Its an old Soviet warship that was never completed and was abandoned at the end of the cold war, its obsolete and no threat to current or new Western designs.
Counting Carriers: Russia has 1, China has 1, an old Soviet Carrier. USA has 28, 20 Active 5-6 in ship yards in mothballs and 3-4 being used as museums but could be refurbished. Another, a NEW Supercarrier Class has the keal laid and is being built and 2 more like it planned. The USA has more Aircraft Carriers than the whole world combined. And they are larger by 2X. Monsters with more planes, cruise missiles and air to surface, surface to surface missiles as well as a lot of US Marines.
If China paid licences and copyright fees, the world wouldn't be in the mess it's in now with cheap and very poorly manufactured chinese shit! While I'm at it, give Tibet back you chinese rapists! No human rights whatsoever, yellow slitty eyed bastards!
@NeoTranshuman Don't worry about Saigondj bro! he's the kind of the lowest of the low, he's forgotten it's the chinese who helped driving out the french & american troops from vietnam. they still have grudges towards chinese because they were defeated by chinese army in Cambodia. u still remember the vietnamese were trying to invade cambodia right? i've got cambodians friends, they always remember, they love chinese very much. they told me cambodian people will never forget
Wow that compared to the Abraham Lincoln is about the size of an ant ! It's funny how all american things are huge like the M1A2 Abrams and all the chinese vehicles are small.
@dilegentelectron what you think Red Communist China building up military for humanitarian efforts? just ask China neiboring countries. They are terrified of china
congratulations china it only took you 21 centuries to build one while in the past 200 years the U.S. has built more than 100. In a matter of 16 hours our 13 nuclear powered carriers can be deployed along with another 200 helicopter/escort carriers.
@MarineRaider214 then why u guys couldn't win the war in iraq and aghanistan if u have those toys? why u guys didn't win the war in korea and vietnam? it proves brain is more important than advanced technological weaponry in a warfare...
Chinese ancient saying: One is not gentleman if not pay back to honour giver and one is not human is not revenge to someone done thing bad to you. Another old saying: Take revenge not limit to present, 10 years is not too late. Anyone can do something bad to the Chinese, but they will remember them all.
China is swimming in cash, so we will see them get mightier and mightier while the west fizzles in self-destructing debt and no money to buy or develop new weapons.
hilarious how china got a private company to buy this for commercial use to get around treaties and then took the ship from the bankrupt company to make it a war vessel. Oh well, let them try and use it and find out what a mk48 ADCAP is.
Holy CRAAAAAAAP, i was reading these insane arguments 2 days ago, and10 more pages in 2 days???!!! WTF O.o
Seriously, people get way to sensitive over war and who kills who, and who fuks who, and ya those kinda things. As long as i am making money and living in luxury, i'm ok if their is a nuclear war.
@hyeastun69 on behalf of the Chinese Overseas Community around the world, I just want to say it is not in the our interest to see both of our brothers to involve in another civil war. remember our division between communist and capitalist is actually an european war..it's a proxy war which we were caught in the middle.raised as an overseas Chinese my father always told me choosing between China n taiwan it's like choosing side between my father and my mother..it's simply impossible..
1. China = cheater: joined WTO but does not follow the rules, manipulates currency & subsidizes export companies to keep its products competitive with cheating practices. China doesn't let foreign companies do business unless they use local labor and must partner up with a local or govt. companies. 2. China = Thief: steals US commercial and military secrets, makes fake products. 3. China = robber: steals islands in the South China Sea from Vietnam, the Philippines & Japan.
@sfsd911 what's wrong with the american economy is caused by your own people (american), don't blame other nation for your own extravagant and wasteful behaviour. the fundamental problem of Us economy is you guys living WAY BEYOND YOUR MEAN. it's like u r blaming the ferrari car dealer for making u flat broke because u buy the ferrari from them???????..whose fault is that? did the dealer force u to buy the ferrari? HELL NO
Fuck the chinks. China = pirates of the South China Sea and the Yellow Sea, pirates of technologies. China stole commercial & military technologies from the US, copied everything illegally regardless of patents. 100% of software used in China is pirated. That said a lot about lawless China and how crooked its people are. China is using propagandas to beef up its international status, but everyone knows China ain't shit. 90% of China's economy relies on the US market.
1975-1979, China provided weapons & supported the Khemer Rouge regime to commit a genocide that killed 2 million Cambodians. In Dec 1978 Vietnam went into Cambodia to help stop the killing fields and restore humanity which the Chinese don't have. The Khemer Rouge collapsed. China lost face and sent 200,000 troops to invade Vietnam in 1979, killing thousands of women and children, burning homes, destroying bridges, roads, railroads before withdrawing due to heavy casualties.
Because of the US being a lone superpower, the world has been peaceful. No WW3 yet. But China, not yet a superpower, has already picked separate fights with Russia, Japan, Vietnam, India, Tibet, Uyghurs over lands and seas, ignoring international laws and treaties signed by China. Such a lawless country has no foundation or pillars of a real superpower. Recent economic growth does not make China a superpower since China copies everything illegally. Nobody respects China.
Everyone knows that without the US market, China's economy goes to the shithole. China can never be a superpower when you copy everything illegally from your master. China is a PAPER tiger that will crumble before the real superpower, the US. Everything in China is a copy with poor quality, from fighter jets to naval destroyers to software/hardware to household items. Chinese pilots will die of lead poisoning before their planes can take off. China = cheater. No respect for chink dogs.
Don't worry, their pilots will die of lead poisoning before their planes could take off. Everything Made-In-China is all craps, from tools to fake patented products, fake medicine fake toys, fake iPhones, fake everything. Software in China is 100% pirated. The Chinese gov allows that shit to happen. China is a country of jungle laws with no accountability. That's why China used jungle laws to take what they think belong to them by force: Tibet, Paracel and Spratly Islands from Vietnam.
Do not trust the Chinese. They lie about everything and spread propagandas for their own benefits. They will ruin us economically, then give nuclear warheads to terrorists (North Korea, Iran, African countries) to kill all of us. They resents us for keeping Taiwan apart. They see us as enemy #1, not a business partner. Only stupid Obama and John Boehner sided with China and against American workers by not allowing the Senate-passed "China Currency Manipulation Bill" to vote in the House.
Studies by the Peterson Institute for International Economics say a 20 percent appreciation of China's yuan would reduce the U.S. trade deficit by up to $120 billion and create a half-million U.S. jobs. The more liberal Economic Policy Institute estimates that a 28.5 percent appreciation would create more than 2 million jobs. Obama should not tax us and waste money on failed public projects. Obama needs to get tougher with China by passing the China Currency Manipulation Bill. China=cheater.
@sfsd911 Obama won't get sterner with China. He does not seem to have the spine, although my opinion and view may not be very valid and misinformed due to living in the UK and our media seems to portray him as a strong leader, however my American friends say he is a bad president. I think he will play it safe, especially after China delivering an ultimatum to the US, he knows that China is ready to take action towards the US, unless they are bluffing, hard to tell with Jintao :P
@ShantyManCan Obama is the weakest of any US presidents. I hope Mitt Romney will we this time. Romney is tough and he has promised to take on China seriously. Obama is a wimp who does not want to upset his corporate donors doing business in China, therefore he can't deal with China effectively. Romney on the other hand is very wealthy, he does not need money. Therefore, it's good if we have Romney as president to fix arrogant China.
@sfsd911 It won't solve the problem..if Yuan is raised then all the department stores and shops in US are gonna be filled with another cheap stuff from India and Pakistan...who's the one provoking China to open its door to the world? the US, who's the one told China to open up its market to the world? the US..US did that because US was so confident that they r gonna win the game..well US is greatly mistaken...
