@Arjuna1901 Someone's been reading Allison Benedikt (linked from Mondoweiss perhaps?) Its nice to be able to spot the source of bad ideas repeated by people unable or unwilling to form their own.
does no one else see the irony in all these american kids berating someone for attempting to brush over the history of a native people who were invaded and their land stolen?
One last thing (500 char is too few): saying that the Arab world, with its gender inequality, religious fundamentalism and intolerance of other religions, low literacy rates, and high consanguinity rates is backwards is as racist as saying poor white Americans vote against their interests because they "cling to guns and religion." I'm sure these kids have at one point in time thought people in the Southeastern states are "backwards" for these exact same attributes
Ironically all those kids saying "we're all Palestinian" kind of prove the point... if Yassir Arafat who was born and raised in Egypt is "Palestinian" then I guess we're all Palestinian. :) Indeed the two Jewish girls are probably the most "Palestinian" of all these kids
Oh how sad is the state of our country's universities when kids are so woefully misinformed and unable to think critically. No one is saying that "Palestinians don't exist." The obfuscating argument is that Palestinian national identity as distinct from a greater Arab identity is a 20th century invention. This shouldn't diminish their rights or their struggle, but is important for understanding the conflict: for Arabs its not about creating Palestine, rather destroying the dream of Israel
LOL! When do you think the "Jewish" people were invented? How about 1948! Apart from sharing the same religious practice the "Jewish" people had next to nothing in common:- they didn't speak the same language(unlike Palestinians) didn't live in the same area(unlike Palestinians or share the same culture(also unlike Palestinians)!
@petersz98 How sad you don't even know your own anti-Zionist propaganda. Zionism in Europe began in earnest in the late 19th century, so if at any time the Jewish people were "invented" it would have been the late 1800s, not 1948. What distinct language do Palis speak? Arabic, just like all other Arabs.
So the "Jewish" people were invented out of thin air in the 19th century by the Zionists who by the way were atheists(so not really Jews!) and who considered themselves white and European. One of these Zionists Arthur Ruppin was obsessed with the Aryan myth of the origin of white people and spent his life apart from starting the kibbutz movement measuring skulls and human faces.
@petersz98 Again a failure to detect nuance. I was mocking your propaganda negating the national identity of the Jewish people. Indeed Jewish identity is over 3,000 years old and dates back to the time when the 12 tribes consolidated into a single Kingdom. The nation of Israel was then conquered by Western (Roman) Imperialist who tried to obliterate Jewish history by naming the conquered area "Palestine." This is all supported by archeological evidence. Looks like their efforts paid off...
The first mention of a "Jewish" people in the Bible is in the Book of Esther in the 3rd century BC and even that is located in Persia! It was Zoroastrians(a monotheistic people) who invented Judaism at the Babylonian exile period before that the Hebrew people were pagans. The word "Israel" by the way is named after the pagan Canaanite god called El(it literally means fighter for El).
The Zionists used the Bible(mostly a work of fiction) to invent a people retrospectively. Most Jewish people aren't even semitic so how can they be descendants of the ancient Hebrews? For 1000 years from when the Bible was translated to Greek in the 3rd century to the 7th when the Khazarian Empire converted to Judaism people converted to Judaism such as Greeks, Romans, Celts, Ethiopians, Khazars, Berbers and Slavs in the same way people converted to Buddhism or any other religion.
@petersz98 You're completely wrong. Advances in the field of genetics means that scientists can compare diff SNPs across peoples and trace human migration over history. They're surprisingly accurate in European pops.Turns out almost all Jewish communities (except Ethiopean and Indian) share SNPs w/ ea other AND w/ people living in the Levant today. Results also support idea of small original pops contributing to a sig part of diaspora pops. Not dismissing Pal claim, but Jews have one too.
@raultalbot7: care to elaborate? Just to be clear, speaking out against Israel's policies or its existence as a state is not hate speech. (Israel ≠ all Jewish people/Judaism)
Feeling the Stupidity at UCSC...its lack of knowledge..not anti watever...
imar3l 8 months ago
Lovely!!!!WE ARE ALL PALESTINIAN!!!
iilish 8 months ago
The Zionist chick who wrote that racist nonsense obviously doesn't know anything about the conflict other than what she was taught at summer camp.
Arjuna1901 8 months ago
@Arjuna1901 Someone's been reading Allison Benedikt (linked from Mondoweiss perhaps?) Its nice to be able to spot the source of bad ideas repeated by people unable or unwilling to form their own.
