Credit to the helicopter pilot for fast reflexes and skill but the cessna did have the right of way so he would of been at fault had they actually crashed.
bet he almost shit himself. and yes that cessna was taxing to fast. Not the cessna pilots fault but it would have gave him more time to see and avoid if he was going slower..i was trained to taxi no faster than a slow jog.
@CzEcHmySmOkE No i think a good pilot would have seen that plane long before coming within seconds of impact. Good Manoeuvre at the end though, i bet he shit his pants
Likeawhispr......I see u are that pilot who not only knows about his aircraft but when u fly in controlled airspace u magically know what the total traffic picture is. In this case as in all imminent danger situations the pilot better do something to avoid it but to say regardless of what ATC says so wrecklessly is going to get u or someone else killed. Common sense applies but that is a arrogant stance. U will waste a lot of fuel flying around in circles waiting to come in being a jerk off.
I think what he meant was that regardless of what ATC says, a pilot-in-command is responsible for reacting in oposition to ATC instructions if it will put his, or other, aircraft in danger.
Also, in the event of an emergency the pilot-in-command should, again, do what is needed to respond to the situation at hand, yes, REGARDLESS of ATC instructions.
Corvette35000..... True, however u really can do whatever u want with a helicopter depending on traffic, pilot skill level, and situation. That's part of a controllers job to see and react ahead of time that if the helicopters tail would be sticking out onto runway for example, adjusting ground traffic before hand is what is needed. Also a smaller aircraft cold have taken some damage from rotor wash. Very dangerous to ground traffic and personnel. I realize this was at an uncontrolled airport.
Maybe it was an uncontrolled field? Maybe the helicopter pilot was busy hovering and just didn't see him. .? Helicopters can be treated like an airplane or a helicopter, controllers call. Sometimes it's easier to bring them in like an airplane sometimes straight to a specific point. I have seen this exact scenario so many times between 2 airplanes i could not count them all. I've seen a pa28 land over the top of another pa28 holding in position. Even great pilots make mistakes and controllers.
Many of you make good points and those coming at my comment well whatever. I'm not claiming to be an expert on this video but I have seen thousands of examples of screw ups whether it be from controller or pilot. Usually it is the pilot. The controller could have told the other aircraft to hold position, give way to the helicopter, follow the helicopter. Maybe the aircraft was told to taxi to a specific ramp and the pilot missed it. Too many variables to even list.
@LafreniereJ UNICOM very rarely, if ever, gives out, or is involved in, ground-traffic situations or reports, excepting aircraft preparing to depart at the end of the runway.
@ProChoiceJesus Pilots like you that give all us Pilots bad names. I dont care about your career. Hey buddy, How do you know if theirs a Pilot at a party? He'll tell ya! haha
@LafreniereJ May I ask, what in my reply to stingercj7 pushed your sensitive buttons that you would insult me as a "wanna be pilot?" What is it that I said in my simple explanation of ATC/PIC/Emergencies that would require my ingesting a "chill pill," whatever that is? And, then, how is it in my reply to you that I am now giving pilots "a bad name?" Be specific. I didn't reveal myself as a pilot until you labled me a "wanna-be," without even knowing me. What did I do to you, Lafreniere?
@ProChoiceJesus I noticed you said you have a lucrative career as a pilot, and I don't doubt that. Thats why i wanna ask you what do you fly. I'm 21 completely broke and no, to this date, formal flying lessons under my belt. I guess the only question I have is how to get started? and also what would be a good career path to ensure I end up flying for more to insure I don't just get stuck with a license and a ton of debt.
@tenacious645 I am a sheetmetall & structures specialist/mechanic/supervisor at a large aircraft modification & maintenance corporation. I instruct on the side, weekends, and mostly part-time. I love instructing, & am not trying to build hours toward a pilot job, as are many/most flight instructors. I do it to keep flying, and am considering full-time flight instructing as a career move & alternative. There are few flight instructors who love their jobs or want to do it long-term. Continued...
@tenacious645 I use the term lucrative in relation to my A&P position.
The main non-military path to those considering pilot careers is; find a 4 year university with a flying bachelor's degree and study like there's no tomorrow. Earn a high GPA, then build your hours instructing. 500-1,000 hours & corporations & airlines will consider you. Unfortunately, it's expensive, so low-interest student loans are the norm. Those who do very well in high school can get scholarships & grants. Continued..
A cheaper school is usually not an issue at resume time. Grades, performance & attitude are. I have a nephew who did Baylor University Aviation (very expensive), but since he had a stellar GPA in high school, it cost him little. He rode on scholarships. About a year later, with less than 500 hours, he was in the right seat of a corporation's Sabreliner. He recently moved to Captain on a G-IV, but that's because he was in the right place at the right time, which is also huge in flying careers.
You are still young at 21, do not delay if you want to fly for a career. The younger, the better when it comes to university. Don't be discouraged being "completely broke." In America, opportunities to pay for college have few limits. GO FOR IT! Do not squander your 20s like I did. I had aviation college handed to me on a silver platter but goofed off & quit, barely getting my commercial/instrument from my wasted time there. A&P & CFII came much later. Commit your life, 4 years, you CAN do it!