@CrazyGuy259 The US told China to open up, join WTO to foster prosperity for the world. But China does not play the game fair and square. After all, China is: Communists in theory to control its people, stripping them of basic rights and liberty. Capitalists in reality, making money using cheating practices (steals technologies, make fake products, manipulates currency, subsidizes exports). The US Agency for International Development helps poor countries progress, what has China done?
@sfsd911 it's good if u know China is actually a capitalist. stripping the chinese people from their basic right? do u know each year 30 million chinese go overseas.and the strange thing is they all come back to China, if u say they don't have freedom why they come back to China? foster prosperity to the world? u tell that to your mexican neighbour face, don't just preach other nations to do the things that your own country and govt can't even do it
@sfsd911 share prosperity? the Mexican will laugh their heads off. what have your govt done to share the prosperity to your Mexican neighbour? stole california from the Mexican is that what you mean? is your govt sharing the prosperity in Iraq, aghanistan? US agency for internaional developments helps poor country? yeah right with string attached...tell that to all the countries in south america and Africa.
@sfsd911 Now China has open Up u guys still unhappy..it's because China's winning..I guess u guys better create your own rules and play it by yourself u can't see other nations winning..btw what China's doing is exactly what the Japan's doing. Japan was the copy cat master..but look what they've achieved..so u can project China's capability in 20 years from now...don't just trust anything your govt and media throw at you without u do your own investigation 1st
@sfsd911 Read foreign newspaper as well if u can, don't just read anything from you own country.u still remember the reason US invaded Iraq right? it's believed Iraq had WMD.well guess what? after Lynching Saddam, the WMD was never found, it's a massive fabrication made by your goverment as an excuse to go to Iraq to secure the supply of Oil for your country..was US media responsible in a way.I guess yes for being dishonest about the report on WMD in Irag n stirring public opinion in US
frankly, it doesnt matter that china has procured yet another rusty hulk from Russia. lets compare: we have eleven currently serving aircraft carriers, all of which are nuclear powered. china has this one ex-soviet carrier which is powered by gas boilers. we win.
@l337phyl your currently so called 11 serving aircraft carriers whether u like it or not were made of Chinese money since your US govt owes billions of dollars to Chinese Govt. I highly doubt it if the Chinese govt would accept those rusty 11 carriers to offset US debts to China
@CrazyGuy259 You dumbass. $1.4 trillion is very little (compared to our annual budget) to worry about because the Pentagon annual budget is already $684 million. We don't owe the Chinese like a loan or something, they bought our junk bonds just like many others. The reason China has not dumped these junk bonds is because they have little or no effects on US economy. Stop spreading propaganda for the Chinese govt. China just wants attention to increase its influence on international stage.
@kryptonian55 Taiwan has a pretty small army, they have less than 300 Helicopters but they do have 1000+ Tanks,Armored Vechiles, Humvees. I think if Taiwan was invaded, Japan & US would automatically come to help, then maybe S.Korea would come tag along
@kryptonian55 no, then that would throw the UN into turmoil, it would probably start huge regional arms race, expanding to some parts of the M.E in fact, and really, who wins in a nuclear war? "The only way to win a Cold War is not to play!"
About time they made 1... oh wait, it's actually a Soviet carrier.
I honestly think China outsources their military creations to Russia. They're too busy making cheap consumer toys.. While the big boys like the U.S and Russia actually know what the fuck they're doing =)
@TBird4490 ever heard China sold rockets to Nigeria and launch it for them for their satellite communication?....your apple computer and ipod are manufactured in China..don't forget that..:)
@CrazyGuy259 Yeah but here's the thing about that...
We invented these technologies.. YEARS ago. China is not innovative by any means. They're a production country.. not an inventive one. They look at products other countries make, and then make cheap imitations of them. A few years back they got in trouble with Russia for making an identical jet.. Look it up.
Don't forget that for now, China is a production giant, they are not an inventive giant. ;)
@TBird4490 hahhahah mate You have to study the history of japan as well. what the Chinese is doing is exactly what the Japanese was doing..Japan was a copy cat master when they started modernizing their military and country. Look at what they have achieved now. at certain point China will break away from that pattern and go down their own innovation path. trust me on this...they r making up for the lost time for skipping the industrial revolution and modernisation.
@TBird4490 cont...if u want to be fair comparing chinese civilization vs western civilization, u should compare it between two of them before the west embarked on the industrial revolution. the Chinese invented compass, umbrella, powder gun, kite, printing technique, silk, tea and so many other inventions..seriously mate..just dig deeper and study more the ancient chinese civilization, I reckon you would be impressed...
@TBird4490 history is the mirror to the future...that's why we study history:) from the year 1 to the year 1840 the two largest economy was constantly China and India. just for the last 200 years the west surpassed those 2 giants with the help of industrial revolution. the Chinese r very much aware of their own history, on the other hand US look at it as an irreversible course of history if the peak of one particular civilization had passed
@TBird4490 cont...it will never be able to rebounce back, and they are greatly mistaken. US has 300 years of history, China has 5000 years of history. US hasn't stood the test of time yet as an empire. China has endured the ups and down within that 5000 years.
@CrazyGuy259 Which looks better? The inventions that I listed? Or gun powder and umbrellas... Just saying.
I have no doubt the Chinese are an impressive people that can achieve great things. I'm simply stating they are not that innovative and are not technologically on the same level as the U.S. at the MOMENT.
@TBird4490 did it ever cross your mind what's happening with west at the time China could come up with so many inventions in the ancient time? when the innauguration of Beijing as the new capital of China, Beijing was guarded with 1 millions Chinese soldiers wearing the most elegant silk fabric for their uniform, many historians comparing the exact date of that even happening in the west, a week after that,
@TBird4490 cont...in the west king Henry was sworn as the king of England guarded by just 100 soldiers wearing uniform from potato sack type of fabric. yes the US is innovative at the moment but the question is how long will it last? considering the have massive debts to pay, some economists even say it will take couple of generations to pay off US debt to China. with no money how a nation will fund their Research and Development process to create new innovative products?
@TBird4490 yeah those listed inventions are cool toys I must admit but what's the use? US troops couldn't win the war in Irag and Afghanistan after 10 years battle with those cool toys against bunch of people wearing sandals? it's not the weapon, its the strategy that matters.if US troops learned their own history in north korea and Vietnam, they wouldn't be so arrogant and careless in waging the war in the middle east. US is not aware of her own history
@CrazyGuy259 What's the use? The Internet? Super and hypersonic aircraft? Are you serious? Alternating current and transistors. What use of these? You're kidding me right? Programming languages, computers. Use of these?
Intentions that have furthered humanity as a whole. That's the use of these. Computers and the Internet, by far among the most important inventions this planet ever saw.
@TBird4490 it's good if those r used to advance humanity,but technology can destroy human kind as well such as nuclear bombs..don't forget that...internet could be abused by irresponsible people to prey on minors etc2. when all those industrialists invented stuff did they even consider or factored in the enviromental implications that the world has to bear? can u guarantee all those technologies won't be used by irresponsible govt to invade or attack other nations?
@CrazyGuy259 ...But we did win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As unpopular and unfavorable these wars are, we accomplished what we set out to do. Why do you say we lost the war? In what way did we lose? I would love to hear your arguments. We overthrew a tyrannical regime in Iraq and we're still fighting terrorists (and winning) there.
Al Quida no longer plays a role in Afghanistan.. what is left of them is hiding in Pakistan. The cowards..
@TBird4490 read more article about US war in middle east, I can't believe how naive u guys, u still remember right why US went to Iraq? it's suspected Iraq had WMD..well guess what? after lynching Saddam Hussein that WMDs were never found in Iraq. the evidence of WMD was a massive US fabrication to invade Iraq to secure the supply of the OIL. just type the words US failure in Iraq and Afghanistan..u will find lots of evidences..even the whole world know US failed in Iraq and Afghan
@CrazyGuy259 And as for the war in Vietnam, please don't forget we were actually winning the war. The ONLY reason we left was because videos and images of the war were leaked, and it became incredibly popular home in the U.S.
