@Swenglish thanks, I think you're right about the elastic gravity thing for some shots with sweetums when they need both arms moving, but when he's talking I think there's an arm in there, I'll have to rig some sort of elastics in the head shortly, I also have to rebuild his hands, they aren't working as good as I'd like them :)
@tbonepearson Weird thought just hit me, which I'm not sure if it's been done but it probably has: Toe-operated jaw. Bit of rope tied around the foot pulling the jaw down, bit of elastic pulling it back up. Might work for non-walking shots.
@Swenglish Gravity? He's a puppet. Puppets mouths are moved by a performer's HAND. This moron in the video is correct about how the puppet will work, but he has no idea what the hell he's doing.
@MrHarrythehipster There's more than one way to move a jaw. It's fully possible to have it suspended by elastic bands (or metal springs) and moving via bobbing of the head. Not the traditional way of doing it, but with a large puppet head to be worn as part of a costume it makes sense, as it leaves the hands free to do other stuff. It's also possible to have it on a string controlled by a foot or by a second performer. Yet another way is animatronics, but that's a lot more complicated.
@Swenglish Yes, you're correct. Sorry, I should have been more specific in my last comment. What I was getting at was: Sweetums IS manipulated using the performer's hand. Watch some clips from The Muppet Show and the Muppet movies, you'll see that when his mouth is moving, his right arm is either pinned to his waste, or just hanging freely at his side. Watch Muppet Voice Comparisons: Sweetums. It will give you a wide range of examples.
Overall, it's totally awesome! But, after watching all the puppet videos, I can't help but worry about the actor inside. Safety first. Great job! Love seeing all the making of, videos you are putting out. And, it does get people, more excited to see season 2!
@wolfbracker Thanks man, lol, I should put a notice before the show saying " No puppeteer was hurt during filming of this production", joking aside the puppets are quite safe to operate the only thing that gets me is my forearm and wrist but that's just because I don't practice enough.
@tbonepearson With all the shoutouts you've given me and my channel. I'm not gonna touch that one. Especially the last part of the paragraph. LOL. But, if that statement don't get people talking, I don't know what will.
You might need a counter balance weight because, he's heavier in the front than in the back. I think the actor would have to hold the head up with the hand that goes in the mouth. Again, if he's a bad guy, then not seeing much of his eyes is a good thing. But, if he's a good guy, then his eyebrows need to be smaller, so more of his eyes can be seen. In anime, they make the villian's eyes really small. And, the hero's eyes big. Cause, the eyes are the window into the soul.
I'm still trying to figure out, if Wooty is a good guy or a bad guy. I know, I'll find out in season two. LOL. The color of the ears and nose is just right. I think the bottom lip should be brighter color. So as to draw attention to his mouth when he talks. Thank goodness, you changed the color of the red horns! Much needed improvement! The red horns did make him look evil or like a devil. It's kinda of hard to give feedback, cause, I don't know, it he's a friend or a bad guy.
@tbonepearson I'm glad, because sometimes I do feel bad leaving feedback. Because, I know everyone is trying their best and I'm sure a lot of hard work goes into not only making the puppets but also making the spellfury series. See, I was thinking that it was your intentions to make Wooty look evil, but be a really sweet and friendly monster. So, as to subvert or take the audience by surprise. So, in a way, this really adds more to the story already. And, part 1 of season 2, isn't out yet.
@wolfbracker I love honest opinions and constructive criticism, I like your idea but Wooty has to be good coming out of the gates for the story, I'm pretty happy with him as is though, I might do a few more changes :)
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mynamemaycontainAtoZ 2 weeks ago
really cool man love all of it :)
ToeJamProduktions 2 months ago
@ToeJamProduktions Thanks!
paulgordonca 2 months ago
@paulgordonca uuuummmm ok i was talking to tbonepearson but ok...
ToeJamProduktions 2 months ago
This is a really awesome project. Very sweetums-esque, though I think Sweetums's jaw was done with elastic and gravity rather than hand-manipulation.
Swenglish 5 months ago
@Swenglish thanks, I think you're right about the elastic gravity thing for some shots with sweetums when they need both arms moving, but when he's talking I think there's an arm in there, I'll have to rig some sort of elastics in the head shortly, I also have to rebuild his hands, they aren't working as good as I'd like them :)
tbonepearson 5 months ago
@tbonepearson Weird thought just hit me, which I'm not sure if it's been done but it probably has: Toe-operated jaw. Bit of rope tied around the foot pulling the jaw down, bit of elastic pulling it back up. Might work for non-walking shots.
Swenglish 5 months ago
@Swenglish Clever! Might give it a shot :)
tbonepearson 5 months ago
@tbonepearson Love the whole bicycle break thing by the way. Was that hard to get working?
