Hey Spine, all i can say is that you got taken. Im not saying that replacing a 440 foot pump couldnt cost upwards of a couple grand, but $6000 is pretty high. IM also willing to bet that the first pump motor wasnt defective as much as it was probably improperly installed.
Haters gonna hate! I'll tell you all what, you go pay a well drilling company $6000 to pull YOUR pump and motor! As for me, I built nearly an exact replica of this scaffold and pulled my own pump using my winch on my truck instead of an SUV. My well is 440' deep and I had to do it TWICE, because the first pump motor that we installed was defective and only worked for three days. Thank you, LoginsSuck123! You saved me THOUSANDS of dollars! I'll post the video of ours when I get a chance.
Its amazing more people dont get killed doing crazy shit like this, Pullies screwed to wood, steel cable attached to Tahoe, kid standing next to loaded steel cable. Holy Shit.
@EJW1 What do you think goes on with a drill rig?? I stand next to a heavily loaded 5/8 steel cable every day that gets stretched with every stroke of the rig running at 50-60 strokes per minute.....
I have to agree with you Login, ther a lot of people out there who just like to see someone fail and who also do not have the enginuity to do it themself. I have found many ideas on here through people and how to do it. As for professionals how did you get to be a professional. Good job done. I have just moved into a property with a well, but the main pump, filters etc are above ground in the basement, looks abit old and will probally look at getting a new one, but will do it myself.
Well olddog, in my area it actually is cheaper wo have a well then to have central water. If you consider that the average life of a well pump is about 10 to 12 years. As for criticizing the man who wants to do it himself, be my guest. Just dont go around saying that repair guys are crooks. I laugh at you weekend warriors who take of 2 or 3 days from work to fix a problem that a pro could fix in a few hours.
I gotta agree with TRD here. Pulling a pump is not a DIY job. I dont know what kind of pump the previous company isntalled for you but the pumps I install come with a 5yr warranty. Even my second line pump does. And for the record, you can pull a 300 to 400 in a hour if its been intalled properly. And the one piece poly pipe is not an easier job for a professional nor is it a better job. Bottom line, getting a job done right may not be cheaper then doing it urself but at least its one right
This is a very dangerous job if you are not careful . In my 20 years of pump repair and drilling I saw a homeowner attempt a 400" sub pull he was half way out when his clamp let go. The wire wrapped around a rhododendron and ripped it out of the ground roots and all and it all went shooting down the well the entire bush, they couldn't get the pump out after that it was jammed . That pipe you saw with all the iron Bacteria is your static level in other words how much your water level fluctuates
The well pumps I've changed on my homes in Pennsylvania have all used black plastic flexible PVC - IMO way easier to work with than the rigid pipes that have to be taken apart and put back together. I've never had to use an elaborate pull system, just a couple guys to pull it up.
I don't know why people are jumping on this guy's DIY project. If anything it's a little over engineered but so what? The pumps aren't really that heavy, they wouldn't snap a cable.
I try not to get into too many squabbles, but I have to back up my fellow well men. Two men and a pump hoist can pull a 400 footer in a half hour on SCH 80, galvanized, or whatever else you want to hang it on. Most pump replacements take less than 2 hours (If installed properly). The guys that take all day bring out a chain hoist and a tripod (1940's technology). I wish I had a dollar for every one of these DIY projects I've had to fish out of the bottom of the well...Oh, wait, I DO!
The reason why people are starting to do DIY projects is because people are getting tired of being ripped off. We had a professional tell us we had to redrill our well because the water table had shifted without even ever coming out to see the well. Guess what Ive got water fm the same well he wanted to replace. HMMMMM
haha thank you very much for the support.. i really didnt want to start a huge argument over this but i got me a bit heated when he said "dont make claims you cant back up".. im sorry im too busy WORKING to video tape every pump i pull :).. anyways hope buisness is good at your company and thanks for the support
I would say to those of you that just want to criticize this project, to just 'chill out'. This happens in lot in today's society where the critiquers just love to come out of the woodwork to downgrade others creative DIY spirit. Is ther possible safety factors? Perhaps some. This is the nature of DIY, and can also be said of 'so-called' non-DIY professional services in this world. Bottom line, you guys just love to make others feel like crap so to make yourselves feel better. So get over it.
@LoginsSuck123 No way Mr. Logins. The project is great and we're thankful you set this video up for us. It's just that everything needs improving upon and I think the others are just giving constructive criticism. To be honest, before doing a project like this everyone should read the comments section just so they know how others are thinking about the project and what they're really getting into. But this is great work, and we really do appreciate it!
