Bohemund, the history where pointed that Altyn Orda (Golden Horde) was province of Mongolians is wrong. Russians changed the history, to falsificate the truth.
We know history of this land much better, because we are child of great Shyngys Khan (Ginghiz khan) who was emperor of this lands.
originally turks had no ties with netiher mongols nor persians. if you look at Siberian turks (yakuts, tuvas) - they look like mongols. If look at turks in Turkey - those look more like persians. Kazaks, Uzbeks, Turkmens live between Siberia and Persia and they look both Persian and mongol! But originally turks are from Siberia - this is where the most ancient turk writings were found.
Maybe I can try and solve your problem. Turks are maybe more Mongolian, because all Mongoloid nations originated in present-day Mongolia. Turks are Turanids the link between Caucasians and Mongoloids.
Batu khan was Kazakh? Lol. It is one of the myths about the Chinese, Turk, Japanese, Ukranian, Vietnam, Nepal and Finnish origins of Batu khan. Modern kazakhs are the decendants of Kipchaks who allied with Russians and Persians against Chingis khaan in XIII century.
batu khan was kazakh(fact) and he had much kipchak intellegenc in palace. but not all kazakh are kipchak. that is ca 5-10% in north.we have more mongol tribes.but we think that is kazakh tribes))
Alright time to clean this shit up. First of all, Chingghis Khan and Batu Khan were Mongols. Why? Because they called themselves Mongols because it was the MONGOL EMPIRE. Many ancestors of Kazaks during that time also called themselves MONGOLS. The Golden Horde was one of the sections of the empire given to the descendants of Genghis Khan. Kazaks only became Kazaks in the 15th century, before then, it was all about the MONGOL EMPIRE!
Man im Turk, and I wonder why many of you "turks" in Turkey look like arabic or middle eastern, cuz we Uzbeks are white, and the reason that i can speak turkish is because i lived in Turkey 1 year, in addition uzbek language is quite like turkish
no they definitely aren't. genkhiz khan killed millions of turks,carved pregnant womens stomachs,put unborn babies to sticks.mongols are the most discusting army on earth. when turks was all together in middle asia,(Mete Khan era)there were mongol tribes living apart from huns,so they are not rukish at all
Yes, Djengiz Khan was cruel, but who did begin the war? Aladin Muhammed began first by killing mongol diplomats and slaughter them, just to prove Djengiz Khan his strength. In this war, i think the real Turk was Djengiz Khan and his army, because in those times the Kwarezm had many persian people.
The guy says: Tatars, Bashkirs, Karachays, Kazakhs and etc, we are all backward Neanderthals with only post-1991 history who like to steal from other nations.
This formerly nomadic country that sprawls nearly 2,000 miles across the middle of Central Asia is rich in culture,tradition and spirituality that dates back thousands of years.Until recently, it was little known outside the begion because it lost much of its identity and heritage under the 70-year domination by the Soviet Union, and before that, the Russian Empire. Since independence in 1991 Kazakhstan is reestablishing its own identity.
Bohemund we all now that hungarys father is Atilla the Hun, who actually came from Central Asia, and invaded ur Europe, assaulted your mum, so you could be born and become a citizen of (Hun)gary
Hungarians descend from Ugric peoples. So Hungarians rode horses. So what? Now Hungary is a modern and civilized nation. While you remained savage Neanderthals who only know murder, loot and rape.
Maybe Bohemund, perhaps its true that we are known for looting and raping, but we had also great army and healthy life style, which u Europeans dont have. U are maybe civilized, inventing the parfume and all that.
Kazanskie tatary, bashkiry, sibirskie tatary, kargashy, krymskie tatary, karaimy, krymchaki, karachaevcy, balkarcy(tauly), nogaycy, kumyki,kazahi, karakalpaki, kirgizy, vengerskie kipchaki! Hot' my vse antropologicheski i raznimsya, ne zabyvayte chto vse my iz roda polovetskogo...
