Um, doesn't this Iranian dude do all this stuff tho? Someone needs to call this dude out. Maybe if a foreign university called out us it would increase our perspective and help us to be informed.
After watching Ferguson's documentary "Inside Job" (about the 2008 financial meltdown) I have ZERO respect for this University. The economic department in particular (Also Harvard by the way) has the most crooked professors who keep this corrupt financial system intact.... educating young people to become crooks like them ...despicable! These institutions are finally investigated, brainwashing machines, that's what they are. All watch this great documentary!!!
I am ashamed. billinger is a disgrace to America and humanity. To dare trying to manipulate what we will hear, is a insult to our intelligence. Another example of how we are deprive of our right to unbiased true information. To see this happening in a U seating, just shows how we are manipulated, deceived by a few power freak, that took over our country's in the 1920s, went they created the federal reserve. Please see " Ahmadinejad reacts to bollinger " better see full speech.
You Bollinger have got some nerve talking about "free speech". You are a member of the academia in America. The universities in America are infested by zionist agent rats who pose as professors and brain-wash the young minds to believe that your kind Mr Bollinger, fascist pig, are saints and victims of "holocaust". Shame on you hypocrite!!
Change must come from within IRAN like it did in 1979 not by WAR and bloodshed courtesy of BUSH the lone RANGER! and not from political defectors that want to take Iran back to SAVAK days. LONG LIVE IRAN...say no to VATAN FOROOSH
Change must come from within IRAN like it did in 1979 not by WAR and bloodshed courtesy of BUSH the lone RANGER! and not from political defectors that want to take Iran back to SAVAK days. LONG LIVE IRAN...say no to VATAN FOROOSH
Our higher academic institutions are now presently infested with the likes of Bollinger !! I suggest to everyone to avoid these disgusting corrupt institutions and seek the truth on their own and come up with their own conclusions. American universities are garbage collectors and producers of brain-less, mind-less robots!!
I am so proud of Lee Bollinger for standing up and speaking the truth to such a despicable individual as this piece of shit from Iran. Iranians are wonderful people who deserve better, deserve freedom, deserve to hear and to be able to speak the truth.
What raunchy American behavior to a visit from Ahmadinejed who has A RIGHT to attend UN.
Almost everything the Jew York Times, MSNBC, Fox, CNN, CBS, etc. are saying about him are based on the same lies.Lies about threatening to "wipe countries off the map", lies about supporting terrorism (for simply speaking out against Israel's american backed terrorism). Lies about an imaginary "nuclear weapons program".Lies about denying the holocaust etc. same thing the same people they did to the Shah.
UHH, what world are you living in? This is not a demented future world or a country with a rigid gov't-controlled press. You can't just MAKE UP lies like that, everything is backed up by tons of information. America has no tolerance for slander. There are videos to PROVE this stuff.
Haha that is the behavior of a "University President" in one of your "best schools"? No wonder you have to grab educated people from all over the world to come work in the U.S. with lies about a "better life". Your own schools are a shit hole run by boorish mafia controlled gangters with the manners of a barn yard animal! :)
Ten questions fron Iranian University Chancellors to Lee Bollinger:
1. Why did the US media put you under so much pressure to prevent Mr. Ahmadinejad from delivering his speech at Columbia University? And why have American TV networks been broadcasting hours of news reports insulting our president while refusing to allow him the opportunity to respond? Is this not against the principle of freedom of speech?
2. Why, in 1953, did the US administration overthrow the Iran's national government under Dr Mohammad Mosaddegh and go on to support the Shah's dictatorship?
3. Why did the US support the blood-thirsty dictator Saddam Hussein during the 1980-88 Iraqi-imposed war on Iran, considering his reckless use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers defending their land and even against his own people?
4. Why is the US putting pressure on the government elected by the majority of Palestinians in Gaza instead of officially recognizing it? And why does it oppose Iran 's proposal to resolve the 60-year-old Palestinian issue through a general referendum?
5. Why has the US military failed to find Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden even with all its advanced equipment? How do you justify the old friendship between the Bush and Bin Laden families and their cooperation on oil deals? How can you justify the Bush administration's efforts to disrupt investigations concerning the September 11 attacks?
6. Why does the US administration support the Mujahedin Khalq Organization (MKO) despite the fact that the group has officially and openly accepted the responsibility for numerous deadly bombings and massacres in Iran and Iraq? Why does the US refuse to allow Iran 's current government to act against the MKO's main base in Iraq?
7. Was the US invasion of Iraq based on international consensus and did international institutions support it? What was the real purpose behind the invasion which has claimed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives? Where are the weapons of mass destruction that the US claimed were being stockpiled in Iraq?
9. Why did the US oppose the plan for a Middle East free of unconventional weapons in the recent session of the International Atomic Energy Agency Board of Governors despite the fact the move won the support of all members other than Israel?
10. Why is the US displeased with Iran's agreement with the IAEA and why does it openly oppose any progress in talks between Iran and the agency to resolve the nuclear issue under international law?
This is Bollinger-"President Musharraf is a leader of global importance and his contribution to Pakistan's economic turnaround and the international fight against terror remain remarkable - it is rare that we have a leader of his stature at campus," said Lee C Bollinger, the President of Columbia University."
Ed Koch wrote, inter alia, in his blog, "Bollinger, a Jew himself, gave Ahmadinejad ammunition to be used among Islamic supporters that the battle at Columbia was primarily a battle between Islam and the Jews, and Ahmadinejad had bravely stood up to the mocking of the Jewish Bollinger. [***] All in all, it was a fiasco for America and a blunder by Bollinger, as well as a coup for Ahmadinejad."—Ed Koch, Koch's Comments: The Columbia lion
This week the President of Columbia University, Lee Bollinger issued a prolonged ad hominem attack on his invited guest, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in what should have been a cordial and academic discussion. Bollinger's personal attack followed an advisory to the students to be polite and respectful to their invited guest. The leaders of the university ought to have followed their own advice to their audience.
"cordial academic discuss." while people are jailed/executed in Iran for questioning their gov? Everything Bollinger said is true, your bias against the Jews and U.S. gov does not allow you to ignore facts. Unchallenged, Ahmadinejad's time at Columbia would be a propaganda opp., he would say anything so idiots like you could further your opinion that U.S. policies are worse than Iranian gov. Try living in one of the repressive Islamic countries for which your ideology directly supports.
Koch noted that Bollinger designed his campaign of vilification around issues of more concern to Jews and Israelis, than to Americans in general. This made it all too obvious that it is primarily Jewry who want to attack Iran, and those who are not stupid will draw that obvious conclusion.
Hey, why don't you go conduct some free speech experiments inside Iran? I would love to see what happened to you then. Whoever ousts the Iranian government with or without military force will be doing the whole world, and also the Iranian people a favor. Its only ignorant ultra liberals like yourself who fail to recognize this. You are so far from the mainstream, thank god people like you have no place in the American government.
In the past, Jews were often excluded from European universities, in part because they had a reputation for being insulting, childish, uncivilized, intolerant, dogmatic, uninsightful, boorish, pushy, aggressive, clannish, corrupt, disloyal to the host nation, and meanspirited.
Bollinger is just afraid that he's going to get whacked from his higher ups, who are in turn afraid of getting whacked form their higher ups and so on and so forth until eventually somebody at the top goes, wow, even I can't debate with Ack ma whats his name...lol. Ahmadinejad for prime minister 08'
No doubt, Ahmadinejad changes his tone drastically in different contexts, but here Bollinger made it incredibly easy for him to out-liberal us--to make it seem like WE are the oppressive and closed-minded ones, while HE is the supporter of open and free discussions. Worse, Ahmadinejad is probably right--at least about us.
