You are half right, Hitchcock is only credited with the technique whereas his German cameraman is the one who came up with the vertigo camera technique.
@jimbobago Yeah, but Hitch invented it. You should have said "Hitchcock would be proud." But either way, it's your comment, do with it what you like...
@LaughingGravy31 Yeah but everywhere you look its called the HITCHCOCK shot. He was the one who created it. Speilberg just made an alteration of it...
@hurtinator Now can you put the camera, the subject, and the backdrop all on a Lego Mindstorms apparatus and have it automate the shot at the push of a button? ;)
@Mangani245 I agree with morris7453, Spielberg and Scheider had nothing to do with the creation of this technique, Alfred Hitchcock would be the proud one
Spielberg and Scheider have EVERYTHING to do with the creation of this particular 'shot'.
Do you know the difference between 'technique' and actual 'shot'?
In Vertigo and Marnie the reverse zoom was focused on the distance and did not focus in on a main character's face. It's the Jaws 'shot' which is endlessly imitated.
Hitchcock used it as a visual effect. Jaws used it as a characterisation.
No worries. I just get niggled when the actual 'shot' (i.e the dolly zoom onto a character's face to amplify shock or awe etc etc) is called the 'Vertigo/Hitchcock shot'.
@mediamonkeymovies Called a 'Stretch Shot'. Called a 'Vertigo effect'. Called a 'Push-Pull effect'. Called a 'Retrograde Zoom', a 'Smash Shot', a 'Contra-Zoom'. Different Directors call it different things. Look up "Dolly Zoom" on Wikipedia, and learn something.
Oh and if you DO look it up on wikipedia, there it is - called 'The trombone effect' - 15th one listed. No one person knows everything - don't be so obnoxious
@KaizVideos the dolly in which the camera is mounted on is pulled back as the camera lens zooms in on the foreground subject in this case the lego guy. it can also be achieved the other way where the dolly moves forward as the camera lens zooms out on the foreground subject. with those two zooming effects you get this effect which is also called the vertigo effect adopted in the classic film vertigo when they do the zooming effects of the stairwell.
this is so hard! i've tried it myself and i have a lot of trouble getting the zoom and the dolly backward to be the same speed. the zoom is also always a little jerky.
An easier way to do this is to just move it back a bit each frame, then handle the zoom in post pro. Most of the time, for a stop motion shot like that, you can just use a normal camera, which should capture at more than enough resolution for the footage to not become blurred when you zoom in.
this is eigendlich lighter effekt, for me at least, but I have learnt him from kameraman ... and I must say: I seldom see clips where he is so good as this. sry for my bad english but i cant speak english verry good.
its pretty simple you've got to zoom in to a picture that suits you. then you've got to move the camera in towards the subject while zooming out at the same time, just make sure you do it at the same speed.
think of it as two cars on each side of the road going at the same speed going past eachother
It's mostly down to limitations in what you can do at lego scale. Moving the camera a millimetre at a time for the dolly, then trying to match the zoom to get the guy to stay the exact same size was just about impossible, so I allowed a little scaling to keep it looking smooth.
I did it with a camcorder once, but it's really hard to keep the zoom and camera movement at the same speed. Each time, the dolly zoom only lasted a few seconds.
Since you're on such a small scale, you're not going to get a lot of actual "depth of field" out of your dolly-zoom. To make it work, you might want to consider ACTUALLY compressing your depth of field. They're legos.. so for the long shot, put your background far back, and your minifig in middle, then do your camera trick, but "help it along" by progressively moving the minifig closer to the background.
Hate to say it but you need to move the camera 1mm at at time to get a smoot result. However that was a cool effect, you can see it coming together. I have never seen anyone use the Hitchcock style zoom in a brickfilm before, it will work nicely and be a first ! (I think)
Jane is at a table in the background!
masterpiece252studio 4 weeks ago
awesome
LIBltdProductions 3 months ago
You are half right, Hitchcock is only credited with the technique whereas his German cameraman is the one who came up with the vertigo camera technique.
pfrenzy07 4 months ago
@Mangani245 What for? Hitchcock came up with it!!