Ya sam kazakh, no nazyvat' Batu-Khan'a kazahom, myagko skazat' ne politkorrektno... Hotya nash folklor i pestrit takimi nazvaniyami kak naprimer "Krym", "Tana"-Don,"Azau"-Azov, "Kazan'" i t.d. Kazahskiy han Janibek byl u istokov obrazovaniya kazahov, no eto ne meshalo emu postroit gorod Astrahan' i umeret' v Krymu.
Alexander Nevsky, really has concluded the union with Batu Khan. But it has happened only when Germans have begun approach to Baltic, and then to Pskov and Novgorod. This union was military-political, to struggle against pressing with West. As a result - there where russians asked help from Tatars, the great Russia has grown. There where they have agreed on submission, in Galicia for example they have turned to slaves
It's quite off-topic from the original theme, but let's deal with your idiotic chat, so fitting for your Neolithic mentality.
It is the other way around? Galicia was a free country, while Muscovy became a slave ditch. Galicia had all the Western European privileges, including the Magdeburg law, individual freedoms something that in the dreaded East nobody heard.
Look at former Hapsburg Slovenia, Slovakia and Croatia. They develop at the speed of light. They are in the European Union. Have you been to Western Ukraine or Western Belarus? The people are very free, liberal and tolerant. And what's with former Muscovy and former Ottoman Bulgaria, Serbia and Albania? The backwardness and savagery grandiose, just because the likes of you spoiled them.
All postmongolian churches and cathedrals have been survived, there is even a tourist route "The Golden ring of Russia", including visiting Vladimir, Suzdal, Kostroma, Yaroslavl, Ryazan, Murom. Where the Russian monuments which have seen the Polish and German intrusions?
What! The Golden Horde was the province of the Mongolian empire. Lord Bat was Mongolian. It is only later that the Golden Horde was corrupted by the Turkic tomfool savages. Learn history, you, miscreants.
You're particularly right, but far from the truth. It's still a theme for debades,was Batu's father a mongol himself.His mother was kidnapped by some turkic(notice,not turkish)tribe.At this time she became pregnant.Chenghiz Khan fought back his woman,so their is a possibility that Juchi(greatest son) was not a real son of Chenghiz.Juchi's mother herself was also from turkic tribe.May be that's why Juchi ruled the farest western teritories.
A Kazakh fervently grasps even to this dubious moment to steal some other nation's history. You guys only start at 1991. Go steal somewhere else, Neolithic savages.
In 1991, Kazakhstan has got the desiried independence. Before kazakhs were always part of the history for 6 centuries...Before we were mongols, because after sometime word "mongol" became polyethnonim, before we were kipchaks, which also became, not ethnonim, but polyethnonim with time. All nowadays kazakh tribes were living in area of Desht-i-Kipchak. Go learn history, all empires in this area was under influence of our common tribes.
What's your point? You claim that nowadays mongols are those mongols who lives in Mongolia? You know nothing about Great Steppe History...As it is part of mongilian history, so it is part of our history. Did you know that the right to rule kazakhs had chinghizids, or descendants of Lord Chinghiz? All our khans had his blood in their vines.
Territory from the Altai mountains till Black sea including nowadays Ukraine was called "Desht-i Kipchak". Meaning country of Kipchaks(polovtsy,kuman).These people of turkic nature were already inhabiting terrains which later would be conquered by Chinghizids. When they came to Deshti-Kipchak, they were so few(1 on 100) that were easily assimilated by kipchaks. Golden Horde began to lose its strentgh after Uzbek Khan.
No wonder that the Golden Horde lost its power after a Turkic savage Uzbeg. You guys fornicate like vermin and have atavistic mindsets that corrupts states and nations.
Uzbeg was mongol or descendant of Chingiz Khan. Golden Horde began to lose its powers because Khan Uzbek Accepted Islam as an official religion. Just in his environment were slaughtered about 70 of his relatives of other religions,who were against till the end...There began collisions between orthodox people. Such an examples you are able to see everywhere, when the religion plays a big role in politics...It ain't our mindsets. Which satates and nations are you talking about?
In a metaphorical plot of the Kazakh epos "Kipchak Koblandy" is expressed destiny of kypchaks. Batyr Koblandy is mighty and generous. He tries to assist to everybody. He goes far away to help other nations in their struggles. The only person he couldn't protect was himself. When he came back from last campaign, Koblandy has found his home plundered. The wife and its children were taken away by unknown enemies. He is a representation of turkic people...