Admittedly, there were some good points in that speech. But it was a HUGE mistake for him to take such a impassioned stand of "revulsion," while heaping on confrontational insults.
Comparing this to Ahmadinejad's speech, it's the Americans who seem biased, closed-minded, and uncultured. How the president of a such a good liberal university could buy so wholly and uncritically into Bush's story that this man is our enemy, I don't know.
YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NO PROOF?
In a December 2005 speech, he said,
"They have fabricated a legend under the name 'Massacre of the Jews', and they hold it higher than God himself, religion itself and the prophets themselves...(The West) deals very severely with those who deny this myth but does not do anything to those who deny God, religion, and the prophets."
Haha that is the behavior of a "University President" in one of your "best schools"? No wonder you have to grab educated people from all over the world to come work in the U.S. with lies about a "better life". Your own schools are a shit hole run by boorish mafia controlled gangters with the manners of a barn yard animal! :)
You are an ignorant racist piece of garbage, so much hatred for the U.S. and Jewish people that you rather whine about the Jews and "Neocons" than accepting the fact that if you tried to speak against the Iranian government they would hang your dumbass. Keep hating you obviously are a pathetic fuck.
very well said pedelga2, they hate the U.S. so much that they cannot even admit to themselves the truth in what Lee Bollinger said. They agree with anyone who apposes Bush even if they are clearly far worse than Bush himself. Imagine if Bush said Iran should be wiped off the map, or gave speeches under a banner that said "death to Iran" What a joke most of these people posting here are.
"stephenjackson". You talk way too much for someone who has no clue on this subject and someone who wasn't born yet when your country started murdering millions of Iranians through their arab proxy friend, Sodom Hussain.
Can you give us the source of the information on the "wiping Israel off the map" remark? Also, what is your point about George Bush threatening to wipe Iran off the map? Yes he has been doing that all along, but you somehow mix up Bush with Israel.
Guess not; the crucial difference between Iran on the one hand and Saudi Arabia on the other is that Saudi Arabia does not constitute a threat to Israel. It is overwhelmingly apparent that USA only cares about Israel.....that is !!
Would this AIPAC puppet also dares to attack and publicly humiliate the Royal Saudi family for all their well documented atrocities and human rights violations ?!? All these public executed amputations of delinquents, all these torture dungeons for political opponents.....!! Heck, in Saudi Arabia, women are not even allowed to drive a car !! Does Bollinger care about this discrimination and atrocities ??
I looks like Ahmadinejad wins no matter what he says. Since the Western media has made him into a Satanic figure, what could he possibly say to give people a worse impression? All the bickering about his Columbia University appearance also exposes the contradictions in American society. Bush looks especially weak. He just doesn't have the speaking skills to defend his own house.
No Ahmadinejad cannot sue, but he can sign off to murder someone who speaks the truth about him like Bollinger did in his own country. He just has to wait until he gets back, then he can much more simply murder such a person and take their assets, court is for blind western idealists who think murderers should be treated fairly, like yourself.
i am glad that this happend becuase it opened alot of doors of debate and understanding but it really does show that ahamadinejad truly does not have the strength to stand up and answer the questions. now i understand that all this "interview" was was just a time for people to bag and hammer on the maniacal leader of iran but at the same time it really does show how narrow minded and straitlaced this president really is. so props goes out to bollinger and columbia university.
i may not agree with how iran runs its house.. but my home in the us is pretty messed up.. we are being led to hate and destroy (another) sovereign nation while committing similar acts of political reprisal against our own. i like alot of what ah says.. and still find little truth to the claims ah calls for genocide or nuclear weapons
Already in the fifth century the Armenians had such a high level of civilisation that this era in Armenian history is called "The Golden Century". At the same time, the Azeris were "chobans" (shepherds) in central Asia.Make your own conclusions.
Ahmadinejad inst a dictator , He is a PR man just like Bollinger.Just like the Zionist you are spouting quackery yourself by saying Ahmadinejad is a saint.
America is like Iran its all smoke and mirrors with someone pulling the strings behind the curtain.
I guess when one man has been reduced to a dumb infant by the superior intellect and moral high ground of another, the retarded infant child (khghountch) has to resort to vulgerity and obscenity and name calling.
The president of C.U., a jew, is alleging that Mr. Ahmadinejad is denying the holocaust and he is making a false quote to the effect that the Iranian president wants the zionist state of israel wiped out. Only around 40-50 member states of the UN believe this lie.The biggest denyers of the first holocaust in the world,the Armenian massacres during WW1,by Turkey areISRAEL,USA and UK.
I can see now why your type "khghontch" hate Ahmadinejad so much!!! But I have a suggestion for you, ding bag, next time when you have the urge to listen to Mr Ahmadinejad when he speaks, go and find a nintendo game to play with. the game was designed for retarded wastes of humanity like you!! Leave politics to grown ups>
You Zizazi: You cunt, sorry can´t, spell the word "khghountch" even it is written down and you misspell the word vulgar. Why don´t uou leave the art of commenting to those who can, and instead bark from the top of a high building in Jew York?
Bush haters, if you committed a crime. Who would you rather stand before? Bush or Ahmadinejad?, and don't say Ahmadinejad because you're lying, unless you enjoy getting your head chopped off. and this will always be the difference between America and the middle east.
So you're saying America is a very great country, if you are a criminal and dont want to be punished justly for your crime? Funny, I never thought of that? Good point!!
Ahmaenajad is a discace to humanity. Repression and torture is a part of his society. So what if he is head of state--so was Hitler and Stalin. His government has killed thousands, purely for political disent. Murdered Journalist and subjugated women. For thos that don't know, his government executed gay teenagers, hanged them. Hope he rots in hell with all the other religiously self confirmed.
dear threeProphet your understanding of the Quran and Islam is effected by what you conclude from what you hear, read and watch on the news. The "Muslims" in the region are using Islam as a shield to justify themselves. By now, people should realize that some use religion as their shield. Please do not speak of something you are not knowledgeable of; Islam does not order any Muslim to kill unless attacked. Research Islam, and if you don't have the time to do so then simply don't talk about it.
One famouse message was given many years ago, "United We Stand", and today that message is so important, as freedom around the world is falling fast to fears of terrorists, fears of suicide bombers, and of murders. Today ALL NON-ISLAMIC NATIONS need to ban TOGETHER against ISLAM and MUSLIMS. The quran cannot be changed, or its all lies, just as it is now but even more provable. A changed quran is no religeon of a God, its of a man and therefore all lies. ISLAM must END.
I must first point out, "to Slander"is "to Lie". A Record of FACTS were listed and QUESTIONED, I see NO "Slander" in that.
Its ramadan, you can only eat at night, reminds me in itself of vampires, Islam does suck... I don't care what race you are, if your muslim, I give you a chance to wake up, and thats all.
Discraceful introduction. Despite Ahmenajad's rhetoric, he is a head of state and deserves some respect. Bollinger doesn't just pose the questions, he answers them with Fox News-like Jingoism, ignores American covert undermining in the region and exaggerates Irans threat to the world. This is no way to start a dialog to peace, but more a belligerant predetermined political agenda to demonize Iran - JUST like the run up to the disasterous Iraq war.
Bush and Ahmadinejad are both religious nuts. However, Ahmadinejad is 1000 times worse because he claims homosexuals don't exist in Iran and the Holocaust never happened. Neither Bush nor Olmert ever threatened to wipe Iran off the map. You libs that think Bush and Ahmadinejad are equally evil have had too much Kool-Aid.
