1996 collision of a Beech 1900 and King Air Quincy, IL

[wankel7]

Of corse the King Air should have held short. And the airliner should have been looking for conflicting traffic. If I was a crew member on the airliner and lived I would have felt very responsible for the accident.

[wankel7]

Both crews were at equal fault.

[firehawk46064]

@wankel7 The UEX Great Lakes crew was not at fault. The King Air should have held short and given right of way to the landing Airliner.

[gbthecoach]

I am amazed that the son in law of the King Air pilot has gone on the net to try and defend his father in law. The guy was 100% at fault for the accident and the 1900 crew did everything by the book. The King Air pilot had a long history of erratic behavior and poor decision making during his long flying history. He died in the crash but sadly so did 13 others. Sometimes life is not fair and the guy that should not have been flying takes innocent lives with him.

[oracle2world]

Speaking about a one in a million accident.

[mjd4277]

I remember this accident. The 1900C was operating as United Express Flight 5925 under contract with Great Lakes Airlines was inbound from Burlington,Iowa. Tail number was N87GL.

[firehawk46064]

@mjd4277 I had hundreds of hours in 87GL... it was a good airplane.

[stickturn]

very bad airmanship...

[cantroos]

@stickturn you mean groundmanship

[mikearuba]

there are about 17,000 airports in the US and only about 700 of them have control towers. It's a pilot's paradise! (If you play by the rules)

[jimmacke]

UIN does not have a control tower. If it did I don't think this would have happened.

[Airlineguy427]

@jimmacke That's a HUGE assumption! Are you a pilot? If you are sir, you should know that pilot controlled airports are as safe as towered ones as long as pilots are doing what they are trained to do keep situational awarness!

[pastorgeorgem]

@Airlineguy427 I'm not a pilot but heck Even i Know That! it is the Same when running heavy Equipment always watching everything or else you flatten something or someone or worse killing yourself and everyone else around you same goes for pca's or Tca's its all about checking and re-checking and alot of radio communication!

[Airlineguy427]

@pastorgeorgem You are absolutely correct on that one pastorgeorgem!

[av8rdav]

@Airlineguy427 I have flown into controlled and uncontrolled airports. I have never had a traffic issue at controlled airports. It's uncontrolled that I've had close calls at. Most often because the other aircraft is on the wrong frq. or doesn't have a radio. Point is: I think controlled airports are marginally safer.

[sheik718]

I don't remember that happening at all. Damn.

[agentfazexx]

Which flight sim is this? Doesn't look like FSX, which I have.

[Nassault630]

I think it's a computer reconstruction, not a sim.

[AleshaBunnyPrincess]

Man I remember this, I have a binder full of the coroner's pictures too... it was BAD

[ecktoeman]

Taking a runway when another airplane has announced that it is on final, and you don't have visual on it? Lame. TWA 'captain' eh? That's not captain material, I'd never upgrade him. Perhaps someone who is used to always flying into controlled airports is not suited to fly charter.

[archer49d]

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that the guy in the 200 was a bad pilot, because by all accounts he was... but you're seriously saying you'd never take the active when traffic is landing on a crossing runway?

[Toilu]

wow thats unlucky!

[JamamaO7]

BOO!!!

[Ironmaidenrock4eva]

this highlights the advantage of tower controlled airfields

[mamamia2121]

wait-so there were no ATC controllers? just a whole bunch of pilots?

[Heatho]

It was an uncontrolled field. Not all airfields in the US are controlled, many don't have any ATC at all. This airport in particular receives ATC services from a radar controller in Kansas City. The radar controller can only see to about 1,200 feet AGL due to limited radar coverage.

[firehawk46064]

@mamamia2121 it was an uncontrolled field...no controllers... the pilots communicate thru a common airport frequency to let eachother know what they are doing ...

[N8229Y]

I'm sorry for all the victims and families. According to the NTSB accident report, the pilot of the King Air did not announce his takeoff on CTAF, although his co-pilot did announce their taxi. The King Air pilot was a retired TWA Captain, Air Force pilot, and CFII. He had 25,647.8 hours. The copilot was a CFII and was flying to build her multi-engine time. She had 1,462.2 hours. It really makes no sense at all.

[firehawk46064]

The Captain of the 1900 was a friend of mine... her name was Kate. We went thru Captain upgrade training together for the same airline in the same class. I really liked her and her husband/family was nice. They didn't deserve this. Sucks. This was a hard one for me (and all the others) to swallow. The king air was at fault. It was not Kate or her first officer's fault.I quit flying in 1998. Some were trapped alive inside as it burned. The FO was married just a couple weeks when this happened.

[katana1150]

so if you are not flying! what are you doing now

[Xaqman]

The poor crew and pax were trapped alive in the burning 1900 due to a jammed door. RIP.

[jmr604]

Very sad... I've been a pilot for 8 years. I fly nearly every single day now... you gotta be careful... it doesn't take much... one simple little mistake... and its all over.

[virtualaircanada2458]

holy crap

[Larryjoe147]

I believe a business friend of my dad's died in this plane crash

[pfp217]

I was working In SPI (Springfield IL) that night. I saw the GLA crew the night before, I was 19 years old. That was the first time anything like that hit so close to home. I remember half the SPI Great Lakes staff going to UIN to help. Sad deal, all because another aircraft didn't want to wait 30 seconds to let the landing (right of way) aircraft land.

[AUSTINSvideos]

i live near here.

[blackbird1080]

sucks