It's a fact we were winning, look online anywhere and read an article, it isn't really a secret to be honest. We only lost because the war became unpopular and we left. Fact.
@TBird4490 judging by your comments definitely either the history lesson has been twisted by your government or u guys too lazy to study the history. its everywhere mate..with the massive title US lost the vietnam war....again do some more reading..u will find the truth....why u r still in denial of this facts...don't forget do some more digging about korean war as well as your homework where US troops got decimated :)
@CrazyGuy259 Tax 100% all goods coming from China one year and our debt is erased. China is paying almost no tax for its exports to the US, but China is taxing heavily US exports to China. For example, luxury cars from the US are taxed 200%. Not to mention that US exports to China is so small compared to China’s exports to the US. 90% of China’s trade surplus is with the US. Taxing Chinese goods saves American jobs from outsourcing due to China's cheap-ass laborers and currency manipulation.
@sfsd911 u forget who was the promoter of globalisation..US ! when US promoted globalisation they were so confident they could win the game. When china applied closed door policy u guys criticised China just like u guys critizing north korea, when China already opened their door and winning the game...u guys r still complaining....whatever the Chinese does won't make u guys happy..
@CrazyGuy259 For every 5 Northern Vietnamese soldiers killed, 1 American was killed. Sounds like a winning war to me. if you knew anything at all, you would know we left because it was an unpopular war, and these things called hte PENTAGON PAPERS. Why don't you look up The New York Timjes vs. The United States. lol... I know my history, I did a research paper on the subject kid.
@TBird4490 You didnt research it enough then did you? America lost the Vietnam war, purpose of US involvement was to stop communist expansion, they failed at that. The amount of casualties has nothing to do with the outcome, the outcome is dependant on the objectives of either side. America failed and North Vietnam succeeded in making all Vietnam communist. Hence, America 0% succession in their goal, N Vietnam 100% succession....North Vietnam won the war.
@snico They didn't stop it because they left. That's why. It wasn't "they failed, so they decided to leave". It was they left, and therefore they lost. It's absolutely imperative you understand this detail before trying to educate others on this matter.
Nobody is disputing that North Vietnam won the war. But it's factual that we lost Vietnam because:
Documents were leaked (Pentagon Papers. New York Times v. United States (1971))
@CrazyGuy259 But you're talking about the Vietnam war regarding the U.S. You never said anything about coalition. You were specifically talking about the U.S.
It is statistically factual the U.S. didn't lose ANYWHERE NEAR the amount that Vietnam lost.
@TBird4490 just compare your stats and my stats...if u say your sources is reliable then I can say my sources is reliable as well..if u r bright enough u should investigate and approach our debate from two sides of the perspectives...look I'm no pro China and I'm no pro US as well, but just trying to give a more balanced view. if u r bright enough why it didn't cross your mind those 10 plus US led coalition forces with US technological supremacy against 2 nations with backward...
@CrazyGuy259 No offense. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore. You're lying and clearly everybody knows it. Everybody thinks so. All they have to do is type it into google and read about it anywhere =)
It's dangerous to be ignorant and then trying to educate people. Once again I ask that you refrain from this behavior in the future.
@TBird4490 cont...weaponry couldn't take down the whole korea? why the coalition couldn't win the war? if u say US won the war in vietnam why vietnam is still a commy state up until now?..
@TBird4490 Dear TBird. Debating is quite cool at times and by no means am I trying to offend you. However, I must defend my fellow peer on this. I admit, China under late Qing was corrupt and under Mao, it was mis-directed, but we were VERY inventive throughout history. We are not the type of ethnicity that likes to stick a flag on something and say, "Yeah! Fuckers! We did this!" Compass, computing machines, gun powder, irrigation canal systems, etc were all Chinese & improvised by Westerners.
@TBird4490 For all the haters that think China really want the world? Really? You keep on raising up knowledge and history, and since I know literally everything about the US, here is one for you. 500 to 600 years ago, admiral named Zheng He who sailed most of the South China sea lanes as well as ones to Africa to intimidate pirating nations, but also to cement themselves as a trade giant. If we wanted the 25 nations which currently dwell around that region, we would have done it. It is not us.
@thetrialshot it reminds me of Japan when they started modernising their military, Japan was a master of copy cat, but look what they have achieved now ?.....China took over japan as the 2nd largest economy in the world last year..and..not far away from the US now...from the Japanese case you can project Chinese capability for the next 50 years...
This is good but also its likely this Aircraft Carrier is going to have some flaws and some lack of certain components...but still chinas doing this for the first time ,so lets wait and see how their aircraft carrier turns out
Ha ha ha it looks like a skate board ramp. Can I bring my skate board and give it a try.....another floating coffin that china is making LOL why? China cant make an Aircraft catapult. they haven't stolen the technology yet ha ha ha ha
no catapults? this means that the planes take up pretty much all of what little flight deck this hunk of shit has to take off. including the fact that the ship has no aircraft elevators, i conclude that the carrier can hold 15 aircraft at MOST, not including awacs or asw planes. this also means the planes will have to carry limited weaponry, in order to be light enough to get off. lastly, the planes would most likely need canards, destroying performance of aircraft at high speed. 再见, bitch ship.
i don't know what the hype is over this aircraft carrier, in fact there should be next to little or none! for 1 chinese aircraft carrier against 10+ USN carriers, china should be running scared, and there not even nuclear powered!
@j0noStrIk3r China doesn't need too sophisticated weaponry to kick US ass, since US couldn't win the war in Iraq and Afghan after 10 years long war against bunch of people wearing sandals. it's proven already in North Korea and Vietnam war, US' ass got kicked so hard...learn the history who was running scared?
@CrazyGuy259 your fighting cowards who are the best at hide & seek, no wonder why it has taken so long, but we got there! and korean war hasn't finished so don't talk like it has, and the vietnam war; the US and it's allies completely decimated the Northern Vietnamese and Viet Cong, we lost politically, not physically! and btw read about the Battle of Long Tan, even their general at the time said they would never test the Australians ever again!
@j0noStrIk3r u r just another delusional dude...read further article about US lost the vietnam war...why US hesitating to take down north korea now? what's holding US back? oh I see they r afraid of the Chinese army which decimated the US 8th regiment in North Korea in 1950...
@CrazyGuy259 The US owes China $1.4 trillion. So what? That's a little more than 2 times the Pentagon's $684 billion annual budget. Tax Chinese exports for one year and we don’t owe them anything. We just raise tariffs on goods coming from China, making them more expensive to compete with American goods, thus keep American jobs from outsourcing. China is not a free trade country. You are not allowed to do business freely in China. Boycott Chinese goods if you want jobs. Fuck China.
@sfsd911 Who was the promoter of Globalisation in the first place..guess what? the US, who insinuated China to open up their econommy ? guess what its US again...when china applied closed door policy..u guys criticise China, when China already opened up their door to the world..u guys still criticising China...China just beat US in US'own game....when US told China to open up their economy, US was so confident that US could win the game...well u r greatly mistaken guys....
@CrazyGuy259 There is no game. in 1970, US simply just wanted China away from Russia to de-escalate the cold war. US helped China because it hoped that a wealthy China would less likely to go to war. The US was already a superpower while China was still dirt poor in the 70's, 80's, even 90's. The US didn't need China back then, it simply wanted to prevent China from forming an alliance with Russia by helping China to improve its economy in hope that China will forget about going to war.
@CrazyGuy259 Like.. it's so funny how ignorant you are. You've never even heard of New York Times v. United States, and then you try to say we lost in Vietnam because we were getting our ass kicked? Like.. do you actually look up statistics before you spew your opinionated assertions? It's hard to even debate with somebody who is so ignorant and brainwashed.