Because Bush believes in God and relies on God doesn't make him a "religious nut". Trust me, I'd rather be next to a religious nut when shit hits the fan that someone that has nothing to do with God. Remember, our country was founded on religious values by religious men, who wholly relied on God for everything.
Thomas PaineAge of Reason (1795). One of America's Founding Fathers, Thomas Paine, critiques Christianity and the Bible as a Deist. When Paine wrote, the idea ...
That was really ignorant, How come a president of a big university talks to a guest that way.
its clear that this guy a different agenda than the purpose of this meeting.
Thats good that president ahmadinajad didnt react badly, and he shows them how Iran is tolerant for dialogue. even if the other party is really ignorant, stupid and follow blindly what isreal dictate to them.
Are you freakin serious???? The question should be why would a president of a university like that INVITE a guy like that. Iran is not tolerant of anything...he's a good faker...much like Hitlery..evades questions and plays word games...perhaps you should pay more attention.
the only reason why I like USA is because free speech rights, but when somebody else exersice this right, like President Ahmadinajad to critisize whatever, everybaody hates him and call him either a dictator or terrorist. wake up people you r losing the core value of your country.
The holocost did happen thats true, but what he is saying is why palestinian people should pay for this masacre. why didnt germany give them a piece of land in europe if its so sorry about what happened.
lol, did we wipe the evil racist south africa of the map or rid it of its evil regime. When prominent jews talk of the evil regime of zion as worse than Nazi Germany, then it is just and clear to all that this is what we should do, wipe the evil regime of zion of the map.
then he talks of support of terrorism. This is from a citizen of the greatest terrorist (by all definitions of terrorism)
and this is a citizen of a nation that regularly vetos un resolutions decrying the evil of zion.
jewish stop blocking the guy from freedom of tell the truth and show the people the true face of zionist IAPAC (isreal). and how they torture the pelestian people. and stop showing the American people one side,the holocust so they can feel sorry for you.
whoever marked this as slander obviously does not know that all this about ahmadinejad is true. he is a jackass. [and so is bush.] have u seen his speeches where he talks about his hatred for jews?
Execute people because they are gay is horrible! Iran executes people because of something you cannot change! You are born gay or straight! These executions must stop! Respect everyone! Respect gay people! Equal rights for everyone! Ahmadinejad should be in prison for human rights violations!
Brilliant, the evil israel lovers and their "academic" mouth pieces fell victim to their own demonizing garbage and just assumed the "terrorist" will shoot himself in the foot. They forgot that this is their own propaganda and the man is both intelligent and morally superior.
Morally superior????? Who executes homosexuals, calls for genocide, and funds terrorism around the world? You're right, this "man" is definitely morally superior to a bunch of academics who wouldn't even know HOW to harm a fly.
You are just beyond dumb!!! How can someone respond to an idiot brain-washed hack like you? I am sorry to be living in a world where your kind exists and we have to share the world's resources with ding bags like you.
This is what is known as an ad hominem attack. It is generally employed by people who haven't got a substantive objection to an argument with which they are confronted, and it is a logical fallacy. I'll break it down for you. If morality is a quantifiable quality, and therefore can be predicated of one person in greater quantity than of another person, then it should be demonstrable when one person is morally superior to another person.
Based on his own words/actions/policies, Ah. is not morally superior. See above for specifics. Oh, and it's "ding BATS," not "ding bags." Feel free to summon your outrage and respond coherently, should you feel the need.
"ding bag" is a word I personally have invented to refer to people who are intellectually inferior to an average person. It refers to one such as yourself! Sorry, no offense but you sound like a very ignorant brain-washed person who is trying very very hard to appear "intellectual". Sad!!
Is that really all you've got? No counter argument? No stirring defense of your own (obvious) position that Ah. is morally superior to Bollinger? None of the traditional elements of a real argument? Just insults and pseudo-words and angry little tirades against those who call you on your intellectual dishonesty? Again, feel free to summon your outrage and respond COHERENTLY, should you feel the need.
What is there to respond to? Your question is stupid and retarded. Yes, I believe Mr Ahmadinejed is not only morally superior to the zionist puppet Bollinger, he is also intellectually and spiritually superior to all ZioNazis around the world combined.
You are simply showing your idiotic anti-semitic beliefs. Esp continuing to use the word Zionist--why don't you move your ass over to the Middle East if you think America is such a bunch of "Zionist Puppets". Addtionally, while you are at it, get your beliefs a little further out of the 7th century. Intellectually superior while denying that Homosexuals exist in Iran? Sure, they don't after they've all been EXECUTED!
You can tell Mr Ahmadinejad's moran and intellectual superiority just by listening to the contents of his various speeches on various moral issues facing humanity. All Bollinger did and all he will be known for is trying to belittle and insult this intellectually and morally superior person. But it backfired on him and now he looks like a ridiculous order-taker of NY zionists. Anyone with one ouch of brain can see that.
It's nice to see you hang your hat on something, finally. So you're saying Ah. is morally superior on the basis of the content of his speeches. There's just one problem: while he advocates human rights (see his speech to the UN in 2006), he violates them. (see Amnesty Int'l.) That makes him a hypocrite and a murderer. Not sure I see moral superiority there, unless you think of hypocrisy and murderousness as moral virtues. Do you?
Ahmadinejad is a ruthless, brutal dictator. Any of the basic freedoms that those living in democracies take for granted - speech, religion, press, assembly - are forbidden in Iran.
While we are all free to say whatever we want about our own democratic governments, the statements that Bollinger makes could never be uttered in Iran (well, maybe he could utter them right before he was jailed and then murdered).
If anything, Mr. Bollinger took it too easy and was too polite to this jerk.
how can we say he said "off the map" when he didn't, that he vows to have nuclear weapons when he doesnt.. im just stuck trying to find an alternative to the obvious scapegoating going on to convince the world we need to bomb this sovereign nation
So I guess you wouldn't give any credence to White House spokeswoman Dana Perino's comments today that the administration believes the dispute with Iran can be settled diplomatically? You keep nailing yourself to your own cross and then complaining about being persecuted.
i have tried to find truth to the idea that he has done what the media projects.. please help with sources.. r we the public trusting the same news sources who sold us the indictments against saddam?
Try Amnesty International for starters, which Bollinger himself cites in the speech you've so carefully analyzed. Try the testimony of Iranian dissidents who have fled to Western countries, if AI isn't convincing enough for you. And once you've done that, try reading transcripts of the man's speeches given in his own country, since he obviously talks out of both sides of his mouth. When you've done that, THEN you can claim to have tried to find truth. Not before.
in my research i found many cases where iran commits what outsiders consider heinous crimes against their ppl.. i can understand taking issue with this.. but if their laws are clear on what is unlawful how can we judge - sure its not freedom like the us is supposed to be.. but it is not like china or the old ussr
What utter hypocrisy resides in your statements. If I convinced the US Congress to pass a law saying I could kill you, would you be willing to allow that to happen because "it's the law?" Of course not. And comparing Iran to China or the USSR is like comparing dog crap to cat crap: they both stink.
Shame the Columbia President, he doesn't even know how to show the basic respect for a foreign dignity. No matter what people say, Ahmadinejad is the head of a country, disrespecting him would mean disrespecting the Iranian people. People like the Columbia President must abandon their ignorance and start looking at both sides of a story. Shame!
Well, the American ally, China is as bad as Iran, including the censorship of the internet, and violent military supression of labor organizers. But you do hear anything about that from rich white New York Liberals like this guy? NO--! And why? Because China is a partner in the "New World Order" of global finance capitalism and the ally of Wall Street bankers and the CEO classe. Liberals like this love globalization, outsouring, and the "new" economy that benefits them.