@Benjeaour007 You would be too if the sun was right where the cessna was, and if this is an airport with no ATC then the chopper had the right of way because you are supposed to clear the runway for possible traffic behind you.
@Benjeaour007 Ok, how about this, at your next available opportunity why don't you go look at the sun and tell me if you can see anything else, or drive toward the sun with no sun glasses while it's going down. You can't see, and since the Cessna is high-winged then he probably couldn't see that the heli hadn't held short.
@Airsoftguy1313 the speed no is correct the runway no is for choppers is for planes because ta position no is correct the airport no is for practice is very dangerous
@Airsoftguy1313 Flying a helicopter requires a lot of responsibility and careful enough, it is life and this is no game, that pilot must revoke the license will immediately
@Benjeaour007 If I wanted to be lectured about the responsibilites of flying then I would go back to flight school. It was an un-forseen event in which the helicopter pilot was focused enough to have the reflexes to keep from hitting that cessna. If anything it was the plane's fault just as much as the helicopter's.
@boobyboob69 He didn't have to, and that line is for entering the runway, it is rare that an atc would stop you on the opposite side. And if this airport had no ATC the heli had right of way to clear the runway.
What u all dont see is that the helicopter pilot was temporarily blinded by sun glare....look at the shadows & the position the cessna was coming from....right from the helicopter pilots 2 o' clock postion.....he sees it at the last second as it comes out from the glare.......still he should have held at the holding point......the cessna pilot was perfectly in his rght to taxi thinking that the helicopter pilot had well & truly seen him......they are both very lucky.. Boo to the helo pilot.!!
I don't know where this is but was it a controlled or uncontrolled airport? If controlled, then the helo would have been told to "contact ground" control. He should not have left the first taxiway without instructions. If its uncontrolled, then the usual "See and Avoid" rule applies.IMO, both were taxiing too fast and both had the opportunity to avoid this "almost" mishap.
@andgate2000 taxiing "too fast" had nothing to do with this near accident. This incident could've been avoided if the heli pilot looked both ways before entering an intersection (regardless of instructions). When you drive a car, do you just go through the intersection when your light turns green, or do you look both ways first EVERY TIME you enter an intersection? I look both ways so I don't get killed by the drunk who isn't paying attention. Makes good sense huh? Of course it does.
helicopters fault didn't stop after the point after the threshold and the cesner had right of way because he was on the right hand side to the helicopter :)
Apparently this pilot doesn't know how to check visually for traffic. Even if he did have clearance beyond the hold short point he should have seen the fixed wing.
I am an retired controller and there is no way to determine who was at fault by watching this clip. There is no audio and for all we know it could have been the controllers fault. A helicopter can be handled in many many ways or just like a plane taxiing but regardless someone should have been told to hold short of something or to follow etc. If they were told then either helicopter or plane is at fault.
@stingercj7 Aircraft vacating always have the right of way, the cessna should have stopped. Regardless that the bell should have seen this coming. Bad airmanship on both sides imho.
@stingercj7 There is a possibility that this is an airport w/o ATCs. The Heli got clear of the runway almost immediately and got into a low taxi, and when he did clear the runway the sun was on his starboard side and so was the cessna. Now since the Cessna is a high winged aircraft I doubt he saw the helicopter after he turned onto the taxiway. Essentially if this is an airport with no ATC than it is both of their faults, both were taxiing to fast and not paying enough attention.
@stingercj7 You're on crack, especially if you're a retired controller... because every licensed P-I-L-O-T knows that it is our job to keep a look out for traffic because every P-I-L-O-T knows that controllers sometimes give wrong directions and it is the PIC's (pilot in command) job to ensure the safety of aircraft/crew at all times. Obviously, in THIS CASE what direction a controller many have given is irrelevant. PIC wasn't looking both ways before crossing the damn street! :) -pilot
... So whether or not this airport was controlled or not, the pilot of the Jetranger failed to do the most fundamental thing that pilots are suppose to do- watch for traffic! Controlling the aircraft & safety supersedes a controller's instructions! ATC has told me to enter a right down wind when traffic was clearly flying in the opposite direction! Common sense plays an important role. It's MY job to fly the aircraft, pay attention and look out for my aircraft/crew/pax.
@stingercj7 But you cant wait past the holding point...if he had stopped, he would have been on the runway causing backup, and of course, the smaller plane would continue...but then there would be go-arounds?
Not trying to start an argument, just asking a question:)
The chopper made a turn without looking. In my very first PPL lesson the instructor made a big point of making sure I got into the habit of looking out before I made a turn.
@rwpage76 No they don't. Helicopters do whatever they want. Example (I hear this every single day by the way. I am a helicopter pilot.........) "Helo 1 Bravo Alpha, hover taxi direct Alpha Charlie intersection. Alpha Charlie intersection departure approved" And on arrival I hear, "Hover or Air taxi direct parking, pilots discretion"
@tburns7v Ah, then the taxi protocols have changed in the , well long time, since I was flying. And I dont doubt that makes more sense. Only on a couple occasions can I remember being allowed to shoot right to a pad, most of the time it was follow the taxiway or the follow me truck, at least in the controlled areas. But then that was in high traffic military areas, not much interaction with civilians.
