What really irks me about this is that it's a lie. The Arab Spring Revolutions were NOT NON-VIOLENT. Not a single one; not Egypt, not Syria, not Tunisia. Video after video shows thousands not only defending themselves, but taking the offensive with urban guerrilla warfare. They fire-bombed police stations around Cairo in order to topple the regime. They used molotovs, rocks, poles...There is no way the Arab Spring would have happened without the violent revolutionaries who died to defend it.
Very educational video. Specially when he talked about “Maria Stafford Book about non-violent struggle talks about the statistics In the last 35 years in different social transitions from Dictatorship to Democrasy you will see that out of 67 different cases in 50 of these cases it was a non violent struggle which was the key power” The examples of non violent struggle leaders are Mahtma Ghandi and Marthin Luther King.
@YonasChannel Hey Yonas, it is a great book analysing more than 300 different conflicts from 1900 - 2006, proving that in fact nonviolent struglle is far more efficient. Names of authors are Maria Stephan and Erica Chenoweth and name of th book is "Why Civil Resistance works".
TED ES UNO DE MIS FAVORITOS PERO HAY OCASIONES EN QUE NO ENCUENTRO LOS SUBT. EN ESPAÑOL UTILIZO LOS VIDEOS PARA AMPLIAR MIS CLASES YA QUE ME DEDICO A LA EDUCACIÓN ,PODRÍAN AYUDARME .DANDOME ALGÚN CONSEJO TECNICO?
@vorp100 El botón cc (Closed Caption) activa los subtitulos en inglés (transcribir audio), y luego le das a traducir subtitulos, no siempre lograrás una buena traducción pero es lo más cercano a lo que necesitas, rápido y sencillo. Lo otro sería descargar el video, elaborar los subtitulos tu, unirlos con algun editor de video y cargarlo a youtube nuevamente.
People Power is now so wide and indigenous phenomenon that sad all narrative coming mainly from Milosevic days, that`s all abou foreign mercenaries sound soo sad and archaic. Guys, wake up, the whole generation in the world from Noth Africa, through countries like Greece to walstreet but also Russia is soooo fed up by political elite that they stand up for their rights. They dont need NOBODY from outside to tell them how to do it, please dont underestimate those young men and women!
People need to realize that every real revolution is a revolution of culture, the current occupy movements face a paradigm and a value institution more than a group of people or actual institution. Non-violent struggle if properly used will open a way for a new paradigm.
People's power is always good. OK, but what's next? All these experiences show that after turning down the bad guy the majority of those countries fall into a chaos and it is just a question of "luck" if or not a positive change happens at the end! I am not saying "long life the dictator" but I think you better dont do experiments on people just for the sake of change!
@bebeblabla in facts percents say something else. if you look at 323 different conflicts from 1900 to 2006 you will see that in case of nonviolent uprisings against dictators people who desire change are sucesfull in 53 % cases if they pick the path of nonviolent struggle More than 40 percents of this changes end up in stable democracies (checking period of 5 years after change occurs) - quite a fair chances for positive outcome for those living without basic freedoms, aint it?
Great talk! Although if there's anything I would suggest to him it would be not to turn your back to your audience. Its annoying to your audiences even if we're behind the camera.
is arab spring just another controversy ??..im from india and i feel that freedom has its limits..india has more freedom but its less organised...we dont need cruel dictators..but we need something that people will accept as perfect..democracy is not perfect
@phoenixnigma People in Egypt were (and still are, 'tho to a slightly lesser degree, there is a long way yet to go) being dragged off the street and tortured to death. I don't think "don't torture and kill me" is really necessarily a discussion about the limits of democracy. You don't need a heaven to know you don't wanna be in hell.
@bigmadbad Thats exactly the point: he mentions NONVIOENT struggl as prospective in means of getting to democracy, from Serbia to Tunisia which recently hold its free and fair elections. So different from bombing of Serbia, Iraq or Libya where this violence will produce only more misery. This is clearly pointed out in the book "Whi Civil Resistance Works" by Erica Chenoweth Proving that 42 percent of nonvilent campaigns end in democracies - in contrast to only 4 percent s of violent uprisings!
@bigmadbad when you analyse effects of violent campaigns and nonviolent campaigns it is clear that nonviolent struggle, because it includes variety of people and not only elites is not only twice more likely to suceed but also produces more stable results. read the book mentioned in presentation (Why Civil Resistance Works) it is clear that about 42 percents of nonviolent campaigns end in democracy five years after change of top guys occured - comparing to only 4 percents of violent campaigns.
