Sugar Ray Robinson knocks out Randy Turpin

[infecteous1]

this fight was also one of robinsons greatest moment. at the end of the 9th round the ref was going to stop it because of the cut on rays eye, if he did ray would of lost to turpin again. instead the ref gave him 1 more round and he got the victory. notice in the 10th after the 1st k.o. there were only 40 sec left, knowing that another k.o. could expire the round, instead ray held him up on the ropes and unleashed his flurries for a TKO. one of the best of all time.

[crowley0312]

7:12 for a welterweight, Robinson was pretty hard hitting.

[thewelshviper]

wish there was footage of his first fight with lamotta robinson is the greatest of all time his two fights with basilio as well are classic slugfests

[gsg9ff]

That Turpin was one tuff SOB

[RandomLevitation]

Robinson, Ali and Leonard all moved the same. Slight differences, But all had the same idea. Robinson had alotta power though, Somewhat fast but mainly those hook combinations were deadly. Ali had the movement, and the speed. He could stay on his toes forever, and his natural arm length was amazing. Leonard was all speed. Not very powerful but damn he could throw like 10 punch combos and never lose speed throughout the hole combination.

3 Incredible fighters

[JcLeopard]

@RandomLevitation Leonard was not as hard a puncher as Robinson but he has alot more power than he is given credit for. When Leonard sat down on his punches he could lay some guys out. One thing that I love about Leonard is his ability to switch styles. SRL could go from BoxerPuncher, to Slugger/Inside Figher, to Pure Boxer/Point Fighter in an instant depending on the person he was fighting. Which ever style he though would work the best.

[RandomLevitation]

@JcLeopard I like that he was a solid athlete. Reminds me of Mayweather Jr, A dedicated athlete. But Robinsons punches were devastating, He hit so hard

[JcLeopard]

@RandomLevitation I agree, but I think there is a Notable Difference between Mayweather jr. and Sugar Ray Leonards power. I couldn't see Floyd brawling 15 rounds with Duran. When Leonard realized he couldn't out box Tommy Hearns who was one of the biggest punchers in the divisions history he actually went inside and out brawled him. Sugar Ray Leonard was a natural welterweight and was much more dangerous than Floyd. He was also a GREAT finisher when he got you in trrouble.

[tull06]

@RandomLevitation A dedicated athlete who was well known for living the lifestyle of a socialite outside the ring?

[RandomLevitation]

@tull06 What does being social have to do with being a dedicated athlete? Nobody trains harder than Mayweather.

[tull06]

@RandomLevitation He was a well publicised drinker and smoker in his spare time, by todays standards fighters back then were no were near the physical condition thats fighters are today.

[RandomLevitation]

@tull06 By standards today? Are you fuckin kidding me? By standards today physical ability has nothing to do with it seeing as fighters get knocked out by the smallest blows. Any fighter post 1977 would be beaten brutally by any fighter throughout the 1920s-1969. They were tougher, they fought more, they were rough and rugged. Now days its all softer heavier gloves, fighters taking a year off, sometimes only fighting once a year...Ali would fight 5 times a year, sometimes 6

[RandomLevitation]

@tull06 Being an athlete is one thing, being a fighter is another. You had fighters constantly fighting people, which makes them tough, Becoming the champ and than picking and choosing your fights for the next 10 years isn't tough, its smarts. An early fighter would win the belt and have to defend it instantly, they wouldn't get to choose who to fight like now days.

[brandofan]

I think Monzon gets the best of middleweight robinson.

[natureboyinyourface]

turpin's one of the finest boxers to ever come out of britain.

[CIGARROmusical]

I saw the part of the slow motion with good music, really beatiful

[youlosez]

Turpin deserves some credit for surviving as long as he did on the ropes after getting rocked. Damn, I couldn't believe he was dodging that many of Robinson's bullets.

[dcasey77]

But then again, you could also look at it in a different way.

Maybe if Turpin had never won the World Title, he might not have committed suicide.

There's no doubt, it's a tragic story.

[dcasey77]

I've always found this difficult to watch. When you consider how things turned out for Turpin, it's easy to see that maybe Turpin lost a lot more than just the World Title here.

