson they didn't push the war it was Jefferson himself who favored the war believing taking Canada was "Simply a matter of Marching".
Eddythebeast666 10 months ago
you americans outnumbered us ten to one
EthanD1997 10 months ago
@EthanD1997
But you guys were "Experienced"! XD
Ihavemilk4u 10 months ago
Napoleon could easily have not invaded.
What is so difficult about not doing something?
Why is so dfficult NOT tro invade Russia?
What on earth have they got thats desirable?
Anyway.he invaded and then blamed everyone else for his own invasion when he was the sole instigator of it.
When things went bad he blamed everyone else even more without ever accepting any blame whatsoever.
zenoist2 11 months ago 6
I couldn't concentrate on my textbook, this helped me so much! Thank you!!
colorcrayola 11 months ago
Thanks. This video was great study for my midterm coming up.
travelholic91 11 months ago
The Americans burned down York in what is now Toronto ....The British burned down the White House
Such a stupid war
At the end of it , the suits on both sides just agreed to pretend the whole thing never happened
All of those people were killed and mamed for nothing
On top of it , the war is almost forgotten in history
The good thing that came out of it is the ancestors on both sides realized how stupid it all was and agreed to unite as brothers, allies and trading partners
winterdock 11 months ago
watch?v=13qWADMfQnQ&feature=related
Bryannia25 11 months ago
Americans claim they never lost a war lol Yet they ran from VIETNAM and Korea I guess running away is a win to Americans
Bryannia25 1 year ago
@Bryannia25 Being from Canada as you are, I wouldn't be spouting off......
hopeurforfreedom 1 year ago
@hopeurforfreedom Americans are nothing more than barbarians and today they are no better than Hitler was in WW2 you should look up wikki leaks on Iraq Before your government has it taken down. I seen they Closed off one i seen last night where they shot up a car with 2 children inside .It is horrible what they are doing over there .They showed a solder saying killing people was fun and he enjoys killing
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Ha ha ha, I see you're waving your white flag of surrender now Bryannia.
Changing the subject entirely is a losers way of admitting defeat.
Are you still going to tell me that Canada never had slavery?
Or why is the Queens name listed as the home owner for the Canadian consulate?
Oh, and since you want to bring up war, like Iraq, let me ask you this : do you know why Canadian soldiers who were captured in the D-Day invasion were executed a lot by the Germans?
There was a reason
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 My white Flag lol i Simply said the American stories of 1812 was wrong in fact the navel battle that is talked about happened 3 years after the war of 1812 . Even that battle had no winner the British sailed away before daylight . Facts were United States crossed into Canada and were defeated by smaller force of settlers and not a professional armed force .When the regular force joined they they marched on to the white house
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 No, the Queen doesn't own the building.
It's like hopeurforfreedom stated, she's your head of state.
Oh, back to the War of 1812 I see.
Like I said, that's what losers do in a debate. When they get trapped, they merely change the subject.
Say, by the way, do you know if slavery existed in Canada? Just curious.
And the reason why the Germans executed a lot of Canadians after D-Day? Because they caught them with orders not to take German prisoners.
Hmmm, wonder what that meant.
THUD086 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Could your Royal Anthem be "God Save the Queen"? Could the Queen of England also be your Head of State?
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom well if you knew the Canadain Anthem you would know it is O Canada That was a bad troll
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 dumb ass, your country has two anthems, a Canadian and a Royal Anthem.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 You still haven't answered my question. Who is the Head of State in your country? Ours, unfortunately is barry. Who is your leader? Is the man or woman Canuck? Does your leader reside in Canuckland?