@CrazyGuy259 No offense. I can't take you seriously anymore. I have presented you with factual statistical data and you say "read further". You present opinionated assertions as factual evidence, and in a debate, that is something nobody takes seriously. Please take this moment to reflect on my initial statement that you continue to demonstrate your inability to read and properly interpret text.
Furthermore I encourage you to become knowledgable on a subject before you "teach" it.
@TBird4490 u only read the subject u want to read by ignoring other factuals...do u thing US brave enough to go to north korea by themselves without the support of coalition...look at the stats..2 countries (China and North Korea) against more than 10 nations at the same time...yet the US led coalition troops couldnt take the whole korea...it's embarrassing...seriously....US did the same mistake in Iraq and afghan...
@CrazyGuy259 what article, do you seriously expect me to google it, yeah what a greatname; CrazyGuy, yeah I'm totally gonna trust you! and they are only hesistant because NK could be potienally nuclear armed, or they might call on China which would start a third world war, be logical here, not dumbass!
What is the purpose of china building aircraft carriers? for Defense or intimidation? I think this is an act of aggression to its neighboring country's.
@Sparty1234561 ever heard of opium war? when the brits came to China and forced the Chinese govt to legalize opium and the chinese govt refused to do so because they knew the brits were trying to make the whole China addicted to opium and collapse. upon the refusal, the brits bombarded China and hongkong was ceded to the brits for 100 years....Macau to the portuguese....so on and so forth..do u think it's for offensive or defensive the carrier's built?
What a very interesting design...do you know any of the specifics about this plane? I'm an aircraft carrier enthusiast. How many planes can it hold? Is it nimitz class? What type of launching system is it going to use, the standard steam catapult? It's very cool indeed.
@dolfanlinda It was made in Ukraine during the soviet era. It looks very much like an Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier. You may find the specifics searching for that. Yet, the Chinese military is updating it so we probably won't know anything for sure.
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who cares if the US is in debt. i guarantee you we have the most weapons on earth not to mention the most nukes by far. so you if wanna talk shit, get hit and get blown to pieces.
@Stearnsy17 Hi there. Who were you referring to? This is just a simple vid about someone who was excited that China has their first carrier rebuilt with French modern designs. Research some, technically, Russia still has more nukes than the US despite losing 47.6% of it to other "new" nations like Ukraine, etc. Also, Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty signed by 150+ countries forbids nukes. Lastly, during the Col War with all them crazies, no one pressed the button. So relax, no wars just pride.
@CrazyGuy259 Dear Youtuber. I do not think it is that easy. I do believe any NWS-5 total-who wants to leave needs to be voted out like certain UN resolutions and it has to be a majority. I can't say for sure, but I do believe I read it somewhere. So China and Russia can refuse, but Britain and France can certainly assist the US in that matter. A new NWS of course will be voted in and India is a top candidate. I doubt the US would allow that. Thanks for introducing this new research topic.
@Stearnsy17 Russia has the most nukes, by a long long shot, also the most powerful; Russia also has the most armoured vehicles by a long shot. But US has largest navy and air force.
Russia has the most nukes, by a long long shot, also the most powerful; Russia also has the most armoured vehicles by a long shot. But US has largest navy and air force.------and what is most important these days? = navy and air force
you still have 10 more to go before you can even tie the US lmao
2WorldWar2 1 week ago
at first glance i thought it was a junk barge
FantomOmega 2 weeks ago
Its a training carrier I bet.
Thier crews need XP before they start rolling out newer versions.
ilkhanX 1 month ago
Navyfield Online music.
fredmagal 1 month ago
LOL what a piece of garbage, scrap metal
800cody 1 month ago
@800cody MADE IN CHINA DEFINITION! :D
dogfight001 1 month ago
Its an old Soviet warship that was never completed and was abandoned at the end of the cold war, its obsolete and no threat to current or new Western designs.
TheCharlie359 1 month ago
@TheCharlie359 what is a threat is chinas man power
diveplane 1 month ago
@diveplane, Not with todays technology, manpowers irrelevant!
TheCharlie359 1 month ago
@TheCharlie359 lol im sure thats what germany said about russia in ww2
93razzmatazz 1 month ago
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Counting Carriers: Russia has 1, China has 1, an old Soviet Carrier. USA has 28, 20 Active 5-6 in ship yards in mothballs and 3-4 being used as museums but could be refurbished. Another, a NEW Supercarrier Class has the keal laid and is being built and 2 more like it planned. The USA has more Aircraft Carriers than the whole world combined. And they are larger by 2X. Monsters with more planes, cruise missiles and air to surface, surface to surface missiles as well as a lot of US Marines.
rattlesnakemilitia 1 month ago
if its chineses y have they got russian sounding musik over this video? plus it just doesnt look anything like as pretty as our ones
21supersandra 1 month ago
If China paid licences and copyright fees, the world wouldn't be in the mess it's in now with cheap and very poorly manufactured chinese shit! While I'm at it, give Tibet back you chinese rapists! No human rights whatsoever, yellow slitty eyed bastards!
Cyberwwwizard 1 month ago
@Cyberwwwizard u mad?
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters - how did you know?
Cyberwwwizard 1 month ago
@Cyberwwwizard i dunno, must be a gift ;)
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
Fuck China !
Cyberwwwizard 1 month ago
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@NeoTranshuman Don't worry about Saigondj bro! he's the kind of the lowest of the low, he's forgotten it's the chinese who helped driving out the french & american troops from vietnam. they still have grudges towards chinese because they were defeated by chinese army in Cambodia. u still remember the vietnamese were trying to invade cambodia right? i've got cambodians friends, they always remember, they love chinese very much. they told me cambodian people will never forget
CrazyGuy259 1 month ago
@NeoTranshuman go back to your thirdworld shitland China then see if you will last
saigondj 2 months ago
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CrazyGuy259 1 month ago
Wow that compared to the Abraham Lincoln is about the size of an ant ! It's funny how all american things are huge like the M1A2 Abrams and all the chinese vehicles are small.
TheHtjohn 2 months ago
@TheHtjohn Have u ever compared Columbus' junk ship with The chinese Admiral Cheng Ho's junk ship in the 1420s? study the history!!!
CrazyGuy259 1 month ago
NO airplanes on board. What chinese plan to attack USA with flying chopsticks?
saigondj 2 months ago
@saigondj four words"pay back my money"
LQSW1 2 months ago
@LQSW1 18 words "why you keep lending me money if you think we dont care and will not pay you back? you're so screwed"
saigondj 2 months ago
@saigondj Why do you think China would attack the US? Is that what your media have been feeding you?
dilegentelectron 2 months ago
@dilegentelectron no it's more like USA will attack China
saigondj 2 months ago
@dilegentelectron what you think Red Communist China building up military for humanitarian efforts? just ask China neiboring countries. They are terrified of china
saigondj 2 months ago
@saigondj Oh yes, of course, we have better intentions than the americans.
dilegentelectron 2 months ago
@dilegentelectron LOL
saigondj 2 months ago
Now all they need are some pilots who can land on the damn thing and it just might work - eventually.
SANDSOFTRUTH 2 months ago
oh my us already afraid of china bcs of First Chinese Aircraft Carrier Is Almost Completed
daniyalman 2 months ago
congratulations china it only took you 21 centuries to build one while in the past 200 years the U.S. has built more than 100. In a matter of 16 hours our 13 nuclear powered carriers can be deployed along with another 200 helicopter/escort carriers.
MarineRaider214 2 months ago
@MarineRaider214 then why u guys couldn't win the war in iraq and aghanistan if u have those toys? why u guys didn't win the war in korea and vietnam? it proves brain is more important than advanced technological weaponry in a warfare...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
Chinese ancient saying: One is not gentleman if not pay back to honour giver and one is not human is not revenge to someone done thing bad to you. Another old saying: Take revenge not limit to present, 10 years is not too late. Anyone can do something bad to the Chinese, but they will remember them all.
fourdulai 2 months ago
China is swimming in cash, so we will see them get mightier and mightier while the west fizzles in self-destructing debt and no money to buy or develop new weapons.
