You have to be a real idiot to go to a video of a beat covered from a band you think "sucks." Oh wait, you just wanna be an elitest jerk, so I guess your not really an idiot. You're just sad.
You have to be a real idiot to go to a video of a beat covered from a band you think "sucks." Oh wait, you just wanna be an elitest jerk, so I guess your not really an idiot. You're just sad.
You have to be a real idiot to go to a video of a beat covered from a band you think "sucks." Oh wait, you just wanna be an elitest jerk, so I guess your not really an idiot. You're just sad.
Ambroulard has a point, but I'd rather say it's not the touch that is lacking, but the looseness and the sense of groove that Jon has when he plays this very same pattern. My advice is work on that and both you and your playing will benefit from it! Good ears, figuring it all out! :)
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@TitsMcGee1804 - Yeah- that's what I said NO Touch- and his shoulders are pronouncedly rolled forward which means in a yr. or two or maybe already playing will actually start to be physically painful for him and he'll have to stop- which will be good for his friends ears. By the way Mars Volta Sucks in case you had some other delusion going on. As far as seeing me do better- you won't get to see me at all tits.
I'm used to play something like 4 hours in a row LIVE (i.e. Zeppelin songs, no Pop music) so I've got no lessons to learn from idiots such as Ambroulard... I wouldn't even give my dog such a nickname : Ambroulard
@fabricedrummer -Hey;Fabrichead -you say You used to play something like 4 hours in a row live trying to resurrect Bonham-?Cool! super original idea trying to do that dude! That could take you your whole life and you still might not be Bonham, but then again you might..who can say? anyway if you can take a break from your dull thudding check out Roger Biwandu summertime in 7/8 here on utube- U might learn something but probably not since you've got "no lessons to learn" ha ha that's a joke
@ambroulard man, you are good at looking like an asshole. Not even from a viewpoint of a Volta fan, but as a human being, you're a fucking dick. From a Volta point of view, it's weird that you don't have millions of fans if Volta is so bad (especially for a non-rap/pop/Boys Like Girls band)
Well Bedlahm is a completely different album from De-loused, Frances, and ampu, so its hard to really judge who sounds better because its 2 completely different phases of the band, Omar being the main culprit. He writes practically everything, and he tells pridgen how to play, so its Omars fault, not thomas's. Besides, I think Thomas's style fit the last 2 albums perfectly. jon's style wouldn't have fit as well, but its not the drummer's faults. the style would have been the same with either
@tcslick420 how can omar tell pridgen what to play when he cant even read or write music, its not feasible that he wrote all his parts like a Frank Zappa. He could only have presented the music and given loose guidance. A drummer will stamp his identity on a band, hence the MV will never be the same again post Theodore. Theres no way Jon would have played pridgens parts either.
pridgen is an amazing drummer and prob better technically than theodore but jon just flowed so much better with the sound of TMV Pridgen sounds like hes playing in the fucking GC drum off every time he plays a song. Just because you CAN play insane single stroke rolls doesn't mean you should on every track..
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tmv suffered greatly when they lost jon theodore. thomas is talented but sounds like shit with the mars volta.. a horrible mismatch. now the mars volta have become everything they used to make fun of. comfortably rich mega rock stars with more money than passion. they get worse and worse with every new album. some of omars solo albums are cool though.
theodore got booted cz he didnt like the direction the band was going and so he didnt put any extra time into it. and instead of talking it out, tensions built up and they parted ways. pridgen prob smokes more weed than jon theodore dipshit.. almost every member of that band smokes weed with the possible exception of isaiah owens. the band had more balls with jon hands down.
yeah more balls huh ur opinion is worthless hands down pridgen and molta have matured and play intense and well put together songs sorry u miss drunkenship PEOPLE MATURE IN MUSIC !!!
@sawsosis Yeah i agree but probally the only guy who doesnt as well is Omar,Hes been clean since about late 03, and now he doesnt even drink hes that strict.
as far as jon and thomas go. jon is the shit. thomas is too. but in my opinion jon suited the band more that's all. you may have not heard him. but you must of not listened. now all you can hear is thomas and nothing else
ok I am sick of this whole Jon vs Tom thing it's just stupid.