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@THUD086 Germans would not Fight head to head with Canada in WW@ research the battles you can see the tried to avoid Canadains because they never beat Canada in a battle .As for killing lol it was war . You say the queen owns something i say do your research
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 I guess you also forgot about Operation MarketGarden, which was under 100% British command, with Canadian units...it was the largest defeat for the Allies in in Europe, and btw...where was Canada getting all there equipment from???
hitide286 11 months ago
@hitide286 instead of asking do your research .In Canada our government do not hide in the shadows
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom lol Being from a baby killer nation like the united states you should not try talk shit about another country
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Baby killer nation? I believe Canada falls into that category. There are 30 abortions for every 100 live births. I wouldn't be casting stones.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom I take it you did not watch the link of use solders shooting up a van with 2 small children in it when the driver stopped to help 2 reporters that they just shot up . Yes in Iraq United States are guilty of war crimes .You should look up some stuff here on youtube .and in the world press that the American government banned to show in your country
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 innocents are killed in every war, you idiot.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom The U.S lost the was of 1812 then turned their guns on each other. When that was over they tried to wipe out the native population for land .
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Canada is also only one of a few nations that kills baby seals for harvesting.
What a disgracefull lot of turds you people are.
Oh, and by the way, you claim that Germany never defeated Canada in a battle? Are you that stupid? I guess you're not familiar with the Dieppe Raid in 1942.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 lol Canada mad it against the law to kill white coats over 30 years ago you may like to look up what you post lol .All photos of of people killing them are mostly over 30 years old or fake .Green peace loves to use old stuff to get your American bleeding hearts money.Do some research on the seal hunt
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 dumb ass, baby seals can be murdered when they begin molting, usually 12-15 days after birth. This is legal in Canada, you moron.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
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Bryannia25 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom Moron there is a big difference in Killing an animal for fur or food .Than Turing a 60mm on 2 reporters then shooting the hell out of a van that had children in it because the driver stopped to help the men that got shot .War crimes and your government tried to hide it .You people have no clue a sick country that are modern day Barbadians no better than Hitler was in WW2 .Look up the Iraq war it would make you sick .Where are the WOMD all the U S found was muster gas
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Butt-plug, if you'll look back a few posts, you made a claim killing baby seals was banned 30 years ago. Hell, you didn't even know Canucks playing "whack-a-pup" was still a sport. Hey, don't worry, you are free because of the American soldier putz. You have the luxury of having no enemies on your border and have lived under the American security blanket since WWII. It is because of America you live in utter luxury compared to the rest of the world.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 They were shot by a '60mm"?
A 60mm what?
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 look this up tell me was this not a war crime watch?v=13qWADMfQnQ&feature=related
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 yeah, Iraq is pretty sick, but what was sicker was rape rooms, summary executions, gassing your own citizens ect. I suppose you think Hussein should have stayed in power. BTW, Hussein was a major supporter of the morons who strapped on bombs to murder. You are the morally bankrupt soul for supporting the head of a government who could ever do such things. Whoever you complain about in your blather are nothing more than soldiers. All wars have bad incidents, dumb ass.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom Now i do not disagree with the reasons why they are in Iraq . It is time to pull out let them police them self
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom Saddam was supported by the USA for decades. That fact really under cuts your argument that you were motivated out of the goodness of your hearts in taking him out. fact is after supporting him so long you guys deserve to pay the bill for his removal.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 You try to get along with whoever is in power. Maybe you do not know this, but Hussein tried to have Bush Sr. assassinated while in Kuwait. That is reason enough in my book.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom Yes after the US turned on him. He asked permission of the USA before attacking Kuwait. The fact Saddam was a dick was never a question. The US knew that even when you were providing him with billions in weapons including the chemical weapons he used on Iran & eventually his own people. The question is after all the hell that that has been unleashed are the pricks we put in power any better then the one we took out.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 apparently you lack knowledge. Maybe the term "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" will help you understand the political climate over there. No matter what we thought of Iraq, Iran is worse. The chemical weapons weren't our, you moron.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom I'm not a spelling Nazi such errors don't bother me. We created the problem in Iran in the first place. The US was instrumental in Iraq's acquisition of the chemical weapons.