To be honest i think the helicotper pilot is to blame for the accident he narrowly avoided.... Yes, his reaction was quick but he should have seen that plane comming down the taxiway if he was keeping a good lookout!
@sstimmyy But shouldn't that plane have been more careful himself? As I see it, the helicopter just landed and is heading back for the hangar or something.
@Werenotinvited The pilot of the plane was alright, The chopper should have given the way to cessna. (The plane was to coming from the right side), it is the same as on the road.
@noox89 plane was taxiing way too fast (shouldn't taxi faster than you can walk unless you are an airline pilot or a fighter pilot)....and you have no way to tell if ground control, the fixed wing airplane or the chopper screwed up without audio and airport layout.
@PortlandViper well that is right, but the no faster than walking speed applies usually for grass airports and student pilots. When you have to taxi 2k to the holding point you would spend hours on the ground taxiing. But still, unless there was a warning from ATC, Cessna pilot had no way of knowing if there was something coming form the left side. high-wing combined with height of the Bell.
@ilovegoatsecks Could do....or you could change it. I don't really care to be honest, t'was nothing more than an observation.
Talking of observations, you missed the ' in you(')re, you spelt 'the' wrong and changed tenses from future to present when speaking of the internet failing. All in all your reply was a bit of a fail. Perhaps you should call Youtube and ask them to recommend some videos on learning English Grammar. Arsehole
Why exactly was the helicopter coming in so low and fast and making sharp turns? Is that standard procedure? I thought they usually come in in a slow and controlled fashion aimed at the landing spot, coming down slowly and gently onto that spot, not whipping along the ground, and maneuvering like an F1 driver.
Either way, both pilots have the responsiblity to "see & avoid" Right away only pertains when both aircraft are either flying or on the ground. The helo was air taxiing (flight) so technically, he has the right away. Im sure the NTSB would find that both pilots were 50% responsible for an incursion, had it happened.
That is true, but it is also true that the aircraft at the lower altitude has right of way.
Technically because they were both in the process of taxiing, the fixed wing has right of way.
It could be argued either way, but if both are in flight, the fixed has right of way. Both on the ground, fixed has right of way if he is on the right. Lower aircraft has right of way, and god knows why the heli was using the runway when he had his own approach to his pad.
@leftbrasil The hold point is going the other way. So the Heli is over the runway and the Cessna is on the taxiway. The heli is attempting to clear the runway. There's not much room there. OK, let's say it is non-towered, give me the FAR/AIM that states the Cessna has the right of way because I'd really like to know. BTW, I can't believe the heli didn't see him either. Probably one of those moments he was distracted by doing something else, then he looked out the window and said "Oh SHIT!".
its called not reporting your position or intentions in your aircraft. for example, helicopter 203LE is clear of the active 16 at ALPHA 2, also he was hover taxiing pretty fast, if your going to go that fast you may as well just air taxi.
It looked like the helicopter just finished the flare on an autorotation(helicopter emergency landing. we practice these all the time.) though the engine didn't sound like it was rolled off and back on during the flare. Most likely the plane didn't radio in and the helicopter didn't see the plane I think
rechts vor links, dummer Helikopterpilot.
karinsmattie 1 week ago
Credit to the helicopter pilot for fast reflexes and skill but the cessna did have the right of way so he would of been at fault had they actually crashed.
Flightkid9 4 weeks ago
awesome skilled pilot i must say.....
TheEpicflyer 1 month ago
The operative word is "incursion".
That may have cost that helo pilot some money.
RedArrow73 1 month ago
at least he put almost crash in the title so why are there dislikes?
supermonkeywtf09 1 month ago
NO this is either a dummy Helicopter pilot or a plane pilot..or even CONTROLLER PROBLEM...
UFOSPACE1999 1 month ago
Bell 407 , Hold short taxiway alpha for traffic. whoops,
bigbull2000 2 months ago
Bell 407 , Hold short taxiway alph,
bigbull2000 2 months ago
Heli was 'taxiing' far too fast, and Cessna had ROW.
khatoum 2 months ago
the name of the pilot was Chuck Norris....!!!
ekab234 2 months ago
that wouldve sucked bad
pentium6xx 2 months ago
In the air, or while taxiing, unless controlled, right hand rule applies. So the 407 should have hold and waited until the cessna passed.
thesupersixfour 2 months ago
Only one of them needs asphalt.
