Batalla de Rorke's Drift

[viper3944]

whats the song called please

[yankmarine]

@viper3944 "Men of Harlech" and "Zulu: Main title"

[carjulua]

esto es una masacre y lo presentan como una gran hazaña, veanse y leanse la verdadera historia de la dominacion y conquista de Africa por Inglaterra puro heroismo barato como el que hicieron en Argentiona en la guera de las malvinas, como no iban a triunfar si tenia superioridad tecnologica y militar y la escondida ayudada de los yanquis.

[carjulua]

esto es una masacre y lo presentan como una gran hazaña

[lulabell73]

Viva Gales....Cymru am Byth

[taffaber]

ddim sharad cymraig?

[hentai500129]

DEBERIAN SUBIR AL CINE LA BATALLA DE CARTAGENA, CUANDO UN VASCO SALVO AL IMPERIO ESPAÑOL...DON BLAS DE LEZO

[ViejoCabo]

@hentai500129 Un vasco... si señor...

[jam1es200]

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN ! long live great britain

[almaroble]

alguien me podria contestar porque tanto amor por su reina de donde viene? en realidad a hecho tanto por ellos? tanto como para dar la vida nisiquiera por un pais sino por una persona?

[jorjex2]

El respeto absoluto a un puñado de soldados británicos que mantuvieron su posición, pero una cantidad igual de respeto a las masas de africanos que se atrevieron a desafiar a un imperio con poco más que lanzas de hierro y escudos de cuero.

[SASNIGHTCRAWLER]

Thats Birmingham on a Saturday night

[jimbo271uk]

The song they sing is "men of Harlech" which is really a Welsh independence song against the English oppressor

[Puzzoozoo]

@jimbo271uk Actually its to do with the defence of Harlech castle during the war of the roses for the English crown.

[jimbo271uk]

@Puzzoozoo thanks for that information

[ViejoCabo]

Rocroi,... la Armada Invencible...ole tu cojones...el revolver vacío en una mano, el sable ensangrentado en la otra, rodeado por los cuerpos de mis amigos y mis enemigos...y abrazado a la bandera de mo Regim iento

[KnightOfChrist1]

love it!

[andelval]

Te has pasado al decir que mataron a miles de zulus,pero no te hubieses equivocado si dijeras que mataron a cientos de zulus.

Una de las mas grndes defensas de la historia.

[yankmarine]

Tienes razón; pero me gusta darle un toque épico, no es una clase de historia, al igual que mi video del 7º de Caballería. Gracias por el comentario.

[Snedger]

Sorry you Taffs. Not a Welsh mob for years to come. These were Warwickshires with a sprinkling of Welshmen and every other bastard from every corner of Britain icluding Cockneys, Jocks and Scousers. Nice bit of singing though.

[homerjaysimpson71]

another thing the white man has to be proud of!! one day im sure black people will contribute to this country, but first they have to get up of there lazy arses and get a job and stop using the racist card................... lol

[scouse180]

i can spell you retared cunt were you from then dick head :) ha

[Snedger]

Sorry Taffs, no soldiers sang Men Of Harlech at Rorkes Drift. Why would they? The 24th Foot was mostly composed of men from the Midlands but did contain some Welsh soldiers. It became the South Wales Borderers some years later.

[scouse180]

y has itailian twat put somethin british up go hang yaself u dirty big nose foreign cunt

[GLyddonable]

Learn to spell you stupid scouser

[hoplite1766]

Great video and song 'men of Harlech' thanks for posting.

[spowperu]

un soldado con un martin henry podía disparar 10 tiros por minuto, 12 si era destacado, con un alcance efectivo de 550 metros y máximo de 1400 metros, disparando contra masas descubiertas avanzando muy juntas se podía hacer una gran carniceria antes de llegar al cuerpo a cuerpo. No digo que no fueran buenos soldados pero 1000 muertos y 2.000 heridos es una cifra bastante mediocre para 2.000 Martin Henry, es como que cada soldado britanico hubiera acertado 1.5 disparos de los 150 que tenia

[yankmarine]

Quiza, la visión de cientos de aguerridos soldados gritando corriendo hacia tí con la intención de despellejarte vivo hace que te tiemble el pulso. Además, en Isandlwana "solo" había 800 casacas rojas(24º reg galés); el resto eran nativos, policía montada u otros ejércitos coloniales, de mucha menor preparación que la mítica infantería británica.

