Should we abolish the 14th amendment?And what should we do about Social Security?

[fivequotes]

nice question.

[BarryMaurice]

lolwut

[mikethequeenfan]

I believe that the 14th amendment should be thrown away. In my opnion, only those who are becoming naturalized citizens, are legal immigrants, or are born and bred US citizens should have the policy of "If they're born in the US, they are citizens". Also, on the topic of social security, I do believe that it should be pushed to 70. With the rapidly increasing population, as well as increasing life expectancy, the program won't last too long.

[taadhi2003]

Tea party is good, we support them.

[moosehead5757]

The 14th would be ratified. The constitution has been ratified so everybody just needs to stop freaking out. The key words in the 14th admendment is "under the jurisdiction of". Illegals are NOT under the jurisdication of this country. Children are bound to their parents. They are citizens of the country that their parents are nationals of. No big deal. No other developed country lets u come in that country illegally have children and make them citizens. Get with it USA!

[moosehead5757]

What is the point that the newreporters are trying to make? Come on, use some common sense here. The parent(s) are here illegally. The children should not be made citizens of this country. That gives them the rights to all entitlements in this country. What is so hard about this issue? The parents are in the country illegally, any children born to them are not citizens of this country. Thats it!

[moosehead5757]

The 14th admendment will not be abolished but re interpreted.  There will be no reform because its hasnt been enforcement.

[ShmizzyMcGriddles]

Immigration reform? Let's pull our National Guard troops out of Iraq and let them police our own borders and let foreign nations take care of their own business.

[hereinthebronx]

we can't be everything to everyone

let the buck stop here cos we just dont have the money.

[ashleypoo1319]

I should interject here that we actually do need immigration reform, and if we had it, all this talk about fourteenth amendment would be for naught

[MTPOMPEY]

What? You"ll pay more than you receive??? Who ever said SSI was a savings plan! Americans pay into it and the government redistributes it based on need - not contribution. What a joke - are you for real? I wish we could limit SSI to what folks contributed - most recipients would never receive a dime... or would receive benefits for about 10 years and then wonder who will GIVE them money for nothing...

[DrBeardo]

If we abolish it McCain can be president, though I'd prefer Predator era AHHHHNold as prresident, anyone have a time machine?

What we need is a new, new deal. Upgrade the entire nation's infrastructure, Geothermal and Solar thermal power plants, maglev cross country rail, FTTH, all areas within 400 miles of the coasts should get 100% of their water from desalination plants.

This would break dependence on oil, coal and natural gas and nuclear power and set us up for the future.

[ashleypoo1319]

@DrBeardo indeed i was just thinking about FDR and the new deal stuff. We haven't upgraded anything in forever, so there is no demand for the things we should be building but don't. We need to completely reform the tax code, medical infrastructure, everything. Of course, money is generally needed for that, and a congress willing, but it's a good idea for sure

[DrBeardo]

@ashleypoo1319 As long as the US is a wholly owned subsidiary we have 0 chance of any of the things I mentioned, Spain has had luck with their solar thermal towers. The french and Aussies are going with geothermal, France and Germany, but the Swiss pussied out as it triggers localized minor earthquakes, never anything past a 3 so there really isn't much to worry about.

[ashleypoo1319]

@DrBeardo Yes, i imagine the only chance to reform our country deeply would be like when England was almost destroyed in WW2, and they decided to rebuild their country from scratch, starting with a single payer health care system. I wouldn't want a world war or anything like that to trigger it though. I wish we could do it ourselves

[NappyGirlMusic]

I think their really dumb for wantin to change the 14th amendment like wtf?! They need to stop bein selfish and ruining peoples lives. Maybe their parents wanted a better life for em cause America is supposely all that Great...but if they change it their kids won't get that. Ugh their so annoying and the social thing...I don't think they should raise it but actually lower it a couple years cause old people are tired and have too many health problems to be workin. Dangg our goverment is dumb!

[Tadek59]

The interesting video !

[bp12009]

agree with beatmanspark in many parts because the only people who wants the 14 amendment to be abolish are the greedy people who only care about them self and don't realize not everyone is as lucky as them.

[ashleypoo1319]

@bp12009 Honestly, and this will sound pretty bad but it's true, the people who want the 14th amendment abolished are white christian conservatives who feel that their 'traditions' are being encroached on by the 'foreigners'. It's not even about immigrants, it's about cultural identity and in some cases, racism. That's why all the paranoia over obama's birth certificate.

[gearhead291]

idk.

LMAO. theres nothing I can do about it anyway.

[BeatManSpank]

Sadly stuff like this is used by both parties for political posturing- dividing us at party lines. Instead of focusing on solutions, they're always quick to point out flaws in the opposing party's ideology; thusly, boiling down to a "who's side are you on" type of argument.  We can quibble on the blogosphere about who's right and who's wrong until our fingers bleed, but these problems won't go away until we all get out of denial. Of course, some of us are in a deeper denial than others.

[BeatManSpank]

These are very touchy subjects, but conversations that really do need to happen. Perhaps the 14th Amendment could be updated with certain provisions and/ or exclusions (this is where it gets tricky eg allowing legal status to those born before a certain date? IDK, I'm no lawyer.) As far as the gargantuan task of reforming OASDHI? Like anything else, it all boils down to money and where to get it. The only logical solution would be to raise taxes: enter the robbing Peter to pay Paul argument.

[nativemrv19722]

On the flip side of that is all the whites born in America should go back to Europe. I don't agree with it. Another way to bend the law to favor them.ALL Hispanics should realize  that Republicans are not your friend. Man they really love to piss off people. One thing after another. Just get the companies are people that hire them.

[BlackTalkMedia]

The Tea Party and the Republicans are always talking about getting back to Constitutional Government or applying it as the original founders wrote it but these are false or hypocritical arguments because the founders made provisions to amend the Constitution and whenever a issue arises that they do not like but is Constitutional they want to change it. You see how ridiculous their positions are and contradicting?

[personkid20]

you and I would still be in chains and this may very be a way to put you back into them.......

please do as much reading by Black yes, non europeans sources if possible if you haven't already.

read books by Dr Chancellor Williams, Dr John Henrick Clarke, Prof Mwalimu K Baruti, Dr Amos Wilson, Dr Ivan Van Sertima,Dr Francis Cress Welsing, research material by Prof Bobby E Wright, Dr Joy DeGruy,Prof Tony Martin, Prof Eric Williams,