Jon is a great drummer who plays with his entire soul don't but I can't ever focus on his drumming it's just so in the background and also the way his kit sounded always just sounded really forgettable
but with tom you can always hear what he's doing even if you aren't focussing on him, yes he might be an agressive drummer but that doesn't mean that he lacks feeling I mean kick my teeth in if I'm wrong but isn't agression a feeling?
"ok I am sick of this whole Jon vs Tom thing it's just stupid."
funny how u say that, and then immediately decide to contribute your opinion in. from my perspective all i can analyse is that the only reason you think it's ridiculous is because people disagree with you
You're probably right and maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment but maybe I just wanted to add something with a little more substance than just "Jon plays with his entire sould" or "Thomas is too agressive" or "Tom will never replace Jon, no one can"
yes, your comment was a decent well balanced one. i appiritiate that. good job. but that doesn't discount the fact that your comment was still hugely contradictory
Tut, tut, you should know (i'm sure you now do) that double paradiddles and para triplets will be played with a triplet feel. Think of the kinds of fills chad Smith does, for example at the end the chours of 'Funky Monks' where it goes '...I got a feeling for you' they are double paradiddles/para triplets.
The Tracklisting on the CD was wrong when they released it. The tracks are as follows:
1) Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus
2) The Widow
3) L'Via L'Viaquez
4) Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore
5-12) Cassandra Gemini
The CD was originally 5 tracks consisting on 70ish minutes of music, but due to EP-LP reasons, they had Cassandra Gemini split up into multiple tracks.
But track 5 is the start of the 30 minute epic entitled "Cassandra Gemini"
well played! I play drums myself and admire jon theodores playing, and I am at the time struggling with exact that pattern you are playing in the vid... anyway, what is the size on the left zildjian a custom crash? sounds good, 14"??
wow..... your ghost notes are perfect man... Jon is god but mars voltas new drummer has sum slick chops man... his not a slacker... If ne thing they probabaly as good as each other and u'd have to put it down to style
Was it? I'd swear blind that was a 10" rack tom. And were they G1 heads? I've been tempted lately to go for G1 top and bottom, but everyone says they'd be too resonant. Dunno.
4/4
chumanjames 9 months ago
oh the cassandra gemini...
fob199 11 months ago
Those are definitely single paradiddles.
theoawdng 1 year ago
is this @ MI?
tokazar 1 year ago
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You have to be a real idiot to go to a video of a beat covered from a band you think "sucks." Oh wait, you just wanna be an elitest jerk, so I guess your not really an idiot. You're just sad.
adawg37 1 year ago
Just a Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore cover with no music.
HaydenFromHell 1 year ago
Good job by the way, tough drummer to try and immitate.
damnnargles 2 years ago
Whats that last roll you play, is it a herta?? Some kinda flam... I'm shit with the names of rudiments..
damnnargles 2 years ago
@ambroulard My God Sir you fail miserably at life.... Any reply you make will bring you down further into the pit of disgrace. Goodnight.
jimmyRHCP 2 years ago
Dude fuck the haters man. This is an awesome demonstration and those ghost notes are amazing
Lateralus63 2 years ago 2
Gravity blasts?
swooper5 2 years ago
Ambroulard has a point, but I'd rather say it's not the touch that is lacking, but the looseness and the sense of groove that Jon has when he plays this very same pattern. My advice is work on that and both you and your playing will benefit from it! Good ears, figuring it all out! :)
craycpanda 2 years ago 2
Wow- crappy sounding pattern- you have like NO touch.
ambroulard 2 years ago
@ambroulard what? no touch?! i would love to see you do better
TitsMcGee1804 2 years ago 4
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@TitsMcGee1804 - Yeah- that's what I said NO Touch- and his shoulders are pronouncedly rolled forward which means in a yr. or two or maybe already playing will actually start to be physically painful for him and he'll have to stop- which will be good for his friends ears. By the way Mars Volta Sucks in case you had some other delusion going on. As far as seeing me do better- you won't get to see me at all tits.
ambroulard 2 years ago
@ambroulard - okay i agree his posture is bad....