Are you implying that Bush is morally superior to Ahmadinejad? By what measure? Death toll, military aggression to foreign countries, delusional ideology, compulsive lying behavior, disregard for civil liberties, political utilization of religion, support for terrorist organizations... Which is it?
Lee Bollinger for president. "Slander" Hitler Junior? Ahmedinejad is the scum on the bottom of the earth's shoe; Bollinger's only fault is in giving this megalomaniacal murderer a forum that in any way might be seen to legitimize his lies.
Bolinger you are a president of a "university".. you have no right to speak about weapons and bombs.. this is the big problem of the citizen of USA every one only have weapons, war, bombs in their minds and the only that this carry then to any conflicts in the world.
What a great speech, and from a surprising source! What a shame that the idiot who posted this used the word "slander," when in fact the word is "addressed."
In principle, I wouldn't have any problem with this speech other than poor style, but let's take a look at this guy's sources:
- "a number of reports"
- Council on Foreign Relations
- General Patraeus
- French President Sarkozy
As long as he fails to back up his "facts" with credible sources, Bollinger will appear as little more than a mouthpiece for pro-war propaganda. He still makes a few valid points, but the general tone of his remarks is rude and condescending, sometimes childishly so.
His closing comments, in particular, speak volumes of Bollinger's refusal to engage in civil conversation. He puts words in Ahmadinejad mouth, thus closing any possibility of dialogue, and at the same time takes upon himself the representation of what he calls the "modern civilized world". I'm sorry but that's just arrogant and dishonest.
I think Bollinger missed a good opportunity to voice his concerns in a better constructed and more mature manner. What I saw instead undoubtedly qualifies as a slander.
Citizen of USA only knows how to offend, it was a bulgar Populism that was applauded, and these are the little condiments that take a country to a war.
Begin like this, only offends and then is used in mass and then WAAARR...!!
what ARE "all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator"? ahmadinejad is a scholarly and noble president. i wish i could say the same for the president of the u.s.
Um, doesn't this Iranian dude do all this stuff tho? Someone needs to call this dude out. Maybe if a foreign university called out us it would increase our perspective and help us to be informed.
tbarronify 4 months ago
After watching Ferguson's documentary "Inside Job" (about the 2008 financial meltdown) I have ZERO respect for this University. The economic department in particular (Also Harvard by the way) has the most crooked professors who keep this corrupt financial system intact.... educating young people to become crooks like them ...despicable! These institutions are finally investigated, brainwashing machines, that's what they are. All watch this great documentary!!!
josgvis 1 year ago
Years after this event, it is still deeply distressing to see a university, a city and a nation treat a guest with such brutal discourtesy.
The ill manners belong to history now. The self-righteous pomposity is childish: the effort at humiliation unsuccessul.
The U.S. is presently strong. But history teaches the harshest lessons: empires fall. The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.
Did a Jew write that?
He wasn't an alumnus of Columbia University. Who wants to be?
D1lk 2 years ago
I am ashamed. billinger is a disgrace to America and humanity. To dare trying to manipulate what we will hear, is a insult to our intelligence. Another example of how we are deprive of our right to unbiased true information. To see this happening in a U seating, just shows how we are manipulated, deceived by a few power freak, that took over our country's in the 1920s, went they created the federal reserve. Please see " Ahmadinejad reacts to bollinger " better see full speech.
evilmoneysystem 2 years ago
what about whackjob's response?
ndesai256 3 years ago
You Bollinger have got some nerve talking about "free speech". You are a member of the academia in America. The universities in America are infested by zionist agent rats who pose as professors and brain-wash the young minds to believe that your kind Mr Bollinger, fascist pig, are saints and victims of "holocaust". Shame on you hypocrite!!
zizazi10 4 years ago
the guy is a fucking tool. fuck Columbia and its president.
evilknievel20 3 years ago
CHANGE!!!
Change must come from within IRAN like it did in 1979 not by WAR and bloodshed courtesy of BUSH the lone RANGER! and not from political defectors that want to take Iran back to SAVAK days. LONG LIVE IRAN...say no to VATAN FOROOSH
hdti53 4 years ago
I agree!
zizazi10 4 years ago
I saw this comment before, and I copied it, if you like it copy and paste. Lets we all say same thing. LONG LIVE IRAN.
hdti53 4 years ago
No thankyou. I dont copy other posters.
zizazi10 4 years ago
Copy kardan koor koorane khoob nist, vali shoma movfghid. Any way thanks for discussion.
hdti53 4 years ago
NO THEOCRACY NO MONARCHY...POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
Change must come from within IRAN like it did in 1979 not by WAR and bloodshed courtesy of BUSH the lone RANGER! and not from political defectors that want to take Iran back to SAVAK days. LONG LIVE IRAN...say no to VATAN FOROOSH
hdti53 4 years ago
I agree! But people here do not know what VATAN FOROOSH is? It is what is know as a "traiotor" for those who do not understand our language/
zizazi10 4 years ago
Thanks, but VATAN FOROOSH is just talking to Iranian. LONG LIVE IRAN
hdti53 4 years ago
Our higher academic institutions are now presently infested with the likes of Bollinger !! I suggest to everyone to avoid these disgusting corrupt institutions and seek the truth on their own and come up with their own conclusions. American universities are garbage collectors and producers of brain-less, mind-less robots!!
zizazi10 4 years ago
I am so proud of Lee Bollinger for standing up and speaking the truth to such a despicable individual as this piece of shit from Iran. Iranians are wonderful people who deserve better, deserve freedom, deserve to hear and to be able to speak the truth.
westmeadow 4 years ago
What raunchy American behavior to a visit from Ahmadinejed who has A RIGHT to attend UN.
Almost everything the Jew York Times, MSNBC, Fox, CNN, CBS, etc. are saying about him are based on the same lies.Lies about threatening to "wipe countries off the map", lies about supporting terrorism (for simply speaking out against Israel's american backed terrorism). Lies about an imaginary "nuclear weapons program".Lies about denying the holocaust etc. same thing the same people they did to the Shah.
DontBelieveJewsNews 4 years ago
UHH, what world are you living in? This is not a demented future world or a country with a rigid gov't-controlled press. You can't just MAKE UP lies like that, everything is backed up by tons of information. America has no tolerance for slander. There are videos to PROVE this stuff.
billabong1299 4 years ago
Haha that is the behavior of a "University President" in one of your "best schools"? No wonder you have to grab educated people from all over the world to come work in the U.S. with lies about a "better life". Your own schools are a shit hole run by boorish mafia controlled gangters with the manners of a barn yard animal! :)
DontBelieveJewsNews 4 years ago
Ten questions fron Iranian University Chancellors to Lee Bollinger:
1. Why did the US media put you under so much pressure to prevent Mr. Ahmadinejad from delivering his speech at Columbia University? And why have American TV networks been broadcasting hours of news reports insulting our president while refusing to allow him the opportunity to respond? Is this not against the principle of freedom of speech?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
2. Why, in 1953, did the US administration overthrow the Iran's national government under Dr Mohammad Mosaddegh and go on to support the Shah's dictatorship?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
3. Why did the US support the blood-thirsty dictator Saddam Hussein during the 1980-88 Iraqi-imposed war on Iran, considering his reckless use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers defending their land and even against his own people?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
4. Why is the US putting pressure on the government elected by the majority of Palestinians in Gaza instead of officially recognizing it? And why does it oppose Iran 's proposal to resolve the 60-year-old Palestinian issue through a general referendum?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
5. Why has the US military failed to find Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden even with all its advanced equipment? How do you justify the old friendship between the Bush and Bin Laden families and their cooperation on oil deals? How can you justify the Bush administration's efforts to disrupt investigations concerning the September 11 attacks?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
6. Why does the US administration support the Mujahedin Khalq Organization (MKO) despite the fact that the group has officially and openly accepted the responsibility for numerous deadly bombings and massacres in Iran and Iraq? Why does the US refuse to allow Iran 's current government to act against the MKO's main base in Iraq?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
7. Was the US invasion of Iraq based on international consensus and did international institutions support it? What was the real purpose behind the invasion which has claimed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives? Where are the weapons of mass destruction that the US claimed were being stockpiled in Iraq?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
8. Why do America's closest allies in the Middle East come from extremely undemocratic governments with absolutist monarchical regimes?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
9. Why did the US oppose the plan for a Middle East free of unconventional weapons in the recent session of the International Atomic Energy Agency Board of Governors despite the fact the move won the support of all members other than Israel?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
10. Why is the US displeased with Iran's agreement with the IAEA and why does it openly oppose any progress in talks between Iran and the agency to resolve the nuclear issue under international law?