HyperU2 2 months ago
Who's fault was it? They were both in traffic.
mlbdrumsyahoo 2 months ago
Good Pilot...Yes. COMPLETE DUMBASS...Yes
XTROOPER15 2 months ago
cool
MrScarghost141 2 months ago
I bet all the people criticizing the pilot can't even fly a helicopter themselves. LOLOLOL. :D
Aid4nS33rs 2 months ago
Helicopter: "ya ima go down this road now"
Plane: "fuck you, my road"
Helicopter: "FUCK, dude seriously? jackass" *looks at plane dissapointedly*
Plane: "ya, my road"
jrfan07 2 months ago
@jrfan07 lol funny
notar1 2 months ago
bet he almost shit himself. and yes that cessna was taxing to fast. Not the cessna pilots fault but it would have gave him more time to see and avoid if he was going slower..i was trained to taxi no faster than a slow jog.
john198119811 2 months ago
the air controller needs to practise more with Flight Control on iphone
valoryea 2 months ago
@valoryea
did you read the comments at all? There is no air trafic control...
FrostbitexP 2 months ago
@FrostbitexP guess you didn't get the joke....
valoryea 2 months ago
Thats a pretty good helicopter pilot aside from the carlessness
tenacious645 2 months ago
thats a pretty good pilot...opinion
CzEcHmySmOkE 3 months ago 10
@CzEcHmySmOkE No i think a good pilot would have seen that plane long before coming within seconds of impact. Good Manoeuvre at the end though, i bet he shit his pants
Spare14All 2 months ago
@Spare14All very tru...i think good observation is the key to anything
CzEcHmySmOkE 2 months ago
See and avoid plus avoiding the normal flow of fixed wing traffic for helos regardless of any ATC clearance. Pilot-in-Command. FAA catch all.
ragingwoody10 3 months ago
Aka penalty vectors lol
stingercj7 3 months ago
Likeawhispr......I see u are that pilot who not only knows about his aircraft but when u fly in controlled airspace u magically know what the total traffic picture is. In this case as in all imminent danger situations the pilot better do something to avoid it but to say regardless of what ATC says so wrecklessly is going to get u or someone else killed. Common sense applies but that is a arrogant stance. U will waste a lot of fuel flying around in circles waiting to come in being a jerk off.
stingercj7 3 months ago
@stingercj7
I think what he meant was that regardless of what ATC says, a pilot-in-command is responsible for reacting in oposition to ATC instructions if it will put his, or other, aircraft in danger.
Also, in the event of an emergency the pilot-in-command should, again, do what is needed to respond to the situation at hand, yes, REGARDLESS of ATC instructions.
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
Corvette35000..... True, however u really can do whatever u want with a helicopter depending on traffic, pilot skill level, and situation. That's part of a controllers job to see and react ahead of time that if the helicopters tail would be sticking out onto runway for example, adjusting ground traffic before hand is what is needed. Also a smaller aircraft cold have taken some damage from rotor wash. Very dangerous to ground traffic and personnel. I realize this was at an uncontrolled airport.
stingercj7 3 months ago
I now one thing, both pilots had to change their underwear after that! I just read where it is an uncontrolled field, thanks.
stingercj7 3 months ago
Maybe it was an uncontrolled field? Maybe the helicopter pilot was busy hovering and just didn't see him. .? Helicopters can be treated like an airplane or a helicopter, controllers call. Sometimes it's easier to bring them in like an airplane sometimes straight to a specific point. I have seen this exact scenario so many times between 2 airplanes i could not count them all. I've seen a pa28 land over the top of another pa28 holding in position. Even great pilots make mistakes and controllers.
stingercj7 3 months ago
Many of you make good points and those coming at my comment well whatever. I'm not claiming to be an expert on this video but I have seen thousands of examples of screw ups whether it be from controller or pilot. Usually it is the pilot. The controller could have told the other aircraft to hold position, give way to the helicopter, follow the helicopter. Maybe the aircraft was told to taxi to a specific ramp and the pilot missed it. Too many variables to even list.
stingercj7 3 months ago
fuckin sunday drivers
airplanekid77 3 months ago
motherfucker that was close
JoblessDerrick 3 months ago
Old Man in the Unicom was sleeping haha
LafreniereJ 3 months ago
@LafreniereJ UNICOM very rarely, if ever, gives out, or is involved in, ground-traffic situations or reports, excepting aircraft preparing to depart at the end of the runway.
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
@ProChoiceJesus Take a chill Pill their Wanna-Be Pilot. it was a joke.
LafreniereJ 2 months ago
@LafreniereJ Hey, Wanna-Be jokester, This "Wanna-Be Pilot" (me) is a CFII & A&P with a few thousand hours and a very lucrative aviation career.
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
@ProChoiceJesus Pilots like you that give all us Pilots bad names. I dont care about your career. Hey buddy, How do you know if theirs a Pilot at a party? He'll tell ya! haha
LafreniereJ 2 months ago
@LafreniereJ May I ask, what in my reply to stingercj7 pushed your sensitive buttons that you would insult me as a "wanna be pilot?" What is it that I said in my simple explanation of ATC/PIC/Emergencies that would require my ingesting a "chill pill," whatever that is? And, then, how is it in my reply to you that I am now giving pilots "a bad name?" Be specific. I didn't reveal myself as a pilot until you labled me a "wanna-be," without even knowing me. What did I do to you, Lafreniere?
