This is the kind of engine they use in the Predartor drones. They run at low rpm with alot of torque. It allows the propeller to be attached without needing reduction gears.
Looks like that drive plate (for lack of a better term) undergoes a great deal of friction. How is the heat transferred? Through the shaft bearings? Perhaps an oil system with a heat-exchanger?
@Cudaman65 they are not fuel efficient, nor very practical in most cases but for the displacement vs power and torque output they are amazing. try to get the same amount of power out of an equivalent sized NA piston engine without any huge modifications, its pretty hard to do.
@tthhnnee well, i don't know why -- wankels just aren't as fuel efficient as regular piston engines. something to do with the combustion chamber geometry and the way the rotor moves. I'm not sure.
@pushitgently001p do you think it would be more efficient than the mazda rotary engine? seems like it may not be since it still has up and down pistons, unlike the wenkle engine design ,some sort of hybrid design may e even better of those 2
@remember25october Может быть и так, кстати, где-то показывали нашу маленькую торпеду, так вот там стояло нечто похожее, но только 4 цилиндра и все они были с одной стороны (от упомянутой шайбы). Мощность того двигателя сравнивали с КамАЗом. Да, я тут немного потролю :-) Самый лучший двигатель - это РПД (роторно-поршневой двигатель Ванкеля) ИМХО
ICE cars are losing ground to EVs. There is no inexpensive way to continue to produce fuels to run engines. If we try to make fuel from corn or other crops, for instance, it drives up the cost of food, and even if all crop land in the country were used to produce fuel crops, it could not provide enuf fuel to power all our cars. But EVs can be powered cleanly by solar panels on the roofs of our homes and businesses-- no oil money for all the dangerous regimes in Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc.
@billdale1 That sounds great, but the cost to build and maintain EV's is still far greater than ICE engines, and will remain so for at least another decade or two. Solar Panels are also a zero return, they cost more to produce on average than the return you get from them during their lifespan. Not to mention that Solar Panels require the use of a PM that is not going to get cheaper, or easier to find in the next 10 years.
File this engine in the same category as the Zoche aero diesels. There was another compay - dynacam that made a bunch of noise regarding the engine and then went away. Give this company a little time and it will fail as well.
@ fatnuts: As for EVs being "dirty", no way of powering a vehicle is 100% clean, but when all factors R considered, EVs r the cleanest-- it takes electricity to produce gasoline from crude, and u can druve farther on the electricity used to make the gasoline if you use it to drive an EV than u can using it to power an ICE car!
Also, an EV gets its energy delivered cleanly, very efficiently, by grid. ICE cars have 2 have their gasoline delivered by big, noisy, inefficient tanker trucks. (cont'd)
@fatnuts-- glad to see you pay attention to such things as air motors, but they have extremely limited range that cannot be overcome with high tech, and they are very inefficient-- when compressing any gas you ger heat... if u pump air enough it becomes a liquid, but the harder you pump it the more energy you lose as heat. Terribly inefficient. And an air motor cannot give u as much range as today's EVs.
Sorry, fellas, "swash plate "engines have been around for more than 50 years-- they are still reciprocating, and therefore inefficient--all have failed for the same reason... if they could have been practical they should have been produced decades ago, not now that petroleum is running out and electric vehicles are the obvious answer to replace reciprocating engines. Please don't waste your time, and don't distract everyone from clean, efficient, simple, electric motor-driven cars.
@billdale1 but elecs arn't that green when the power companys are burning coal and rubish to make the power for these elec cars to be charged up every night, and they say about hybrids, but do you know how much energy goes in to just making the batterys for them, theres and tata being made in india the is powered by compressed air
I like the concept, however, in it's current design, the pistons will not operate the rotating plate like the animation shows. you would need a steeper angle on the plate.
@readyxxi otherway round, experimental engines of this type have existed since the 1800s as steam engines, but yes, most car AC compressors are of that design or similar.
Basically a pump & an engine are the same thing, any concept that works as a pump can be made to work as an engine & vice versa.
It will be busy schedule to produce this engine well balanced. Besides crankshaft has large friction surfaces and relatively short stroke to be efficient. But the idea absolutely brilliant
Thats wonderful but what are you using as Fuel??? I would prefer the Magnetic Engine because it never runs out of Fuel. Its as strong as the Magnetic Force of the Engine. It creates electricity to power the car's engine ... Free Electric Power ... Tesla's Inventions ....
Get a copy of Jane's Military Ships or one of the other weapons books. This type of engine is found in the torpedos of various nations. I have heard of a Soviet fish that would do over 100 Knots on one of these.