JustJokingYou 9 months ago
@JustJokingYou It's a reference to a shot from "Jaws".
jimbobago 9 months ago
@jimbobago Yeah, but Hitch invented it. You should have said "Hitchcock would be proud." But either way, it's your comment, do with it what you like...
JustJokingYou 9 months ago
@JustJokingYou Agreed!!!! :P
jimbolimboboy 3 months ago
@JustJokingYou
Look, the 'technique' was from Vertigo but the actual 'shot' is from Jaws.
Hitchcock never used this technique zooming right into a character's face. James Stewart was never IN the shot in Vertigo.
In Jaws the shot zooms right into Roy Schieder's face, keeping HIM as the focus of the shot.
The 'shot' should be called the 'Jaws shot' even though the technique is from Vertigo.
Is this Lego man emulating a shot in Vertigo or Jaws? It's Jaws.
LaughingGravy31 7 months ago
@LaughingGravy31 Yeah but everywhere you look its called the HITCHCOCK shot. He was the one who created it. Speilberg just made an alteration of it...
JustJokingYou 7 months ago
@JustJokingYou
No Hitchcock created the camera 'technique' but not the actual 'shot'..
The actual SHOT and usage of the actor's face being the focal point for shock and awe was first used by Steven Spielberg in Jaws.
This 'shot' should technically be called 'The Jaws shot'.
This Lego man shot is copying the Jaws shot, not the Vertigo shot. There were no humans actors in the Vertigo shot.
LaughingGravy31 7 months ago
seems someone is posting using my name so this is a test to see if someone has breached my account.
mediamonkeymovies 10 months ago
@hurtinator Now can you put the camera, the subject, and the backdrop all on a Lego Mindstorms apparatus and have it automate the shot at the push of a button? ;)
Ayelis 10 months ago
@Mangani245 I agree with morris7453, Spielberg and Scheider had nothing to do with the creation of this technique, Alfred Hitchcock would be the proud one
fulthrottle68 1 year ago
@fulthrottle68
Spielberg and Scheider have EVERYTHING to do with the creation of this particular 'shot'.
Do you know the difference between 'technique' and actual 'shot'?
In Vertigo and Marnie the reverse zoom was focused on the distance and did not focus in on a main character's face. It's the Jaws 'shot' which is endlessly imitated.
Hitchcock used it as a visual effect. Jaws used it as a characterisation.
LaughingGravy31 7 months ago
@LaughingGravy31 Alright, I'll give you that. One thing though, I don't even remember writing that comment, and it was also 9 months ago so you win.
fulthrottle68 7 months ago
@fulthrottle68
No worries. I just get niggled when the actual 'shot' (i.e the dolly zoom onto a character's face to amplify shock or awe etc etc) is called the 'Vertigo/Hitchcock shot'.
LaughingGravy31 7 months ago
Called a 'trombone shot'
mediamonkeymovies 1 year ago
@mediamonkeymovies Called a 'Stretch Shot'. Called a 'Vertigo effect'. Called a 'Push-Pull effect'. Called a 'Retrograde Zoom', a 'Smash Shot', a 'Contra-Zoom'. Different Directors call it different things. Look up "Dolly Zoom" on Wikipedia, and learn something.
Ayelis 10 months ago
@Ayelis
so you know everything do you?? Also called a trombone shot - get a life!
mediamonkeymovies 10 months ago
@Ayelis
Oh and if you DO look it up on wikipedia, there it is - called 'The trombone effect' - 15th one listed. No one person knows everything - don't be so obnoxious
mediamonkeymovies 10 months ago
@Mangani245 What about Hitchcock? You know, the guy who invented this movement..?
morris7453 1 year ago
how do you do these animation things pleace tell me
KaizVideos 1 year ago
@KaizVideos the dolly in which the camera is mounted on is pulled back as the camera lens zooms in on the foreground subject in this case the lego guy. it can also be achieved the other way where the dolly moves forward as the camera lens zooms out on the foreground subject. with those two zooming effects you get this effect which is also called the vertigo effect adopted in the classic film vertigo when they do the zooming effects of the stairwell.