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
@ProChoiceJesus I noticed you said you have a lucrative career as a pilot, and I don't doubt that. Thats why i wanna ask you what do you fly. I'm 21 completely broke and no, to this date, formal flying lessons under my belt. I guess the only question I have is how to get started? and also what would be a good career path to ensure I end up flying for more to insure I don't just get stuck with a license and a ton of debt.
tenacious645 2 months ago
@tenacious645 I am a sheetmetall & structures specialist/mechanic/supervisor at a large aircraft modification & maintenance corporation. I instruct on the side, weekends, and mostly part-time. I love instructing, & am not trying to build hours toward a pilot job, as are many/most flight instructors. I do it to keep flying, and am considering full-time flight instructing as a career move & alternative. There are few flight instructors who love their jobs or want to do it long-term. Continued...
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
@tenacious645 I use the term lucrative in relation to my A&P position.
The main non-military path to those considering pilot careers is; find a 4 year university with a flying bachelor's degree and study like there's no tomorrow. Earn a high GPA, then build your hours instructing. 500-1,000 hours & corporations & airlines will consider you. Unfortunately, it's expensive, so low-interest student loans are the norm. Those who do very well in high school can get scholarships & grants. Continued..
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
A cheaper school is usually not an issue at resume time. Grades, performance & attitude are. I have a nephew who did Baylor University Aviation (very expensive), but since he had a stellar GPA in high school, it cost him little. He rode on scholarships. About a year later, with less than 500 hours, he was in the right seat of a corporation's Sabreliner. He recently moved to Captain on a G-IV, but that's because he was in the right place at the right time, which is also huge in flying careers.
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
You are still young at 21, do not delay if you want to fly for a career. The younger, the better when it comes to university. Don't be discouraged being "completely broke." In America, opportunities to pay for college have few limits. GO FOR IT! Do not squander your 20s like I did. I had aviation college handed to me on a silver platter but goofed off & quit, barely getting my commercial/instrument from my wasted time there. A&P & CFII came much later. Commit your life, 4 years, you CAN do it!
ProChoiceJesus 2 months ago
Bonn Hangelar is an uncontrolled airfield. It's all pilots fault.
0nem1leh1gh 4 months ago 14
Holy shit that was close! Thank god they weren't both planes are this could have turned ugly fast!
uprrslo 4 months ago 2
stupid and blind pilot of chopper
Benjeaour007 4 months ago
@Benjeaour007 You would be too if the sun was right where the cessna was, and if this is an airport with no ATC then the chopper had the right of way because you are supposed to clear the runway for possible traffic behind you.
Airsoftguy1313 4 months ago
@Airsoftguy1313 ok mmm ia ask you, the pilot dont have eyes??
Benjeaour007 4 months ago
@Benjeaour007 Ok, how about this, at your next available opportunity why don't you go look at the sun and tell me if you can see anything else, or drive toward the sun with no sun glasses while it's going down. You can't see, and since the Cessna is high-winged then he probably couldn't see that the heli hadn't held short.
Airsoftguy1313 4 months ago
@Airsoftguy1313 the speed no is correct the runway no is for choppers is for planes because ta position no is correct the airport no is for practice is very dangerous
Benjeaour007 4 months ago
@Airsoftguy1313 Flying a helicopter requires a lot of responsibility and careful enough, it is life and this is no game, that pilot must revoke the license will immediately
Benjeaour007 4 months ago
@Benjeaour007 If I wanted to be lectured about the responsibilites of flying then I would go back to flight school. It was an un-forseen event in which the helicopter pilot was focused enough to have the reflexes to keep from hitting that cessna. If anything it was the plane's fault just as much as the helicopter's.
Airsoftguy1313 4 months ago
he didnt stop at the hold short line
boobyboob69 4 months ago
@boobyboob69 He didn't have to, and that line is for entering the runway, it is rare that an atc would stop you on the opposite side. And if this airport had no ATC the heli had right of way to clear the runway.
Airsoftguy1313 4 months ago
@Airsoftguy1313 oh.. where I fly there is a line for entering the runway and one for entering the perpendicular taxiway
boobyboob69 3 months ago
y dondde cae? infeliz
55515lucas 4 months ago
lol crazy cessna
Maxim499 4 months ago
Nice save
leow626569 4 months ago
they were both going a bit fast and both could see each other pretty clearly. just wow, they both got lucky.
b101aa2 4 months ago
Flyind down taxi-way is generally stupid.
cybermarsactual 4 months ago
@cybermarsactual It's called a hover-taxi...Learn about it.
999lifegoes 4 months ago
@cybermarsactual It's a hover taxi, it's very standard.
Airsoftguy1313 4 months ago
Listen to the youtube experts...