Good concept, but impractical unless it was a two stroke, and then i think the harmonic inefficiencies of this motor would prevent the RPM needed to make the horsepower. There isnt enough mechanical leverage or weight in this design to make good low end torque. Im just a mechanic, but yeah, this is wishful thinking. Nice animation though lol!!!
God must have invented the piston because few designs ever dont include a piston. I invented an engine similar to this the whole idea is to maximize energy from the piston to the wheel with the fewest gear interchanges that reduce efficiency. Ideally it would be better to have an engine on every wheel maximizing efficiency by turning the wheel directly. What a beautiful thing a redundant 2 wheel engine system.
Not a new design by any means. The U.S. Mk 48 series heavyweight torpedoes use a swashplate engine very similar to this that runs on OTTO 2 monopropellant fuel. The cylindrical shape has obvious advantages for torpedo use.
i think its very good design , it wont take much space and it would produce lotsa power, but if water jackets are added to ensure coolness it would perfect
@ryansnider basically, only in reverse. the cylinders are driving the plate, in a compressor you rotate the swash-plate to compress the cylinder(s) charge.
Lycoming made exactly that in 1951,inertia killed the syn curve crank and they couldn't keep the cylinders round,uneven thermal loss.....most idea's reservist every 40-50 years......
there is no worm-gear arrangement that I can see. it looks like a big A/C compressor-swash plate. actually functions quite well. anyone using the A/C in their car probably has one of these compressor designs. its just very inefficient. swash plate has much less mechanical leverage than a crank & rod. thats why you add cylinders to increase efficiency .but it absolutely works.
The critics here are only egotists trying to prove they are smart ( we know it already, you do not need to prove it). I wish they had helpful, useful comments. Any flaws with the design can be overcome. Instead of saying it will not work, please make positive suggestions. Work together. A community. Together we stand, divided we fall. That is how society advances, not fighting and bickering amongst ourselves
There is a lot of friction in this engine.....and I'm not only talking about the drive to the swashplate. The "pistons" have an incredible amount of sideways pressure on them.....all the torque this engine produces pushes the pistons hard against the sides of the cylinders..... and it will have a lot of torque as it's basically geared down internally.
i wished you did an exploded assemble of the system as to show how parts fit together etc. Anyhow it's great but what's the efficiency of this, do you know?
Such a shame that so much effort gets wasted on schemes like this. Sure, it can run. Does it bring anything new to the table - NO! It runs std 4-stroke OTTO cycle, with all the inefficiencies, emissions, etc. The only advantage is density, but today's engines are "small enough" .The wankel, MYT, quasi-turbine, many others - all the same failing...although many of these others have claims that pass the line into fraud. What matters is the GAS processes, not unusual mechanisms.
If the designers of this engine first dived into history, and explored why cars dont have worm gears in the rear end anymore, they might discover that this design will have too much friction as it basically is a worm gear....
@RenzeZielman Not strictly true. Ever heard of the Michell slipper pad (used in the the Michell Axial Swashplate engine of 1920) ? If this design had those then friction would be quite low despite the pressure
And it's been used in IC engines before with varying degrees of success, starting in the early 1910s. A couple other engine inventors also incorporate a swashplate instead of the conventional crank.
@RenzeZielman The pistons in this engine have rollers that ride the cam like a track. Wouldn't that greatly reduce the friction/heat produced by the "worm gear effect"?
Not really. Your roller bearings would bear a huge amount of pressure compared to the cam roller bearings and would fail very often. It is far better going to a linear piston engine instead.
Sure, look up "FP3 project". Apparently they have their own issues with two cylinder opposed piston models (which would be a delight too) as they cannot eliminate/compensate for differences in individual power strokes.
Also look up "ball worm screw" what this engine will have in best case is a that. And it is used in screwjacks, i.e. they are not reversible, which means they have less than 50% transfer efficiency.
@RenzeZielman Actually they still use them to this day. not the Pinion, in the carrier.
Gleason-Torsen diff's and AWD center diff's. Hypoid gears are used because of noise. Worm pinion gears whine loud and limited vehicle speeds because of the high ratio's. had nothing to do with friction. Hypoid gears actually have a higher moment of inertia than a worm, theyre just quiet.
@1MtnBoy From what I remember, worm gear drives are not very efficient, being as low as 20%. Usually they are in the 50% from my experience with single stage drives when we were using them for a servo application. Worm drive offered no back-drive so minimal holding torque required by the motor once in position. Motor had to more than double its torque rating with worm drive vs the helical gear reduction unit.