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
This is Bollinger-"President Musharraf is a leader of global importance and his contribution to Pakistan's economic turnaround and the international fight against terror remain remarkable - it is rare that we have a leader of his stature at campus," said Lee C Bollinger, the President of Columbia University."
iggy6 4 years ago
Ed Koch wrote, inter alia, in his blog, "Bollinger, a Jew himself, gave Ahmadinejad ammunition to be used among Islamic supporters that the battle at Columbia was primarily a battle between Islam and the Jews, and Ahmadinejad had bravely stood up to the mocking of the Jewish Bollinger. [***] All in all, it was a fiasco for America and a blunder by Bollinger, as well as a coup for Ahmadinejad."—Ed Koch, Koch's Comments: The Columbia lion
iggy6 4 years ago
This week the President of Columbia University, Lee Bollinger issued a prolonged ad hominem attack on his invited guest, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in what should have been a cordial and academic discussion. Bollinger's personal attack followed an advisory to the students to be polite and respectful to their invited guest. The leaders of the university ought to have followed their own advice to their audience.
iggy6 4 years ago 2
"cordial academic discuss." while people are jailed/executed in Iran for questioning their gov? Everything Bollinger said is true, your bias against the Jews and U.S. gov does not allow you to ignore facts. Unchallenged, Ahmadinejad's time at Columbia would be a propaganda opp., he would say anything so idiots like you could further your opinion that U.S. policies are worse than Iranian gov. Try living in one of the repressive Islamic countries for which your ideology directly supports.
stephenjackson1 4 years ago
Koch noted that Bollinger designed his campaign of vilification around issues of more concern to Jews and Israelis, than to Americans in general. This made it all too obvious that it is primarily Jewry who want to attack Iran, and those who are not stupid will draw that obvious conclusion.
iggy6 4 years ago
Hey, why don't you go conduct some free speech experiments inside Iran? I would love to see what happened to you then. Whoever ousts the Iranian government with or without military force will be doing the whole world, and also the Iranian people a favor. Its only ignorant ultra liberals like yourself who fail to recognize this. You are so far from the mainstream, thank god people like you have no place in the American government.
stephenjackson1 4 years ago
In the past, Jews were often excluded from European universities, in part because they had a reputation for being insulting, childish, uncivilized, intolerant, dogmatic, uninsightful, boorish, pushy, aggressive, clannish, corrupt, disloyal to the host nation, and meanspirited.
iggy6 4 years ago
Bollinger is just afraid that he's going to get whacked from his higher ups, who are in turn afraid of getting whacked form their higher ups and so on and so forth until eventually somebody at the top goes, wow, even I can't debate with Ack ma whats his name...lol. Ahmadinejad for prime minister 08'
spy0108 4 years ago
No doubt, Ahmadinejad changes his tone drastically in different contexts, but here Bollinger made it incredibly easy for him to out-liberal us--to make it seem like WE are the oppressive and closed-minded ones, while HE is the supporter of open and free discussions. Worse, Ahmadinejad is probably right--at least about us.
regalkidney 4 years ago 2
Admittedly, there were some good points in that speech. But it was a HUGE mistake for him to take such a impassioned stand of "revulsion," while heaping on confrontational insults.
Comparing this to Ahmadinejad's speech, it's the Americans who seem biased, closed-minded, and uncultured. How the president of a such a good liberal university could buy so wholly and uncritically into Bush's story that this man is our enemy, I don't know.
regalkidney 4 years ago 2
YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NO PROOF?
In a December 2005 speech, he said,
"They have fabricated a legend under the name 'Massacre of the Jews', and they hold it higher than God himself, religion itself and the prophets themselves...(The West) deals very severely with those who deny this myth but does not do anything to those who deny God, religion, and the prophets."
SO STOP FUCKING SAYING BOLLINGER IS AN ASS.
THAT IS THE MOST IGNORANT THING I'VE EVER HEARD.
billabong1299 4 years ago
Haha that is the behavior of a "University President" in one of your "best schools"? No wonder you have to grab educated people from all over the world to come work in the U.S. with lies about a "better life". Your own schools are a shit hole run by boorish mafia controlled gangters with the manners of a barn yard animal! :)
DontBelieveJewsNews 4 years ago
wtf are u talking about?
wherever you are from must suck a lot more than the US if you are such a racist jackass.
billabong1299 4 years ago
wow so well said billabong1299 I cannot agree more what a racist idiot
stephenjackson1 4 years ago
You are an ignorant racist piece of garbage, so much hatred for the U.S. and Jewish people that you rather whine about the Jews and "Neocons" than accepting the fact that if you tried to speak against the Iranian government they would hang your dumbass. Keep hating you obviously are a pathetic fuck.
stephenjackson1 4 years ago
Bullsiner ia an ASSS
12345678ppp 4 years ago
No, he is not. You who hate this country and refuse to examine the truthfulness of what Lee Bollinger said, are an ass!
pedelga2 4 years ago
very well said pedelga2, they hate the U.S. so much that they cannot even admit to themselves the truth in what Lee Bollinger said. They agree with anyone who apposes Bush even if they are clearly far worse than Bush himself. Imagine if Bush said Iran should be wiped off the map, or gave speeches under a banner that said "death to Iran" What a joke most of these people posting here are.
stephenjackson1 4 years ago
"stephenjackson". You talk way too much for someone who has no clue on this subject and someone who wasn't born yet when your country started murdering millions of Iranians through their arab proxy friend, Sodom Hussain.
Can you give us the source of the information on the "wiping Israel off the map" remark? Also, what is your point about George Bush threatening to wipe Iran off the map? Yes he has been doing that all along, but you somehow mix up Bush with Israel.