The stoppage is debatable and if he had won instead due to Robinson's cut eye, he would not have had the massive anticlimax of being World Champion for only 64 days.

Maybe if he had been champion a little longer, he could have coped better in his later years and perhaps he wouldn't have committed suicide...

[snoop11080]

@dcasey77 i thought that was a good stoppage, turpin was out on his feet from that last punch.

[dcasey77]

Robinson is missing most of his punches. Turpin's mistake was in concentrating on making Robinson miss. He succeeded but in doing so and not fighting back, he made himself look defenseless.

[matcross23]

Turpin's awkward style and timing threw Robinson off his game in the first and second fight he dieserves a lot of credit for it.

Masterclass given by robinson, knew his eye was in bad condition and could have lost the return bout but he pulled it out of the big. An attribute along with many others that cement Robinson as one of, if not the greatest P4P fighter of the 20th century.

[skaha77]

@matcross23 Greatest p4p in history. 

[skaha77]

@matcross23 Greatest p4p in history. Sugar was mad as a hornetsw nest at 7:00. He was measuring the guy every time he threw a punch

[MrVaquero89]

202 pro bouts 175 won what more can you say

[platinumberg09]

is robinson in the white shorts or in the black shorts

[kingjaythree]

@platinumberg09 white shorts.

[BooRikkaaa101]

Robinson is vicious. Look at how fast and hard those shots are. Everyone of them looks like they would rip your head off. This is why he is the best fighter of all time. Ali was great and has great speed for a heavyweight, but he couldn't punch like that. Same thing with Leonard, he had good pop and great speed, but Sugar Ray Robinson was a monster and the complete fighting machine.

[jodete81]

que derecha por dios

[cul84loow]

THAT SLOW MOTION ACTION WAS CRUCIAL!! DAMN!!!

[mrbuck1188]

Turpin had to get it! Thy were friends afterwards !

[banderhoos]

Nobody combined impeccable skill, frightening power, and cold fury the way Sugar Ray did.

[ajp135212]

@banderhoos he had skills but also had alot of flaws i don think ppl asses srr fairly they only point out the good, the man also had flaws am i the only one who sees it

[mayvee001]

@dreamer9644 and bassilo a welter smaller than him beat him so i guess he made mistakes too and name one guy that ray beat the roy would not destroy please kid grow up

[tonyteb]

i still say p4p skills for skills roy jones jr cant be touched at his best

[mrmoofle]

"Sugar fights so good it makes your dick hard!" - Richard Pryor

[ballisticbliss]

Greatest ever, but against #2 and #3 Hagler or Monzon would have interesting.

[abuffalo19]

They don't make guys like this anymore. Turpin could've made it maybe, but then again these days he wouldn't have been allowed to take such punishment. Should get the likes of Ronaldo & Drogba to watch this...

[ro666in]

Check The suga' man unload his perfectly executed combo's, this is why I love watching his fights !!! Cheers for uploading man!

[afarius]

Imo, i think that sugar Ray Robinson has THE best Right hand in the history.

[crimdell]

Ray was throwing everything at him in the final seconds but Turpin just wouldn't go down. There were a lot of misses but the chin of Turpin must be made of stone. Unreal.

[ExplosiveThinMan]

Ray Robinson on this night couldve beaten any middleweight that ever lived.

He had it all.

[aksaboutm3]

oops accidently rated 2

[essexboy240]

wtf? Are you serious? Turpin was a black British guy what has that got to do with ashkenazi Jews?

[stardingo747]

yeah, yeah, my bad; better remove my dumbshit comment.

I found that out on an official bio webpage the other night.

[stardingo747]

it doesn't change the fact that ashkenazi Jews are the "sons of darkness" described in the Dead Sea scrolls, however.

The ancient texts clearly dictate, the bloodline of Jacob HAD to be continued; the Talmud has zero authority on who is Jewish, you are only Jewish if both your mother and father descend from Jacob. That rule was just interpreted thus as an excuse for ashkenazi in Europe to pimp out their daughters to powerful noble to make money.