@gavincurtis they are used in high-torque applications such as power window motor gear reduction assembly,etc. Worms are efficient enough given the surface area of the gear, it's the high ratio's that most folks get hung up on when they think of efficiency. sounds like your remembering something backwards ? motor torque is loaded lower using a worm/spur due to the much higher gear ratio vs Helical ring & pinion.
@1MtnBoy The design we had was to force resin at a pressure of several tons into an injection mold.
Spur gear reducer was very large and about 94% efficient. The worm drive unit was much more compact and offered no back drive. Allowed the motor to consume very little power to maintain pressure. But the rated efficiency of the worm drive was just over 50% as stated from the factory. It is the friction between worm and gear as you now have sliding surfaces. Motor torque had to be doubled.
@gavincurtis well, you are correct about the efficiency but it is actually a result of the surface area of the worm gear, there is a lot of contact between the spur teeth to be able to transmit all that torque. it is an efficient torque multiplier though as demonstrated by the high load use you describe. they make a compact package and are quieter than a spur arraignment, another reason they are used in automotive applications where operating noise would be a concern.
@Littlebluetruck1995 Just what I was thinking. It's based loosely off of the Variable Displacement A/C Compressor and the 2-stroke engine. The burn of the power stroke on each cylinder will need to end before BDC. Also, this design will need convex bearing surfaces to be at all useful, as roller bearings would deteriorate far too quickly. Plus, there needs to be an output shaft, or some sort of outer gear teeth to even drive anything.
@wescoelectric why bother with rolling elements and their theoretical line/point contact stresses at all? thin wedges of (hydrodynamically) pressurised fluid can support a LOT of force. Yeah it's little more than a pump running in reverse.Won't the forces involved be substantially the same, as that of a pump of the same power?
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@mallarmist wrong, this type of engine does in fact power torpedos. the engine is not much larger than a chain saw engine and makes about 380 hp,it has been used as such since the late 60's.it uses a fuel somewhat like the nitromethane used by fuel dragsters.
what about barings between the piston touching the axel to make the friction less (sorry for the bad english, what doo you expect from a 13yo dutch boy ;))
looks as if it would cut itself. a prototype would be interestin, bcuz most new invented engines are real crap and only that there is a new motor type.!
This is the kind of engine they use in the Predartor drones. They run at low rpm with alot of torque. It allows the propeller to be attached without needing reduction gears.
PatriotCondor 4 hours ago
it seems like it would have a bunch of wear on the center crank
paladain55 3 days ago
wavey lines!
yumyumtofu 4 days ago
Hardly a first, it's just a asymmetric iso-torus except for the even piston configuration.
FractalLogic 5 days ago
something from an old stirling engine for submarines, redone LOL
pyramonitor 5 days ago
Looks like its basically a horizontally opposed swash-plate engine.
I believe something similar was once used in torpedoes.
FTBoogie 5 days ago
Looks like that drive plate (for lack of a better term) undergoes a great deal of friction. How is the heat transferred? Through the shaft bearings? Perhaps an oil system with a heat-exchanger?
Ebbonified 1 week ago
Why does everyone say the wankle is so efficient? An engine that is less than two liters and get around 18 MPG sounds pretty inefficient to me.
Cudaman65 1 week ago
@Cudaman65 they are not fuel efficient, nor very practical in most cases but for the displacement vs power and torque output they are amazing. try to get the same amount of power out of an equivalent sized NA piston engine without any huge modifications, its pretty hard to do.
woggleboggle123 1 week ago
@Cudaman65 they are power-to-weight efficient, not fuel efficient. unfortunately
joffeloff 1 week ago
@joffeloff Why would be not fuel efficient? Less friction, at least.
tthhnnee 2 days ago
@tthhnnee well, i don't know why -- wankels just aren't as fuel efficient as regular piston engines. something to do with the combustion chamber geometry and the way the rotor moves. I'm not sure.
joffeloff 2 days ago
@pushitgently001p do you think it would be more efficient than the mazda rotary engine? seems like it may not be since it still has up and down pistons, unlike the wenkle engine design ,some sort of hybrid design may e even better of those 2
bulletproof2353 2 weeks ago
So, where do the dino droppings go?
U3erpru7ser 2 weeks ago
Way better than any piston design,less friction,alot less parts...pity they don't market it like wot wenkel did with Mazda :)
pushitgently001p 2 weeks ago
Looks like the motor on display at the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio. Like the compactness. . .
mayonpi1 3 weeks ago
Reminds me of a high pressure hydraulic pump from an aircraft......
rdallas81 4 weeks ago
Combustion engine feels nearing end. Agony of wonderful amazing schemes.