DontBelieveJewsNews 4 years ago
Guess not; the crucial difference between Iran on the one hand and Saudi Arabia on the other is that Saudi Arabia does not constitute a threat to Israel. It is overwhelmingly apparent that USA only cares about Israel.....that is !!
kernerschreiber13 4 years ago
Would this AIPAC puppet also dares to attack and publicly humiliate the Royal Saudi family for all their well documented atrocities and human rights violations ?!? All these public executed amputations of delinquents, all these torture dungeons for political opponents.....!! Heck, in Saudi Arabia, women are not even allowed to drive a car !! Does Bollinger care about this discrimination and atrocities ??
kernerschreiber13 4 years ago 4
I looks like Ahmadinejad wins no matter what he says. Since the Western media has made him into a Satanic figure, what could he possibly say to give people a worse impression? All the bickering about his Columbia University appearance also exposes the contradictions in American society. Bush looks especially weak. He just doesn't have the speaking skills to defend his own house.
flexorder 4 years ago
Can Ahmadinejad sue Bollinger for public slander?
fouzoo 4 years ago 2
I hope so!!
zizazi10 4 years ago
No Ahmadinejad cannot sue, but he can sign off to murder someone who speaks the truth about him like Bollinger did in his own country. He just has to wait until he gets back, then he can much more simply murder such a person and take their assets, court is for blind western idealists who think murderers should be treated fairly, like yourself.
stephenjackson1 4 years ago
i am glad that this happend becuase it opened alot of doors of debate and understanding but it really does show that ahamadinejad truly does not have the strength to stand up and answer the questions. now i understand that all this "interview" was was just a time for people to bag and hammer on the maniacal leader of iran but at the same time it really does show how narrow minded and straitlaced this president really is. so props goes out to bollinger and columbia university.
hiimbryan1 4 years ago
i may not agree with how iran runs its house.. but my home in the us is pretty messed up.. we are being led to hate and destroy (another) sovereign nation while committing similar acts of political reprisal against our own. i like alot of what ah says.. and still find little truth to the claims ah calls for genocide or nuclear weapons
fortruth3 4 years ago
Azerbaijan deny that the Armenian civilization even existed much less their holocaust along with Turkey.
Why are we not bombing the Turks? Rather then supplying them with money and weapons?
CatsupIslam 4 years ago
Already in the fifth century the Armenians had such a high level of civilisation that this era in Armenian history is called "The Golden Century". At the same time, the Azeris were "chobans" (shepherds) in central Asia.Make your own conclusions.
khghountch 4 years ago
I believe truth is like buried treasure chest, first you got to dig it out of the dirt and break open the crate.
If you think, The media gives away truth like Faucets give water. Your sadly mistaken people!
The Pen is mightier then a gun.
CatsupIslam 4 years ago
bollinger is son of the bitch bastard zionist too.he was backing by them,it was so obvious.
aryana007 4 years ago
A rhetorical mastermind who can convince his whole country into voting for a someone to oppress them, Ahmadinejad had too good an introduction.
sic semper tyrannis
thus be it to tyrants
beowgrendel 4 years ago
Lee Bollinger must think he is introducing the monkey. Oh! I'm sorry ,I ment Bush:)
ravenflower 4 years ago
Keep the bluntness for the back room , Iran isn't any better then Saud? Why the dramatics?
Could it be OIL?
CatsupIslam 4 years ago
Ahmadinejad should have been given the Gorbachev treatment.
CatsupIslam 4 years ago 2
Ahmadinejad inst a dictator , He is a PR man just like Bollinger.Just like the Zionist you are spouting quackery yourself by saying Ahmadinejad is a saint.
America is like Iran its all smoke and mirrors with someone pulling the strings behind the curtain.
CatsupIslam 4 years ago
I guess when one man has been reduced to a dumb infant by the superior intellect and moral high ground of another, the retarded infant child (khghountch) has to resort to vulgerity and obscenity and name calling.
zizazi10 4 years ago
The president of C.U., a jew, is alleging that Mr. Ahmadinejad is denying the holocaust and he is making a false quote to the effect that the Iranian president wants the zionist state of israel wiped out. Only around 40-50 member states of the UN believe this lie.The biggest denyers of the first holocaust in the world,the Armenian massacres during WW1,by Turkey areISRAEL,USA and UK.
khghountch 4 years ago
I can see now why your type "khghontch" hate Ahmadinejad so much!!! But I have a suggestion for you, ding bag, next time when you have the urge to listen to Mr Ahmadinejad when he speaks, go and find a nintendo game to play with. the game was designed for retarded wastes of humanity like you!! Leave politics to grown ups>
zizazi10 4 years ago
You Zizazi: You cunt, sorry can´t, spell the word "khghountch" even it is written down and you misspell the word vulgar. Why don´t uou leave the art of commenting to those who can, and instead bark from the top of a high building in Jew York?
khghountch 4 years ago
Why all the unsecurity about holocaust ?????? if its so well-documented it doesnt affect what that Ahmadinejad says.....
divanenv 4 years ago
no biggy, FOX NEWS wrote that peice. i guess this is how officals act after they come under pressure. FUCK COLUMBIA
thesomkid 4 years ago
Bush haters, if you committed a crime. Who would you rather stand before? Bush or Ahmadinejad?, and don't say Ahmadinejad because you're lying, unless you enjoy getting your head chopped off. and this will always be the difference between America and the middle east.
Orionsaint 4 years ago
So uh... what crimes would you have to commit to "stand before" Ahmadinejad? he's the president.. you ignorant pig.
amazing how stupid you people can be...
RichieW 4 years ago 3
So you're saying America is a very great country, if you are a criminal and dont want to be punished justly for your crime? Funny, I never thought of that? Good point!!
zizazi10 4 years ago
Ahmaenajad is a discace to humanity. Repression and torture is a part of his society. So what if he is head of state--so was Hitler and Stalin. His government has killed thousands, purely for political disent. Murdered Journalist and subjugated women. For thos that don't know, his government executed gay teenagers, hanged them. Hope he rots in hell with all the other religiously self confirmed.
strangehero 4 years ago
Lets look at FACTS.
The Quran demands, if you dont you die.
The Bible asks, but leaves it up to you, free-will UNALIENABLE.
The quran orders to kill all who are not muslim all jews & all who follow the trinity.
The Bible says to let others know when they go the wrong way, & not to kill them but pray.
The quran spreads fear & violence & hatred.
The bible spreads love & peace.
Which one sounds like its from God & which is from Satan?
theeProphet 4 years ago
dear threeProphet your understanding of the Quran and Islam is effected by what you conclude from what you hear, read and watch on the news. The "Muslims" in the region are using Islam as a shield to justify themselves. By now, people should realize that some use religion as their shield. Please do not speak of something you are not knowledgeable of; Islam does not order any Muslim to kill unless attacked. Research Islam, and if you don't have the time to do so then simply don't talk about it.
amirmashti 4 years ago
One famouse message was given many years ago, "United We Stand", and today that message is so important, as freedom around the world is falling fast to fears of terrorists, fears of suicide bombers, and of murders. Today ALL NON-ISLAMIC NATIONS need to ban TOGETHER against ISLAM and MUSLIMS. The quran cannot be changed, or its all lies, just as it is now but even more provable. A changed quran is no religeon of a God, its of a man and therefore all lies. ISLAM must END.
theeProphet 4 years ago
I must first point out, "to Slander"is "to Lie". A Record of FACTS were listed and QUESTIONED, I see NO "Slander" in that.
Its ramadan, you can only eat at night, reminds me in itself of vampires, Islam does suck... I don't care what race you are, if your muslim, I give you a chance to wake up, and thats all.
theeProphet 4 years ago
Discraceful introduction. Despite Ahmenajad's rhetoric, he is a head of state and deserves some respect. Bollinger doesn't just pose the questions, he answers them with Fox News-like Jingoism, ignores American covert undermining in the region and exaggerates Irans threat to the world. This is no way to start a dialog to peace, but more a belligerant predetermined political agenda to demonize Iran - JUST like the run up to the disasterous Iraq war.
artspex 4 years ago
And they say university liberals are just a bunch of wimps. Even the GOP can't take Ahmadinejad on like this!
Bravo Lee Bollinger!!
