Scion Tc vs. Integra B18 vs. Turbo Eclipse

[ericebbaker]

Get a gst and a better driver and that tc would BE SMOKED

[CSOCSO]

@ericebbaker yeah:D but no guy with a gst came up to me telling me that he can smoke me...

[ericebbaker]

@CSOCSO ITs cause nobody has wanted to waste there time on a TC. People want a challenge and somthing that can keep up. TC = Slow.

[rhythmnsmoke]

@ericebbaker Guess you would consider a brand new BMW M3 slow if it was getting it's ass handed to it by me in my tC at a Road Course huh?

[ALJKDUPONDEW513]

Tcs are slow bra... I dunno what was in the teg but

[rhythmnsmoke]

@ALJKDUPONDEW513 Stick to video games and leave the comments to people who know what they are talking about.

[ported7]

i'll just say that for what a TC is its badass!Mine was 18k i work at toyota,u can upgrade the 180hp quite a bit...i had an srt4 ,love this car way more,65 miles on it! bad ass gas mileage and it screams!!

[sharpshot411]

..... A gst would destroy yout tc, not be just as fast it would be MUCH faster.

[melvingoku]

idk how u kept up with any of them bc my sohc ka 240sx beats my gf's bone stock

[getoutheway]

LOL TC'S ARE FUKING SLOW

[hatejapanesecars]

@rhythmnsmoke what do you drive? a tC? that's a car you can spend 10k modding and it would barely be better than a civic Si. IIRC, the ITR beat the new civic Si in a comparison test, and the R was 10 years older. (1998 vs 2008 i believe). how about you let me drop 10k on my type R? you wouldnt be able to catch me.

[rhythmnsmoke]

@hatejapanesecars 10k modding and barely better than a Civic SI? BHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAA!!!! Ok, wake me up when you stop smoking the heroin.

[M3TurboE46]

Seriously why do people even bother racing tc's they are HORRIBLY slow

[CSOCSO]

@M3TurboE46 why do you even bother to post a comment on this video?

go back feed tires to your pitbull

[M3TurboE46]

@CSOCSO That's what I'm wondering LOL You should feel honored!!......I like integra's and my daily driver is a 13 sec eclipse gst......Even my winter beater would crush your shit bro real talk

[CSOCSO]

@M3TurboE46 you da mean bro... i hope you have some friends like yourself... or it must be really boring to being the only retard dick around that part of the town.

[spikekilla117]

@M3TurboE46 if you're braggin about 13 sec passes then i'm gonna lmao. my fwd base model talon did mid-high 12's on tsi internals and 16g on low boost

[LanEvo21]

@M3TurboE46 DUde, if you think you got a 13 sec gst, post a vid to prove it. Don't be talking trash on CSOCSO's vids or anyone's vids. You're lucky they even posted it up. I think his TC is pretty fast. Good work CSOCSO and thanks for posting the vid.

[jaunisaboss]

@M3TurboE46

not really my buddy has a turbo tc they quick as shit if you put 3 grand into it

[mancannon11]

@M3TurboE46 no its the people driving the tc's because i go to the races in philly and i keep up with vtech's and my boys 3000gt.

[eclipsegsx765]

@M3TurboE46 all FWD 4cyl are slow stock :)

[pureinsanity615]

we got some ignorant ass kids up in here talkin. It's pretty funny. That tc and eclipse are in a different class then that ls integra tyrna pass up as a type R. Haha pretty sad knowing that's only a b18b1 non vtec. I drive an integra and my gf drives a tc. Don't get me wrong it's a quick car but it could barley pull on my ls and we have about the same mods. Tell that mofo in the ls integra to drop a real motor in his sht b4 droppin a type r sticker. So many honda haters here.

[hatejapanesecars]

@pureinsanity615 agree. i own a REAL type R. it's superior to all the lower integras in every way possible. it's not even a straight line car, and it can handle those types of races well nonetheless. throw in curves, and the type R is gone.

[Cangri226]

would somebody please pass the damn eclipse,i got tired of seeing those ugly ass ebay tail lights

[hatejapanesecars]

@Cangri226 a real deal ITR would beat it :P

[rhythmnsmoke]

@hatejapanesecars I would walk all over your ITR, so stop going around to all the Scion videos talking crap.

[AdvancedPearl]

@Cangri226  Friend, I have a 2G Eclipse and I freaking hate those tail lights too.

[JerzyIroc]

o_O

[sctflasher379]

are the 2gen gst's slow wat?? i thought they were fast..

[CSOCSO]

@sctflasher379 that isnt a gst... gst's are fairly fast... probably as faster than my tc as i was faster than that yellow ls

i raced him because he said he's gonna smoke me...