Aluminium-air power source + electric motor wheel. Shaken, not stirred.
remember25october 4 weeks ago
that thing would heat up like nothing else. you better have some good oil to stop all that friction. it would probably work though.
117nathanmyers 1 month ago
Слишком много деталей, да и двигатель получится массивным
mrDiv762 1 month ago
@mrDiv762 Наоборот, люди хвастают компактностью схемы. Нет коленвала, маленькая шайбочка делает его работу.
remember25october 4 weeks ago
@remember25october Может быть и так, кстати, где-то показывали нашу маленькую торпеду, так вот там стояло нечто похожее, но только 4 цилиндра и все они были с одной стороны (от упомянутой шайбы). Мощность того двигателя сравнивали с КамАЗом. Да, я тут немного потролю :-) Самый лучший двигатель - это РПД (роторно-поршневой двигатель Ванкеля) ИМХО
mrDiv762 3 weeks ago
ICE cars are losing ground to EVs. There is no inexpensive way to continue to produce fuels to run engines. If we try to make fuel from corn or other crops, for instance, it drives up the cost of food, and even if all crop land in the country were used to produce fuel crops, it could not provide enuf fuel to power all our cars. But EVs can be powered cleanly by solar panels on the roofs of our homes and businesses-- no oil money for all the dangerous regimes in Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc.
billdale1 1 month ago
@billdale1 That sounds great, but the cost to build and maintain EV's is still far greater than ICE engines, and will remain so for at least another decade or two. Solar Panels are also a zero return, they cost more to produce on average than the return you get from them during their lifespan. Not to mention that Solar Panels require the use of a PM that is not going to get cheaper, or easier to find in the next 10 years.
Joe11Blue 4 weeks ago
I thought of this about 45 years ago started to build it but had to make a living and did not have enopugh time
EdwJenkins 1 month ago
@EdwJenkins That has been done already.. and ran on a plane@ 80's check it in this video: watch?v=uJSLDq7MkhQ I am still trying to find more..
tthhnnee 2 days ago
its ok
JgWinnifred694 1 month ago
really big ac compressor but good idea
TheFlacker99 1 month ago
lol
zePrudence358 1 month ago
I think the correct term is swash wobble.
showoffyourwheels 1 month ago
yes it looks nice and would probably work but imagine the friction in this design
Alphacow64 1 month ago
@Alphacow64 This is 90 year old torpedo propulsion motor which was used and destroyed after running for only 2 minutes powered by compressed air.
axialvectorenergy (dot) com is a bullshit website which is promoted with this bullshit spam video.
dreamdiction 1 month ago
File this engine in the same category as the Zoche aero diesels. There was another compay - dynacam that made a bunch of noise regarding the engine and then went away. Give this company a little time and it will fail as well.
microtexas 1 month ago
this is an amazing design for an engine. i totally need to get one for my ttuck.
uuyittn 1 month ago
Its a fantastic design.
05Rudey 2 months ago
Looks like a "dynacam" engine, believe it or not this engine was orginally designed in 1916 by one of the Studebaker brothers!!
Thesupersmith79 2 months ago
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Great video keep up the good work.
tillasmax 2 months ago
@ fatnuts: As for EVs being "dirty", no way of powering a vehicle is 100% clean, but when all factors R considered, EVs r the cleanest-- it takes electricity to produce gasoline from crude, and u can druve farther on the electricity used to make the gasoline if you use it to drive an EV than u can using it to power an ICE car!
Also, an EV gets its energy delivered cleanly, very efficiently, by grid. ICE cars have 2 have their gasoline delivered by big, noisy, inefficient tanker trucks. (cont'd)
billdale1 2 months ago
@fatnuts-- glad to see you pay attention to such things as air motors, but they have extremely limited range that cannot be overcome with high tech, and they are very inefficient-- when compressing any gas you ger heat... if u pump air enough it becomes a liquid, but the harder you pump it the more energy you lose as heat. Terribly inefficient. And an air motor cannot give u as much range as today's EVs.
(cont'd)
billdale1 2 months ago
OK, that was new!
ivanatora 2 months ago
They could of put it in the 1976 AMC Pacer.
rEdf196 2 months ago 4
what program is that?
belialx3 2 months ago
Sorry, fellas, "swash plate "engines have been around for more than 50 years-- they are still reciprocating, and therefore inefficient--all have failed for the same reason... if they could have been practical they should have been produced decades ago, not now that petroleum is running out and electric vehicles are the obvious answer to replace reciprocating engines. Please don't waste your time, and don't distract everyone from clean, efficient, simple, electric motor-driven cars.
billdale1 2 months ago
@billdale1 but elecs arn't that green when the power companys are burning coal and rubish to make the power for these elec cars to be charged up every night, and they say about hybrids, but do you know how much energy goes in to just making the batterys for them, theres and tata being made in india the is powered by compressed air
fatnuts777666 2 months ago
"Most Efficient Engine" ? .....dumb
thetwistofcain 2 months ago
People have been trying to build engines of this general type for at least 90 years and no one has been successful yet.
mpetersen6 2 months ago
this would be a better high pressure pump than a motor
godackgudalach1 2 months ago
Yeah, someone please show me this running on a dyno making 600+ torque.