but you said it was a crappy sounding pattern...which is untrue, its pretty good
and if you think MV suck then thats cool, thats ur opinion...its wrong but its still yours
jon theodore though is insane at what he does, if you disagree...your obviously not a real drummer
douchebag
TitsMcGee1804 2 years ago
Hey;
I'm used to play something like 4 hours in a row LIVE (i.e. Zeppelin songs, no Pop music) so I've got no lessons to learn from idiots such as Ambroulard... I wouldn't even give my dog such a nickname : Ambroulard
fabricedrummer 2 years ago 4
@fabricedrummer -Hey;Fabrichead -you say You used to play something like 4 hours in a row live trying to resurrect Bonham-?Cool! super original idea trying to do that dude! That could take you your whole life and you still might not be Bonham, but then again you might..who can say? anyway if you can take a break from your dull thudding check out Roger Biwandu summertime in 7/8 here on utube- U might learn something but probably not since you've got "no lessons to learn" ha ha that's a joke
ambroulard 2 years ago
if you got nothing nice to say.....go get run over by a car
TitsMcGee1804 2 years ago
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bigperson666 3 months ago
@fabricedrummer ambroulard is a cunt.
bigperson666 3 months ago
how interesting, these wise guys have never anything uploaded...typical
zagyex 2 years ago
@ambroulard man, you are good at looking like an asshole. Not even from a viewpoint of a Volta fan, but as a human being, you're a fucking dick. From a Volta point of view, it's weird that you don't have millions of fans if Volta is so bad (especially for a non-rap/pop/Boys Like Girls band)
Colenelly 1 year ago
Well Bedlahm is a completely different album from De-loused, Frances, and ampu, so its hard to really judge who sounds better because its 2 completely different phases of the band, Omar being the main culprit. He writes practically everything, and he tells pridgen how to play, so its Omars fault, not thomas's. Besides, I think Thomas's style fit the last 2 albums perfectly. jon's style wouldn't have fit as well, but its not the drummer's faults. the style would have been the same with either
tcslick420 2 years ago
@tcslick420 how can omar tell pridgen what to play when he cant even read or write music, its not feasible that he wrote all his parts like a Frank Zappa. He could only have presented the music and given loose guidance. A drummer will stamp his identity on a band, hence the MV will never be the same again post Theodore. Theres no way Jon would have played pridgens parts either.
BigWill2k 1 year ago
as far as volta theodore > pridgen no doubt
pridgen is an amazing drummer and prob better technically than theodore but jon just flowed so much better with the sound of TMV Pridgen sounds like hes playing in the fucking GC drum off every time he plays a song. Just because you CAN play insane single stroke rolls doesn't mean you should on every track..
ollie1504 2 years ago 2
yes i agree pridgen was shitty for TMV jon was much better plus i think jon has a better style of play pridgen is just all over the fucking place
cicatriz3 2 years ago
too much crash... other than that it was pretty good.
brandon017786 2 years ago
There was a frail syrup dripping off his lapdance lapelle....
Lateralus63 2 years ago 3
cassandra gemini hell yeah
KingCheez 2 years ago
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isolationist911 2 years ago
maaaate sick!
and tech music schools? i've just finished my first year of the degree ;) i bought one of the pearl kits, they've gone mapex now!
check out my volta vids if you have time :) peace x
zimmoframen 2 years ago
tmv suffered greatly when they lost jon theodore. thomas is talented but sounds like shit with the mars volta.. a horrible mismatch. now the mars volta have become everything they used to make fun of. comfortably rich mega rock stars with more money than passion. they get worse and worse with every new album. some of omars solo albums are cool though.
sawsosis 2 years ago
wtf did u just diss pridgen u really have no clue on music huh get off johns dick hed tell you himself
chud89 2 years ago
fuck you chud pridgen sucks ass. long live theodore!!!!!!
sawsosis 2 years ago
long live theodore last time i checked motherfuker is out of volta who the fuk gets kicked out of volta hahahaha i theodore should lay of the weed
chud89 2 years ago
theodore got booted cz he didnt like the direction the band was going and so he didnt put any extra time into it. and instead of talking it out, tensions built up and they parted ways. pridgen prob smokes more weed than jon theodore dipshit.. almost every member of that band smokes weed with the possible exception of isaiah owens. the band had more balls with jon hands down.
sawsosis 2 years ago 10
yeah more balls huh ur opinion is worthless hands down pridgen and molta have matured and play intense and well put together songs sorry u miss drunkenship PEOPLE MATURE IN MUSIC !!!
chud89 2 years ago
wrong!!!
cicatriz3 2 years ago
@sawsosis Yeah i agree but probally the only guy who doesnt as well is Omar,Hes been clean since about late 03, and now he doesnt even drink hes that strict.