FallofDarkness55 1 year ago
you moved the lego man! thats cheating! xD
superpenisdude 1 year ago
dolly zoom?
cubeproduktions 2 years ago
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the size of the subject was not maintained. is it that difficult to do a good job?
baddmanaz 2 years ago
The size of the subject does not have to be maintained. See: Jaws, or any other that chooses to change the size of the subject.
BlueOceanBelow 2 years ago
wow, what a dick.
birdiejoehoaks 2 years ago
jesus, baddmanaz, did you have to pay to get in or something?
norristerse 2 years ago
@baddmanaz unfortunately you're retarded.
PutItAway101 1 year ago
this is so hard! i've tried it myself and i have a lot of trouble getting the zoom and the dolly backward to be the same speed. the zoom is also always a little jerky.
completepoems 2 years ago
not bad. well done!
jackchrisevans 2 years ago 2
An easier way to do this is to just move it back a bit each frame, then handle the zoom in post pro. Most of the time, for a stop motion shot like that, you can just use a normal camera, which should capture at more than enough resolution for the footage to not become blurred when you zoom in.
LazyCoder 3 years ago
this is eigendlich lighter effekt, for me at least, but I have learnt him from kameraman ... and I must say: I seldom see clips where he is so good as this. sry for my bad english but i cant speak english verry good.
Ebon88 3 years ago
You dont say..
cortguy 2 years ago
Makes you wonder if Hitchcock would have smiled at a test like this. Thanks for sharing.
Dewfilms 3 years ago 2
i love LOVE this effect!
danielaaa 3 years ago
this looks hard to do
bubblytar 4 years ago
its pretty simple you've got to zoom in to a picture that suits you. then you've got to move the camera in towards the subject while zooming out at the same time, just make sure you do it at the same speed.
think of it as two cars on each side of the road going at the same speed going past eachother
Sean2122dd 3 years ago 2
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The object on the foreground has to stay at the exact same size. Yours is getting bigger and later smaller. This is not a good Dolly zoom.
bmwforlife46 4 years ago
picky
Tkreft1128 4 years ago
It's mostly down to limitations in what you can do at lego scale. Moving the camera a millimetre at a time for the dolly, then trying to match the zoom to get the guy to stay the exact same size was just about impossible, so I allowed a little scaling to keep it looking smooth.
0ldScratch 4 years ago 3
I did it with a camcorder once, but it's really hard to keep the zoom and camera movement at the same speed. Each time, the dolly zoom only lasted a few seconds.
LightMyFire92 4 years ago
Since you're on such a small scale, you're not going to get a lot of actual "depth of field" out of your dolly-zoom. To make it work, you might want to consider ACTUALLY compressing your depth of field. They're legos.. so for the long shot, put your background far back, and your minifig in middle, then do your camera trick, but "help it along" by progressively moving the minifig closer to the background.
winterarcadia 4 years ago
I have been playing around with Contra zooms in animation before, and it is pretty tricky to get right. Nice attempt though, it's looking good.
SJPO 4 years ago
Nice, better than wikipedias version ;)
legofilmer24 4 years ago
Hate to say it but you need to move the camera 1mm at at time to get a smoot result. However that was a cool effect, you can see it coming together. I have never seen anyone use the Hitchcock style zoom in a brickfilm before, it will work nicely and be a first ! (I think)
FunnyBoysFilms 4 years ago
Have you reposted this ? - As it is really smooth now. Looks like you have cracked it, it looks great.
FunnyBoysFilms 4 years ago
Exactly the same as before. Maybe you had a rough connection or something.
0ldScratch 4 years ago