And I wouldn't like you to think that I'm trying to say that this government is good. In fact, it's very bad. But still, you cannot say that things are worst today than before Otpor's revolution. The achievements are significant and they would be even better if Djindjic had a chance to fulfill at least one full mandate.
@vladasrma E Vlado...Tuzna je Srbija koja ne doceka odbojkase kada god osvoje manje od zlata, zaboravi Anu Ivanovic cim ispadne iz prvih deset, i uvek pljuje po svojim svim uspesnim ljudima, a to nam je nazalost osobina, od Dositeja koga smo proterali kao spijuna, preko VUka Karadzica koga je Knjaz strpao u kucni pritvor do smrti do Djindjica koga su ubili krimosi i policajci. Dogod slavimo tipove poput Apisa i istorijske poraze i bruku bicemo, nazalost, tuzna zemlja, zar ne?
@ribizlla Mislim da je pretenciozno Srdju porediti sa Vukom i Dositejem. Oni su bili reformatori, i samim tim imali su veliki broj protivnika u vlasti. Srdja i ostali clanovi Otpora su placeni da kanalisu nezadovoljstvo omladine. Kada se setim da sam tada mom starijem sinu dao njihov bedz i da mu ga je milicioner na ulici skinuo. Sto se tice sportista oni za zlatne medelje dozivljavaju nesto, sto se moze porediti jedino sa trijumfom. A i on je odobravan imperatorima sam o za velike pobede.
r0kafela, even if the money comes from the Devil itself, so what? And can't you see how banal your comment is? Looking the world with the black/white glasses will take you only to the room already crowded with the other conspiracy theory fanatics.
@chikabuda well this is acctually a comment made from a perspective of a citizen that has experienced what ensued after the instalation of "democracy" in his country 11 years after Otpor supported individuals have taken over the political scene. Our country's economy is in the worst state since the hyperinflation that came as an consequence of the war in the beggining of the 90's. All of our private companies have been sold and abandoned, and people are more unsatisfied than in Slobodans days.
I wonder how soon someone will point out that the Otpor movement which he was a part of received funding by the CIA, and that he is helping CIA sponsored revolutions by teaching the people how to rebel. I'm not saying that some revolutions in the last year shouldn't have happened, i'm just saying that most of them are sponsored by the united states. Oh, guess i'm the first one to point it out.
what is this AA? what if someone breaks ur rules and defends themselves with force - they not allowed to have People Power then? psh
Bizdet 1 day ago
Well spoken.
thank you
Genieinus 3 days ago in playlist Best of TEDxTalks
Pseto masonsko, ponizni sluga americkog nacizma! On prica o demokratiji, koja podmukla ironija!!!
PanicusVulgaris 6 days ago
wow... soo much bull
stash51 2 weeks ago in playlist Best of TEDxTalks
Ђубре издајничко!
This CIA idiot destroyed us!
3SRBIJACCCC 3 weeks ago
Srdja prica o Otporu a ne kaze zbog cega je bio izbacen iz Otpora.... govedo jedno....mlatis pare i prodajes maglu ljudima....
goran2912 4 weeks ago
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TRBtree 1 month ago
What really irks me about this is that it's a lie. The Arab Spring Revolutions were NOT NON-VIOLENT. Not a single one; not Egypt, not Syria, not Tunisia. Video after video shows thousands not only defending themselves, but taking the offensive with urban guerrilla warfare. They fire-bombed police stations around Cairo in order to topple the regime. They used molotovs, rocks, poles...There is no way the Arab Spring would have happened without the violent revolutionaries who died to defend it.
TRBtree 1 month ago
What a great guy
mrzombiepants 2 months ago
Very educational video. Specially when he talked about “Maria Stafford Book about non-violent struggle talks about the statistics In the last 35 years in different social transitions from Dictatorship to Democrasy you will see that out of 67 different cases in 50 of these cases it was a non violent struggle which was the key power” The examples of non violent struggle leaders are Mahtma Ghandi and Marthin Luther King.
YonasChannel 2 months ago
@YonasChannel Hey Yonas, it is a great book analysing more than 300 different conflicts from 1900 - 2006, proving that in fact nonviolent struglle is far more efficient. Names of authors are Maria Stephan and Erica Chenoweth and name of th book is "Why Civil Resistance works".
ribizlla 2 months ago
CIA traitor of Serbia! This guy along with his CIA masters destroyed Serbia by installing puppet regime!