YuRePaKUrI 4 years ago
Why would he even invite someone then bash him like that without the chance to defend himself
jfru87 4 years ago 4
how are u going to invite someone to speak and then behave in this manner, bollinger is shameful for that
hkurwa2 4 years ago
There is no need to be polite to Hitlers.
nakedwaterskier 4 years ago
Bush and Ahmadinejad are both religious nuts. However, Ahmadinejad is 1000 times worse because he claims homosexuals don't exist in Iran and the Holocaust never happened. Neither Bush nor Olmert ever threatened to wipe Iran off the map. You libs that think Bush and Ahmadinejad are equally evil have had too much Kool-Aid.
nakedwaterskier 4 years ago
Because Bush believes in God and relies on God doesn't make him a "religious nut". Trust me, I'd rather be next to a religious nut when shit hits the fan that someone that has nothing to do with God. Remember, our country was founded on religious values by religious men, who wholly relied on God for everything.
kraycain 4 years ago
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nakedwaterskier 4 years ago
That was really ignorant, How come a president of a big university talks to a guest that way.
its clear that this guy a different agenda than the purpose of this meeting.
Thats good that president ahmadinajad didnt react badly, and he shows them how Iran is tolerant for dialogue. even if the other party is really ignorant, stupid and follow blindly what isreal dictate to them.
hj1014 4 years ago
Are you freakin serious???? The question should be why would a president of a university like that INVITE a guy like that. Iran is not tolerant of anything...he's a good faker...much like Hitlery..evades questions and plays word games...perhaps you should pay more attention.
kraycain 4 years ago
the only reason why I like USA is because free speech rights, but when somebody else exersice this right, like President Ahmadinajad to critisize whatever, everybaody hates him and call him either a dictator or terrorist. wake up people you r losing the core value of your country.
The holocost did happen thats true, but what he is saying is why palestinian people should pay for this masacre. why didnt germany give them a piece of land in europe if its so sorry about what happened.
hj1014 4 years ago
Maybe because it wasn't prudent to put them next to the people that tried to, um, annihilate them???
jawday12345 4 years ago
well said pg.. in fact, the us is a republic in the hands of a few scaremongers who have fun with our ignorance.. we need an awakening!
fortruth3 4 years ago
Fuck you Bollinger, fascist dog!!!
zizazi10 4 years ago
lol, did we wipe the evil racist south africa of the map or rid it of its evil regime. When prominent jews talk of the evil regime of zion as worse than Nazi Germany, then it is just and clear to all that this is what we should do, wipe the evil regime of zion of the map.
then he talks of support of terrorism. This is from a citizen of the greatest terrorist (by all definitions of terrorism)
and this is a citizen of a nation that regularly vetos un resolutions decrying the evil of zion.
saladin1970 4 years ago
jewish stop blocking the guy from freedom of tell the truth and show the people the true face of zionist IAPAC (isreal). and how they torture the pelestian people. and stop showing the American people one side,the holocust so they can feel sorry for you.
612nonqaxooti 4 years ago
I agree all they can do is play the victim "ohhhh please feel sorry for me"
sciath 4 years ago
whoever marked this as slander obviously does not know that all this about ahmadinejad is true. he is a jackass. [and so is bush.] have u seen his speeches where he talks about his hatred for jews?
BOLLINGER = THE MAN. what a speech.
billabong1299 4 years ago
Ahmadinejad doesn't hate jews..
Bollginer is the one that acted like a jackass, and you're acting like you polish his balls.
kayfsee 4 years ago
Execute people because they are gay is horrible! Iran executes people because of something you cannot change! You are born gay or straight! These executions must stop! Respect everyone! Respect gay people! Equal rights for everyone! Ahmadinejad should be in prison for human rights violations!
Gboyke 4 years ago
Sources?
pmh2k3 4 years ago
Quoting publications from the CFR?
Scary.
presidents04 4 years ago
Brilliant, the evil israel lovers and their "academic" mouth pieces fell victim to their own demonizing garbage and just assumed the "terrorist" will shoot himself in the foot. They forgot that this is their own propaganda and the man is both intelligent and morally superior.
Simba117 4 years ago
Morally superior????? Who executes homosexuals, calls for genocide, and funds terrorism around the world? You're right, this "man" is definitely morally superior to a bunch of academics who wouldn't even know HOW to harm a fly.
jawday12345 4 years ago
You are just beyond dumb!!! How can someone respond to an idiot brain-washed hack like you? I am sorry to be living in a world where your kind exists and we have to share the world's resources with ding bags like you.
zizazi10 4 years ago
This is what is known as an ad hominem attack. It is generally employed by people who haven't got a substantive objection to an argument with which they are confronted, and it is a logical fallacy. I'll break it down for you. If morality is a quantifiable quality, and therefore can be predicated of one person in greater quantity than of another person, then it should be demonstrable when one person is morally superior to another person.
jawday12345 4 years ago
Based on his own words/actions/policies, Ah. is not morally superior. See above for specifics. Oh, and it's "ding BATS," not "ding bags." Feel free to summon your outrage and respond coherently, should you feel the need.
jawday12345 4 years ago
"ding bag" is a word I personally have invented to refer to people who are intellectually inferior to an average person. It refers to one such as yourself! Sorry, no offense but you sound like a very ignorant brain-washed person who is trying very very hard to appear "intellectual". Sad!!
zizazi10 4 years ago
Is that really all you've got? No counter argument? No stirring defense of your own (obvious) position that Ah. is morally superior to Bollinger? None of the traditional elements of a real argument? Just insults and pseudo-words and angry little tirades against those who call you on your intellectual dishonesty? Again, feel free to summon your outrage and respond COHERENTLY, should you feel the need.
jawday12345 4 years ago
What is there to respond to? Your question is stupid and retarded. Yes, I believe Mr Ahmadinejed is not only morally superior to the zionist puppet Bollinger, he is also intellectually and spiritually superior to all ZioNazis around the world combined.
zizazi10 4 years ago
You are simply showing your idiotic anti-semitic beliefs. Esp continuing to use the word Zionist--why don't you move your ass over to the Middle East if you think America is such a bunch of "Zionist Puppets". Addtionally, while you are at it, get your beliefs a little further out of the 7th century. Intellectually superior while denying that Homosexuals exist in Iran? Sure, they don't after they've all been EXECUTED!
cde1968 4 years ago
You can tell Mr Ahmadinejad's moran and intellectual superiority just by listening to the contents of his various speeches on various moral issues facing humanity. All Bollinger did and all he will be known for is trying to belittle and insult this intellectually and morally superior person. But it backfired on him and now he looks like a ridiculous order-taker of NY zionists. Anyone with one ouch of brain can see that.
zizazi10 4 years ago
It's nice to see you hang your hat on something, finally. So you're saying Ah. is morally superior on the basis of the content of his speeches. There's just one problem: while he advocates human rights (see his speech to the UN in 2006), he violates them. (see Amnesty Int'l.) That makes him a hypocrite and a murderer. Not sure I see moral superiority there, unless you think of hypocrisy and murderousness as moral virtues. Do you?
jawday12345 4 years ago
Zizazi10 could stand some English grammar lessons as well if he wants to post on this site. ;-)
cde1968 4 years ago
Ahmadinejad is a ruthless, brutal dictator. Any of the basic freedoms that those living in democracies take for granted - speech, religion, press, assembly - are forbidden in Iran.
While we are all free to say whatever we want about our own democratic governments, the statements that Bollinger makes could never be uttered in Iran (well, maybe he could utter them right before he was jailed and then murdered).