FunK0Slap0GB 1 year ago
well sir pridgen did
cicatriz3 2 years ago
Bring back john theodore
Antoniothefat 2 years ago 2
as far as jon and thomas go. jon is the shit. thomas is too. but in my opinion jon suited the band more that's all. you may have not heard him. but you must of not listened. now all you can hear is thomas and nothing else
Corduroy1395 2 years ago
I think Im becoming one of them BAAWAAAMMMMOOOODODODO!(guitars)
Motleydru 2 years ago
which song is that???
hahabunny 2 years ago
Cassandra Gemini although on the cd it says Geminni.
also it goes for 32 minutes
HaroldFeldberg 2 years ago
i'd kill to have your set up
jon is twice as good for tmv than thomas will ever be
errorserrors 2 years ago
ok I am sick of this whole Jon vs Tom thing it's just stupid.
Jon is a great drummer who plays with his entire soul don't but I can't ever focus on his drumming it's just so in the background and also the way his kit sounded always just sounded really forgettable
but with tom you can always hear what he's doing even if you aren't focussing on him, yes he might be an agressive drummer but that doesn't mean that he lacks feeling I mean kick my teeth in if I'm wrong but isn't agression a feeling?
HaroldFeldberg 2 years ago
"ok I am sick of this whole Jon vs Tom thing it's just stupid."
funny how u say that, and then immediately decide to contribute your opinion in. from my perspective all i can analyse is that the only reason you think it's ridiculous is because people disagree with you
errorserrors 2 years ago
You know what's funny?
You're probably right and maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment but maybe I just wanted to add something with a little more substance than just "Jon plays with his entire sould" or "Thomas is too agressive" or "Tom will never replace Jon, no one can"
HaroldFeldberg 2 years ago
yes, your comment was a decent well balanced one. i appiritiate that. good job. but that doesn't discount the fact that your comment was still hugely contradictory
errorserrors 2 years ago
cassandra gemini!
stratocastermaster2 3 years ago
isn't that a SINGLE PARADIDDLE what he's doing?? correct me if i am wrong.
carlitox14 3 years ago
it is single paradiddles at the beginning and then its weird, I can't tell !
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
Actually, I read in a transcription of that beat in a magazine that they were paradiddles. It's a great groove, I love it.
mrmojorisin571 2 years ago
Sick bro! I wish I had a drummer like you to jam with!
pinkfloyd105 3 years ago
Pattern Borrowed to...? You cannot borrow something to someone.
As for the patterns, yes folks, Jon was all about paradiddles. He's a super player.
IfIfsandands 3 years ago
Nice playing! That's some tricky stuff there in that section for sure.
mattwalker21 3 years ago
Tight! Love the Volta. Question: are those single or double para-diddles you play between the hat and the snare?
YoungInfrared 3 years ago
Hey! Those are single paradiddles
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
@fabricedrummer ur a single paradiddle
fandomewhisper 9 months ago
Tut, tut, you should know (i'm sure you now do) that double paradiddles and para triplets will be played with a triplet feel. Think of the kinds of fills chad Smith does, for example at the end the chours of 'Funky Monks' where it goes '...I got a feeling for you' they are double paradiddles/para triplets.
IfIfsandands 3 years ago
your bad ass.
that was spot on!
smokedogg420 3 years ago
Fuckin a man you got that shit down pat.
dapunkof1975 3 years ago
cassandra gemini!
ixlikextoxdansex 3 years ago
it's not Cassandra Gemini!
check out the CD
it's France The Mute, track 5 : Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't A Holy Anymore (Part B : Pour Another Icepick)
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
The Tracklisting on the CD was wrong when they released it. The tracks are as follows:
1) Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus
2) The Widow
3) L'Via L'Viaquez
4) Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore
5-12) Cassandra Gemini
The CD was originally 5 tracks consisting on 70ish minutes of music, but due to EP-LP reasons, they had Cassandra Gemini split up into multiple tracks.