[sctflasher379]

@CSOCSO ok good becuz i want to get one but not if theyre slow lol i dont know, its jus hard to get the real feel of em from videos ya know?? but yea

[stoone113]

@sctflasher379

a gst or a gsx would have blown his doors off that was just a normal stock gs

[ITRSpeedy]

Don't smack on a type R sticker if you don't have the motor to back it up. Silly silly.

[ITRSpeedy]

soo a b18 means u could have been racing a ls 140hp teggy.

tht tc is purddy quick tho

[stonedick11]

lol dont know why yall trying to hype up the eclipse, put a turbo on that b18 and see what happens!!! LOL Done seen it to many times, i like a eclipse but there just a maintenance car, if you got the money there good!!!

[straiightjdm]

you couldve done wayyy better for 20K TC's are parked. even with i/h/e

[liquidz28]

shoulda baught a DSM and put 10 grand into it,

but then again if you did that you'd prolly be dead by now, good selection on the slower car...

[hatejapanesecars]

@liquidz28 but then his transmission would blow up ;)

[liquidz28]

9psi the eclipse is runnin stock boost...its a 14 second car from the factory....tc's a 16 second car from the factory....integra is a family car from the factory LOL, any car with usable rear seats is a family car from the factory.....and ya, had you got a GSX and with just 400 bux you could get it into the low 13's, 1200 bux gets you into the mid 12's, 6 grand gets you in the 10's, 10 grand and you'll have a super hard time finding someone worth racing...

[ProTuner06]

@liquidz28 Just a quick correction, the tC does 15.1 at the 1/4. I've done that time and so has rythmnsmoke. A 1/4 is always dependant to where you live. Elevation, temps, etc. Also, any car with rear seats is a family car? SO, your saying that EVO's, STI's, Camaro's, SRT4's, 2010 Shelby GT500!, etc etc are all family cars? I'm not sure if I or any other car enthusiast can agree with that.

[hatejapanesecars]

@ProTuner06 last i remember, rear seats in a 'stang don't even count as baby seats :P

[monkeyturd15]

three!

[Elchiva602]

thats a fkn slow as s gst my cousin would be rapin on 5.0 mustangs shitty driver too

[gtdrummerdude]

Eclipse GST's only run like 15.1 so whatever 5.0 your cousin blew away must have been beat the hell out of.

[stretch91301]

I'm gonna throw a wrench in this debate lol. I have an 08 tc. Intake, plugs, headers, and full exhaust. And not to trash any of these cars. But...throw a turbo'd supra in there and it'd spank 'em all like nothin'. Lol

[clipzboi]

dude thats my friends grandma driven that gst i remember him telling me bout this turtle race.

[JDMgst23]

damn that was the slowest racing i have ever see

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[illeagleracing]

hondas just plain sck nuts

scion tcs are ok for a cheap econo car

DSM turbos kill em both and are not really in this class

Also if the eclipse has a bigger trubo and exhaust tell that moron to hit me up for some tuning advice he should crush the tc

[CSOCSO]

the eclipse burned down long time ago... hes got an rx7 turbo now.

the honda is gone too and as soon as i get a turbo i will rape mitsu eclipses and evos. htxbye

[illeagleracing]

@illeagleracing Stock i guess so lol yr funny. Race mine its just a 1g talon tsi awd but get yr turbo first yr gonna need it.

[rhythmnsmoke]

Until the tC is turboed to that is. And what class would Eclipse be in...Oh wait...Sport Compact class, same as the others.

[nick19117]

haha i will smake your little all motor honda in my tc just dynoed at 230 so i mean hondas are bullshit and will always be if you wanna get a turbied honda i have an all motor lexus sc430 that will eat that right up

[Ls1Willis]

omg these cars are so damn slow dude seriously.

[CSOCSO]

dude... this is what you get for under 20k.... and no.. i dont want to buy an old sport car.

[Ls1Willis]

actually you can get a GTO, a camaro, a mach 1 or an srt4 for under 20k and they're all fast

[CSOCSO]

i wanted a new car under 20k. i didnt wanted a car with 60k miles.

[le2000ry]

I SMOKE THE TC D16Z6 ALL MOTOR EJ1

[CSOCSO]

u comment the same shit on everyone's video...

btw i would be amazed if a tc could kill an all motor civic... go ahead and race an all motor 200 hp tc and good luck catching it at the next red light.

[iwaz626]

check engine light is on!

[CSOCSO]

'cause of the o2 sensor. its fixed now.