Swenglish 5 months ago
@Swenglish It was pretty tricky, it keeps breaking down, I think I have to use more wood inside to make it more stable.
tbonepearson 5 months ago
@tbonepearson That happens coincidentally to also be what she said.
Swenglish 5 months ago
@Swenglish lol
tbonepearson 5 months ago
@Swenglish Gravity? He's a puppet. Puppets mouths are moved by a performer's HAND. This moron in the video is correct about how the puppet will work, but he has no idea what the hell he's doing.
MrHarrythehipster 4 months ago
@MrHarrythehipster There's more than one way to move a jaw. It's fully possible to have it suspended by elastic bands (or metal springs) and moving via bobbing of the head. Not the traditional way of doing it, but with a large puppet head to be worn as part of a costume it makes sense, as it leaves the hands free to do other stuff. It's also possible to have it on a string controlled by a foot or by a second performer. Yet another way is animatronics, but that's a lot more complicated.
Swenglish 4 months ago
@Swenglish Yes, you're correct. Sorry, I should have been more specific in my last comment. What I was getting at was: Sweetums IS manipulated using the performer's hand. Watch some clips from The Muppet Show and the Muppet movies, you'll see that when his mouth is moving, his right arm is either pinned to his waste, or just hanging freely at his side. Watch Muppet Voice Comparisons: Sweetums. It will give you a wide range of examples.
MrHarrythehipster 4 months ago
@MarchHareGuy88 lol
tbonepearson 10 months ago
@MarchHareGuy88 lol, I actually didn't like TDK either :)
tbonepearson 10 months ago
Overall, it's totally awesome! But, after watching all the puppet videos, I can't help but worry about the actor inside. Safety first. Great job! Love seeing all the making of, videos you are putting out. And, it does get people, more excited to see season 2!
wolfbracker 11 months ago
@wolfbracker Thanks man, lol, I should put a notice before the show saying " No puppeteer was hurt during filming of this production", joking aside the puppets are quite safe to operate the only thing that gets me is my forearm and wrist but that's just because I don't practice enough.
tbonepearson 10 months ago
@tbonepearson With all the shoutouts you've given me and my channel. I'm not gonna touch that one. Especially the last part of the paragraph. LOL. But, if that statement don't get people talking, I don't know what will.
wolfbracker 10 months ago
@wolfbracker lol, I know where you wanted to go with that, nice restraint!
tbonepearson 10 months ago
@tbonepearson LOL. Yeah. Thanks.
wolfbracker 10 months ago
@wolfbracker But, all in fun, T-bone. LOL.
wolfbracker 10 months ago
You might need a counter balance weight because, he's heavier in the front than in the back. I think the actor would have to hold the head up with the hand that goes in the mouth. Again, if he's a bad guy, then not seeing much of his eyes is a good thing. But, if he's a good guy, then his eyebrows need to be smaller, so more of his eyes can be seen. In anime, they make the villian's eyes really small. And, the hero's eyes big. Cause, the eyes are the window into the soul.
wolfbracker 11 months ago
@wolfbracker Great points, thanks!
tbonepearson 10 months ago
I'm still trying to figure out, if Wooty is a good guy or a bad guy. I know, I'll find out in season two. LOL. The color of the ears and nose is just right. I think the bottom lip should be brighter color. So as to draw attention to his mouth when he talks. Thank goodness, you changed the color of the red horns! Much needed improvement! The red horns did make him look evil or like a devil. It's kinda of hard to give feedback, cause, I don't know, it he's a friend or a bad guy.
wolfbracker 11 months ago
@wolfbracker lol,spoiler, he's a good guy, thanks for all the feedback I love it, it's really helpful!
tbonepearson 10 months ago
@tbonepearson I'm glad, because sometimes I do feel bad leaving feedback. Because, I know everyone is trying their best and I'm sure a lot of hard work goes into not only making the puppets but also making the spellfury series. See, I was thinking that it was your intentions to make Wooty look evil, but be a really sweet and friendly monster. So, as to subvert or take the audience by surprise. So, in a way, this really adds more to the story already. And, part 1 of season 2, isn't out yet.
wolfbracker 10 months ago
@wolfbracker I love honest opinions and constructive criticism, I like your idea but Wooty has to be good coming out of the gates for the story, I'm pretty happy with him as is though, I might do a few more changes :)
tbonepearson 10 months ago
@tbonepearson He's awesome! Keep up the great work!
wolfbracker 10 months ago
OMG is that Sweetums???
WatchVenusSpa 11 months ago
@WatchVenusSpa He's definitely Sweetums inspired, I've ALWAYS wanted to build a puppet that big since I was a kid, I've had a blast building him :)
tbonepearson 11 months ago