The Reagan administration did not stop aiding Iraq after receiving reports affirming the use of poison gas on Kurdish civilians. None of that is the problem. Hell I approve of the tactical reasoning. Our problem is we have lost all moral credibility.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 Chemical weapons are pretty easy to produce and Iraq produced their own. Moral credibility with whom, a bunch of tyrants? Who give a rats ass.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom Moral credibility With people. How can any of our nations expect respect if we don't act respectfully. There is no such thing as Anti-Americaisum if all the things people accuse us (The western powers) of doing is actually true.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 Excuuuuuuuuuse me. I left the "s" off "our" and should have read "ours".
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 EddyTheClueless, let me fill you in on where Saddams chemicals came from.
In the late 70's, the German firm of Karl Kobe provided him with their first ingredients for chemical weapons (CW's) to produce mustard gas.
From five other German firms, Saddam got botulin toxin & mycotoxin.
From the CDC (Center for Disease Control) in the U.S., they got samples only of anthrax, West Nile Virus, botulism, & Brucella melitensis for medical research purposes.
STANDBY
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Brazil provided him with about 100 tons of mustard gas in the early 80's.
The U.K. paid in full for a chlorine plant where Saddam was now able to produce his own mustard gas.
Singapore and India provided the ingredients for the VX nerve agent, and Tabum.
Egypt & Spain provided Saddam with the munitions needed designed to carry and disperse the CW's.
And Eddy, Iraq's battle rifle was the AK-47, Soviet tanks, Sukhoi and MiG aircraft, all from the Soviet Union.
STANDBY
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Now, would you be so kind to explain to us all here what U.S. made weapons was in Iraq's inventory, I sure would like to hear it from you.
Your move Eddy.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Author Barry M. Lando says, by 1987, the U.S. military was so invested in the correct outcome, that "officers from the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency dispatched to Baghdad were actually planning day-by-day strategic bombing strikes for the Iraqi Air Force." Iraq used this data to target Iranian positions with chemical weapons, says ambassador Galbraith. The CIA knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 Well Eddy, that's not an issue.
Remember, even though we were not friends of Saddam (we never were), he was at war with our new enemy, Iran.
Iranians overthrew the Shah, and held our embassy people hostage for 444 days.
They now become our enemy, more than Saddam became a friend.
That's the way those things work. I for one find no fault in it. I'll bet you find no fault in your mother country, the U.K.,even though they used gas on the Kurds back in the 1920's, right? Right?
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 I'm well aware of the Commonwealths involvement in the mess that has become the Middle East that is the only reason I've been using "We" & "Our" in stead of "You" & "Yours".
The creation of Israel & the vast majority of other Mid East problems was our mistakes. The USA had no blame in the creation of them.
You guys jumped in to that steaming pile of crap as we were desperately trying to get the hell out.
Right now a bit of moral high ground is the only issue because no one trusts us.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@THUD086 Even our most innocent attempts at help inspire backlash & rage.
We have huge financial interests in the region. China is gaining ground too fast. All they have to do is wait as all the compromises we made in the past blow up in our faces one after another.
I don't see a winnable scenario. We have compromised too many of our princables.
Do WE even trust our selves any more? Really, I sure as hell fact check every word the Jokers up here claim as truth.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 It's not as bad as you may think Eddy. We've been through worse, and still survived.
You have to have faith, and pay no attention to the "doomsday propheteers", who have predicting nonsense for ages.
We will all pull through adversities just fine, we always do.
Keep the faith.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Again its not the tactical actions that are the problem. They are all reasonable for the times in which they occurred. Our problem is we have lost all moral credibility.
Damned in I know how we get that back It would be extremally useful to have now that the whole Middle East is tossing out all the bastards we have been doing business with.
Eddythebeast666 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 What is it with Canadians and killing the young? Slaying helpless baby seals, which is no different than taking a baseball bat to young puppies.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Ah stupid, the Korean War was a U.N. war where we did all the heavy lifting.
The Vietnam War was a Vietnamese civil war between North & South Vietnam, it was not an American War. It only looks that way because again, we do all the heavy lifting.
Nor did we "run", as you say. We simply left because of anti-war sentiment at home. The U.S. military was not defeated in Vietnam.
Tell us about wars that Canada has won.