[iwaz626]

cool,, mine starts going on and off too,, because i bought an intake from a friend and didnt know that it was for an 07-09 tC mine was an 06, so it has different sensor.

[CSOCSO]

ouch..... fix it very fast! you not supposed to drive like that.

[wacko9956]

haha min just went on today after i changed the injectors

[Balowin]

Eclipse are just problem after problem

[asdf43100]

hey im looking into getting a gt eclipes or tc which would be better for performance?

i hear that a tc modded can do really good if u put stuff on it tho.

idk much about cars so dont talk shit plz

[CSOCSO]

well.... first you have to decide what you want.... older but cheaper car or new but you have to reach deeper in your pocket...

imho tC looks much better. especially when you dont go rice just a nice lip kit, rims and slam.

about the turbo... probably the turbo for the eclipse is cheaper... turbo for a scion could cost from 2500-4500. you could get 260-300 hp on stock internals without any problem.

[AbrahamLopezSJ]

id go with a 2000-2001 integra gsr, this yellow one must be an ls. gsr vtec is the way to go! cheaper, looks bettermore parts body and engine to buy....has more potential!!

[juanox10]

id go integra ls, and then get a h2b swap.... thats what i did :)... it pulls like a montherf***.. i eat tc's,rsx-s,eclipses,gsr's all day!!!

[TheLeeno]

HA, eclipse must have been stock and needs driver mod, nice scion, but still slow!

[shonzy7]

that eclipse doesnt know how to race

[TheLeeno]

For real, what kinda times is that scion running? 13's maybe, ha my 90awd could run high twelves if launched fully... and its still on stock fuel system.

[rhythmnsmoke]

Could and Does are two different things. You have no vids on your youtube page of it, so can't believe what you say.

[rhythmnsmoke]

And this tC has I/H/E so no, it does not run 13's. I/H/E would put him in the 14.7-14.8 range.

[gaivoron]

none of you got nothing on me!!!!! got Z28 with twin turbo

[rhythmnsmoke]

Joking right? Find it hard to believe a dude with a bunch of Harry Potter clips on his Youtube page, has a TT Z28....LOL!!!

[bampire25]

hahahaha gaviron is a weenie..

[infectrus]

sure that eclipse is turbo? heh mystock 1g will walk a gsr and TC, even with bpu

[CSOCSO]

cant you here the bov? right at 00:40 and 00:47

[infectrus]

eh, then must be MASSIVE boost leak, and/or shitty driver...

[civoreb]

lol the eclipse 0-60 is 7.1 for non convertible, the convertible is 7.6 lol slow as balls.

[Icefiredragon08]

Yes, but that is stock if you top out the performance on it, you can get a good 3 secs out of it if u tune it right, same with the tC

[BoostedYards86]

so these are all mid 15+ sec cars...upsetting

[supersonoc]

nice driven looked like integra go ls

[pballer2005]

looked like an integra LS.

[byebyehooptie]

Nice driving skills man! Love me some Sci-OOOOOOooown!

[mr3ggroll]

eclipse has little more hp and is little more lighter

[CSOCSO]

it does have more hp but its not lighter.

its heavier than the tC by 200 pounds.

[ERICLSTRUNK]

Scion = SLOW!

[Scionracer170]

haha Tc's own fuckin integra's

[mancannon11]

@Scionracer170 i raced a red integra on i95 and beat him. people need to recognize that tc's arnt slow with people who know how drive behind the wheel.

[saburna91]

@mancannon11  hell ya !!

[VA99GS]

@Scionracer170

lol are you serious? TC's fuckn blow dude check out my integra video, I'm tired of people talking shit on cars when they probably have never even touched a wrench to any part on their own car.

[UnholySatyr]

knock that psi on the eclipse up christ.. those internals are made for it.

[CSOCSO]

ironically that car is burned down completely

[FagSlayer69]

hahahaha. Oh god, that reminds me of my car. It's a 2g gsx, and it's really fast...when it runs.

[cordsrt4]

what im trying to figure out is how the tc is hanging with a gst with only i/h/e.because i have a 95 gst w 6bolt swap,not nowhere near stock anymore but when it was i was running only 10 and killed someone i know very well easily.and he could shift very well.his had i/h/e/ and weight reductions.just puzzled im not saying it acnt be beaten by one cause a guy down here has a white turboed one and it ran 13.6 at red river raceway.

[CalvinDyals]

every1 knows the b18 sux without vtec i bet a b18c gsr would eat the scion alive and i dont think i have to mention the b18c5 type r motor... i mean come on i have a SOHC d15b in a 4dr with long ass gears with just a intake exhaust and ecu tuning an i can eat a b18b LS all day every day ... even with the same mods as me

[CSOCSO]

gsr are not that faster than a manual tc...