3SRBIJACCCC 2 months ago
TED ES UNO DE MIS FAVORITOS PERO HAY OCASIONES EN QUE NO ENCUENTRO LOS SUBT. EN ESPAÑOL UTILIZO LOS VIDEOS PARA AMPLIAR MIS CLASES YA QUE ME DEDICO A LA EDUCACIÓN ,PODRÍAN AYUDARME .DANDOME ALGÚN CONSEJO TECNICO?
vorp100 2 months ago
@vorp100 El botón cc (Closed Caption) activa los subtitulos en inglés (transcribir audio), y luego le das a traducir subtitulos, no siempre lograrás una buena traducción pero es lo más cercano a lo que necesitas, rápido y sencillo. Lo otro sería descargar el video, elaborar los subtitulos tu, unirlos con algun editor de video y cargarlo a youtube nuevamente.
mensfrigus 2 months ago
People Power is now so wide and indigenous phenomenon that sad all narrative coming mainly from Milosevic days, that`s all abou foreign mercenaries sound soo sad and archaic. Guys, wake up, the whole generation in the world from Noth Africa, through countries like Greece to walstreet but also Russia is soooo fed up by political elite that they stand up for their rights. They dont need NOBODY from outside to tell them how to do it, please dont underestimate those young men and women!
ribizlla 2 months ago
Taking to account real conseqences, which are btw easy to predict, "non violent" sounds overvelmingly hipocritical.
KonstantinGuryanov 2 months ago
7:05 humor as a destructive weapon
mrdotbryce 2 months ago 4
5:13 which makes most street events useless because armed forces can infiltrate the movement and make it go wrong
mrdotbryce 2 months ago
what a stupid talk!
SuperTravisZ 2 months ago
People need to realize that every real revolution is a revolution of culture, the current occupy movements face a paradigm and a value institution more than a group of people or actual institution. Non-violent struggle if properly used will open a way for a new paradigm.
gabssnake 2 months ago
Hay que entender quien está hablando para comprender mejor de qué está hablando
voroperez 2 months ago
People's power is always good. OK, but what's next? All these experiences show that after turning down the bad guy the majority of those countries fall into a chaos and it is just a question of "luck" if or not a positive change happens at the end! I am not saying "long life the dictator" but I think you better dont do experiments on people just for the sake of change!
bebeblabla 2 months ago 2
@bebeblabla in facts percents say something else. if you look at 323 different conflicts from 1900 to 2006 you will see that in case of nonviolent uprisings against dictators people who desire change are sucesfull in 53 % cases if they pick the path of nonviolent struggle More than 40 percents of this changes end up in stable democracies (checking period of 5 years after change occurs) - quite a fair chances for positive outcome for those living without basic freedoms, aint it?
ribizlla 2 months ago
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bebeblabla 2 months ago
Great talk! Although if there's anything I would suggest to him it would be not to turn your back to your audience. Its annoying to your audiences even if we're behind the camera.
sadjesture 2 months ago 2
720p!?!?!?! OMG FINALLY TED ! Thanks !
HappyRogueStatus 2 months ago 2
bravo!!!
svinjaric 2 months ago
You guys going on about CIA are SO missing the point here. Sheesh.
annoloki 3 months ago 16
is arab spring just another controversy ??..im from india and i feel that freedom has its limits..india has more freedom but its less organised...we dont need cruel dictators..but we need something that people will accept as perfect..democracy is not perfect
phoenixnigma 3 months ago
@phoenixnigma People in Egypt were (and still are, 'tho to a slightly lesser degree, there is a long way yet to go) being dragged off the street and tortured to death. I don't think "don't torture and kill me" is really necessarily a discussion about the limits of democracy. You don't need a heaven to know you don't wanna be in hell.
annoloki 3 months ago
I don't understand why he mentions Libya in his talk. The "revolutionaries/rebels" were CIA/MI6 funded and backed groups.