Lavalambtron 2 months ago
Is that covered in cargo containers? Oh great, they're using it to smuggle more sweatshop workers to the US.
gunmnky 2 months ago
lol navyfield music
hilarious how china got a private company to buy this for commercial use to get around treaties and then took the ship from the bankrupt company to make it a war vessel. Oh well, let them try and use it and find out what a mk48 ADCAP is.
agoia 2 months ago
On one more thing, i thought the focus is on carriers, when did get to Vietnam war and shits that doesn't relate AIRCRAFT CARRIERS?
diepeopleb 2 months ago
Holy CRAAAAAAAP, i was reading these insane arguments 2 days ago, and10 more pages in 2 days???!!! WTF O.o
Seriously, people get way to sensitive over war and who kills who, and who fuks who, and ya those kinda things. As long as i am making money and living in luxury, i'm ok if their is a nuclear war.
diepeopleb 2 months ago
Lets go China! Time to level Taiwan!
hyeastun69 2 months ago
@hyeastun69 on behalf of the Chinese Overseas Community around the world, I just want to say it is not in the our interest to see both of our brothers to involve in another civil war. remember our division between communist and capitalist is actually an european war..it's a proxy war which we were caught in the middle.raised as an overseas Chinese my father always told me choosing between China n taiwan it's like choosing side between my father and my mother..it's simply impossible..
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
1. China = cheater: joined WTO but does not follow the rules, manipulates currency & subsidizes export companies to keep its products competitive with cheating practices. China doesn't let foreign companies do business unless they use local labor and must partner up with a local or govt. companies. 2. China = Thief: steals US commercial and military secrets, makes fake products. 3. China = robber: steals islands in the South China Sea from Vietnam, the Philippines & Japan.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 what's wrong with the american economy is caused by your own people (american), don't blame other nation for your own extravagant and wasteful behaviour. the fundamental problem of Us economy is you guys living WAY BEYOND YOUR MEAN. it's like u r blaming the ferrari car dealer for making u flat broke because u buy the ferrari from them???????..whose fault is that? did the dealer force u to buy the ferrari? HELL NO
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
Fuck the chinks. China = pirates of the South China Sea and the Yellow Sea, pirates of technologies. China stole commercial & military technologies from the US, copied everything illegally regardless of patents. 100% of software used in China is pirated. That said a lot about lawless China and how crooked its people are. China is using propagandas to beef up its international status, but everyone knows China ain't shit. 90% of China's economy relies on the US market.
sfsd911 2 months ago
1975-1979, China provided weapons & supported the Khemer Rouge regime to commit a genocide that killed 2 million Cambodians. In Dec 1978 Vietnam went into Cambodia to help stop the killing fields and restore humanity which the Chinese don't have. The Khemer Rouge collapsed. China lost face and sent 200,000 troops to invade Vietnam in 1979, killing thousands of women and children, burning homes, destroying bridges, roads, railroads before withdrawing due to heavy casualties.
sfsd911 2 months ago
Because of the US being a lone superpower, the world has been peaceful. No WW3 yet. But China, not yet a superpower, has already picked separate fights with Russia, Japan, Vietnam, India, Tibet, Uyghurs over lands and seas, ignoring international laws and treaties signed by China. Such a lawless country has no foundation or pillars of a real superpower. Recent economic growth does not make China a superpower since China copies everything illegally. Nobody respects China.
sfsd911 2 months ago
Everyone knows that without the US market, China's economy goes to the shithole. China can never be a superpower when you copy everything illegally from your master. China is a PAPER tiger that will crumble before the real superpower, the US. Everything in China is a copy with poor quality, from fighter jets to naval destroyers to software/hardware to household items. Chinese pilots will die of lead poisoning before their planes can take off. China = cheater. No respect for chink dogs.
sfsd911 2 months ago
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ShantyManCan 2 months ago
Don't worry, their pilots will die of lead poisoning before their planes could take off. Everything Made-In-China is all craps, from tools to fake patented products, fake medicine fake toys, fake iPhones, fake everything. Software in China is 100% pirated. The Chinese gov allows that shit to happen. China is a country of jungle laws with no accountability. That's why China used jungle laws to take what they think belong to them by force: Tibet, Paracel and Spratly Islands from Vietnam.
sfsd911 2 months ago
Do not trust the Chinese. They lie about everything and spread propagandas for their own benefits. They will ruin us economically, then give nuclear warheads to terrorists (North Korea, Iran, African countries) to kill all of us. They resents us for keeping Taiwan apart. They see us as enemy #1, not a business partner. Only stupid Obama and John Boehner sided with China and against American workers by not allowing the Senate-passed "China Currency Manipulation Bill" to vote in the House.
sfsd911 2 months ago
Studies by the Peterson Institute for International Economics say a 20 percent appreciation of China's yuan would reduce the U.S. trade deficit by up to $120 billion and create a half-million U.S. jobs. The more liberal Economic Policy Institute estimates that a 28.5 percent appreciation would create more than 2 million jobs. Obama should not tax us and waste money on failed public projects. Obama needs to get tougher with China by passing the China Currency Manipulation Bill. China=cheater.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 Obama won't get sterner with China. He does not seem to have the spine, although my opinion and view may not be very valid and misinformed due to living in the UK and our media seems to portray him as a strong leader, however my American friends say he is a bad president. I think he will play it safe, especially after China delivering an ultimatum to the US, he knows that China is ready to take action towards the US, unless they are bluffing, hard to tell with Jintao :P
ShantyManCan 2 months ago
@ShantyManCan Obama is the weakest of any US presidents. I hope Mitt Romney will we this time. Romney is tough and he has promised to take on China seriously. Obama is a wimp who does not want to upset his corporate donors doing business in China, therefore he can't deal with China effectively. Romney on the other hand is very wealthy, he does not need money. Therefore, it's good if we have Romney as president to fix arrogant China.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 Obama the weakest? He really is bigged up by our media over here then :) Why is China arrogant? Please elaborate :)
ShantyManCan 2 months ago
@sfsd911 It won't solve the problem..if Yuan is raised then all the department stores and shops in US are gonna be filled with another cheap stuff from India and Pakistan...who's the one provoking China to open its door to the world? the US, who's the one told China to open up its market to the world? the US..US did that because US was so confident that they r gonna win the game..well US is greatly mistaken...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 The US told China to open up, join WTO to foster prosperity for the world. But China does not play the game fair and square. After all, China is: Communists in theory to control its people, stripping them of basic rights and liberty. Capitalists in reality, making money using cheating practices (steals technologies, make fake products, manipulates currency, subsidizes exports). The US Agency for International Development helps poor countries progress, what has China done?
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 it's good if u know China is actually a capitalist. stripping the chinese people from their basic right? do u know each year 30 million chinese go overseas.and the strange thing is they all come back to China, if u say they don't have freedom why they come back to China? foster prosperity to the world? u tell that to your mexican neighbour face, don't just preach other nations to do the things that your own country and govt can't even do it
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 because their family still in china dumbass, adn they go back for vacation stupid ass. they eventually come back to USA crazy ass
saigondj 2 months ago
@sfsd911 share prosperity? the Mexican will laugh their heads off. what have your govt done to share the prosperity to your Mexican neighbour? stole california from the Mexican is that what you mean? is your govt sharing the prosperity in Iraq, aghanistan? US agency for internaional developments helps poor country? yeah right with string attached...tell that to all the countries in south america and Africa.