THUD086 1 year ago
@THUD086 you all got your asses kicked by rice farmers .While your people are still in Iraq killing civilians look up wikki leakes Iraq here in youtube you will see solders killing children
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 You must be one very stupid Canuck Bryannia.
Good thing your YT username isn't Brain. That would be like false advertising.
Oh, by the way, where did the U.S. get their "asses kicked by rice farmers"? I have no idea what you're talking about.
We did fight in a place called Vietnam, but we had a 20:1 kill ratio over their soldiers there, so surely you must mean someplace else.
And yes, we did have the balls to attack England, in the Revolutionary War. Look up John Paul Jones.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Why is when you Americans are wrong some one and you have to lower your self to name calling . If i new you were a 12 year old child i would just ignored you
Bryannia25 11 months ago
The British's War goal never really was to retake the USA. And honestly, why would they? It was would be a matter of time before they rose up again, and the British were more interested in interests in India and the colonies that hadn't rebelled in America. Canada/Britain defeated American invasion and lost no territory. Meanwhile the USA failed to invade Canada and Maddison's plan of the "Matter of Marching" invasion failed utterly. I think its safe to say that Canada/Britain won xD
Bryannia25 1 year ago
@Bryannia25 Funny.....
hopeurforfreedom 1 year ago
TheMaskhadov nobody won the war because it was a stalemate because no real objectives were accomplished on either sides, besides repelling the the americans in canada. england still didn't destroy the US, and it stilled remained soverign in the end. also burning down a capital doesn't mean you win. because if it does then that means the US won vietnam NOT
Brody400 1 year ago
The USA invented the wheel? Huh why not lol. ;-) After all didn't Al Gore invent the Internet.
Bwa ha haa I just had to throw that jab in. Lol
summer20105707 1 year ago
This was hardly a big war and undoubtedly Britain won, because they burned whasington DC and generally showed the Americans up. The act of gang pressing is not a reason for invading a country or an Empire. This was most likely oppurtunist Americans thinking they can get a good chunk of Canada while Britan was at war in the Napoleonic war.
TheMaskhadov 1 year ago
@TheMaskhadov If Britain won, how come you withdrew, never to return?
hopeurforfreedom 1 year ago
@hopeurforfreedom British won the war of 1812 do to the fact USA was unable to take the British territory . It was the USA that was the aggressor of the war of 1812
Bryannia25 1 year ago
@Bryannia25 I can understand a Canadian's view of how they want to "interpret" the War of 1812, as a way to console themselves from their shame.
You see, unlike the U.S. which fought the British Empire for it's independence, and Mexico, which fought the Spanish for it's independence in 1821, Canada has never done it. They remained subservient to their British lords and masters, too cowardly to fight for freedom.
That's the shame that Canadian's must carry with them in life.
THUD086 1 year ago
@THUD086 lol Canada was always free we did not need to fight to own slaves or did we wish to kill off the native people of this land like Americans . United States attacked settlements and did not have the balls to attack England
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Canada was not always free. Here, pay attention stupid and learn something about your own history, obviously something you never learned.
Canada was a British colony until 1867, when it became a confederation, excluding a few areas still under British rule.
The Statute of Westminster in 1931 gave Canada it's independence to a degree, but still answerable to British Parliament until 1982.
Then you became independent, but only by decree.
Canada never fought for it per se.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 And what did you fight for to dodge a tax bill you could call that freedom of a sort but I'm sure if I private indivdual tried it the banks would have somewthing to say. Al hail the tax todgers republic right whats the first act oh yeah were raising taxes!
TheMaskhadov 11 months ago
@THUD086 Canada was an independed country sense 1867 and as a part of the commonwealth of nations are still loyal to the queen/king of the Commonwealth . this do not mean Canada answers to England ,You have no clue what you are talking about
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 No, you were not independent in 1867, and your entry into WW1 a day after the U.K. declared war on the Central Powers proved that. Even more, your forces were entirely under under British command.
You're still an idiot.
Aaaawww, did I shatter your Canadian myth? Are you even still going to tell me there was no slavery in Canada?
