Should e-voting machines be outlawed?

[ISISMainframe]

Looks like the last time mainstream media even talked about known DIEBOLD flaws was 4 years ago. The Mainstream Media and their Illuminati members have done a fine job FIXING the issue of VOTE outcomes since the days of JFK upsets. It would be a cack if Anonymous did something positive like make a virus that counters the easily uploadable DIEBOLD virus. This would kick the New World Order fair in the NUTS. Then they would have another UPSET and that UPSET would be RON PAUL.

[bladeproject1]

Outlaw Diebold.

[AcePilot101]

Canadians count their paper ballots by hand; there is no question of fraud there.

Why are Americans so stupid?

[prophecyunveiled]

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[OregonDARRYL]

Too late now America. You didn't want to believe it could happen and it did.

How to screw America:

1: Purchase congress - done

2: Purchase the media - done

3: Rig elections with crooked machines - done

4: Make trillions from from war and oil "shortages". Sell FEAR! - done

5: Exploit foreign workers - leave borders open. - done

Say goodbye to America - not enough people cared to question "authority", so the country was taken over. - done.

[buttpluger56]

watch my video why voting is a fraud

[whater39]

use paper ballots.

When counting them. Have a representative from each party doing the tally. And maybe have a police offer patrolling between several counting tables.

This way no party can say anything is biased.

If there is any concern about a miscount, then use common sense and re-count them. Do not destroy the ballots till everyone is elected & everyone has done any possible legal appeal on the results.

Common sense, get it right.

[my15minutes]

eeyep.

that's the solution i would endorse as well. :)

tyvm for your comment.

[jonathangregoire]

the best way to get rid of it is to hack it in favor of Ron Paul!!! Then they will do something about it...

GO RON PAUL 2008

[my15minutes]

jon - heh. while i cannot endorse the idea of hacking it, even for the best of candidates, i certainly support your choice of who to do it for.

[jonathangregoire]

The point of hacking it in favor of Ron Paul is not to have him elected (even if I want to see him as a president), it's to get rid of these machines. If the fraud is in favor of one of the candidate they didn't want to win, they will say it's a fraud and will have to get rid of those machines, and all the big media will do all they can to expose it.

[hondaishere]

Now its.

Vote for Chuck Baldwin

Youtube:Chuck Baldwin

[owensaruba]

YES! I'll never consider wasting my time voting until my countrymen demand an honest count. And it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon.

[my15minutes]

owen - hey, is that your actual first name? heh. still a little freaky for me to meet other owens. :D

what do you think of the basic idea, that i left in a comment last year, on this page?

the bit about being able to check back and verify who you voted for?

would that restore your confidence?

[cherylcroft]

Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman has RE_CERTIDIFED the DIEBOLD hackable voting machines for 2008 election!!!

NO FAIR ELECTIONS IN THE US anymore...if they ever were!

[my15minutes]

thank you for the update, cheryl!

i take it that your answer to the question, in my title above, would be 'yes'?

or, can you imagine a way to e-vote, and still have it be secure?

[ZXEN1]

do absentee vote then.

[dianeliebowitz]

IT infects the entire count...the end result will still be altered! They need to do paper counts...how much trouble can it be when something so important is at stake...I will volunteer to count little pieces of paper for 6 months if it means an honest election!

[kukulcan12]

Hell yes they should be outlawed. I can't believe people were stupid enough to allow them in the first place!

[nage1]

Jack Cafferty's the only newsman who gets it- too bad he's pretty much only appears in the situation room.

[my15minutes]

nage1 - E-mail him. I do, in respose to his questions, frequently.

And have seen my response at the end of his clips, more than once.

The more e-mail he gets, the more the producers notice, the more he gets a chance to step up, like his very recent "Broken Government" series.

E-mail him. And thx for comment!

[WNanette]

Anyone who writes for the Spotlight paper gets it. Cafferty & mainstream media (major dollars for 'campaign ads, etc) will often allow tidbits to be agreed with, or 'exposed' even, if only to give the illusion they're open & honest.

[YOumeanMe]

propose only paper voting next time at your local caucaus.. yes i said caucaus.... i did in 2000. and 2004. and will again in 2008..

[Superorchestra]

YES! Outlaw them !

[bluesky45207]

Ah, yes now we get to the meat of this issue. They are not counting anyone's votes anymore folks. When they decided to take over the world this time they did their homework first and did their pre-work as well. It's not over till the fat lady sings and I tell ya she's blaring out a dusy of a number all across the world. Welcome to 1984 a fews years late but better late than never.

[riquinhoricoricao]

This "infectious" problem to democracy is now World wide! We had these machines in Québec (Canada) in 2005's municipal elections and the medias and the DGE (Election General Director) only talk of "irregular late results"... And we have the biggest paper reserve in the world!

[shortfu]

Don't tell me that they're gonna use the Diebold's electronic voting machines again?

[dianeliebowitz]

How is anyone gonna stop them...this is the first time I think the general public will get a ral dose of how they don't give two shits ...

they know the public will have to get on with theier lives...because they have the power to scream at you..GET BACK TO WORK!!! Don't think about anything!!! KNOW YOUR PLACE!!! Goyim!

[Urgelt]

At this point I think we have to take vote tampering as a given. But this is no third world dictatorship. It'll be done *carefully,* in races that are close, so that the fuss raised is containable.

Minor tampering is all that's needed to guarantee the Presidency and enough of Congress to continue the momentum towards an authoritarian executive. The Supreme Court is already nicely packed to support it.

[vdoevidence911]

Make your own paper trail. Vote Absentee. Maybe they will get the message.

Please, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Bush/PNAC administration pass a law that all states have to change to these "evoting" machines? Smells Like Fish!

[my15minutes]

Well-researched paper on e-voting:

http://tinyurlDOTcom/n5lug

[blampow]

The bottom line here, I think, is that there's *no* possible reason *not* to make a paper trail.

The only defense against this is to mutter about paranoia. But why not just defuse the paranoia by making a paper trail?

So we're unreasonable. Pander to us.

Yes, e-voting machines should be outlawed/paper trailed.

[1MoreMadMusician]

It shouldn't matter that Diebold and its execs are major Republican campaign contributors, but I think it does!

[my15minutes]

Ideally, you're right. It shouldn't. But the reason it DOES (and make no mistake, haters reading this, it does) is a simple concept called:

conflict of interest

[my15minutes]

But in the meantime, these Diebold machines have been undeniably compromised, due to collosal failures in security design.

If something isn't done by November, then regardless of the outcome, there's going to be a lot of suspicion. A serious lack of trust in the voting process does not serve a democratic republic well.

[my15minutes]

Well, whether we use paper or not, it seems rather easy to fix all of this, really. *Staggeringly* easy, in a way that few dilemnas in this world are easily solved.

You should be able to go to your polling place, or whatever civic building in your city, anytime after the election. Present proper ID to prove you're you. And ask them, simply...

"Who did I vote for?"

[ilikestuff712]

WOW... they can be alterred in 2 mins??

Fuck that!! Paper ballots all the way!

[Maddie1202]

you can mess with this in 10 Seconds and use mini bar keys to open them up! Demand a paper ballot!

Great find 15, Love Cafferty

[my15minutes]

Well-researched paper on e-voting:

http://tinyurlDOTcom/n5lug