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@sfsd911 Now China has open Up u guys still unhappy..it's because China's winning..I guess u guys better create your own rules and play it by yourself u can't see other nations winning..btw what China's doing is exactly what the Japan's doing. Japan was the copy cat master..but look what they've achieved..so u can project China's capability in 20 years from now...don't just trust anything your govt and media throw at you without u do your own investigation 1st
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@sfsd911 Read foreign newspaper as well if u can, don't just read anything from you own country.u still remember the reason US invaded Iraq right? it's believed Iraq had WMD.well guess what? after Lynching Saddam, the WMD was never found, it's a massive fabrication made by your goverment as an excuse to go to Iraq to secure the supply of Oil for your country..was US media responsible in a way.I guess yes for being dishonest about the report on WMD in Irag n stirring public opinion in US
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago 2
@CrazyGuy259 I wish the US could get some of that oil from Iraq in return, but so far NONE. That's why gas prices in the US are still sky high.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 its not theirs to take so they dont have a right to that oil
untouchableali 2 months ago
I can't wait to see these chinese idiots try to land a plane on this pile of russioan scrap heap.
American pilots are laughing at the thought of this being a serious threat
kellykinsellives 2 months ago
Holy crap, a lot of arguing i see!!!!!!!!!!!
diepeopleb 2 months ago
@diepeopleb feel free to jump in mate hahahhaha
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
Only takes one RGM-84 to sink it.
NorStarReviews 2 months ago
Garbage aircraft carrier
800cody 2 months ago
Sadly we have 11 and pretty soon only 14
DontFUckWitUSA 2 months ago
frankly, it doesnt matter that china has procured yet another rusty hulk from Russia. lets compare: we have eleven currently serving aircraft carriers, all of which are nuclear powered. china has this one ex-soviet carrier which is powered by gas boilers. we win.
l337phyl 2 months ago
@l337phyl your currently so called 11 serving aircraft carriers whether u like it or not were made of Chinese money since your US govt owes billions of dollars to Chinese Govt. I highly doubt it if the Chinese govt would accept those rusty 11 carriers to offset US debts to China
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 You dumbass. $1.4 trillion is very little (compared to our annual budget) to worry about because the Pentagon annual budget is already $684 million. We don't owe the Chinese like a loan or something, they bought our junk bonds just like many others. The reason China has not dumped these junk bonds is because they have little or no effects on US economy. Stop spreading propaganda for the Chinese govt. China just wants attention to increase its influence on international stage.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 only china that has the cash and the interest of keeping US afloat.
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
looks like a peice of junk!
Ragnar6000 2 months ago
China is preparing to invade Taiwan..I think in the next 3-4 years we will see a attack on Taiwan
AccessDenied55 3 months ago
@AccessDenied55 Which is why Taiwan should arm itself with nukes to defend against a very belligerent Red China.
kryptonian55 3 months ago
@kryptonian55 Taiwan has a pretty small army, they have less than 300 Helicopters but they do have 1000+ Tanks,Armored Vechiles, Humvees. I think if Taiwan was invaded, Japan & US would automatically come to help, then maybe S.Korea would come tag along
AccessDenied55 3 months ago
@kryptonian55 no, then that would throw the UN into turmoil, it would probably start huge regional arms race, expanding to some parts of the M.E in fact, and really, who wins in a nuclear war? "The only way to win a Cold War is not to play!"
j0noStrIk3r 2 months ago
@AccessDenied55 ...and inevitably a US intervention, along with NATO and the US's closest allies
j0noStrIk3r 2 months ago
What is the song? It sounds badass!
Hissanrach 3 months ago
About time they made 1... oh wait, it's actually a Soviet carrier.
I honestly think China outsources their military creations to Russia. They're too busy making cheap consumer toys.. While the big boys like the U.S and Russia actually know what the fuck they're doing =)
TBird4490 3 months ago
@TBird4490 ever heard China sold rockets to Nigeria and launch it for them for their satellite communication?....your apple computer and ipod are manufactured in China..don't forget that..:)
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Yeah but here's the thing about that...
We invented these technologies.. YEARS ago. China is not innovative by any means. They're a production country.. not an inventive one. They look at products other countries make, and then make cheap imitations of them. A few years back they got in trouble with Russia for making an identical jet.. Look it up.
Don't forget that for now, China is a production giant, they are not an inventive giant. ;)
Hope you learned something!
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 hahhahah mate You have to study the history of japan as well. what the Chinese is doing is exactly what the Japanese was doing..Japan was a copy cat master when they started modernizing their military and country. Look at what they have achieved now. at certain point China will break away from that pattern and go down their own innovation path. trust me on this...they r making up for the lost time for skipping the industrial revolution and modernisation.
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@TBird4490 cont...if u want to be fair comparing chinese civilization vs western civilization, u should compare it between two of them before the west embarked on the industrial revolution. the Chinese invented compass, umbrella, powder gun, kite, printing technique, silk, tea and so many other inventions..seriously mate..just dig deeper and study more the ancient chinese civilization, I reckon you would be impressed...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Keyword "before". We're not there anymore. Are we?
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 history is the mirror to the future...that's why we study history:) from the year 1 to the year 1840 the two largest economy was constantly China and India. just for the last 200 years the west surpassed those 2 giants with the help of industrial revolution. the Chinese r very much aware of their own history, on the other hand US look at it as an irreversible course of history if the peak of one particular civilization had passed
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@TBird4490 cont...it will never be able to rebounce back, and they are greatly mistaken. US has 300 years of history, China has 5000 years of history. US hasn't stood the test of time yet as an empire. China has endured the ups and down within that 5000 years.
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
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@CrazyGuy259 Cont. Assembly Line Space Shuttles Fiberoptics Computer C, C#, C++, Java, Javsscript, Lisp, VB, etc... Internet Stealth technology Discovery of Alternating current and electricity. Segway DNA computing Quantum Casecade Lasers Adobe Flash Bionic Contact Lenses Hubble Telescope Tupperware Proton Therapy TRANSISTORS Supersonic Aircraft Cable T.V. Video Game console Crash-test dummy +airbag. Pens Maser Cross-field Amplifier Automated door Radar Gun Particle Storage Ring
TBird4490 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Which looks better? The inventions that I listed? Or gun powder and umbrellas... Just saying.
I have no doubt the Chinese are an impressive people that can achieve great things. I'm simply stating they are not that innovative and are not technologically on the same level as the U.S. at the MOMENT.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 did it ever cross your mind what's happening with west at the time China could come up with so many inventions in the ancient time? when the innauguration of Beijing as the new capital of China, Beijing was guarded with 1 millions Chinese soldiers wearing the most elegant silk fabric for their uniform, many historians comparing the exact date of that even happening in the west, a week after that,
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@TBird4490 cont...in the west king Henry was sworn as the king of England guarded by just 100 soldiers wearing uniform from potato sack type of fabric. yes the US is innovative at the moment but the question is how long will it last? considering the have massive debts to pay, some economists even say it will take couple of generations to pay off US debt to China. with no money how a nation will fund their Research and Development process to create new innovative products?
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@TBird4490 yeah those listed inventions are cool toys I must admit but what's the use? US troops couldn't win the war in Irag and Afghanistan after 10 years battle with those cool toys against bunch of people wearing sandals? it's not the weapon, its the strategy that matters.if US troops learned their own history in north korea and Vietnam, they wouldn't be so arrogant and careless in waging the war in the middle east. US is not aware of her own history
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 What's the use? The Internet? Super and hypersonic aircraft? Are you serious? Alternating current and transistors. What use of these? You're kidding me right? Programming languages, computers. Use of these?
Intentions that have furthered humanity as a whole. That's the use of these. Computers and the Internet, by far among the most important inventions this planet ever saw.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 it's good if those r used to advance humanity,but technology can destroy human kind as well such as nuclear bombs..don't forget that...internet could be abused by irresponsible people to prey on minors etc2. when all those industrialists invented stuff did they even consider or factored in the enviromental implications that the world has to bear? can u guarantee all those technologies won't be used by irresponsible govt to invade or attack other nations?
