Our congress did declare war on Japan as everybody knows yet what was odd is that the decision to go to war with Japan was far from unanimous in fact many voted against the war and with a few more votes they might have won
@truvianni - I believe that only one Congress person voted against 'Declaring war on Japan' - all Senators voted in favour of declaring war on Japan - that's pretty close to unanimous - a few votes would have changed nothing - history is what it is! We can learn from it but we can't change it.
@TimpleTapper than you believe wrong or have read different information than I have. I read that the vote was close of course Americans do tend to lie about their own history so it does not surprise that in America the truth was changed like it was in many cases such as the war with Spain and its causes
@TimpleTapper It is very easy to check out votes on any subject that comes before the American Government - the vote in the Senate was 82 in favour - none opposed - in the House of Representatives 388 in favour - one opposed. It is difficult to lie about a public vote -- Americans were very angry about being attacked by Japan - the one person who was opposed to declaring war on Japan was either very courageous or very foolish. it all depends on how you look at it!
If you are interested the one Congress Person who voted against declaring war on Japan was Jannette Rankin - Republican of Montana on December 8,1941.
In '36- the Gov. appeased Hitler & self-disarmed. Churchill said Hitler would attack, and was called a War Monger. Hopeless situation for a disarmed England! Did E. abdicate, fake his roll and position himself to mitigate harsh subjugation of England in future? In ‘40, did his words & dangerous wandering from Paris to Provence to Portugal, offer himself as “bait”, hoping to delay Hitler’s invasion past summer & radar setup? (Hitler did delay.) --Did Edward’s desperate acts save Briton?
Mexico was being weaned by the Nazis, and Wennergren was there on their behalf. Nazi Germany made a WW2 proposal to the Mexican government to return lands from the USA to Mexican control if they should support the Nazi cause during the war, thereby changing loyalties. The Mexican government was considered pro-fascist, sort of like Spain itself, although they were by then independent of Spain.
@72Yonatan The programme says Wennergren had fled Bermuda and had settled in Mexico, because he was on the run from the Allies. Mexico was in the war on the side of the allies.
Yes, formally, Mexico was an Ally, declaring war against the Axis in June 1942, after the USA. In WW2, Mexico sent one small squadron to fight, after a Mexican oil tanker was hit. You forget that there are old wounds here, and that one third of the American west was taken from Mexico, including California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado. German agents- Wennergren-were hoping to take advantage of such resentment; see Zimmerman Telegram Affair.
@72Yonatan Then you are agreeing with me. Wennergren was not in Mexico to seek shelter from the Allies. If he were, he would have returned to Sweden. I have had direct dealings with the company who made this film. They will not let the facts get in the way of sensationalism. So you can forget that the Duke of Windsor was a traitor. If he was working for anyone, he would have been working for the British, which he probably was.
Thank God the King didn't get along with such a treason! George VI even wanted to deprive Edward of the title of duke of Windsor, but the government admonished the King by argueing, that would make the entire issue even more important than it was supposed to be!
A dangerous, vain coward.
Any other traitor would have been shot; this is the danger of hereditary monarchy.
disamjisa 1 month ago
Our congress did declare war on Japan as everybody knows yet what was odd is that the decision to go to war with Japan was far from unanimous in fact many voted against the war and with a few more votes they might have won
truvianni 8 months ago
@truvianni - I believe that only one Congress person voted against 'Declaring war on Japan' - all Senators voted in favour of declaring war on Japan - that's pretty close to unanimous - a few votes would have changed nothing - history is what it is! We can learn from it but we can't change it.
TimpleTapper 6 months ago
@TimpleTapper than you believe wrong or have read different information than I have. I read that the vote was close of course Americans do tend to lie about their own history so it does not surprise that in America the truth was changed like it was in many cases such as the war with Spain and its causes
truvianni 6 months ago
@TimpleTapper It is very easy to check out votes on any subject that comes before the American Government - the vote in the Senate was 82 in favour - none opposed - in the House of Representatives 388 in favour - one opposed. It is difficult to lie about a public vote -- Americans were very angry about being attacked by Japan - the one person who was opposed to declaring war on Japan was either very courageous or very foolish. it all depends on how you look at it!
TheAltaRose 6 months ago
If you are interested the one Congress Person who voted against declaring war on Japan was Jannette Rankin - Republican of Montana on December 8,1941.
TheAltaRose 6 months ago
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In '36- the Gov. appeased Hitler & self-disarmed. Churchill said Hitler would attack, and was called a War Monger. Hopeless situation for a disarmed England! Did E. abdicate, fake his roll and position himself to mitigate harsh subjugation of England in future? In ‘40, did his words & dangerous wandering from Paris to Provence to Portugal, offer himself as “bait”, hoping to delay Hitler’s invasion past summer & radar setup? (Hitler did delay.) --Did Edward’s desperate acts save Briton?
bcpii 10 months ago
Oh christ here come the nutters in their rubber lederhosen and clutching soggy autographed photos of John Tyndall in full SS paraphernalia.
Alimantado91 11 months ago
@JuanMacready It is a decent place to live. Rule, Britannia.
Ezrateach 11 months ago
well it sounds like today hitler did win.the nwo is here.
1Littleagger 1 year ago
What was Axel Wennergren doing in Mexico? Mexico was one of the Allies.
tigranvartanovitch 1 year ago
@tigranvartanovitch
Mexico was being weaned by the Nazis, and Wennergren was there on their behalf. Nazi Germany made a WW2 proposal to the Mexican government to return lands from the USA to Mexican control if they should support the Nazi cause during the war, thereby changing loyalties. The Mexican government was considered pro-fascist, sort of like Spain itself, although they were by then independent of Spain.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan The programme says Wennergren had fled Bermuda and had settled in Mexico, because he was on the run from the Allies. Mexico was in the war on the side of the allies.
tigranvartanovitch 1 year ago
@tigranvartanovitch
Yes, formally, Mexico was an Ally, declaring war against the Axis in June 1942, after the USA. In WW2, Mexico sent one small squadron to fight, after a Mexican oil tanker was hit. You forget that there are old wounds here, and that one third of the American west was taken from Mexico, including California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado. German agents- Wennergren-were hoping to take advantage of such resentment; see Zimmerman Telegram Affair.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan Then you are agreeing with me. Wennergren was not in Mexico to seek shelter from the Allies. If he were, he would have returned to Sweden. I have had direct dealings with the company who made this film. They will not let the facts get in the way of sensationalism. So you can forget that the Duke of Windsor was a traitor. If he was working for anyone, he would have been working for the British, which he probably was.
tigranvartanovitch 1 year ago
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@tigranvartanovitch You are a moron.
kimokaker 1 year ago
Britain certainly had a lucky escape. I shudder to imagine how things would have turned out if he hadn't abdicated.
GusF 2 years ago 26
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maybe if he had remained King Britain would not been a shit hole it is now
TheSSGB 2 years ago
This Wenner Gren was the George Soros of his time. That would make Obama the Duke of Windsor for George Soros.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago
Thank God Edward never remained King! What a bastard.....
DrZenith 3 years ago 36
@DrZenith
Thank God the King didn't get along with such a treason! George VI even wanted to deprive Edward of the title of duke of Windsor, but the government admonished the King by argueing, that would make the entire issue even more important than it was supposed to be!
Rotebuehl1 1 year ago