BeulahLips 2 months ago
I'm more intrigued on the valvetrain used, it's not shown here. Is it regular poppet valves or some rotary layout...???
Checheraguto 2 months ago
that is sooo cool.....
straighter100 2 months ago
Key...you guys, the control factor as to how All this kinetic energy is harnessed before it is released...for all you IQ~SenSai'
sprydo7 2 months ago
Wow that things bad ass the only thoughts would be the amount of tork and the amount of wear.
DeadSnowRC 3 months ago
I like the concept, however, in it's current design, the pistons will not operate the rotating plate like the animation shows. you would need a steeper angle on the plate.
jdbull66 3 months ago
one of most amazing things in technick i think.
faight3r 3 months ago
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died4hislove 3 months ago
this is a copy basicly of an A6 GM AC COMPRESSOR
readyxxi 3 months ago 11
@readyxxi I agree, it looks like a simple swash-plate compressor.
mikeshotrodshop 3 months ago
@readyxxi other way around. GM has never invented anything...............
weldinggod1 4 weeks ago
@readyxxi otherway round, experimental engines of this type have existed since the 1800s as steam engines, but yes, most car AC compressors are of that design or similar.
Basically a pump & an engine are the same thing, any concept that works as a pump can be made to work as an engine & vice versa.
milksheihk 3 weeks ago
very nice but so much friction
MrAsmorde 3 months ago
too much friction
plavins1 3 months ago
It will be busy schedule to produce this engine well balanced. Besides crankshaft has large friction surfaces and relatively short stroke to be efficient. But the idea absolutely brilliant
digitalbaba1960 3 months ago
looks fragile.
HaXardStudios 3 months ago
Its just like any normal cylinder
engine just more compact in a sense
SupremeLoadChancelor 3 months ago
Does anyone know if axial vector energy.com got a loan from Obama? Are they going to be the next S o l y n d r a?
byugrad1024 3 months ago
I'm getting really tired of seeing these engines spread around youtube without any dynamometer data to back up claims.
byugrad1024 3 months ago
That's funny look in side the ac compressor in your car works just like this.
mbsnyderc 3 months ago
very intersting...
tranceworld100 3 months ago
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Thats wonderful but what are you using as Fuel??? I would prefer the Magnetic Engine because it never runs out of Fuel. Its as strong as the Magnetic Force of the Engine. It creates electricity to power the car's engine ... Free Electric Power ... Tesla's Inventions ....
tonyvac25 3 months ago
@tonyvac25 Polar Opposites spinning a turbine that produces electric power creates an infinite source of energy
tonyvac25 3 months ago
@tonyvac25 Think of Niagara Falls Spinning the Turbines on a smaller Scale it can power your house and your car
tonyvac25 3 months ago
@tonyvac25 You might have to give it its initial spin to get it started but once it spins it wont stop unless you force it to stop
tonyvac25 3 months ago
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tonyvac25 3 months ago
cool motor bro!
khoham 3 months ago
poseo un compresor en mi taller con este mismo principio y el rendimiento es excelente posee 12 pistones
jorgeargemiro 3 months ago
Get a copy of Jane's Military Ships or one of the other weapons books. This type of engine is found in the torpedos of various nations. I have heard of a Soviet fish that would do over 100 Knots on one of these.
lkjones59 3 months ago
Good concept, but impractical unless it was a two stroke, and then i think the harmonic inefficiencies of this motor would prevent the RPM needed to make the horsepower. There isnt enough mechanical leverage or weight in this design to make good low end torque. Im just a mechanic, but yeah, this is wishful thinking. Nice animation though lol!!!
greasemonkey189 3 months ago
God must have invented the piston because few designs ever dont include a piston. I invented an engine similar to this the whole idea is to maximize energy from the piston to the wheel with the fewest gear interchanges that reduce efficiency. Ideally it would be better to have an engine on every wheel maximizing efficiency by turning the wheel directly. What a beautiful thing a redundant 2 wheel engine system.
AnuKnocky 4 months ago
Thanks for the great animation! Visit the NXTutorials website for more cool tutorials on NX 8.