Thor7036 4 months ago
What u all dont see is that the helicopter pilot was temporarily blinded by sun glare....look at the shadows & the position the cessna was coming from....right from the helicopter pilots 2 o' clock postion.....he sees it at the last second as it comes out from the glare.......still he should have held at the holding point......the cessna pilot was perfectly in his rght to taxi thinking that the helicopter pilot had well & truly seen him......they are both very lucky.. Boo to the helo pilot.!!
tatakiboy 4 months ago
I don't know where this is but was it a controlled or uncontrolled airport? If controlled, then the helo would have been told to "contact ground" control. He should not have left the first taxiway without instructions. If its uncontrolled, then the usual "See and Avoid" rule applies.IMO, both were taxiing too fast and both had the opportunity to avoid this "almost" mishap.
mdm172 4 months ago
Im an aviation expert and this was a near miss.
bmwnasher 4 months ago
so fucking stupid
avsvideo100 4 months ago
they're both lucky 2 still b alive!
did somebody say 2 the heli pilot 'try the decaf' ?!
wow there's alot of free airspace there, & heli pilot cruises in like he owns it
nxt time mayb RIP baby..,
think as u fly!!
Render767 5 months ago
That's what you get for pretending to be fixed wing!
ubermarklar 5 months ago
thats in germany hangelar and the controllers are not good in that area
Boeingdude2 5 months ago
@Boeingdude2
AndreasGress 4 months ago
You don't need an air traffic controller to see the plane coming...slow down.
SoCalDualSport 5 months ago
good crash aversion, i wonder if any of the pilots reported this error
PenorBethith 5 months ago
who was wrong?
foxlimacharlie 5 months ago
that cessna's a jerk
combatarmydude 5 months ago
Couldnt see him in the high wing
Thebedofachevy 5 months ago
Both taxing to fast.
andgate2000 5 months ago 27
@andgate2000 taxiing "too fast" had nothing to do with this near accident. This incident could've been avoided if the heli pilot looked both ways before entering an intersection (regardless of instructions). When you drive a car, do you just go through the intersection when your light turns green, or do you look both ways first EVERY TIME you enter an intersection? I look both ways so I don't get killed by the drunk who isn't paying attention. Makes good sense huh? Of course it does.
likeawhispr 3 months ago
Go little helicopter!
AKcharger 5 months ago
Holy s***. Following instructions is one thing, but what ever happened to looking out your windshield to watch where the hell you're going???
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AndreasGress 6 months ago
ohh my God! hahaha
lucaslomelino 6 months ago
heli pilot "FUCKING ASSHOLE"
skibicki357 6 months ago
shittin hell
teramasz 6 months ago
@teramasz Haha
TheSimonHarris 6 months ago
In soviet russia Thats how helicopter hand break works..
Porfavore 6 months ago
@Porfavore Enough with Soviet fucking Russia already. What about Stoke on Trent or something
TheSimonHarris 6 months ago
Helicopter: WTF??!?!?!?!
Cessna: 'Scuse you
FLABandit 6 months ago
helicopters fault didn't stop after the point after the threshold and the cesner had right of way because he was on the right hand side to the helicopter :)
tomthebigcool 6 months ago
@tomthebigcool not threshold the hold short thingy
tomthebigcool 6 months ago
that is a very fast landing......(?) - he's a maverick if you ask me.
incongra 6 months ago
why did the helo need to speed through his landing?
carbongecko 6 months ago
@carbongecko i think he may have practiced an autorotation
basakwards 6 months ago
Missed it by that much
xVRxSiLeNcE 6 months ago
Apparently this pilot doesn't know how to check visually for traffic. Even if he did have clearance beyond the hold short point he should have seen the fixed wing.
Dreddip 6 months ago
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MrFlyguy124 6 months ago
I am an retired controller and there is no way to determine who was at fault by watching this clip. There is no audio and for all we know it could have been the controllers fault. A helicopter can be handled in many many ways or just like a plane taxiing but regardless someone should have been told to hold short of something or to follow etc. If they were told then either helicopter or plane is at fault.
stingercj7 6 months ago 40
@stingercj7 Aircraft vacating always have the right of way, the cessna should have stopped. Regardless that the bell should have seen this coming. Bad airmanship on both sides imho.
litster73 4 months ago
@stingercj7 I agree, but both of them were also taxiing faster than they should have been
osumbuckeyenut 4 months ago
@stingercj7 There is a possibility that this is an airport w/o ATCs. The Heli got clear of the runway almost immediately and got into a low taxi, and when he did clear the runway the sun was on his starboard side and so was the cessna. Now since the Cessna is a high winged aircraft I doubt he saw the helicopter after he turned onto the taxiway. Essentially if this is an airport with no ATC than it is both of their faults, both were taxiing to fast and not paying enough attention.
Airsoftguy1313 4 months ago in playlist AR
@stingercj7 i was told at ground school,right hand traffic gets priority...not correct?