This is scary! a young kid there, no visible means of support for his tower.....The time it took to do this, what if he dropped the pump, what if his kid got hurt.....This guy is lucky, very lucky
A+ for ingenuity . No Hard hats safety glasses steel toed boots safety hook on cable child in work area etc etc. I hope your insurance is paid and conscience clear putting a child in danger to save the almighty buck. Hope and pray that no one watches this and then gets injured or worse.
im from new jersey... we use 19lb 6'' pipe with steel threaded couplings.. tighten the down with chain wrenches and weld them if necessary. as far as the pump goes.. depending on the wells yield typically you would set the pump 20ft off the bottom of the well
The owner and designer previously had a well company replace the pump, but the cheap pump they put in only lasted about 2-years. This DIY project cost him a lot less than the $2K those jokers charged him.
yea theres no doubt he got screwed.. but on the same not the the company i work for, me and one other guy can pull a 500ft deep pump and have it back in in just over an hour. (we've timed our selves for shits and giggles just to see).. and our pumps come with warrantys. no BS
Im sorry but I dont believe you. We had the original pump pulled and replaced (with a shitty pump from the well company) and it took them all day. My well is only 450 ft deep so really dont make claims you cant back up!!!
look.. thats fine if you dont believe me.. but dont come on here callin me a liar either.. 80% of our competition make a project out of pullin a pump and then ass rape you w/ a bill on the labor and everything else.. i dont come on here runnin my mouth about things i dont know or cant do.. its just called bein really good at what we do. your sayin a company did it. ok. how many years of personal expierience do u have?
Yes we have a "professional" company come out and replace the well. It took them all day and gave us a crappy pump. I am the home owner of this DIY. and I stand behind the person that did this! The pump that the so called "professional" gave us lasted 2 years wasnt even the same brand that was originally put in. Again I rather have the person in this FIY redo my pump anyday!!!
im sorry to hear that.. but once again, just because the "professionals" you had come do it weren't so professional doesn't make me a liar. no matter what you do you are at the mercy of them and it sucks sometimes when you know youre getting screwed but cant do a damn thing about it.. but once again thats not us, and has nothing to do with the quality or speed of the job that i can do.
@trd1717 obviously this DIY is not at the mercy of the idiot who charged him 2k dollars. This is easy to do, though like others have said the single piece black flex tubing would make it a bunch easier. instead of a 20 foot tall tower you could easily use a 4 foot sawhorse with a large boat pulley and a pull it up the first 10 foot or so. Then attach the pipe to a vehicle and drive it up while someone guides it up the reason you need the pulley is so that the black flex tube doesnt snap
wow now thats a diys system. i dont know how much u saved doing it your self but i could do that job in an hour with a boom truck and it would only cost around 1200 bucks
I do not feel this is a death trap. I would keep the kid away from it. So long as everything is built well the worst thing I can see going wrong is losing the pipe and pump down the hole.
As a machinist this make sense to me. It looks to be done in the same fasion as an oil rig.
Hey Spine, all i can say is that you got taken. Im not saying that replacing a 440 foot pump couldnt cost upwards of a couple grand, but $6000 is pretty high. IM also willing to bet that the first pump motor wasnt defective as much as it was probably improperly installed.
griffman08 4 months ago
Its amazing and I will do the same next time I need to change a pump or replace a filter. What type of pump you are using for 450 ft. Like it.
sharafooni 5 months ago
Haters gonna hate! I'll tell you all what, you go pay a well drilling company $6000 to pull YOUR pump and motor! As for me, I built nearly an exact replica of this scaffold and pulled my own pump using my winch on my truck instead of an SUV. My well is 440' deep and I had to do it TWICE, because the first pump motor that we installed was defective and only worked for three days. Thank you, LoginsSuck123! You saved me THOUSANDS of dollars! I'll post the video of ours when I get a chance.
spineofgod99 9 months ago
Its amazing more people dont get killed doing crazy shit like this, Pullies screwed to wood, steel cable attached to Tahoe, kid standing next to loaded steel cable. Holy Shit.