[stardingo747]

fuckers are watered down, its their own fucking fault, and now they have to treat the REAL Hebrews like shit.

ugh, lesson learned here essexboy, never post a comment on youtube when you're angry, or you'll make an ass of yourself like I did a while back as you pointed out. From now if I'm pissed off, I'll either keep quiet, or talk politics.

[frisbyrb5]

just red srr book, he says for this fight they practised feighting the jab , because turpin always pulled his head back, if you look at the first ko, he feights the left jab and throws a big right, when turpins head is fully back.

[ThePresident45]

Sugar Ray looks like a machine with the last combinations he throws at Turpin right before the ref intervenes and stops the contest.

[lolzomfgmen]

Surprised the ref let it the 10th go on for so long: it was over by 6:30 tbh.

[Whyavier]

Guys could really take a shot in those days... though it doesn't look like they're always going for the chin.

[ThePresident45]

Robinson was 30-31 years old in this fight. Look at the reflexes at 26-28 second mark and the marvelous combination he throws at the 1:28-1:30 mark. Makes you wonder what he would have looked at when he was in his early to mid twenties. When Turpin beat Sugar Ray in England he stopped Sugar Ray's 90 plus win streak dating back to 1943. Sugar Ray Robinson, the had the greatest combination of weapons any boxer has ever had!

[corytclark]

Robinson was at his best at welterweight. Unfortunately, there is very little footage of him at welterweight.

The footage that shows Robinson at his best would be either this or his sixth fight with LaMotta. I personally think he was only a hair past his best in his last fight with LaMotta.

[sugarnadf]

even when he was welterweight champ he fought alot of fights as a middleweight.he was having trouble makin weight.but anyway the robinson before his 3 year layoff was at his best at any period.after that he had evrything but his footspeed. also theres footage of robinson in 1948 and 1950 on youtube, infact i think sweetfights has them ;)

[jeryd2003]

i see the power in sugar ray robinson's punches but not the foot speed. foot speed way over rated. foot balance way over rated.

[shankthatup]

na bro the way he doubles up with his left hooks then leaps into a 3rd requirs fast foot work

[coripearson]

Watch him fight Lamotta

[shkotay]

Be reminded here he was about 36-37 and considered be be fairly far past his prime. Turpin was as prme as they get and no slouch. Highly awkward too...awkward guys are tough to fight cleanly.

[corytclark]

If you are ssaying Robinson was 36-37 at the time of THIS fight, than you are way off!

He was 30 years old at the time of this fight.

[shkotay]

I probably am because its been ages since I looked up the story, but I always though he was in his mid to late 30s by the time he lost the fight to Turpin then got it back. I'll look up Boxrec.

[BlindLemonJaffaCake]

Good grief Randy was one tough nut. How did he get up from that right hand? From what I'm told he was a good man and a fine boxer.

[sergelapelle]

I assume you already know his tragic life story - if you don't then it's worth looking up.

[grandescirea]

este combate pa mi bastante mejor que el primero sin ser una maravilla no se que pudo pasar en el primero robinson no parecia el . no fue digno de uno que suelta una exibicion cada vez que se subia al cuadrilatero, LA FORMA DE FINALIZAR ROBINSON EL COMBATE UNA MARAVILLA

[rickmcn1986]

wow isnt it incredible that there are several videos showing the second fight, but none showing the first one!

[youngfase5]

someone should post it

[PatMarine]

How did Turpin get up from that right hand? One tough SOB

[JcLeopard]

I meant to say shoulder roll in that last comment.

[Czerniakowska]

Turpin was a seriously flawed personality and I think he was on a downward slope even from the time of his victory over Robinson in London. Sugar Ray was pretty much the complete fighter, with lightning speed and a scything punch in each hand. I wonder, though, how that defence of his would have coped with a puncher with the power of, say, Tommy Hearns or Carlos Monzon?

[ExplosiveThinMan]

Tommy Hearns would be dangerous for anybody but if they fought I dont think Hearns would be able to handle Sugar Ray`s offense. SRR had similar power to Tommy but faster feet, a better chin and better stamina.

Once Ray hurt him that would be the end.

Monzon would be tougher because he had a good chin and stamina. His defense was better than Hearns. That one would be a toss up.