If anything, Mr. Bollinger took it too easy and was too polite to this jerk.
dadinator10 4 years ago
Yes, let's bomb Iran and kill that "ruthless, brutal dictator". Why not? It worked wonders in Iraq.
pmh2k3 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure the previous poster wasn't advocating bombing Iran. Did you read before you replied?
jawday12345 4 years ago
how can we say he said "off the map" when he didn't, that he vows to have nuclear weapons when he doesnt.. im just stuck trying to find an alternative to the obvious scapegoating going on to convince the world we need to bomb this sovereign nation
fortruth3 4 years ago
So I guess you wouldn't give any credence to White House spokeswoman Dana Perino's comments today that the administration believes the dispute with Iran can be settled diplomatically? You keep nailing yourself to your own cross and then complaining about being persecuted.
jawday12345 4 years ago
i have tried to find truth to the idea that he has done what the media projects.. please help with sources.. r we the public trusting the same news sources who sold us the indictments against saddam?
fortruth3 4 years ago
Try Amnesty International for starters, which Bollinger himself cites in the speech you've so carefully analyzed. Try the testimony of Iranian dissidents who have fled to Western countries, if AI isn't convincing enough for you. And once you've done that, try reading transcripts of the man's speeches given in his own country, since he obviously talks out of both sides of his mouth. When you've done that, THEN you can claim to have tried to find truth. Not before.
jawday12345 4 years ago
in my research i found many cases where iran commits what outsiders consider heinous crimes against their ppl.. i can understand taking issue with this.. but if their laws are clear on what is unlawful how can we judge - sure its not freedom like the us is supposed to be.. but it is not like china or the old ussr
fortruth3 4 years ago
What utter hypocrisy resides in your statements. If I convinced the US Congress to pass a law saying I could kill you, would you be willing to allow that to happen because "it's the law?" Of course not. And comparing Iran to China or the USSR is like comparing dog crap to cat crap: they both stink.
jawday12345 4 years ago
Is Lee Bollinger introducing the Iranian president or frying him? He is very rude. I think he sets a wrong foot.
nepsforneps 4 years ago
Shame the Columbia President, he doesn't even know how to show the basic respect for a foreign dignity. No matter what people say, Ahmadinejad is the head of a country, disrespecting him would mean disrespecting the Iranian people. People like the Columbia President must abandon their ignorance and start looking at both sides of a story. Shame!
youfutube 4 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
When you face evil, you do not have to say "look at both sides of the story."
Hitler was evil, there are no two sides to the story.
Ahmadinejad is evil, there are no two sides to the story.
Evil is evil.
Ahmadinejad is a ruthless dictator. If you believe anything else, you are being conned.
dadinator10 4 years ago
Bollinger is talking to Ahmadinejad as if he is in a jail in Guantanamo. Is this the way to talk to a guest?
STOPIsraelSTOPBush 4 years ago
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speyman9 4 years ago
A guest! That's a good joke.
Ahmadinejad is a ruthless, brutal dictator.
When you face evil, you must call it evil.
Mr. Bollinger was much too polite to the monster he was speaking to.
dadinator10 4 years ago
Well, the American ally, China is as bad as Iran, including the censorship of the internet, and violent military supression of labor organizers. But you do hear anything about that from rich white New York Liberals like this guy? NO--! And why? Because China is a partner in the "New World Order" of global finance capitalism and the ally of Wall Street bankers and the CEO classe. Liberals like this love globalization, outsouring, and the "new" economy that benefits them.
hulka99 4 years ago
Exactly, that's American hypocrisy at its best.
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
If Bush did the same as Ahmadinejad, He'd deserve the same treatment at foreign universities.
canorth 4 years ago
no you idiot ahmadinejad is a scum
george bush is ascum and mass murderer
and should be tried for genocide
ardenyervant 4 years ago
Are you implying that Bush is morally superior to Ahmadinejad? By what measure? Death toll, military aggression to foreign countries, delusional ideology, compulsive lying behavior, disregard for civil liberties, political utilization of religion, support for terrorist organizations... Which is it?
pmh2k3 4 years ago
Presiodent lBush leaqds a democracy where ppeole are entitel d to state their own opinions.
i challenge t you to go to Iran an dmake mnegarttive comments., such as you stated, about Ahmadinejad an dsee what happens.
Presidnet Bush and
dadinator10 4 years ago
I think you better calm down. I can almost hear your hyperventilating from here.
pmh2k3 4 years ago
I think he went light on him, giving him plenty of socratic opportunitism.
JJ77TTUU3 4 years ago
Lee Bollinger for president. "Slander" Hitler Junior? Ahmedinejad is the scum on the bottom of the earth's shoe; Bollinger's only fault is in giving this megalomaniacal murderer a forum that in any way might be seen to legitimize his lies.
fanuv24 4 years ago
Bolinger you are a president of a "university".. you have no right to speak about weapons and bombs.. this is the big problem of the citizen of USA every one only have weapons, war, bombs in their minds and the only that this carry then to any conflicts in the world.
Jukefreak639 4 years ago
Ahmadinejad - 0? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!! You sir, Bassman5000t are either a liar or a complete and utter fool.
jones199 4 years ago
I LOVE this forum. It will be very easy to root out the traitors and subversives. Keep it up! :)
sleepyboy99 4 years ago
le dio con un palooo maaal
iarohi 4 years ago
What a wonderful way to show the world how much of a republic we are..... Shame on this man and the media.
Bush and Zionist death count - 1,000,000,000 +
Ahmadinejad - 0
America and Israel- occupies countries
Iran - does not
Bassman5000t 4 years ago
Which part of wiping Israel off the map do libs not understand? Which part of his claim "no Holocaust" don't you understand?
nakedwaterskier 4 years ago
I dont give a damn about holocaust nor do I give a fuck about Israel! Does that answer your inquiry?
zizazi10 4 years ago 3
please post where u heard these words from this man!!??
fortruth3 4 years ago
What a wonderful way to show the world how much of a republic we are..... Shame on this man and the media.
Bush and Zionist death count - 1,000,000,000 +
Ahmadinejad - 0
America and Israel- occupies countries
Iran - does not
Bassman5000t 4 years ago 4
What a great speech, and from a surprising source! What a shame that the idiot who posted this used the word "slander," when in fact the word is "addressed."
sleepyboy99 4 years ago
In principle, I wouldn't have any problem with this speech other than poor style, but let's take a look at this guy's sources:
- "a number of reports"
- Council on Foreign Relations
- General Patraeus
- French President Sarkozy
As long as he fails to back up his "facts" with credible sources, Bollinger will appear as little more than a mouthpiece for pro-war propaganda. He still makes a few valid points, but the general tone of his remarks is rude and condescending, sometimes childishly so.
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
His closing comments, in particular, speak volumes of Bollinger's refusal to engage in civil conversation. He puts words in Ahmadinejad mouth, thus closing any possibility of dialogue, and at the same time takes upon himself the representation of what he calls the "modern civilized world". I'm sorry but that's just arrogant and dishonest.
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
I think Bollinger missed a good opportunity to voice his concerns in a better constructed and more mature manner. What I saw instead undoubtedly qualifies as a slander.
IntegrityCheck 4 years ago
Citizen of USA only knows how to offend, it was a bulgar Populism that was applauded, and these are the little condiments that take a country to a war.
Begin like this, only offends and then is used in mass and then WAAARR...!!
Jukefreak639 4 years ago
bolinger is a tool of the propaganda machine
AnyeongF91 4 years ago 3
What a self righteous host. No wonder the world thinks so poorly of the USA.
smodass 4 years ago 4
what ARE "all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator"? ahmadinejad is a scholarly and noble president. i wish i could say the same for the president of the u.s.
hzuhairy 4 years ago 9
I made an error. 2DenofRainbow needs to go to hell.
sleepyboy99 4 years ago