[maggiethefox]

Great stuff Yank Marine. grEat video mate.

[Raspets]

we soldiers rule :))

[yankmarine]

Los Zulues SÍ tenían armas de fuego. Y los ingleses destinados en Rorke's Drift no tenían ametralladoras, tan solo el fusil martini-henry. No así en la batalla de Ulundi. Además, los zules entraron en 6 ocasiones en el campamento, obligando a los casacas rojas a luchar con bayonetas. Deberías informarte antes de realizar tales comentarios.

[adfmaxtango]

perdon pero los zulues no eran expertos tiradores y los fusiles que poseian eran del ejercito britanico vencido en isandlwana.ademas la formacion britanica hace posible el efecto ametrallante en rafaga en tres columnas,aun asi los zulues no tendrian jamas la ventaja y los ingleses se ufanan de su misera victoria ante un enemigo inferior en tactica y armamento,ademas su entrada al campamento se debio por coicidencias tacticas donde los ingleses tenian menos municion y un muro desprotegido

[yankmarine]

Las estrategias zulues son dignas del mejor estratega, como lo eran tambien las de los sioux. Y no gana el ejercito que mejores armas tenga. Mira lo que les pasó a los italianos en Abisinia.

[adfmaxtango]

primero estas hablando de años diferentes y geografias diferentes donde nada tiene que ver una cosa con la otra.

segundo,ud no ha comprendido absolutamente nada sobre estrategia militar donde el terreno es definitoria de un combate y donde la astucia hace mecha en el enemigo,siempre contando con los elementos adecuados,

cuenteme como 4000 hombres en pelotas fueron derrotados por fusiles y

en isanlwana fueron derrotados por dormidos,simple el terreno no ayudo.

simple matematica

[yankmarine]

En insaldwana no eran 4000 sino más de 25.000, contra unos 800 fusileros más unos cuantos centenares de CNN, haciendo un total de 1200 aprox y por sorpresa. La derrota era inevitable. Y deberías saber que los zulues temían mucho más a las ballonetas de los casacas rojas que sus disparos. En cuerpo a cuerpo no se molestaban en protegerse de los disparos, pero sí agarraban la bayoneta (y no el cañon del fusil) porque la tenían miedo. Los red coats eran excelentes soldados.

[adfmaxtango]

si un hombre con lanza y escudo te ataca a ti que portas un fusil martini henri a 100 mts,cuantas veces lo habras matado hasta que llegue a ti.

si tienes 140 hombres contra 25.00 cuantos habran matado hasta que llegue a ti,si cambias la guardia en 4 frentes con obstaculos cuantos matarias antes que llegue a ti.

si reducimos el grupo combatiente mas los heridos,no cambiamos el resultado sino agregamos el numero que daño supones causarias?,has tu propio cronograma y veras los resultados.

[adfmaxtango]

otra cosa nadie discute si eran buenos soldados o no el hecho es que la historia la cuentan los vencedores y los ingleses siempre mintieron con los hechos magnificando la realidad y de eso esta lleno la historia imperial inglesa.

los casacas rojas tubieron mucha suerte,mejores armas y mejores estrategias.

si los zulues hubieran tenido arcos y flechas la cosa seria diferente,pues se tarda el mismo tiempo de recarga y si los zulues eran mas los ingleses hubieran perdido por lejos .

[yankmarine]

Francamente creo que rozas la estupidez.¿Estas insinuando que un arco es más poderoso que un rifle? Además, el martini-henry a poca distancia es poco efectivo ya que su retroceso era muy fuerte y no tenía buena precisión. Quienes acertaban el blanco eran los red coats.Y vaya estrategia la de los ingleses...¡defender el puesto con sacos y cajas! A mi no se si se me hubiera ocurrido al verme rodeado, no te digo...