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 ...But we did win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As unpopular and unfavorable these wars are, we accomplished what we set out to do. Why do you say we lost the war? In what way did we lose? I would love to hear your arguments. We overthrew a tyrannical regime in Iraq and we're still fighting terrorists (and winning) there.
Al Quida no longer plays a role in Afghanistan.. what is left of them is hiding in Pakistan. The cowards..
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 read more article about US war in middle east, I can't believe how naive u guys, u still remember right why US went to Iraq? it's suspected Iraq had WMD..well guess what? after lynching Saddam Hussein that WMDs were never found in Iraq. the evidence of WMD was a massive US fabrication to invade Iraq to secure the supply of the OIL. just type the words US failure in Iraq and Afghanistan..u will find lots of evidences..even the whole world know US failed in Iraq and Afghan
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@TBird4490 type the words on google..its everywhere in the media , writing about US massive failures in Iraq and Afghanistan
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 And as for the war in Vietnam, please don't forget we were actually winning the war. The ONLY reason we left was because videos and images of the war were leaked, and it became incredibly popular home in the U.S.
It's a fact we were winning, look online anywhere and read an article, it isn't really a secret to be honest. We only lost because the war became unpopular and we left. Fact.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 judging by your comments definitely either the history lesson has been twisted by your government or u guys too lazy to study the history. its everywhere mate..with the massive title US lost the vietnam war....again do some more reading..u will find the truth....why u r still in denial of this facts...don't forget do some more digging about korean war as well as your homework where US troops got decimated :)
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Tax 100% all goods coming from China one year and our debt is erased. China is paying almost no tax for its exports to the US, but China is taxing heavily US exports to China. For example, luxury cars from the US are taxed 200%. Not to mention that US exports to China is so small compared to China’s exports to the US. 90% of China’s trade surplus is with the US. Taxing Chinese goods saves American jobs from outsourcing due to China's cheap-ass laborers and currency manipulation.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 u forget who was the promoter of globalisation..US ! when US promoted globalisation they were so confident they could win the game. When china applied closed door policy u guys criticised China just like u guys critizing north korea, when China already opened their door and winning the game...u guys r still complaining....whatever the Chinese does won't make u guys happy..
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 For every 5 Northern Vietnamese soldiers killed, 1 American was killed. Sounds like a winning war to me. if you knew anything at all, you would know we left because it was an unpopular war, and these things called hte PENTAGON PAPERS. Why don't you look up The New York Timjes vs. The United States. lol... I know my history, I did a research paper on the subject kid.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 You didnt research it enough then did you? America lost the Vietnam war, purpose of US involvement was to stop communist expansion, they failed at that. The amount of casualties has nothing to do with the outcome, the outcome is dependant on the objectives of either side. America failed and North Vietnam succeeded in making all Vietnam communist. Hence, America 0% succession in their goal, N Vietnam 100% succession....North Vietnam won the war.
snico 2 months ago
@snico They didn't stop it because they left. That's why. It wasn't "they failed, so they decided to leave". It was they left, and therefore they lost. It's absolutely imperative you understand this detail before trying to educate others on this matter.
Nobody is disputing that North Vietnam won the war. But it's factual that we lost Vietnam because:
Documents were leaked (Pentagon Papers. New York Times v. United States (1971))
And it became an unpopular war.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Here you go, straight from the internet. Just google Korean War statisticcs of casualties.
South Korea - 595,000
North Korea - 1,316,579
China - 500,000
United States - 33,000
So once again, where's the part where we were lost? We actually kept communist North Korea and China from taking over the korean peninsula.
It's dangerous to be ignorant, and then try to educate people. Please refrain from this behavior in the future.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 hahahha r u making up those numbers? .u haven't added up other coaliton troops that's KIA alongside US troops...
South Korea(227,800), US(54,229), UK(710), Turkey(717), Aussie(291), Canada(309), France(288), Thailand(114), Greece(169),Holland(111), Columbia(140), Ethiopia(120), Philippines(92), Belgium(97), NewZealand(94), South Africa(20), Japan(several)......PRC China(132,000)
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 But you're talking about the Vietnam war regarding the U.S. You never said anything about coalition. You were specifically talking about the U.S.
It is statistically factual the U.S. didn't lose ANYWHERE NEAR the amount that Vietnam lost.
I think you're trying too hard now... lol.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 look at the numbers on the south korea's side
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 See below.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 I was referring to my stats not your skewed stats..
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Skewed stats? They're from a non-bias website. It's not even an american website ROFL. You're clearly not too bright.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Please tell me what part of my factual statistics are "skewed". I am waiting.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 just compare your stats and my stats...if u say your sources is reliable then I can say my sources is reliable as well..if u r bright enough u should investigate and approach our debate from two sides of the perspectives...look I'm no pro China and I'm no pro US as well, but just trying to give a more balanced view. if u r bright enough why it didn't cross your mind those 10 plus US led coalition forces with US technological supremacy against 2 nations with backward...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 No offense. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore. You're lying and clearly everybody knows it. Everybody thinks so. All they have to do is type it into google and read about it anywhere =)
It's dangerous to be ignorant and then trying to educate people. Once again I ask that you refrain from this behavior in the future.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 cont...weaponry couldn't take down the whole korea? why the coalition couldn't win the war? if u say US won the war in vietnam why vietnam is still a commy state up until now?..
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 unpopular* rather.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 Dear TBird. Debating is quite cool at times and by no means am I trying to offend you. However, I must defend my fellow peer on this. I admit, China under late Qing was corrupt and under Mao, it was mis-directed, but we were VERY inventive throughout history. We are not the type of ethnicity that likes to stick a flag on something and say, "Yeah! Fuckers! We did this!" Compass, computing machines, gun powder, irrigation canal systems, etc were all Chinese & improvised by Westerners.
arodspecialist 2 months ago
@TBird4490 For all the haters that think China really want the world? Really? You keep on raising up knowledge and history, and since I know literally everything about the US, here is one for you. 500 to 600 years ago, admiral named Zheng He who sailed most of the South China sea lanes as well as ones to Africa to intimidate pirating nations, but also to cement themselves as a trade giant. If we wanted the 25 nations which currently dwell around that region, we would have done it. It is not us.
arodspecialist 2 months ago
And it only took them 70 years...
GeckoKing101 3 months ago
"first chinese carriers" really? it is from the Soviets!!
stop dreaming China, you cant even built your own carrier..
thetrialshot 3 months ago
@thetrialshot it reminds me of Japan when they started modernising their military, Japan was a master of copy cat, but look what they have achieved now ?.....China took over japan as the 2nd largest economy in the world last year..and..not far away from the US now...from the Japanese case you can project Chinese capability for the next 50 years...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
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CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@thetrialshot well said,truly!
j0noStrIk3r 2 months ago
This is good but also its likely this Aircraft Carrier is going to have some flaws and some lack of certain components...but still chinas doing this for the first time ,so lets wait and see how their aircraft carrier turns out
kunalchanna 3 months ago
China will use this to invade Spratly islands of the Philippines.
onetotwelve1 3 months ago
@onetotwelve1 but it sail's halfway :(
thetrialshot 3 months ago
Ha ha ha it looks like a skate board ramp. Can I bring my skate board and give it a try.....another floating coffin that china is making LOL why? China cant make an Aircraft catapult. they haven't stolen the technology yet ha ha ha ha
juan1970541 3 months ago
CHINA ISNT EVEN BLUE WATER CAPABLE, DON'T EVEN JOKE AROUND, WE CAN MESS THIS UP SO QUICK.