:) If you dare to speak abpou Golden Hord you have to learn our history first! From original sourses! Im not going to say that Gengiz-Han himself was Kazak by blood, but Im claiming that his son Djuchi was born by Kazak women! That is why Djuchi took DEshti-Kipchk "Kazak steps" the bigest and the most important part of huge empire of GengisHan! Not only by blood but also by culture Dzhuchi was very Kazak!
Dzhuchi was very Kazak! He was speaking Kazak language living in Kazak way and his wives and sans respectively were also Kazaks! No any doubt that Batu Han was real Kazak man!
This Kazak pithecanthrope is pretty bold to deviate history in order to bring his bastard herd some glimpse of great glory of others. You are pathetic, unevolved swine.
My friend it smells bad from you. Educate yoursefl, do not be like a most americans who even doesn't know who is his or her father. Be proud of your ancestors disrespectful moron and balbes :).
Pover bratishka, my budem zhit lutshe! Ne vsyo srazu!
A ryadovoi Kazakstanets uzhe seichas zhivyot lutshe ryadovogo rossiyanina! Ya ne govoryu za Moskvu ili Abromovicha! Ya govoryu za srednij klass! Priezhai posmotri esli ne verish!
Da ladno! kakoi tam vodoprovod v novgorode! :) V Otrare, Taraze, Balasagune, i drugih drevne Kazakskih gorodah vodoprovod byl i eto podtverzhdaetsa istoricheskimi ostankami! A novgorod? :) Razve chto esli Tatary ili Bashkiri postroili! :)
interesno.....)
MrAlmatynez 1 week ago
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MrAlmatynez 1 week ago
неге бізде сондай көрме өтпей жатыр? Ол біздін тарихіміз ғой
aizhan1001 7 months ago
Вы, что бля охуели пидоры русские? Прятали немытые волосы под шапкой. Это вы никогда не мылись суки
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Zer0KZ 8 months ago
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Zer0KZ 8 months ago
Bohemund, the history where pointed that Altyn Orda (Golden Horde) was province of Mongolians is wrong. Russians changed the history, to falsificate the truth.
We know history of this land much better, because we are child of great Shyngys Khan (Ginghiz khan) who was emperor of this lands.
max1989x1 1 year ago
Turkler, Kipchak turkler.
Altin Orda "Ulus Zhoshi" - 1st Qazaq state, Qazaq khanate "Qazaq handigi" - 2nd Qazaq state, Alash Orda - 3rd Qazaq state, Repoblic of Kazakhstan - 4th Qazaq state!!!
Taniri Qazaqti korgasin!!!
Taniri Turku korusun!!
kazakamerican 3 years ago 7
TURKS ARE ASIAN PEOPLE
AZER1FIGHTER 3 years ago
操你妈的，俄罗斯足狗！用哈萨克语吧！
HASTER001 3 years ago
Hey people don't u know that Kazan is the capital of Tatarstan!
This video is talking about tatars people and culture!!Not about Kazak,Turkic people!!
khasanovaYuliya 3 years ago
This vidio is not about Kazan han but Golden Orda.
bas2030 3 years ago
This is about golden horde not a part of kazakhstan history.
XiaDynasty 3 years ago
turks not never mongol or fars
tarafe 4 years ago
turks not never fars or mongol
tarafe 4 years ago
originally turks had no ties with netiher mongols nor persians. if you look at Siberian turks (yakuts, tuvas) - they look like mongols. If look at turks in Turkey - those look more like persians. Kazaks, Uzbeks, Turkmens live between Siberia and Persia and they look both Persian and mongol! But originally turks are from Siberia - this is where the most ancient turk writings were found.
RTTabyn 4 years ago
Mongols are turks they alive turks about BC 3000 years. Their language is too different from ours.
djkadirtube 4 years ago
you wrong,,,turks are mongols!!
papcyrill 4 years ago
No. Turks are closer to Persians.