DesignViz 4 months ago
now i know how a automotive ac compressor works
poolmotorrepairguyFL 4 months ago
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Not a new design by any means. The U.S. Mk 48 series heavyweight torpedoes use a swashplate engine very similar to this that runs on OTTO 2 monopropellant fuel. The cylindrical shape has obvious advantages for torpedo use.
mvolesky1 4 months ago
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mvolesky1 4 months ago
This engine looks like it will produce a lot of torque.
AviationMetalSmith 4 months ago
automotive a/c compressor
fernando68122 4 months ago
i think its very good design , it wont take much space and it would produce lotsa power, but if water jackets are added to ensure coolness it would perfect
yazied00100 4 months ago
That center piece better be stronger then a Sherman tank's outer hull
GhostXoP 5 months ago
It works by eroding that disky thing?
atomicpickle 5 months ago
@atomicpickle no, in this video you can see more clear /watch?v=sVEOTNjAtCU
meetyourdoomBRA 4 months ago
@meetyourdoomBRA Yeah looks better there. Fill that whole center up with gobs of grease. Would your design go directly between the axle?
atomicpickle 4 months ago
Isn't this basically an A/C compressor?
ryansnider 5 months ago 5
@ryansnider Yes.
KenMacMillan 4 months ago
@ryansnider Yes GM used this wobble plate system in several oftheir automotive AC compressors
chuckbear1961 4 months ago
@ryansnider basically, only in reverse. the cylinders are driving the plate, in a compressor you rotate the swash-plate to compress the cylinder(s) charge.
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
interesting design but it just seems like the wankel engine but more complicated,powerful but lacking longevity
jf892 5 months ago
Lycoming made exactly that in 1951,inertia killed the syn curve crank and they couldn't keep the cylinders round,uneven thermal loss.....most idea's reservist every 40-50 years......
535bbc 5 months ago
It is the most efficient, but will it blend?
AlxeMsatain 5 months ago
Valves... Pistons.... So, why do we need more complex piston engine?
EJ205T 5 months ago
what is the induction system?
kyle2712 5 months ago
use magnets to push curved plate - no touch but power transfered
DjGisME 5 months ago
there is no worm-gear arrangement that I can see. it looks like a big A/C compressor-swash plate. actually functions quite well. anyone using the A/C in their car probably has one of these compressor designs. its just very inefficient. swash plate has much less mechanical leverage than a crank & rod. thats why you add cylinders to increase efficiency .but it absolutely works.
1MtnBoy 5 months ago
this engine just simply would not function.
MrDonWebb 5 months ago
thats fucking creative!
wertacus 5 months ago
The critics here are only egotists trying to prove they are smart ( we know it already, you do not need to prove it). I wish they had helpful, useful comments. Any flaws with the design can be overcome. Instead of saying it will not work, please make positive suggestions. Work together. A community. Together we stand, divided we fall. That is how society advances, not fighting and bickering amongst ourselves
tld5500 5 months ago
Charles Redrup comes to mind here.
Squarerig 6 months ago
There is a lot of friction in this engine.....and I'm not only talking about the drive to the swashplate. The "pistons" have an incredible amount of sideways pressure on them.....all the torque this engine produces pushes the pistons hard against the sides of the cylinders..... and it will have a lot of torque as it's basically geared down internally.
69aussieguy 6 months ago
just like an a/c compressor with a "wobble plate"... we all know how long a/c compressors last
itzbossman 6 months ago
*correction*
"A couple other MODERN engine inventors also incorporate..."
papadrugio 6 months ago
very interesting
crudeoilsystems 6 months ago
I saw this concept in Popular mechanics magazine back in the late seventies or early eighties. I believe they called it a sinusoidal engine.
It's lower rpm made it more suitable for airplane engines. Has it ever made it into production?
clockguy2 6 months ago
How would the fuel get to the cylinders? And why would anybody put spark plugs right next to the bell housing? not very easy to access
2Jeff4Gordon 6 months ago
..,.."bitumen oil drop..,'
fortune75ful 6 months ago
maybe with a fairly large flywheel this would work.... maybe.
i see a lot of friction though.
lordmcted 6 months ago
that is a A/A motor, produce presion not motion! and need motion for that... sorry for my english,
fedrozx 6 months ago
jou must build a realy engene
ollenhauer1 6 months ago
i wished you did an exploded assemble of the system as to show how parts fit together etc. Anyhow it's great but what's the efficiency of this, do you know?
itsbigdan 6 months ago
thats genius!
TheItalianPerson 6 months ago
I can see the AA man fixing that......