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
does no one else see the irony in all these american kids berating someone for attempting to brush over the history of a native people who were invaded and their land stolen?
brinstar 8 months ago
One last thing (500 char is too few): saying that the Arab world, with its gender inequality, religious fundamentalism and intolerance of other religions, low literacy rates, and high consanguinity rates is backwards is as racist as saying poor white Americans vote against their interests because they "cling to guns and religion." I'm sure these kids have at one point in time thought people in the Southeastern states are "backwards" for these exact same attributes
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
Ironically all those kids saying "we're all Palestinian" kind of prove the point... if Yassir Arafat who was born and raised in Egypt is "Palestinian" then I guess we're all Palestinian. :) Indeed the two Jewish girls are probably the most "Palestinian" of all these kids
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
Oh how sad is the state of our country's universities when kids are so woefully misinformed and unable to think critically. No one is saying that "Palestinians don't exist." The obfuscating argument is that Palestinian national identity as distinct from a greater Arab identity is a 20th century invention. This shouldn't diminish their rights or their struggle, but is important for understanding the conflict: for Arabs its not about creating Palestine, rather destroying the dream of Israel
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
@funkyfreshf
LOL! When do you think the "Jewish" people were invented? How about 1948! Apart from sharing the same religious practice the "Jewish" people had next to nothing in common:- they didn't speak the same language(unlike Palestinians) didn't live in the same area(unlike Palestinians or share the same culture(also unlike Palestinians)!
petersz98 8 months ago
@petersz98 How sad you don't even know your own anti-Zionist propaganda. Zionism in Europe began in earnest in the late 19th century, so if at any time the Jewish people were "invented" it would have been the late 1800s, not 1948. What distinct language do Palis speak? Arabic, just like all other Arabs.
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
@funkyfreshf
So the "Jewish" people were invented out of thin air in the 19th century by the Zionists who by the way were atheists(so not really Jews!) and who considered themselves white and European. One of these Zionists Arthur Ruppin was obsessed with the Aryan myth of the origin of white people and spent his life apart from starting the kibbutz movement measuring skulls and human faces.
petersz98 8 months ago
@petersz98 Again a failure to detect nuance. I was mocking your propaganda negating the national identity of the Jewish people. Indeed Jewish identity is over 3,000 years old and dates back to the time when the 12 tribes consolidated into a single Kingdom. The nation of Israel was then conquered by Western (Roman) Imperialist who tried to obliterate Jewish history by naming the conquered area "Palestine." This is all supported by archeological evidence. Looks like their efforts paid off...
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
@funkyfreshf
The first mention of a "Jewish" people in the Bible is in the Book of Esther in the 3rd century BC and even that is located in Persia! It was Zoroastrians(a monotheistic people) who invented Judaism at the Babylonian exile period before that the Hebrew people were pagans. The word "Israel" by the way is named after the pagan Canaanite god called El(it literally means fighter for El).
petersz98 8 months ago
@funkyfreshf
The Zionists used the Bible(mostly a work of fiction) to invent a people retrospectively. Most Jewish people aren't even semitic so how can they be descendants of the ancient Hebrews? For 1000 years from when the Bible was translated to Greek in the 3rd century to the 7th when the Khazarian Empire converted to Judaism people converted to Judaism such as Greeks, Romans, Celts, Ethiopians, Khazars, Berbers and Slavs in the same way people converted to Buddhism or any other religion.
petersz98 8 months ago
@petersz98 You're completely wrong. Advances in the field of genetics means that scientists can compare diff SNPs across peoples and trace human migration over history. They're surprisingly accurate in European pops.Turns out almost all Jewish communities (except Ethiopean and Indian) share SNPs w/ ea other AND w/ people living in the Levant today. Results also support idea of small original pops contributing to a sig part of diaspora pops. Not dismissing Pal claim, but Jews have one too.
funkyfreshf 8 months ago
Pali's a language.
Yamamanama 8 months ago
nice message to the video.
dragade101 8 months ago
thank you, very intriguing. much love and solidarity.
we're all Palestinian.
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@raultalbot7: care to elaborate? Just to be clear, speaking out against Israel's policies or its existence as a state is not hate speech. (Israel ≠ all Jewish people/Judaism)
probejoe 8 months ago 4
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probejoe 8 months ago
Those same pro-palestinians who objest to hate speech turn around and spew hate speech about Israel...they're all just a bunch of hipocrites.
raultalbot7 8 months ago