Ikhsteppe 4 years ago
Maybe I can try and solve your problem. Turks are maybe more Mongolian, because all Mongoloid nations originated in present-day Mongolia. Turks are Turanids the link between Caucasians and Mongoloids.
Gewaldro 3 years ago
Kazakhs are people with Iranian and Turkish origin, and their language belongs to Turkic.
Ikhsteppe 4 years ago
Kazakhs are only turkic origin. Not farsi. They are %100 percent turkic.
djkadirtube 4 years ago
Batu khan was Kazakh? Lol. It is one of the myths about the Chinese, Turk, Japanese, Ukranian, Vietnam, Nepal and Finnish origins of Batu khan. Modern kazakhs are the decendants of Kipchaks who allied with Russians and Persians against Chingis khaan in XIII century.
Ikhsteppe 4 years ago
batu khan was kazakh(fact) and he had much kipchak intellegenc in palace. but not all kazakh are kipchak. that is ca 5-10% in north.we have more mongol tribes.but we think that is kazakh tribes))
reagestme 2 years ago
Понял сам что сказал? Вот так вот подрастающее поколение учит историю.
Vimpel969 2 years ago
Alright time to clean this shit up. First of all, Chingghis Khan and Batu Khan were Mongols. Why? Because they called themselves Mongols because it was the MONGOL EMPIRE. Many ancestors of Kazaks during that time also called themselves MONGOLS. The Golden Horde was one of the sections of the empire given to the descendants of Genghis Khan. Kazaks only became Kazaks in the 15th century, before then, it was all about the MONGOL EMPIRE!
Plastikglass 4 years ago 2
oh, come on!!! what u talking about guys, Zolotaya Orda, i chingiz han sovershnno raznie ve6i!!!
Akziyuha 5 years ago
what language is this? hangi dil?
Neferkal 5 years ago
rusca, im uzbek but can speak turkish
shadyXX89 5 years ago
what language uzbeks speak? and do you consider yourselves as turkish?
Neferkal 5 years ago
Man im Turk, and I wonder why many of you "turks" in Turkey look like arabic or middle eastern, cuz we Uzbeks are white, and the reason that i can speak turkish is because i lived in Turkey 1 year, in addition uzbek language is quite like turkish
shadyXX89 5 years ago
i wonder why many of uzbeks look like mongols
Neferkal 5 years ago
Man u cant history! Have you heard about Mongol Empire? Or Timurid Empire? Because Mongols ARE turks
shadyXX89 5 years ago
no they definitely aren't. genkhiz khan killed millions of turks,carved pregnant womens stomachs,put unborn babies to sticks.mongols are the most discusting army on earth. when turks was all together in middle asia,(Mete Khan era)there were mongol tribes living apart from huns,so they are not rukish at all
Neferkal 5 years ago
Yes, Djengiz Khan was cruel, but who did begin the war? Aladin Muhammed began first by killing mongol diplomats and slaughter them, just to prove Djengiz Khan his strength. In this war, i think the real Turk was Djengiz Khan and his army, because in those times the Kwarezm had many persian people.
shadyXX89 5 years ago
no they were just cruel .turks were never cruel.they are not turks!
Neferkal 5 years ago
Privet! CAn any Kazakh or Russian person translate this to me please? Spacibo!
Killah421 5 years ago
The guy says: Tatars, Bashkirs, Karachays, Kazakhs and etc, we are all backward Neanderthals with only post-1991 history who like to steal from other nations.
Bohemund 5 years ago
This formerly nomadic country that sprawls nearly 2,000 miles across the middle of Central Asia is rich in culture,tradition and spirituality that dates back thousands of years.Until recently, it was little known outside the begion because it lost much of its identity and heritage under the 70-year domination by the Soviet Union, and before that, the Russian Empire. Since independence in 1991 Kazakhstan is reestablishing its own identity.
debashir 5 years ago
It is not true! Guy you are Hungarian and I do not think you understand the language.
Killah421 5 years ago
It is not true! I even doubt if you understood any of the speech. You are Hungarian and I do not think you understood the speech.