[CalvinDyals]

i believe that all depends on the driver.. ive seen a gsr beat a manual tc

[rhythmnsmoke]

That would mean that it's a drivers race.

[Sasukeuchihavsneji]

I have to deny that because my 93 with a custom intake beat a 4dr Civic w/B16 swap walked all over him

[CalvinDyals]

.......... i find that a lil hard to believe.. u may have him weight wise but that not enough to take him... get a vid of it and show me and ill give u MAD respect for ur ride

[southsidesoldiers87]

dude this is absolutly not fare. you mention the type R sticker givin 2whp but you fail to mention the eclipse after market tail lights givin waight reduction and 7whp. lol

[CalvinDyals]

.......LMMFAO......

[shattabwoy5]

yeah that is my jetta on my page but that was a video when i first got my jetta like in 06 bone stock its runing 13s now with out a big turbo set up (but like most people say turbo is turbo) its running a k04-22 a factory turbo that comes from teh dealer....

[CSOCSO]

integra ls cant keep up with a manual tc... maybe u all have gsr's or u guys racing stock auto tc's...

or probably the one who raced u with a tc cant drive...

[CubanPaintballer]

the driver in the integra sucks at driving

[CSOCSO]

uhum... why is that?

[CubanPaintballer]

because i have 6 friends with integras just like yours and they lay down tc's like nothing.

[rhythmnsmoke]

Right

[Iceman04503]

I've seen more chicks driving Honda Civics than tCs.

[southsidesoldiers87]

reason why you see that my friend is because honda give's them that orgasim the seek.

[ProTuner06]

@Iceman04503 Sooo true! There are wayyyyy more chicks in my area driving civics and most of the tC's I see are drivin' by dudes.

[bigbilly29]

@Iceman04503 And ive seen more girls driving mustangs than both combined

[shattabwoy5]

tc isnt that a chic car....lmbo ive only seen 1 tc that actually ran a good time u have to put a big turbo kit on it to run 14s that bad...

[CSOCSO]

you think what you think, but its wrong.. BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!

[shattabwoy5]

what else is killing me is the vid says the integra is running a b16 thats an civic si motor why would u swap out the b18 that it comes with for a much smaller slower motor ....is that why the scion won?

[rhythmnsmoke]

What do you drive? The Jetta on your page? What does it run? Do you consider a 16G a big turbo?

[rhythmnsmoke]

Stock, tC's do low 15's.  Nothing is fast that cost less than 20k.

[drfrisker]

lol at type r sticker +2whp

[scionxb63]

wow bro would not talk about other ppl shifts if u cant shit yourself haha sounds nice tho

[CSOCSO]

oh.. wow.. a scion owner is hating the other scion owner... wow.. aren't u an ex-hondaboy?

btw pls let me know why cant i "shit" myself!!

[TheRealOneEye]

*sigh*

Stop getting so worked up over dumb people. Just ignore them dude.

The only thing that I have against Scions is that, well they're Scions. I'm not saying they're chick cars and I'm not saying that they're terrible cars. All I really mean is that they are a little low-end compared to other cars that serious tuners usually decide to mod.

I don't claim to race or tune any cars of my own though, so my opinion doesn't really count for much anyway...

[DB8TURBO]

That Integra had to be an LS. Because you would NEVER beat a real B18(C)GSR. Especially from a roll.

[CSOCSO]

yepp it wasnt a GSR. never raced a GSR so far.... well.. i did not race no one for a while

[rhythmnsmoke]

Even if it was a GSR, it's a drivers race stock vs stock. They run about the same 1/4 mile times.

[ScionCrazy08]

Somebody knows their information. Both of these cars run about the same times. Even if the Teggy with the B18 were driven well, the Tc would presumably keep up.

[rhythmnsmoke]

Thanks man. I find it amazing how an overwhelming majority of internet users think the tC is so slow in stock form yet it either beats out, or keeps up with cars they consider to be decently quick or good performing.

[carboneclipse3g]

9 pounds of boost my ass, if he had 9 pounds he would have killed both of you, i raced a tc with a greddy headers and exhaust and i killed the hit out of him, and all i have is an intake, exhaust, and a stage 4 clutch, plus a bunch of carbon and no interior but my point is that the tc is a slow car and a car with a pro built tubo would kill any 4cyl non turbo car

[CSOCSO]

9 pounds.. thats what he said. btw the car burnt down so it might had some issues...

a manual tc is not a slow car compared to a 17k msrp!!!!