EJW1 9 months ago
@EJW1 What do you think goes on with a drill rig?? I stand next to a heavily loaded 5/8 steel cable every day that gets stretched with every stroke of the rig running at 50-60 strokes per minute.....
andrewsengineering 4 months ago
Thanks for posting the video...Im going to be removing my pump in the next week or so! (fortunately i have the old windmill tower still over mine!)
aircooledflat4 10 months ago
I have to agree with you Login, ther a lot of people out there who just like to see someone fail and who also do not have the enginuity to do it themself. I have found many ideas on here through people and how to do it. As for professionals how did you get to be a professional. Good job done. I have just moved into a property with a well, but the main pump, filters etc are above ground in the basement, looks abit old and will probally look at getting a new one, but will do it myself.
eagle55566 1 year ago
Well olddog, in my area it actually is cheaper wo have a well then to have central water. If you consider that the average life of a well pump is about 10 to 12 years. As for criticizing the man who wants to do it himself, be my guest. Just dont go around saying that repair guys are crooks. I laugh at you weekend warriors who take of 2 or 3 days from work to fix a problem that a pro could fix in a few hours.
griffman08 1 year ago
dont crticise the man that does it himself. to save money from an overinflated repair service. Glad Im on city water
Olddog231 1 year ago
Hey, thats a great project! I could use you helping me in Mexico. Keep up the great work.
Ryan Maness
downinmexico. org
mexicodiesel 1 year ago
I gotta agree with TRD here. Pulling a pump is not a DIY job. I dont know what kind of pump the previous company isntalled for you but the pumps I install come with a 5yr warranty. Even my second line pump does. And for the record, you can pull a 300 to 400 in a hour if its been intalled properly. And the one piece poly pipe is not an easier job for a professional nor is it a better job. Bottom line, getting a job done right may not be cheaper then doing it urself but at least its one right
griffman08 1 year ago
Lol
Bucyruserie28W 1 year ago
Well thanks jpc002. It is a good project, and admittedly has some flaws. But your perspective is appreciated. Learn from others and do it better.
LoginsSuck123 1 year ago
Great Job
jumpa01 1 year ago
This is a very dangerous job if you are not careful . In my 20 years of pump repair and drilling I saw a homeowner attempt a 400" sub pull he was half way out when his clamp let go. The wire wrapped around a rhododendron and ripped it out of the ground roots and all and it all went shooting down the well the entire bush, they couldn't get the pump out after that it was jammed . That pipe you saw with all the iron Bacteria is your static level in other words how much your water level fluctuates
jumpa01 1 year ago
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klk1900 1 year ago
The well pumps I've changed on my homes in Pennsylvania have all used black plastic flexible PVC - IMO way easier to work with than the rigid pipes that have to be taken apart and put back together. I've never had to use an elaborate pull system, just a couple guys to pull it up.
I don't know why people are jumping on this guy's DIY project. If anything it's a little over engineered but so what? The pumps aren't really that heavy, they wouldn't snap a cable.
gfish66 1 year ago
When mine decides to take a crap, I hope my pipe is a single flexible piece!
tuck1963 1 year ago
I try not to get into too many squabbles, but I have to back up my fellow well men. Two men and a pump hoist can pull a 400 footer in a half hour on SCH 80, galvanized, or whatever else you want to hang it on. Most pump replacements take less than 2 hours (If installed properly). The guys that take all day bring out a chain hoist and a tripod (1940's technology). I wish I had a dollar for every one of these DIY projects I've had to fish out of the bottom of the well...Oh, wait, I DO!
ropespear66 2 years ago
Sorry not here. Not had a single problem with this pump that the DIY put in!!
roseb1224 2 years ago
The reason why people are starting to do DIY projects is because people are getting tired of being ripped off. We had a professional tell us we had to redrill our well because the water table had shifted without even ever coming out to see the well. Guess what Ive got water fm the same well he wanted to replace. HMMMMM
roseb1224 2 years ago
haha thank you very much for the support.. i really didnt want to start a huge argument over this but i got me a bit heated when he said "dont make claims you cant back up".. im sorry im too busy WORKING to video tape every pump i pull :).. anyways hope buisness is good at your company and thanks for the support
trd1717 2 years ago
For the well guys who state they can have the well pump in and out without and hour or two I said BULLSHIT
roseb1224 2 years ago
I would say to those of you that just want to criticize this project, to just 'chill out'. This happens in lot in today's society where the critiquers just love to come out of the woodwork to downgrade others creative DIY spirit. Is ther possible safety factors? Perhaps some. This is the nature of DIY, and can also be said of 'so-called' non-DIY professional services in this world. Bottom line, you guys just love to make others feel like crap so to make yourselves feel better. So get over it.