Killah421 5 years ago
Bohemund we all now that hungarys father is Atilla the Hun, who actually came from Central Asia, and invaded ur Europe, assaulted your mum, so you could be born and become a citizen of (Hun)gary
shadyXX89 5 years ago
Hungarians descend from Ugric peoples. So Hungarians rode horses. So what? Now Hungary is a modern and civilized nation. While you remained savage Neanderthals who only know murder, loot and rape.
Bohemund 5 years ago
Maybe Bohemund, perhaps its true that we are known for looting and raping, but we had also great army and healthy life style, which u Europeans dont have. U are maybe civilized, inventing the parfume and all that.
shadyXX89 5 years ago
Privet! Can any Russian or Kazakh person translate this to me? Spacibo!
Killah421 5 years ago
Kazanskie tatary, bashkiry, sibirskie tatary, kargashy, krymskie tatary, karaimy, krymchaki, karachaevcy, balkarcy(tauly), nogaycy, kumyki,kazahi, karakalpaki, kirgizy, vengerskie kipchaki! Hot' my vse antropologicheski i raznimsya, ne zabyvayte chto vse my iz roda polovetskogo...
Sakhabin 5 years ago
Ya sam kazakh, no nazyvat' Batu-Khan'a kazahom, myagko skazat' ne politkorrektno... Hotya nash folklor i pestrit takimi nazvaniyami kak naprimer "Krym", "Tana"-Don,"Azau"-Azov, "Kazan'" i t.d. Kazahskiy han Janibek byl u istokov obrazovaniya kazahov, no eto ne meshalo emu postroit gorod Astrahan' i umeret' v Krymu.
Sakhabin 5 years ago
Alexander Nevsky, really has concluded the union with Batu Khan. But it has happened only when Germans have begun approach to Baltic, and then to Pskov and Novgorod. This union was military-political, to struggle against pressing with West. As a result - there where russians asked help from Tatars, the great Russia has grown. There where they have agreed on submission, in Galicia for example they have turned to slaves
debashir 5 years ago
It's quite off-topic from the original theme, but let's deal with your idiotic chat, so fitting for your Neolithic mentality.
It is the other way around? Galicia was a free country, while Muscovy became a slave ditch. Galicia had all the Western European privileges, including the Magdeburg law, individual freedoms something that in the dreaded East nobody heard.
Bohemund 5 years ago
Look at former Hapsburg Slovenia, Slovakia and Croatia. They develop at the speed of light. They are in the European Union. Have you been to Western Ukraine or Western Belarus? The people are very free, liberal and tolerant. And what's with former Muscovy and former Ottoman Bulgaria, Serbia and Albania? The backwardness and savagery grandiose, just because the likes of you spoiled them.
Bohemund 5 years ago
Siz sa olun
hiburak 5 years ago
All postmongolian churches and cathedrals have been survived, there is even a tourist route "The Golden ring of Russia", including visiting Vladimir, Suzdal, Kostroma, Yaroslavl, Ryazan, Murom. Where the Russian monuments which have seen the Polish and German intrusions?
debashir 5 years ago
What! The Golden Horde was the province of the Mongolian empire. Lord Bat was Mongolian. It is only later that the Golden Horde was corrupted by the Turkic tomfool savages. Learn history, you, miscreants.
Bohemund 5 years ago
hahaha you funny guy))) LOL, I herd more funny story)))
Zhalair 5 years ago
You're particularly right, but far from the truth. It's still a theme for debades,was Batu's father a mongol himself.His mother was kidnapped by some turkic(notice,not turkish)tribe.At this time she became pregnant.Chenghiz Khan fought back his woman,so their is a possibility that Juchi(greatest son) was not a real son of Chenghiz.Juchi's mother herself was also from turkic tribe.May be that's why Juchi ruled the farest western teritories.
debashir 5 years ago
A Kazakh fervently grasps even to this dubious moment to steal some other nation's history. You guys only start at 1991. Go steal somewhere else, Neolithic savages.