CharlieAlfaPapa 3 months ago
@stingercj7 this is probably at uncontrolled airport.
skysnet 3 months ago
@stingercj7 You're on crack, especially if you're a retired controller... because every licensed P-I-L-O-T knows that it is our job to keep a look out for traffic because every P-I-L-O-T knows that controllers sometimes give wrong directions and it is the PIC's (pilot in command) job to ensure the safety of aircraft/crew at all times. Obviously, in THIS CASE what direction a controller many have given is irrelevant. PIC wasn't looking both ways before crossing the damn street! :) -pilot
likeawhispr 3 months ago
... So whether or not this airport was controlled or not, the pilot of the Jetranger failed to do the most fundamental thing that pilots are suppose to do- watch for traffic! Controlling the aircraft & safety supersedes a controller's instructions! ATC has told me to enter a right down wind when traffic was clearly flying in the opposite direction! Common sense plays an important role. It's MY job to fly the aircraft, pay attention and look out for my aircraft/crew/pax.
likeawhispr 3 months ago
@stingercj7 But you cant wait past the holding point...if he had stopped, he would have been on the runway causing backup, and of course, the smaller plane would continue...but then there would be go-arounds?
Not trying to start an argument, just asking a question:)
Corvette35000 3 months ago
@stingercj7
The chopper made a turn without looking. In my very first PPL lesson the instructor made a big point of making sure I got into the habit of looking out before I made a turn.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
yawn...
dogfight156 6 months ago
helicopters fault , give way to the right, and he should have seen the plane before that
majfunkmeister 6 months ago
why is the helicopter taxing like a plane?. It didnt need to be in harms way. Just fly to landiing point high and then drop it!
spitfire1936 7 months ago
@spitfire1936 helicopters follow the taxiway for ground traffic control purposes.
rwpage76 6 months ago 6
@rwpage76 No they don't. Helicopters do whatever they want. Example (I hear this every single day by the way. I am a helicopter pilot.........) "Helo 1 Bravo Alpha, hover taxi direct Alpha Charlie intersection. Alpha Charlie intersection departure approved" And on arrival I hear, "Hover or Air taxi direct parking, pilots discretion"
tburns7v 5 months ago
@tburns7v Ah, then the taxi protocols have changed in the , well long time, since I was flying. And I dont doubt that makes more sense. Only on a couple occasions can I remember being allowed to shoot right to a pad, most of the time it was follow the taxiway or the follow me truck, at least in the controlled areas. But then that was in high traffic military areas, not much interaction with civilians.
rwpage76 5 months ago
Helicopter hover taxi out of ground effect. Cessna High wing hid heli from view. FAIL on both pilots CLOSE CALL
captjay2008 7 months ago
pilot 0 stars for not seeing the cessna before landing
eelam4u 7 months ago
Didn't the helicopter pilot see the Cessna taxiing?
Amar7605 7 months ago
Clear left, clear right, going lef-FUCK!
Mijitman4914 7 months ago
ooooooooo i think two, no three drops of pee came out...
idejRetsam 7 months ago
Someone almost hit him with a flying washing machine.
QullVideo 7 months ago
The Cessna was taxiing to fast
DominikNeumayr 7 months ago
I'm not a pilot, but I believe the helicopter did seem to be moving along the taxiway a higher rate of speed than would appear prudent. Just say'in.
rickey5353 7 months ago
Woa the helli was doing a beautifull flight... i wish to become a helli pilot
meetyourdoomBRA 7 months ago
I have a new hero after seeing this video
madxico 7 months ago
Pilot 5*****
FabianoBoiadeiro 7 months ago
what the hell was that Cessna doing
Tommyboytomsters 7 months ago
To be honest i think the helicotper pilot is to blame for the accident he narrowly avoided.... Yes, his reaction was quick but he should have seen that plane comming down the taxiway if he was keeping a good lookout!
sstimmyy 7 months ago
@sstimmyy But shouldn't that plane have been more careful himself? As I see it, the helicopter just landed and is heading back for the hangar or something.
zaboon123 7 months ago
ROFL that plane was so ignorant
Werenotinvited 7 months ago
@Werenotinvited The pilot of the plane was alright, The chopper should have given the way to cessna. (The plane was to coming from the right side), it is the same as on the road.
noox89 7 months ago
@noox89 plane was taxiing way too fast (shouldn't taxi faster than you can walk unless you are an airline pilot or a fighter pilot)....and you have no way to tell if ground control, the fixed wing airplane or the chopper screwed up without audio and airport layout.
PortlandViper 7 months ago
@PortlandViper well that is right, but the no faster than walking speed applies usually for grass airports and student pilots. When you have to taxi 2k to the holding point you would spend hours on the ground taxiing. But still, unless there was a warning from ATC, Cessna pilot had no way of knowing if there was something coming form the left side. high-wing combined with height of the Bell.
noox89 7 months ago
lol. nice evasive maneuver. u can bet that chopper pilot was shouting a few choice words.
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AndreasGress 7 months ago
uuhhh traffic control?
Hummermaniac1 8 months ago
That's how they land you idiot
TheEchoAlpha 8 months ago
animal bruto le dieron la licencia en un paquete de papas me refiero al de el avion
mougan35 8 months ago
@mougan35 No necesariamente. Hay que ver si la torre de control autorizo a usar ese taxyway. En todo caso le corresponde el derecho al paso.
chenchomaracatu 8 months ago
@ilovegoatsecks Could do....or you could change it. I don't really care to be honest, t'was nothing more than an observation.