Obzy77 6 months ago
it will be knocking in no time.
gokartbuyer 7 months ago
Such a shame that so much effort gets wasted on schemes like this. Sure, it can run. Does it bring anything new to the table - NO! It runs std 4-stroke OTTO cycle, with all the inefficiencies, emissions, etc. The only advantage is density, but today's engines are "small enough" .The wankel, MYT, quasi-turbine, many others - all the same failing...although many of these others have claims that pass the line into fraud. What matters is the GAS processes, not unusual mechanisms.
dabyug123 7 months ago
Sooo are we using rihanna's hair grease for lube or what?
mr170000 7 months ago
This is already more than 10 years of air-conditioning compressors used in the curse
ThePhantomalfi666 7 months ago
Ah what a great design i see it uses the super exodia gear with the xfactor metaloy metal.
kraden18 7 months ago
That disk looks like it would snap at 9000 rpms
oOwingedaznOo 7 months ago
Just like an automotive AC compressor
WickedTRX 7 months ago
Interesting, decade or so too late cause were about to go electric!!
theantiredneck 8 months ago
@theantiredneck I certainly hope so but... I'll believe it when I see it ha ha!
aubreyholman 7 months ago
have u ever seen an axial hydrolic pump before i bet u did but u think we havent, can u say copyright infringement
mk38mod 8 months ago
This principle is used in Automotive air-conditioning compressors.
AUTURBO6 8 months ago
your 3d Video is amazing. I would like to hire you for a visualisation of an idea of mine if I can afford you!
ingeniero3aleman 8 months ago
Beautiful design... but wonder how much it would overheat? ;)
dycarbon1 8 months ago
Is it just me, or does it only really need half the cylinders?
the26thhour 8 months ago
sweet
rnc920 8 months ago
how many seconds does that engine last?
GE24Tony 8 months ago
Could work as a steam engine, I guess.
killachipmunk 8 months ago
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BBGBITW 8 months ago
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@killachipmunk You are on the right application for this kind of engine. It is very powerful and gives a lot of tourqe at low rpm's.
BBGBITW 8 months ago
If the designers of this engine first dived into history, and explored why cars dont have worm gears in the rear end anymore, they might discover that this design will have too much friction as it basically is a worm gear....
RenzeZielman 8 months ago 37
@RenzeZielman high-performance cars and trucks that use the Torsen differential still have worm gears.
trinityzaku 7 months ago
@RenzeZielman Not strictly true. Ever heard of the Michell slipper pad (used in the the Michell Axial Swashplate engine of 1920) ? If this design had those then friction would be quite low despite the pressure
steveBB30 7 months ago
@RenzeZielman I (think I) see rollers interfacing the cam so it's probably not that bad on efficiency.
paytontech 6 months ago
@RenzeZielman Some audis use worm geared rear ends.
ericmck2000 6 months ago
@RenzeZielman
If you dive into the NOW, you'll find out you're wrong!
This is more than doable, it's functional and works more like a squash-plate on a helicopter than a worm drive!
I'm glad Sikorsky and Ryan didn't listen to you or we would have no rotor winged aircraft. :-)
KesherMedia 6 months ago
@KesherMedia Psst. It's called a swashplate. ;)
And it's been used in IC engines before with varying degrees of success, starting in the early 1910s. A couple other engine inventors also incorporate a swashplate instead of the conventional crank.
papadrugio 6 months ago
@RenzeZielman The pistons in this engine have rollers that ride the cam like a track. Wouldn't that greatly reduce the friction/heat produced by the "worm gear effect"?
danwes10 5 months ago
@danwes10
Not really. Your roller bearings would bear a huge amount of pressure compared to the cam roller bearings and would fail very often. It is far better going to a linear piston engine instead.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter any linear examples for me?
l091805772 5 months ago
@l091805772
Sure, look up "FP3 project". Apparently they have their own issues with two cylinder opposed piston models (which would be a delight too) as they cannot eliminate/compensate for differences in individual power strokes.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@l091805772
Also look up "ball worm screw" what this engine will have in best case is a that. And it is used in screwjacks, i.e. they are not reversible, which means they have less than 50% transfer efficiency.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@RenzeZielman Actually they still use them to this day. not the Pinion, in the carrier.
Gleason-Torsen diff's and AWD center diff's. Hypoid gears are used because of noise. Worm pinion gears whine loud and limited vehicle speeds because of the high ratio's. had nothing to do with friction. Hypoid gears actually have a higher moment of inertia than a worm, theyre just quiet.