[Czerniakowska]

It was all so long ago but I seem to recall that the only fighters who ever caused Monzon any real trouble were Briscoe and Valdes, and the Argentinian low-life didn't really train for the second Valdes fight. It would have been interesting to see how SRR would have stood up against Hagler, who also had a good chin. I guess the clue might be Marvin's fight with Leonard. Would SRR have adopted the same tactics as did SRL?

[ExplosiveThinMan]

I dont think Robinson would run around like Leonard did. Ray Leonard wasnt as powerful of a middleweight as Robinson.

I think Sugar Ray Robinson would stick and move but he had enough on his punches to make Hagler respect his power.

I dont know that he could stop Hagler but I think he would have won a decision with his faster hands and faster feet.

Robinson put together blazing combinations with power on every punch he threw.

[lindarmusic]

@ExplosiveThinMan

Robonson is the best ever. Not human lol.

The best human at middleweight was Marvelous hagler the legend.

[TermiteAssassin1]

Oh, dude. I didn't mean to give you a thumbs down, I was trying to give you a thumbs up. My bad.

[ExplosiveThinMan]

I think Sugar Ray Robinson on this night couldve beaten any Middleweigth that ever lived. He was in great shape, had lightening speed, explosive power and his footwork was flawless. He was the perfect fighter machine.

[JcLeopard]

Has anyone noticed that randy turpin seems to be using modified shoulder in certain points of this fight.

[ExplosiveThinMan]

Randy Turpin was lucky he didnt get hurt bad during that finish. The ref did him no favors. Today they wouldve stopped that much sooner.

[reltonpelton]

also, can i just say it is a delight to see so many of what i assume are older folks being so respectful of both fighters. the comments on modern day anglo/english world title clashes are a panoply of trash talking and abuse and excuses...the truly class dont need to talk. im only in my twenties by the way.

its just a shame nobody told floyd mayweather this. he could have been great instead of just good

[reltonpelton]

is there any footage of the first fight in existence?

[PakGangsta17]

An extraordinary boxer - most certainly (and rightly so) rated as the greatest fighter of all time, something that Muhammad Ali, himself acknowledged. None-theless Turnip fought a great fight with great conviction & fortitude. Having said that, I agree with most chaps who have contributed with their comments. That is, that Turpin would have suffered severely had the fight not been prematurely halted.

[gangst1978]

Would of loved to of seen this man as a weltweight, his prime weight believe it or not! just shows you how good he was the best ever no question!

[koddswollop]

turpin complained about the stoppage afterwards but i would have stopped it even sooner because he wasnt throwing anything back and he was helpless for quite a while, im britsh aswell but i do take my hat off to beating robinson first time around

[frisbyrb5]

the fight was nearly stopped earlier i read, with turpin opening a large gash above robinsons left eye, true heart to not go down on the ropes, shows his will to win dont think the ref should of stopped it, best british boxer ever.

[foxygranpa6]

frisbyrb5:

Interestingly, the referee was Ruby Goldstein, the same New York State Athletic Commission referee who, about 10 years later, ruined his own career through his misfortune of refereeing the third Emile Griffith/Benny Paret match that resulted in Paret's death.

[foxygranpa6]

frisbyrb5:

Some experts criticized Goldstein for having a tendency to stop fights too quickly. But Robinson was at or just past his peak at the time; in a few more seconds he might have killed Turpin. He had killed Jimmy Doyle about five years earlier, and Goldstein must have known that. Robinson was one of the hardest hitters, was one of the best combination punchers, and had hands that were among the fastest in history. He was one of only 4 fighters to score more than 100 knockouts.

[foxygranpa6]

frisbyrb5:

On the other hand, Griffith had only a fair punching ability. The previous round had been basically even; Paret had held his own.

Paret had been KOed by Gene Fullmer a few months before and his death may well have been a result of cumulative beatings.

So, if Goldstein had stopped Robinson/Turpin a few seconds later, and Griffith/Paret a few seconds earlier, who knows how things might have been different? In the interim, he was known as 'One of the best referees in America.'