[adfmaxtango]

no ,lo que estoy insinuando es que el tiempo de recarga del fusil martini henry es igual al de un arco con su flecha y la distancia de un arco es de 100 mts,por lo tanto si los zulues hubieran tenido arcos y hubiesen atacado por la noche y los ingleses no podrian verlos y no sabrian a que dispararle,la defenza se baso en sacos y cajas,obstaculo meritorio al ataque de a pie de los zulues,mientras lo rifles hacian estragos a un blanco en poco movimiento

[adfmaxtango]

ante las armas y elementos de los zulues ,cualquier cosa a la mano era un buen obstaculo de defenza sacos,cajas y carretas todo vale,eso no es estrategia ,es sentido comun la de bloquear al enemigo emergente su paso para un muro lo mas eficaz posible.

en cuanto a mi si rozo la estupidez de discutir contigo una cuestion obvia,tu no sabes absolutamente nada de estrategia y militaria antigua,los ingleses tuvieron suerte de tener un enemigo inferior en todo,eso no es gloria,es suerte

y arrogancia

[yankmarine]

si realmente opinas eso, es que no tienes ni idea del pueblo zulú. Y mira, si te molesta que ganaran los ingleses en rorke's drift pues te aguantas, es problema tuyo. del mismo modo que me aguanto por la derrota española en Rocroi o la Armada Invencible. Sería conveniente que aceptaras la verdad. VENCIERON POR MASACRE TOTAL. ¿Vale? Te guste o no.

[adfmaxtango]

no me molesta que hayan ganado.

lo que dije simplemente que no se le puede dar gloria a los hombres cuyo combate se debio a la superioridad de armamento y tecnicas militares avanzadas de la epoca contra un ejercito numeroso y mal armado con tecnicas de combate casi prehistoricas .

tu glorificas al ejercito ingles cuya historia esta manchada de sangre inocente no eres digno de tu pais

[CoastConFan]

The film Zulu did have a number of inaccuracies, which a little research can uncover. Nonetheless, for the period (1964), it was an excellent film of a vignette of the British Empires Little Wars, although I am sure the Zulus could not have called the Anglo-Zulu war small by any means. This was a nice tribute video, thanks.

[CoastConFan]

The best concise book available I have found on Rorkes drift is a slim volume by Ian Knight, Rorkes 1879 by Osprey Military Campaign Series #41, pub 1996. While not absolutely exhaustive, in only 96 pages it lays out the topography around the stockade using period and recent photography, enabling one to see how formidable the British position was despite being greatly outnumbered. It also presents a scholarly and balanced view of the action, stripped of jingoism or bias.

[talpore]

EXELLENT VID TRIBUTE AS WELL

[Boccherini64]

In fact is was the 24th (The 2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot until 1881 then the name changed to the South Wales Borderers after Rourkes Drift, also if you check the roll call, many of the soldiers were from England as well as Wales. Simply fact sorry!

[madtaff78]

A small force composed around B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot (renamed the South Wales Borderers in 1881) was detailed to garrison the station, requisitioned as a supply depot and hospital under the command of Brevet Major Henry Spalding, 104th Foot, a member of Chelmsford's staff.

[madtaff78]

it was i think the 24th foot based in neath s.wales bloody english typical trying to take credit agreed to officer was an english man but 1 man dont make a fighting force like that.

[Boccherini64]

Actually it wasn't just welsh in the rank and file... Welsh chip on your shoulder. Besides i thought the welsh don't thinkof themselves as British!

[madtaff78]

The Royal Welch Fusiliers were a regiment of the British Army, part of the Prince of Wales' Division. It was founded in 1689 to oppose James II and the imminent war with France. The regiment was numbered as the 23rd Regiment of Foot, though it was one of the first regiments to be granted the honour of a fusilier title and so was known as The Welsh Regiment of Fusiliers from 1702. The "Royal" accolade was earned fighting in the War of the Spanish Succession in 1713.