1MtnBoy 5 months ago 13
@1MtnBoy From what I remember, worm gear drives are not very efficient, being as low as 20%. Usually they are in the 50% from my experience with single stage drives when we were using them for a servo application. Worm drive offered no back-drive so minimal holding torque required by the motor once in position. Motor had to more than double its torque rating with worm drive vs the helical gear reduction unit.
gavincurtis 3 months ago
@gavincurtis they are used in high-torque applications such as power window motor gear reduction assembly,etc. Worms are efficient enough given the surface area of the gear, it's the high ratio's that most folks get hung up on when they think of efficiency. sounds like your remembering something backwards ? motor torque is loaded lower using a worm/spur due to the much higher gear ratio vs Helical ring & pinion.
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@1MtnBoy The design we had was to force resin at a pressure of several tons into an injection mold.
Spur gear reducer was very large and about 94% efficient. The worm drive unit was much more compact and offered no back drive. Allowed the motor to consume very little power to maintain pressure. But the rated efficiency of the worm drive was just over 50% as stated from the factory. It is the friction between worm and gear as you now have sliding surfaces. Motor torque had to be doubled.
gavincurtis 3 months ago
@gavincurtis well, you are correct about the efficiency but it is actually a result of the surface area of the worm gear, there is a lot of contact between the spur teeth to be able to transmit all that torque. it is an efficient torque multiplier though as demonstrated by the high load use you describe. they make a compact package and are quieter than a spur arraignment, another reason they are used in automotive applications where operating noise would be a concern.
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@RenzeZielman
Can be solved with rollers. The aim of this layout seems to be reducing space consumed by the engine.
Gammaclipper 4 months ago
Certain auto companies use a design similar to this in their automotive A/C compressors, especially Honda.
Littlebluetruck1995 8 months ago
@Littlebluetruck1995 Just what I was thinking. It's based loosely off of the Variable Displacement A/C Compressor and the 2-stroke engine. The burn of the power stroke on each cylinder will need to end before BDC. Also, this design will need convex bearing surfaces to be at all useful, as roller bearings would deteriorate far too quickly. Plus, there needs to be an output shaft, or some sort of outer gear teeth to even drive anything.
wescoelectric 8 months ago
@wescoelectric why bother with rolling elements and their theoretical line/point contact stresses at all? thin wedges of (hydrodynamically) pressurised fluid can support a LOT of force. Yeah it's little more than a pump running in reverse.Won't the forces involved be substantially the same, as that of a pump of the same power?
steveBB30 7 months ago
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bullikins 8 months ago
Does this actually exist in running form? Looks really interesting.
annonymoususerme 8 months ago
@annonymoususerme Yes they exists and have done so for many years, but not for ordinary applications ...
BBGBITW 8 months ago
wow a small simple 12 cycl engine. Hmm is there a working model?
GayBoyRunning 8 months ago
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RockFORD8371HAYLEY3B 8 months ago
@RockFORD8371HAYLEY3B FUCK YEAH CAPSLOCK
midnightclubII 8 months ago
well with good ball bearings and proper axel it's posible to be a long lasting engine...
1kadayfk 8 months ago
Dynacam built this type of engine and installed them in light aircraft, the Russians built them in the 1940's also
clintrathbun 8 months ago
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clintrathbun 8 months ago
its just a big AC compressor found in automobiles
x0druid0x 9 months ago
How many h.p. is a full power ?
betinnavarro1 9 months ago
Must be quite inefficient thermodynamically...
Renceau 9 months ago
@Renceau yeah, i don't know why they don't do more work on gas turbine engine, they can be as much as 70% thermoefficient
sasop117 9 months ago
Torpedoes use this type of engine.
iatfai0428 9 months ago
@iatfai0428 lol no they use electric engines
mallarmist 9 months ago
@mallarmist If the Mk48 information on Wiki is correct, it uses internal combustion engine not electric.
iatfai0428 9 months ago
@mallarmist wrong, this type of engine does in fact power torpedos. the engine is not much larger than a chain saw engine and makes about 380 hp,it has been used as such since the late 60's.it uses a fuel somewhat like the nitromethane used by fuel dragsters.
bullikins 7 months ago
what would this be used for?
KentuckianaRifleman 9 months ago
what about barings between the piston touching the axel to make the friction less (sorry for the bad english, what doo you expect from a 13yo dutch boy ;))
nathangek 9 months ago
looks as if it would cut itself. a prototype would be interestin, bcuz most new invented engines are real crap and only that there is a new motor type.!
faxxzc 9 months ago
almost like an a/c compressor
frankrizzooo 9 months ago
Looks like the lobe in the middle will be shredded after a while. Metal particles flying all over the inside tearing it apart.
vprice66 9 months ago