[foxygranpa6]

frisbyrb5:

Please don't misunderstand; It's not my purpose to pick a quarrel. I don't know any more about boxing, or refereeing, than you do. For all I know, Goldstein may have stopped it too soon. But, he may also have saved Randy's life.

In the absence of the gift of prophecy, Monday Morning Quarterbacking is the best we can manage. I'm as guilty as anyone else. Football, boxing, and refereeing are skills that I have never possessed.

[corytclark]

There have been more than 4 fighters who have scored 100+ knockouts. Here they are (according to BoxRec):

Sam Langford-129 (I thought it was 116) Archie Moore-131 Henry Armstrong-101 (I thought it was 102) Sandy Saddler-103 Young Stribling-128

[foxygranpa6]

corytclark:

Thanks for completing my list; I was unaware of Sam Langford and Henry Armstrong.

The only point I was trying to make, however, was that only a mere handful of fighters in history had scored as many knockouts as Robinson.

[mhy249]

turpin the greatest.

[BlackCountryLad]

Turpin you was one tough bastard mate. RIP old son.

[Peterh588]

Robinson was great but we don't see a lot of footage from when he was under 30. All his famous fights were fought when he was in his mid to late 30s. Boxers peak well before then.

[ExplosiveThinMan]

Robinson was only 31 in this fight. He was close to his peak maybe slightly past it. There is also films of his fight with LaMotta where he was 31 and his bout with Graziano where he was 32.

[1goat]

Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest fighter in history. The debate begins with, who's number two. Robby was one of the top-5 punchers at both middleweight and welterweight. And for a guy who always says how much he hated violence, he was a nasty bastard in the ring. And don't let him get you hurt or in trouble, or it's all over!

[jhman07]

well thats the game of boxing...its not violence, robby shows alot of respect to his opponents, even to this guy after they fought.

[lemigod]

Randy Turpin still remains the most talented Boxer Britian has ever produced.

Forget the Overrated Hattons and Calzhages coz Turpin was the best of them all.

[lemonite1]

what about Ted Kid' Lewis or Buchannan? Turpin was great though. man was he an awkward fighter; real squirly, loose. he ain't cooperating with Robby here. must be driving Robby mad, he looks frustrated here, something one never saw outta Robinson. It took a pissed of Robinson to really beat Turpin.

[mhy249]

turpin was better because hes english,much tougher than you yanks,get a gripp yanks were better..

[cliptych]

So nice to see a good-quality clip from this era. Turpin's is one of the sadder stories in British boxing, but this gives some idea of what he was capable of, and of Sugar Ray's greatness.

[boxingnut1986]

that shit was amazing robinson is the greatest

[Thesunrisecat]

One of the best clips I've seen of Robinson.. Most of the clips the audio is horrible or non existant. The sound of the punches is superb. This is the kind of video you show the dumb kids that say Tyson was the best.

[bagzie]

This was back when boxing was a real sport - not about all the ridiculous politics and bullshit boxing is today.

[schmoop14]

It wasn't about ridiculous politics and bullshit? Hey, there were great fighters who fought often and fought each other, but this was also the era of mobsters Blinky Palermo and Frankie Carbo being boxing's "underworld commissioners." Even Jack Newfield, in his excellent book picking apart Don King, points out they were worse than King ever would be. There's a reason MSG matchmaker Teddy Brenner's book, covering mostly this era, was called "Only The Ring Was Square."

[AuldThwaite]

What a chin on Turpin those were bone breakers! Carmen Basillio who has no great love of Ray concedes that he was the hardest puncher he had ever faced-shattered his eye socket early on-. I would have to say he was prob the best of everything in his prime.

[AuldThwaite]

ROBINSONS WORK WITH HIS SHOULDER IS SUPERB ALMOST AS WELL TIMED AS HIS PUNCHES! Turpin could really fight and was a stronger man than Ray pysically, but Ray can do it all and he is past his prime here.

[LorcanFilms]

This fight shows Robinson's true greatness! Turpin's jerky, awkward style really upset Sugar Ray's rhythm. Yet despite being badly cut, he scored the needed KO. Robinson was the greatest -- something even Ali concedes!

[carbert68]

Awesome stuff! Thank you. One of the biggest wins of Robinson's incredible career.