He needs to re-evaluate the meaning of a peoples revolution, as Libya was definitely not one.
bigmadbad 3 months ago
@bigmadbad Thats exactly the point: he mentions NONVIOENT struggl as prospective in means of getting to democracy, from Serbia to Tunisia which recently hold its free and fair elections. So different from bombing of Serbia, Iraq or Libya where this violence will produce only more misery. This is clearly pointed out in the book "Whi Civil Resistance Works" by Erica Chenoweth Proving that 42 percent of nonvilent campaigns end in democracies - in contrast to only 4 percent s of violent uprisings!
ribizlla 2 months ago
@ribizlla
I see your point...so you mean that the Libyan 'revolution' will eventually collapse or fail?
bigmadbad 2 months ago
@bigmadbad when you analyse effects of violent campaigns and nonviolent campaigns it is clear that nonviolent struggle, because it includes variety of people and not only elites is not only twice more likely to suceed but also produces more stable results. read the book mentioned in presentation (Why Civil Resistance Works) it is clear that about 42 percents of nonviolent campaigns end in democracy five years after change of top guys occured - comparing to only 4 percents of violent campaigns.
ribizlla 2 months ago
mere mercenary...e moja Srbijo "pukli smo ko zvecka"
Srb88in 3 months ago
THIS GUY IS CIA
streetteamnfc 3 months ago
And I wouldn't like you to think that I'm trying to say that this government is good. In fact, it's very bad. But still, you cannot say that things are worst today than before Otpor's revolution. The achievements are significant and they would be even better if Djindjic had a chance to fulfill at least one full mandate.
chikabuda 3 months ago
- foreign exchange reserves amounted to only USD 300 million
- 600,000 refugees from the ex Yugoslav Republics and Kosovo
- the internal debts totaled to EUR 15 billion
- almost 70% non-repaired railways, roads, schools, hospitals
- foreign exchange debt to the depositor around 10 billion
chikabuda 3 months ago 6
r0kafela, you were obviously too young to remember, or you lost your memory about the 90s.
Few facts about the condition of Serbian society in the year 2000, before Otpor:
- children's allowances were not paid off for two years
- farmer’s pensions for three years
- compensation for the unemployed for two and half years
- overall debt for the unpaid pensions and other social benefits totaled EUR 230 million
- inflation in 2000 was 113%
- average salary amounted to around EUR 40
chikabuda 3 months ago 2
Tužna je Srbija u kojoj je Srđa najveći mislilac.
vladasrma 3 months ago
@vladasrma E Vlado...Tuzna je Srbija koja ne doceka odbojkase kada god osvoje manje od zlata, zaboravi Anu Ivanovic cim ispadne iz prvih deset, i uvek pljuje po svojim svim uspesnim ljudima, a to nam je nazalost osobina, od Dositeja koga smo proterali kao spijuna, preko VUka Karadzica koga je Knjaz strpao u kucni pritvor do smrti do Djindjica koga su ubili krimosi i policajci. Dogod slavimo tipove poput Apisa i istorijske poraze i bruku bicemo, nazalost, tuzna zemlja, zar ne?
ribizlla 2 months ago
@ribizlla Mislim da je pretenciozno Srdju porediti sa Vukom i Dositejem. Oni su bili reformatori, i samim tim imali su veliki broj protivnika u vlasti. Srdja i ostali clanovi Otpora su placeni da kanalisu nezadovoljstvo omladine. Kada se setim da sam tada mom starijem sinu dao njihov bedz i da mu ga je milicioner na ulici skinuo. Sto se tice sportista oni za zlatne medelje dozivljavaju nesto, sto se moze porediti jedino sa trijumfom. A i on je odobravan imperatorima sam o za velike pobede.
vladasrma 2 months ago
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chikabuda 3 months ago
r0kafela, even if the money comes from the Devil itself, so what? And can't you see how banal your comment is? Looking the world with the black/white glasses will take you only to the room already crowded with the other conspiracy theory fanatics.
chikabuda 3 months ago
@chikabuda well this is acctually a comment made from a perspective of a citizen that has experienced what ensued after the instalation of "democracy" in his country 11 years after Otpor supported individuals have taken over the political scene. Our country's economy is in the worst state since the hyperinflation that came as an consequence of the war in the beggining of the 90's. All of our private companies have been sold and abandoned, and people are more unsatisfied than in Slobodans days.
r0kafela 3 months ago
I wonder how soon someone will point out that the Otpor movement which he was a part of received funding by the CIA, and that he is helping CIA sponsored revolutions by teaching the people how to rebel. I'm not saying that some revolutions in the last year shouldn't have happened, i'm just saying that most of them are sponsored by the united states. Oh, guess i'm the first one to point it out.
r0kafela 3 months ago 3