But track 5 is the start of the 30 minute epic entitled "Cassandra Gemini"
fyi.
dragyourvessel 3 years ago
oooooooooook
thanks
it's cristal clear now !
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
Hey, can you please do a video to show me how to do this beat lol?
This is awesome. No one ever does Jon Theodore's drumming except a few posers. You, my friend, are a pro!
AirHendrix91 3 years ago
Many thanks dude.
Ok I need more time but I'll try to shoot some other stuff from J.Theodore/Mars Volta this summer!! And I've got a better camera hehe
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
Hell yeah man, I can't wait :D. Those Led Zeppelin covers on your page are pretty good too.
Are you the drummer?
Just wonderin.
AirHendrix91 3 years ago
I'm glad you like them, they're not that popular here...
Yes I was the drummer with this band in 2002. They're good friends, we're still playing together.
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
wow ive been trying to figure out the opening pattern to that song forever
zildjianman14 3 years ago
i love this song. jon theodore is sweet. i love how he plays the paradiddle-ish pattern on the hi hat and snare.
wertzx 3 years ago
Jon Theodore is god!
You are his disciple!
AirHendrix91 3 years ago
well played! I play drums myself and admire jon theodores playing, and I am at the time struggling with exact that pattern you are playing in the vid... anyway, what is the size on the left zildjian a custom crash? sounds good, 14"??
anker91 3 years ago
thanks dude; I think the left crash was a zildjian A custom 16"
fabricedrummer 3 years ago
yay paradiddles :D
petarpwnsuall 3 years ago
dude that was really good i'm gonna watch it again, figure out that time switch, if there was one? weeet beat though
superbaddrummer 3 years ago
Very nice! Quite accurate and probably one of their hardest songs to cover. Check out my Roulette dares drum cover!
greatjorb88 3 years ago
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I love jon theodore also, but come on now...
Thomas Pridgen is the fuckin' man. BEST drummer I've ever seen live. period.
stonedgerbil 3 years ago
Very well done, you kept a fine beat, and an interesting one.
musica70 3 years ago
wow..... your ghost notes are perfect man... Jon is god but mars voltas new drummer has sum slick chops man... his not a slacker... If ne thing they probabaly as good as each other and u'd have to put it down to style
cipriano1986 3 years ago 3
so many absolutely funky phenominal grooves could be written to your drumming!!!!
scootw50 3 years ago
Sloppy.
rackyraft 3 years ago
You rule! Jon would be proud!
Too bad he's not with the Volta anymore.
I think they should put him back in :D, he's still the best drummer they've had.
AirHendrix91 4 years ago 2
u r right man!! jon is the best drummer for the volta!
drumsex 4 years ago 2
what kind of drums are those, and what size, nice!
vonluden38 4 years ago
thanx! that was a Pearl something. size was 22' 12' 16'
fabricedrummer 4 years ago
Was it? I'd swear blind that was a 10" rack tom. And were they G1 heads? I've been tempted lately to go for G1 top and bottom, but everyone says they'd be too resonant. Dunno.
JimmersThomas 4 years ago
oops sorry you're absolutely right! it's a 10" and the floor tom is a 14"
fabricedrummer 4 years ago
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you're good man
cafetv 4 years ago
Lol nice!
jaksplitter 4 years ago
You sound amazIng sir ! You must teach me
TheseArmsAreSnakes 4 years ago
hell yeah man!
yogi818 4 years ago
I love that song. I want the complete version!!!!!
Great job!!
I think i've become one of the others...
javiercamafeo 4 years ago
sick dude!
0j1o3e4l 4 years ago
cassandra geminni :)
n1 dude, it's a sick beat to reproduce.
buchayze 4 years ago 2
SPOT ON BRO. SPOT ON!
proxysutube 4 years ago
I like that!
alexklaus80 4 years ago
Your kit sounds similar to Jon's. Good stuff
22Hayesy22 4 years ago
Nice work man
hoborg87 4 years ago
isn't this a beat by the mars volta (jon theodore)??
mgreene95 4 years ago
Eagle eye!
Yes it is. By the way Jon theodore is a great drummer
fabricedrummer 4 years ago