Airshot06 3 months ago
no catapults? this means that the planes take up pretty much all of what little flight deck this hunk of shit has to take off. including the fact that the ship has no aircraft elevators, i conclude that the carrier can hold 15 aircraft at MOST, not including awacs or asw planes. this also means the planes will have to carry limited weaponry, in order to be light enough to get off. lastly, the planes would most likely need canards, destroying performance of aircraft at high speed. 再见, bitch ship.
fatty1443 3 months ago
@fatty1443 actually, it has 2 aircraft elevators..i suggest doing research
dimstong 3 months ago
i don't know what the hype is over this aircraft carrier, in fact there should be next to little or none! for 1 chinese aircraft carrier against 10+ USN carriers, china should be running scared, and there not even nuclear powered!
j0noStrIk3r 3 months ago
@j0noStrIk3r China doesn't need too sophisticated weaponry to kick US ass, since US couldn't win the war in Iraq and Afghan after 10 years long war against bunch of people wearing sandals. it's proven already in North Korea and Vietnam war, US' ass got kicked so hard...learn the history who was running scared?
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 your fighting cowards who are the best at hide & seek, no wonder why it has taken so long, but we got there! and korean war hasn't finished so don't talk like it has, and the vietnam war; the US and it's allies completely decimated the Northern Vietnamese and Viet Cong, we lost politically, not physically! and btw read about the Battle of Long Tan, even their general at the time said they would never test the Australians ever again!
j0noStrIk3r 2 months ago
@j0noStrIk3r u r just another delusional dude...read further article about US lost the vietnam war...why US hesitating to take down north korea now? what's holding US back? oh I see they r afraid of the Chinese army which decimated the US 8th regiment in North Korea in 1950...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 The US owes China $1.4 trillion. So what? That's a little more than 2 times the Pentagon's $684 billion annual budget. Tax Chinese exports for one year and we don’t owe them anything. We just raise tariffs on goods coming from China, making them more expensive to compete with American goods, thus keep American jobs from outsourcing. China is not a free trade country. You are not allowed to do business freely in China. Boycott Chinese goods if you want jobs. Fuck China.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@sfsd911 Who was the promoter of Globalisation in the first place..guess what? the US, who insinuated China to open up their econommy ? guess what its US again...when china applied closed door policy..u guys criticise China, when China already opened up their door to the world..u guys still criticising China...China just beat US in US'own game....when US told China to open up their economy, US was so confident that US could win the game...well u r greatly mistaken guys....
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 There is no game. in 1970, US simply just wanted China away from Russia to de-escalate the cold war. US helped China because it hoped that a wealthy China would less likely to go to war. The US was already a superpower while China was still dirt poor in the 70's, 80's, even 90's. The US didn't need China back then, it simply wanted to prevent China from forming an alliance with Russia by helping China to improve its economy in hope that China will forget about going to war.
sfsd911 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Like.. it's so funny how ignorant you are. You've never even heard of New York Times v. United States, and then you try to say we lost in Vietnam because we were getting our ass kicked? Like.. do you actually look up statistics before you spew your opinionated assertions? It's hard to even debate with somebody who is so ignorant and brainwashed.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 u r the one in denial...read further about vietnam war...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 No offense. I can't take you seriously anymore. I have presented you with factual statistical data and you say "read further". You present opinionated assertions as factual evidence, and in a debate, that is something nobody takes seriously. Please take this moment to reflect on my initial statement that you continue to demonstrate your inability to read and properly interpret text.
Furthermore I encourage you to become knowledgable on a subject before you "teach" it.
TBird4490 2 months ago
@TBird4490 u only read the subject u want to read by ignoring other factuals...do u thing US brave enough to go to north korea by themselves without the support of coalition...look at the stats..2 countries (China and North Korea) against more than 10 nations at the same time...yet the US led coalition troops couldnt take the whole korea...it's embarrassing...seriously....US did the same mistake in Iraq and afghan...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 what article, do you seriously expect me to google it, yeah what a greatname; CrazyGuy, yeah I'm totally gonna trust you! and they are only hesistant because NK could be potienally nuclear armed, or they might call on China which would start a third world war, be logical here, not dumbass!
j0noStrIk3r 2 months ago
yet another Chinese weapon pirated by the Russians. Do they make good guns? Dah.
speed150mph 4 months ago
What is the purpose of china building aircraft carriers? for Defense or intimidation? I think this is an act of aggression to its neighboring country's.
Sparty1234561 4 months ago
@Sparty1234561 ever heard of opium war? when the brits came to China and forced the Chinese govt to legalize opium and the chinese govt refused to do so because they knew the brits were trying to make the whole China addicted to opium and collapse. upon the refusal, the brits bombarded China and hongkong was ceded to the brits for 100 years....Macau to the portuguese....so on and so forth..do u think it's for offensive or defensive the carrier's built?
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@Sparty1234561 oh yeah btw the brits came from the sea...
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
It's almost like Dukes of Hazzard, it has a jump ramp at the end. :P
03SSMontecarlo 4 months ago
看了这些评论，我想中国必须得有航母
woonhi 4 months ago
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wehavewaffles247 4 months ago
What a very interesting design...do you know any of the specifics about this plane? I'm an aircraft carrier enthusiast. How many planes can it hold? Is it nimitz class? What type of launching system is it going to use, the standard steam catapult? It's very cool indeed.
dolfanlinda 4 months ago
@dolfanlinda It was made in Ukraine during the soviet era. It looks very much like an Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier. You may find the specifics searching for that. Yet, the Chinese military is updating it so we probably won't know anything for sure.
fredbeaudet 4 months ago
@dolfanlinda woops, meant to say ship..lol
dolfanlinda 4 months ago
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This is a RESEARCH vessel ok everyone?!?!
VancouverCanucksRock 4 months ago
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VancouverCanucksRock 4 months ago
ccp has more than 300000 internet propaganda dog, its famous things (its call 五毛党 or 50cent army, etc), ccp`s more than 300000 guy is working everyday 24hours everywhere internet, they deceive their chinks and world people too, they are making fake comment everywhere internet, even youtube too, those ccp`s propaganda dog is try to operate pablic opinion, i can see so many those dogs in youtube, if you go any chinks video, most of chinks commentator is just one of 300000
77777XYZ 4 months ago
who cares if the US is in debt. i guarantee you we have the most weapons on earth not to mention the most nukes by far. so you if wanna talk shit, get hit and get blown to pieces.
Stearnsy17 5 months ago
@Stearnsy17 Hi there. Who were you referring to? This is just a simple vid about someone who was excited that China has their first carrier rebuilt with French modern designs. Research some, technically, Russia still has more nukes than the US despite losing 47.6% of it to other "new" nations like Ukraine, etc. Also, Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty signed by 150+ countries forbids nukes. Lastly, during the Col War with all them crazies, no one pressed the button. So relax, no wars just pride.
arodspecialist 4 months ago in playlist Misc Discussion Topics
@arodspecialist recently I heard US is walking away from NPT....is that true?
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 Dear Youtuber. I do not think it is that easy. I do believe any NWS-5 total-who wants to leave needs to be voted out like certain UN resolutions and it has to be a majority. I can't say for sure, but I do believe I read it somewhere. So China and Russia can refuse, but Britain and France can certainly assist the US in that matter. A new NWS of course will be voted in and India is a top candidate. I doubt the US would allow that. Thanks for introducing this new research topic.
arodspecialist 2 months ago
@Stearnsy17 Russia has the most nukes, by a long long shot, also the most powerful; Russia also has the most armoured vehicles by a long shot. But US has largest navy and air force.
ShantyManCan 4 months ago
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Russia has the most nukes, by a long long shot, also the most powerful; Russia also has the most armoured vehicles by a long shot. But US has largest navy and air force.------and what is most important these days? = navy and air force
creativeprojects720 4 months ago
@ShantyManCan yeah but still couldn't win the war in Iraq and Afghan after 10 years...what's the use?????
CrazyGuy259 2 months ago
@CrazyGuy259 and yet your from the USA am I right! don't fool yourself, wake up and breathe some reality before you get locked away for treason!
j0noStrIk3r 2 months ago