Do your homework, and then get back to me and try to tell me that there was no slavery in Canada. Or do you dare?
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Buddy you do not know shit get your facts before you post then we will talk .The rants of a uneducated American is not worth my time
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Then go back to bed you fucking canuck.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 I do post facts, the problem with morons like you is, you can't dispute them because you're ignorant.
Take my advice here.
Stop skipping school. That's right, get back into the classroom. Learn your school lessons. Study hard, and hopefully by the time you turn 18, you should be able to graduate and get a diploma.
Because if you don't, you'll go through life being the idiot that you are.
Now, get back in school, and good luck.
THUD086 11 months ago
. At that time the population of Canada was almost entirely French, but in the next few decades, thousands of British colonists emigrated to Canada from the British Isles and from the American colonies. In 1849, the right of Canada to self-government was recognized.
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@THUD086 we entered Because we fought for the Commonwealth of Nations that we are a part of you may like to do some more research as well we entered ww2 with Britain .When you know what you are talking about then post
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 You mean "commonwealth of British nations", you idiot.
You were still under British rule.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 (Rupert's Land) from which the provinces of Manitoba (1870), Alberta (1905), and Saskatchewan (1905) were later formed. In 1871, British Columbia joined the dominion, and in 1873, Prince Edward Island followed. The country was linked from coast to coast in 1885 by the Canadian Pacific Railway.
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Would you like me to give you American history? Don't waste your time and mine, but just tell me that you didn't have slavery in Canada.
Oh, by the way. The Canadian consulate here in the Boston area was just given a new residence to live in in Wellesly Mass. On the real estate transaction, the owner is listed as, and get this,,,,Queen Elizabeth the second.
Do you know why the Queens name is listed as the owner for the Canadian consulate?
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 i Can not Fix stupid d no it is no it is the Commonwealth of Nations not British nations and you think Canada is still under British rule you make me Lol
Bryannia25 11 months ago
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@Bryannia25 you are so stupid, you think you are free....
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 I never said that Canada is still under British rule. Either you are a liar, or you have a reading comprehension problem. Check the comments.
But I did ask you why Queen Elizabeth is listed as the owner of a recently purchased home for the Canadian consulate in Boston. Do you have the answer? I don't, that's why I'm asking you, a Canadian, who should know why the Queens name is listed as the owner for the Canadian consulate.
Answer please, or go back to bed like hope said.
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Probably she owns the building then lol .Look it up i always thought the Canadian consulate was in NY city .I know it use to be there With an office outlet in in California
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Who is your Head of State? Ours is Barry Obama.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 What is your countries Royal Anthem? Can you name it?
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Moron, I'll help you figure out who you are with one question. Who is the Your Head of State?
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 Until you get rid of the fat chick with bad teeth as your Head of State, you aren't truly free.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom I wish you would not talk about your mother like that
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 If my mom were your Head of State, you'd be free, she'd abdicate before she stepped foot in moron land.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@hopeurforfreedom lol must be the same bad troll jumping accounts
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 By the British North America Act of 1867, the dominion of Canada was created through the confederation of Upper and Lower Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick. In 1869
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 You are owned by Britain. Americans are free, we are citizens of our own country. You are a subject, subject to the will of a foreign power, Britain.
hopeurforfreedom 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 google Canada lol
Bryannia25 11 months ago
@Bryannia25 And boy, you really stepped in a pile of dogshit over slavery. Look into Canadas history Einstein, and you will see that you did have slavery. It just wasn't as well publicized today because of U.S. slavery overshadowed it.
Afua Cooper is an instructor at the University of Toronto who has expertise in the subject. Do you think you can muster up as much as two brain cells to research this and see for yourself, or are you afraid that your myth would be shattered?
Go ahead, look it up
THUD086 11 months ago
@THUD086 Paying a person a fee to work for them no matter the colour ( yes it is colour not color the lazy Americana way ) paying some one to work was called employment .Beating them have to death and starving them to male them work is slavery
Bryannia25 11 months ago