Bohemund 5 years ago
In 1991, Kazakhstan has got the desiried independence. Before kazakhs were always part of the history for 6 centuries...Before we were mongols, because after sometime word "mongol" became polyethnonim, before we were kipchaks, which also became, not ethnonim, but polyethnonim with time. All nowadays kazakh tribes were living in area of Desht-i-Kipchak. Go learn history, all empires in this area was under influence of our common tribes.
debashir 5 years ago
What's your point? You claim that nowadays mongols are those mongols who lives in Mongolia? You know nothing about Great Steppe History...As it is part of mongilian history, so it is part of our history. Did you know that the right to rule kazakhs had chinghizids, or descendants of Lord Chinghiz? All our khans had his blood in their vines.
debashir 5 years ago
Territory from the Altai mountains till Black sea including nowadays Ukraine was called "Desht-i Kipchak". Meaning country of Kipchaks(polovtsy,kuman).These people of turkic nature were already inhabiting terrains which later would be conquered by Chinghizids. When they came to Deshti-Kipchak, they were so few(1 on 100) that were easily assimilated by kipchaks. Golden Horde began to lose its strentgh after Uzbek Khan.
debashir 5 years ago
No wonder that the Golden Horde lost its power after a Turkic savage Uzbeg. You guys fornicate like vermin and have atavistic mindsets that corrupts states and nations.
Bohemund 5 years ago
Uzbeg was mongol or descendant of Chingiz Khan. Golden Horde began to lose its powers because Khan Uzbek Accepted Islam as an official religion. Just in his environment were slaughtered about 70 of his relatives of other religions,who were against till the end...There began collisions between orthodox people. Such an examples you are able to see everywhere, when the religion plays a big role in politics...It ain't our mindsets. Which satates and nations are you talking about?
debashir 5 years ago
In a metaphorical plot of the Kazakh epos "Kipchak Koblandy" is expressed destiny of kypchaks. Batyr Koblandy is mighty and generous. He tries to assist to everybody. He goes far away to help other nations in their struggles. The only person he couldn't protect was himself. When he came back from last campaign, Koblandy has found his home plundered. The wife and its children were taken away by unknown enemies. He is a representation of turkic people...
debashir 5 years ago
:) If you dare to speak abpou Golden Hord you have to learn our history first! From original sourses! Im not going to say that Gengiz-Han himself was Kazak by blood, but Im claiming that his son Djuchi was born by Kazak women! That is why Djuchi took DEshti-Kipchk "Kazak steps" the bigest and the most important part of huge empire of GengisHan! Not only by blood but also by culture Dzhuchi was very Kazak!
Beibarys 5 years ago
Dzhuchi was very Kazak! He was speaking Kazak language living in Kazak way and his wives and sans respectively were also Kazaks! No any doubt that Batu Han was real Kazak man!
Beibarys 5 years ago
This Kazak pithecanthrope is pretty bold to deviate history in order to bring his bastard herd some glimpse of great glory of others. You are pathetic, unevolved swine.
Bohemund 5 years ago
My friend it smells bad from you. Educate yoursefl, do not be like a most americans who even doesn't know who is his or her father. Be proud of your ancestors disrespectful moron and balbes :).
talker1975 5 years ago
Pover bratishka, my budem zhit lutshe! Ne vsyo srazu!
A ryadovoi Kazakstanets uzhe seichas zhivyot lutshe ryadovogo rossiyanina! Ya ne govoryu za Moskvu ili Abromovicha! Ya govoryu za srednij klass! Priezhai posmotri esli ne verish!
Beibarys 5 years ago
po4itay pro vodoprovod v Nogorode. aga....
MeesNukk 5 years ago
Da ladno! kakoi tam vodoprovod v novgorode! :) V Otrare, Taraze, Balasagune, i drugih drevne Kazakskih gorodah vodoprovod byl i eto podtverzhdaetsa istoricheskimi ostankami! A novgorod? :) Razve chto esli Tatary ili Bashkiri postroili! :)
Zhalair 5 years ago
a 4ego vi tak ploho zivete, esli samiye luchie?
MeesNukk 5 years ago
shataskanmyn goj))) nu vse ravno znachit koment poiavilsia )))
Zhalair 5 years ago
))) komenty ubral))))
Zhalair 5 years ago
Salem! Jogi!!! Comments bolgan jok! Nebylo commentov!
Beibarys 5 years ago