[TakehikoKun]

yep.. a welsh regiment consisting mostly of Englishmen..

[talpore]

24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot (renamed the South Wales Borderers in 1881) was detailed to garrison the station,Of the soldiers present, 49 were English, 32 Welsh, 16 Irish and 22 others of indeterminate nationality.yep a lot of english

[kramzoo]

What's the matter with the people on here ??? ... Stop your futile & infantile bickering and just enjoy the video. Avete capito ??? Understood ???

Ciao ...... goodbye.

[MarkusBailey1234]

I thnk its all you who need to learn some history. It was the roman empire who came from italy funny enough, who gave us things liuke educaton, roads, the first sanitation system. oh and your modern cannon also known as balistas. so shut the fuck up before you take the piss.

[europeoYsocial]

como se llama el tema de la cinta de ZULU,? es una banda sonora.

[yankmarine]

El tema del principio y el final es el himno del 24ºReg. de Gales, que se titula "Men of Harlech". El tema que se escucha en la aprte media del video es efectivamente el tema principal de la película Zulú

[zahudum]

God another amateur military historian. The regiments zulu uDloko, uThulwana, inDlondo and inDlu-yengwe were engaged at the drift not having seeen any action at Isandlwana which equates to approx 4000 men. Yes 370 BODIES were found around the drift. However bodies continued to be found for months afterwards in the surrounding countryside. Add that to the kill/ wounded ratio in such an engagement and massive wounds from .455 henry slugs leading to infection/death and you triple the body count.

[zahudum]

You really need to do some serious research on this action and apply a little common sense. only 370 killed LOL what ? all the other zulu's who were hit with a 480 grain .455 softnose slug just laughed it off ? and we are talking about a typical 3:1 kill /wound ratio. I could go on for hours tearing your arms and legs off on the subject but it would be pointless ..you can dress a pig up in a suit but it would still grunt. Don't bother replying to me as I don't respond or argue with wannabes.

[Teutgard]

Also, PLEASE, could I know WHO THE F*** ARE YOU TO CALL ME "AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN"?

I know you brits are as FALSE AS JUDAS, when MILITARY HISTORY IS CONCERNED (YEAH, now, tell me that you have "never lost a war", CLOWN), but I think that a bit more LOVE THE TRUTH would not be bad in a nation of DRUNKEN BRAGGARTS.

Goodbye

[tyke45]

this coming from a nation of cowards allways capitulating and surrendering italian tanks no forward gears and your pows did great service on english farms

[Teutgard]

But SHUT UP, LOATHSOME IGNORANT BUFFOON RACIST!

[tyke45]

ooh buffoon racist thats hard prick ure just pissed cos ure country never amounted to anything oh u gave us spaggetti lol

[Teutgard]

Learn some history, kid

When you have nothing TRUE and SERIOUS to oppose, you drunken faggots english start to offend, true?

It's always your preferred tactic, to offend behind a computer

Bye stronzo

[tyke45]

one day on abattlefeild we may meet im not a kiby the way ive served 16 yrs in royal artillry i know my history perhaps a little more than u

[TakehikoKun]

lol. The Germans must have been on drugs to think you guys could stand against us for 5 minutes in North Africa. Doh!!

[bbgrty]

I am Teutgard and I am 'FALSE AS JUDAS'

mwahahahahaaaaaaa.

[Teutgard]

No, I am NOT a brit, so I am NOT FALSE.

Carry on slandering other people and inventing tales,

BUFFOONS!

[TheMonoman14]

@zahudum the round would kill you instantly if it hit the head of body and it would tear and limb off it hit its close in size to a 30.cal bullet

[Teutgard]

Yet, this DOES NOT MEAN that 4,000 Zulus EVER ATTACKED 139 Brits -ENORMOUS INVENTION, created to cover the shame of Isandlwhana.