LoginsSuck123 2 years ago 2
@LoginsSuck123 No way Mr. Logins. The project is great and we're thankful you set this video up for us. It's just that everything needs improving upon and I think the others are just giving constructive criticism. To be honest, before doing a project like this everyone should read the comments section just so they know how others are thinking about the project and what they're really getting into. But this is great work, and we really do appreciate it!
jpc002 1 year ago
This is scary! a young kid there, no visible means of support for his tower.....The time it took to do this, what if he dropped the pump, what if his kid got hurt.....This guy is lucky, very lucky
craigpumpco 2 years ago
A+ for ingenuity . No Hard hats safety glasses steel toed boots safety hook on cable child in work area etc etc. I hope your insurance is paid and conscience clear putting a child in danger to save the almighty buck. Hope and pray that no one watches this and then gets injured or worse.
happywelldriller 2 years ago
you are damn lucky that cable didnt snap and hurt someone
JOHNPHUFNAGEL 2 years ago
good looking rig, only thing I would have done differient is pull the same side as the brace poles
boulevardtalonman 2 years ago
I am a journeyman pipefitter, but never worked on a well.
Use rope or cable?
Pipes joined with regular couplings?
Galvanized?
What do they use now days for the pipe?
Are the pumps typically lowered to the bottom of the wells?
Seems like a pretty good method to me, unless your cable/rope broke
Oh, and where did you get the connector you attached to the top of each pipe? It looked heavy duty.
I like the idea of the SUV doing all the lifting.
paulcalif 2 years ago
im from new jersey... we use 19lb 6'' pipe with steel threaded couplings.. tighten the down with chain wrenches and weld them if necessary. as far as the pump goes.. depending on the wells yield typically you would set the pump 20ft off the bottom of the well
trd1717 2 years ago
The owner and designer previously had a well company replace the pump, but the cheap pump they put in only lasted about 2-years. This DIY project cost him a lot less than the $2K those jokers charged him.
LoginsSuck123 2 years ago
yea theres no doubt he got screwed.. but on the same not the the company i work for, me and one other guy can pull a 500ft deep pump and have it back in in just over an hour. (we've timed our selves for shits and giggles just to see).. and our pumps come with warrantys. no BS
trd1717 2 years ago
Im sorry but I dont believe you. We had the original pump pulled and replaced (with a shitty pump from the well company) and it took them all day. My well is only 450 ft deep so really dont make claims you cant back up!!!
roseb1224 2 years ago
look.. thats fine if you dont believe me.. but dont come on here callin me a liar either.. 80% of our competition make a project out of pullin a pump and then ass rape you w/ a bill on the labor and everything else.. i dont come on here runnin my mouth about things i dont know or cant do.. its just called bein really good at what we do. your sayin a company did it. ok. how many years of personal expierience do u have?
trd1717 2 years ago
Yes we have a "professional" company come out and replace the well. It took them all day and gave us a crappy pump. I am the home owner of this DIY. and I stand behind the person that did this! The pump that the so called "professional" gave us lasted 2 years wasnt even the same brand that was originally put in. Again I rather have the person in this FIY redo my pump anyday!!!
roseb1224 2 years ago
im sorry to hear that.. but once again, just because the "professionals" you had come do it weren't so professional doesn't make me a liar. no matter what you do you are at the mercy of them and it sucks sometimes when you know youre getting screwed but cant do a damn thing about it.. but once again thats not us, and has nothing to do with the quality or speed of the job that i can do.
trd1717 2 years ago
@trd1717 obviously this DIY is not at the mercy of the idiot who charged him 2k dollars. This is easy to do, though like others have said the single piece black flex tubing would make it a bunch easier. instead of a 20 foot tall tower you could easily use a 4 foot sawhorse with a large boat pulley and a pull it up the first 10 foot or so. Then attach the pipe to a vehicle and drive it up while someone guides it up the reason you need the pulley is so that the black flex tube doesnt snap
stormpoet76 1 year ago
You guys are just jealous that you don't have the ingenuity and engineering to do it yourself.
suprafreak1901 2 years ago
wow now thats a diys system. i dont know how much u saved doing it your self but i could do that job in an hour with a boom truck and it would only cost around 1200 bucks
trd1717 2 years ago
1200$ an hour for a 160$ truck . eh are you in the market for a swamper
kissmyass1980 2 years ago
no its $1200 for the whole job regardless of time.. thats $1200 for pump and labor, pulled replaced and u back to showering
trd1717 2 years ago
@trd1717 What kind of pump a really crappy one!
roseb1224 2 years ago
goulds. we make a profit but dont kill our customers.. its called good buisness
trd1717 2 years ago
I do not feel this is a death trap. I would keep the kid away from it. So long as everything is built well the worst thing I can see going wrong is losing the pipe and pump down the hole.
As a machinist this make sense to me. It looks to be done in the same fasion as an oil rig.
rlthestig 2 years ago
you are lucky this invention of yours didnt kill someone!!! a well service company could have replaced your pump in less than 3 hours.
yayyyybaby87 3 years ago
how long did it take you to build that death trap? a well service company could have pulled out and in stalled the new pump in less than 3 hours.
yayyyybaby87 3 years ago