[pancit7]

the tc isnt boosted? hmm..

[CSOCSO]

my tc isnt boosted

[junkaperson]

wat a ricer wit blue lights in his car

[CSOCSO]

it could be my camera's white balance.. it was an 8k HIDs. they not that blue.

[junkaperson]

oh my bad i thought u had blue lights in the car

[CSOCSO]

oh i totally misread what you wrote. yes i got blue lights in the car :D

and no its not ricer since it doesnt make my car look go fast...

[tristantao]

this may sound REALLY irrelevent, but would u prefer a stock 05 G35 coupe 6spd,

or 05 Scion tC 5 spd w/ either turbonetics or GReddy.

pushing 8PSI, getting 240 Whp.

and they cost the same to purchase?

[billabongsur]

what kind of headlights does the Eclipse have?

[CSOCSO]

i have no idea. the car burnt down a few months ago. :(

[blakasassin1]

is b18 better then b17 and b16???

[ceetboy]

yes but k series is better

[blakasassin1]

kk lol

[DriftAkademiks]

Integra-Torqueless wonder.

[minidakota318]

sssssllllllooooww, slllooooooooooooooow, slooooooow, sloooow. sloww. mmm 5 speed :)

[gooey41]

The integra could've been running with a swap.

[chadtriemert]

Why is the eclipse only have 9 psi?? Thats less than stock boost....

[CSOCSO]

idk.. thats what he told me.. maybe he was wrong.

[djrecrem2k3]

that had to have been an LS integra not a GSR. but good races

[FaTaLD33]

i juz put up a vid of my scion...check it out

[FaTaLD33]

Nice video...i liked all the cars...especially the eclipse headlights...juz seemed like he needs 2 learn 2 push his turbo

[07wtc]

you do know a type r is a b18 right?

[Sauce3]

I Also own a tC. Great car and the Scion community is great. Theres always someone out there willing to help you out on shit.

[jking259]

my truck is faster then this

[CSOCSO]

then go out and suck your cars tailpipe

[yayapfool]

are scion tc's a good choice for a street raceing kinda car? might get one with some other stuff

[CSOCSO]

if you want to go turbo its a pretty good car, but if you want to street race get a cheap honda.. put good motor in it.. and almost everything is half price compared to a scion

scion is a good car.. with awesome ppl behind it.

we have lot of cars shows by the dealerships, we always get free stuff, etc etc.. i love the community... its like having a harley davidson... kinda...

[Koolgecko9001]

Nah, get the Scion. Turbocaharge it. You'll be running 300hp off the stock engine. With a partialy rebuild...you can get your engine pushing 450 HP...and that will have you shitting on people...unless your racing Porches or some shit.

[acroracing]

The tail light on the eclipse must add boost right?

[CSOCSO]

???

what do you mean? i think hes got stock tails.. but not sure..

[acroracing]

look at 1:34.... some sort of ebay lights.

[mastoslayerica]

shouldnt the teg win? is it a gsr?

[fr1025]

ill rip these cars wit my 1999 cougar

[CSOCSO]

i'll rip your gf after she jumps in my car instead of your ugly old flinstones auto

[king276]

OOOO burned ur ass haha cougars r ugly

but the animals r kool

[sevendust9259]

lol who the hell races a cougar? Get a real car.

[Nyohttekotte]

good job good job

did you get the blue light inside the car custom added or is it one of the options when you bought the car?

[NRGYiDJ]

ahahah tC nt baby nice video

[QUICK1DC2]

THAT ECLIPSE NEEDS WORK  IT'S SLOW

[CSOCSO]

yeah... it was.. btw it burned out 1 month ago :(

[QUICK1DC2]

and if that was a B18 he needs help to my 98 pulls hard but then again i have a b18 bottom end wit a b16 head LS-VTEC bitches holla @ me lol

[sheepy729]

is this state road 9 ?

[CSOCSO]

maybe:)

[sheepy729]

lol the last 3 times i was at that place the cops came

[CSOCSO]

yeah i know.. that was the first and last time i went there.

[hookedonlucy]

scionlife FTW

[tsiturbomightym]

So we have a torqueless wonder (gay honda) vs. a eco friendly tree hugger (scion) vs. the badass 4g63, should I mention that its stock, that misses second and still almost takes the honda? Lol honda ftl, scion dont even try and eclipse FTMFW!!

[CSOCSO]

eco friendly tree hugger scion? you are an idiot.. what you talking about is the prius.

eclipse is slow.

at the end he wasnt miss shifted and i could keep up with him.

if i would have turbo i would beat the crap out of that eclipse..