If REALLY 4,000 ZULUS HAD ATTACKED 139 BRITS, THE 139 BRITS WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL KILLED.

There is NO COMPARISON between Rorke's Drift skirmish and the BATTLE OF CAMARON (1863), where 65 French Foreign Legion fought and resisted against 2,000 Mexican ALL ARMED WITH RIFLES.

[Soldierbritish]

guau menuda pasada

[percydanvers2]

God save the queen indeed!

[brotherdevil]

Vick 2242. i mucked up. i pressed spam rather than flippin reply cus im just in a fidgety mood tonite. i appologise.

im happy to help people as much as. i must admit i love the song men of harlech and have used it on occassion do out sing others or join in. brilliant song. u shud try join a re-enactment group on the zulu war its damned good fun. check out my new video.

[Vick2242]

brotherdevil,

Quite a few of us have mucked up somewhere along the line.

[brotherdevil]

thanks. no worries.

[mush1955]

Well at least Us Welsh and The Zulus have one thing in common......we're both bloody good at harmonising musically !

[morgs456]

lmao excellent

[guderiank]

24th were the Warwickshire Regt...

BUT they were been merged.

So it was intended to change the present regt which was overseas and fill it with welsh as the english midlands were going into the other.

Thus at the time of the battle the Regt was about 20% welsh...

[ngiyaxolisa]

Very well done! Some nice images, many with which I'm familiar, yet some new to me. Were you at a re-enactment?

[Davidnetanya]

God save the Zulu tribe

[yankmarine]

Thanks for your opinion.

[Davidnetanya]

Some people are proud to be racist ...

[Vick2242]

Superb!

[yankmarine]

thanks for your opinion! God Save the Queen

[Vick2242]

I can't stop playing this.  It's brilliant!

[adbopalenus]

God save the Queen.... What are you on!!!!

It's a Welsh regiment!!!!!

[Vick2242]

It certainly is a Welsh regiment but I was born a mixture of Welsh and English. I respect both "Men of Harlech" and the English national anthem equally as both are members of the United Kingdom. Does the UK as a whole mean nothing to you?

[brotherdevil]

it wasnt a welsh regiment at rorkes drift it was the 2nd warrickshire regiment who were i grant you made into the south wales boarderers in 1881. but the battle happened in 1879.

hope the video maker made sure he got copyright permission for this. he certainly used a lot of other peoples material

[Vick2242]

Thanks for the info, brotherdevil. I'm always willing to be corrected if I get something wrong. This was a very interesting reply indeed. Cheers!

[madtaff78]

what a load of crap know the history my butt here guys :)

The Royal Welch Fusiliers were a regiment of the British Army, part of the Prince of Wales' Division. The regiment was numbered as the 23rd Regiment of Foot, though it was one of the first regiments to be granted the honour of a fusilier title and so was known as The Welsh Regiment of Fusiliers from 1702. The "Royal" accolade was earned fighting in the War of the Spanish Succession in 1713.

[talpore]

try googleing Rokes drift facts like this

the most optimistic search of the regimental roll can find only 19 men of B Company, 2/24th, with any sort of Welsh connection - out of a total strength of more than 80. Of course, there were detachments of numerous other units - including Colonial Volunteers - present at the battle, making a total garrison of about 145. So the Welsh contingent comprised no more than 15% of the total.

[adbopalenus]

I thought (from your "yankmarine" name) that you were American. Now I see that you are Spanish. A beautiful country I have visited many times. But please do not confuse my country with the English.

[adbopalenus]

The song is called "Men of Harlech" and has different lyrics relating too many different battles (Mostly with the English) going back to 1408. This battle is the Battle of Rorke's Drift fought between the "South Wales Borderers" and the Zulu's, yet you have the lyrics relating to an earlier battle.

[adbopalenus]

God Save the Queen is the English national anthem. We do not sing it here. We have our own national anthem. It is called "Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau".

In Spanish: Galés de País de Gales

[yankmarine]

Thanks for your information, it's is very interesting.