Talking of observations, you missed the ' in you(')re, you spelt 'the' wrong and changed tenses from future to present when speaking of the internet failing. All in all your reply was a bit of a fail. Perhaps you should call Youtube and ask them to recommend some videos on learning English Grammar. Arsehole
WickyWiggstaz 8 months ago
nigga stone ay?! WTF
ScorchConch 8 months ago
Why exactly was the helicopter coming in so low and fast and making sharp turns? Is that standard procedure? I thought they usually come in in a slow and controlled fashion aimed at the landing spot, coming down slowly and gently onto that spot, not whipping along the ground, and maneuvering like an F1 driver.
SamJendo1 8 months ago
@SamJendo1 He was vacating the runway, because, sometimes, believe it or not, helicopters land on runways!
Sinocuan 8 months ago 2
Impressive how quickly helicopters can stop and turn.
Rambowjo2 8 months ago
afternoon nap for the Cessna pilot...WTF!!!!
jeff122670 8 months ago
really skillful pilot !!
hakanikus 8 months ago
god damn you trump
bed792 8 months ago
lol
rodolphorgcf 8 months ago
Plane had right-of-way cause was on the right side of heli ^^
834v15 8 months ago
Good attentiveness on the heli pilots part, and great reaction...
RobinApprentice 8 months ago 3
super profecional el controlador de vuelo. para correrlo
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AndreasGress 8 months ago
dang... people are still arguing over this video?!?!
22640cal 8 months ago
Either way, both pilots have the responsiblity to "see & avoid" Right away only pertains when both aircraft are either flying or on the ground. The helo was air taxiing (flight) so technically, he has the right away. Im sure the NTSB would find that both pilots were 50% responsible for an incursion, had it happened.
ColtDeltaElite10mm 8 months ago
@ColtDeltaElite10mm
That is true, but it is also true that the aircraft at the lower altitude has right of way.
Technically because they were both in the process of taxiing, the fixed wing has right of way.
It could be argued either way, but if both are in flight, the fixed has right of way. Both on the ground, fixed has right of way if he is on the right. Lower aircraft has right of way, and god knows why the heli was using the runway when he had his own approach to his pad.
DJK290 8 months ago
The helicopter MUST stop at hold point. The airplane has the right of pass (Law). Airplane is right.
leftbrasil 8 months ago 2
Not necessarily. 1, there's no hold short line. 2, we have no idea what the controller's instructions were.
TheTopBloke 8 months ago
@TheTopBloke 1, At 0:23 we have a clear view of the Hold point. 2, probably non-controlled airport.
And another point: the helicoper pilot doesn't seen the cessna taxing ?!?!?!
Another: By the law, the airplane that has the other one on his left, has the right of pass.
leftbrasil 8 months ago
@leftbrasil The hold point is going the other way. So the Heli is over the runway and the Cessna is on the taxiway. The heli is attempting to clear the runway. There's not much room there. OK, let's say it is non-towered, give me the FAR/AIM that states the Cessna has the right of way because I'd really like to know. BTW, I can't believe the heli didn't see him either. Probably one of those moments he was distracted by doing something else, then he looked out the window and said "Oh SHIT!".
TheTopBloke 8 months ago
@TheTopBloke Afternoon nap for the air traffic controller maybe?
ao2k3productions 8 months ago
WTF was that pilot trying to do??
wojtuniakfrog 8 months ago
its called not reporting your position or intentions in your aircraft. for example, helicopter 203LE is clear of the active 16 at ALPHA 2, also he was hover taxiing pretty fast, if your going to go that fast you may as well just air taxi.
jray0079 8 months ago
he wasnt going to crash he was evading the other aircraft and it looks like he was sure of that menuvure and was on total control!!!!
jomarsexygod 8 months ago
lol how the fuck can't you see a plane taking off these pilots are supposed to be professional =L
owenjeffreys1994 8 months ago
@owenjeffreys1994 The plane is not taking off. the plane is on the taxiway.
TheTopBloke 8 months ago
@TheTopBloke it is still going fast
owenjeffreys1994 8 months ago
landing traffic always has precedent over taxiing traffic, fuckin fixed wing private pilots
TheGibsonbird 9 months ago
@TheGibsonbird bitter much?
TheTopBloke 8 months ago
that guy has teckkkeerrrsss
Iamthestig07 9 months ago
Who's fault is this??????
tswjxeem 9 months ago
@tswjxeem Helicopter pilot....it was his fault. He disobeyed the traffic laws and precedence....shit happens XD
lesperancager 9 months ago
Totally, the helicopter pilot's fault.
nocalsteve 9 months ago
Those crazy neighborhood kids stole the stop sign again.
OPEN YOUR EYES!!! Both pilots looking inside and not out.
kmbertonazzi 9 months ago
It looked like the helicopter just finished the flare on an autorotation(helicopter emergency landing. we practice these all the time.) though the engine didn't sound like it was rolled off and back on during the flare. Most likely the plane didn't radio in and the helicopter didn't see the plane I think
91Ethman 9 months ago
stu pilot
goodguynamesical 9 months ago
Pilot thinks its a plane the way he is landing lol
07syrahman 9 months ago